Playstation starting to take the lead as Xbox fails to keep up!?!

Its all a bit old now Ps3 or Xbox this battle has gone on for years now!?!

Xbox is a good machine but is not future proof, Ps3 is. Microsoft is hoping that by securing all the exclusive downloadable content will keep them in the market!

At the minute ps3 is the better machine and Xbox need to move towards new tech to keep up. Blu ray, Bluetooth, new motion sensor controllers need I say more. IGN has done a comparison on 3 machines and ps3 is the clear winner. Wii is close to the Xbox these days and that for your Nan and children to play.

I am not a fan boy just a realist. PS3 on spec is a better machine! That can not be disputed!! What's a real shame is that ps3 has all the extra power and disc space but when games are realised cross platform ps3 gets a dumb down version due to the above points. Developers are starting to see the real potential of the machine and more are moving towards ps3.

You should check out Heavy Rain, GT5previews i just don't see Xbox keeping up.

As i said Xbox is a good machine but its slipping in the market as a result of its failure to stay tech safe for the future. What are your views?

Its all a bit old now Ps3 or Xbox this battle has gone on for years now!?!

Xbox is a good machine but is not future proof, Ps3 is. Microsoft is hoping that by securing all the exclusive downloadable content will keep them in the market!

At the minute ps3 is the better machine and Xbox need to move towards new tech to keep up. Blu ray, Bluetooth, new motion sensor controllers need I say more. IGN has done a comparison on 3 machines and ps3 is the clear winner. Wii is close to the Xbox these days and that for your Nan and children to play.

I am not a fan boy just a realist. PS3 on spec is a better machine! That can not be disputed!! What's a real shame is that ps3 has all the extra power and disc space but when games are realised cross platform ps3 gets a dumb down version due to the above points. Developers are starting to see the real potential of the machine and more are moving towards ps3.

You should check out Heavy Rain, GT5previews i just don't see Xbox keeping up.

As i said Xbox is a good machine but its slipping in the market as a result of its failure to stay tech safe for the future. What are your views?

Nimmo___007

Isn't the 360 still beating the PS3 in sales, and overall game library???

Dont get what you mean. Tecnically both are similar and i see lots of games coming for both consoles.

Dont get what you mean. Tecnically both are similar and i see lots of games coming for both consoles.

PAL360

I think you need to read the thread again. Xbox is slipping as its only got HD-DVD (now being fazed out) no bluetooth with is common in car stereos these days but not on xbox! Motion controls are only just coming announced after sonys new motion controls. Still need to use batteries in the remote controls!?! WTF. Recharging batteries and having to swop them?

No inbuilt HDD on the xbox external only. I have had both and and more inpressed with what the Ps3 has to offer. I am not here to slag of the xbox just making a point that Microsoft need to think about either a new machine or to update its current one.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Dont get what you mean. Tecnically both are similar and i see lots of games coming for both consoles.

I think you need to read the thread again. Xbox is slipping as its only got HD-DVD (now being fazed out) no bluetooth with is common in car stereos these days but not on xbox! Motion controls are only just coming announced after sonys new motion controls. Still need to use batteries in the remote controls!?! WTF. Recharging batteries and having to swop them?

No inbuilt HDD on the xbox external only. I have had both and and more inpressed with what the Ps3 has to offer. I am not here to slag of the xbox just making a point that Microsoft need to think about either a new machine or to update its current one.

If I said it once, I've said it a dozen times: this gen. - third place is the new first place. :P

Its all a bit old now Ps3 or Xbox this battle has gone on for years now!?!

Xbox is a good machine but is not future proof, Ps3 is

Nimmo___007

If they're leading in sales, why would they need to change anything? Obviously whatever they're doing, it works.Skittles_McGee

This is a fair point i am not even going there with the last childish effort.

I consider this year (2009)to be the year that Ps3 started to or make the biggest change in the gape on the market. Who knows what 2010 has to offer. As mentioned earlier Heavy Rain & GT5 look very impressive and i don't see Xbox making games of that standard with the lack of disc space etc. Also even in the review on Gamespot Uncharted 2 was one of the first games they played were they thought "i can not see xobx doing that".

As mentioned in a earlier thread Ps3 does have 5 times the disk space but when games come out cross platform Plastation owners get a raw deal so developers can fit games to xbox 9GB disks. I have read on here that some new games coming out for Xbox will need to be on additional disks? Sounds like the old Atari, commadore days to me.

I am not here to have a childish fight over the machines just want to here people ideas and view for the future.

[QUOTE="Nimmo___007"]

Its all a bit old now Ps3 or Xbox this battle has gone on for years now!?!

Xbox is a good machine but is not future proof, Ps3 is

wayne_kar

But oranges can go off, so it would appear only socks are future proof :P.

No inbuilt HDD on the xbox external only.Nimmo___007

Still need to use batteries in the remote controls!?! WTF. Recharging batteries and having to swop them?Nimmo___007

As mentioned earlier Heavy Rain & GT5 look very impressive and i don't see Xbox making games of that standard with the lack of disc space etc. Nimmo___007

Wii doesn't even use DVD9 and is kicking booty! Obviously Blu-ray isn't as all important as cows want to believe.thecreechxxx

Wii is the must have Toy for all children and the family, it will and alomost anything that come out in the future like it will beat other consoles and PC's!?! But its not for serious gamers.

Besides not the point i was making but thanks for the input.

[QUOTE="Nimmo___007"]

Its all a bit old now Ps3 or Xbox this battle has gone on for years now!?!

Xbox is a good machine but is not future proof, Ps3 is

wayne_kar

[QUOTE="Nimmo___007"]

Its all a bit old now Ps3 or Xbox this battle has gone on for years now!?!

Xbox is a good machine but is not future proof, Ps3 is. Microsoft is hoping that by securing all the exclusive downloadable content will keep them in the market!

At the minute ps3 is the better machine and Xbox need to move towards new tech to keep up. Blu ray, Bluetooth, new motion sensor controllers need I say more. IGN has done a comparison on 3 machines and ps3 is the clear winner. Wii is close to the Xbox these days and that for your Nan and children to play.

I am not a fan boy just a realist. PS3 on spec is a better machine! That can not be disputed!! What's a real shame is that ps3 has all the extra power and disc space but when games are realised cross platform ps3 gets a dumb down version due to the above points. Developers are starting to see the real potential of the machine and more are moving towards ps3.

You should check out Heavy Rain, GT5previews i just don't see Xbox keeping up.

As i said Xbox is a good machine but its slipping in the market as a result of its failure to stay tech safe for the future. What are your views?

siddhu33

Isn't the 360 still beating the PS3 in sales, and overall game library???

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]If they're leading in sales, why would they need to change anything? Obviously whatever they're doing, it works.Nimmo___007

This is a fair point i am not even going there with the last childish effort.

I consider this year (2009)to be the year that Ps3 started to or make the biggest change in the gape on the market. Who knows what 2010 has to offer. As mentioned earlier Heavy Rain & GT5 look very impressive and i don't see Xbox making games of that standard with the lack of disc space etc. Also even in the review on Gamespot Uncharted 2 was one of the first games they played were they thought "i can not see xobx doing that".

As mentioned in a earlier thread Ps3 does have 5 times the disk space but when games come out cross platform Plastation owners get a raw deal so developers can fit games to xbox 9GB disks. I have read on here that some new games coming out for Xbox will need to be on additional disks? Sounds like the old Atari, commadore days to me.

I am not here to have a childish fight over the machines just want to here people ideas and view for the future.

PS3 started to close the sales gap this year especially with their latest price drop. However, it was shocking to them fall behind the 360 in the NPDs so quickly. What does that say?

The extra disc space seems to be a non-issue as multiplats are nearly indistinguishable nowadays where they were predominantly better on the 360 in the past.

Where the 360 excels and will continue to excel is in its promotion of community. Whether Sivler or Gold, MS has shown that they are clearly in line with online trends. Facebook, Twitter and Last.FM co-branding, the personnel and thought given to their whole online strategy... I believe these are what's driving 360 hardware sales, and retaing its current userbase.

The latest trends being digital distribution. MS starting to make its current gen library available for download. Not only does it have many titles already available and more released every week.....My conspiracy theory here is that this is a test bed for the next MS console. I see it being a major factor next time around.

In the meantime, Sony is stuck in an online mentality from 5 years ago. They take queues from Xbox Live on what features to implement, or are slow to react to what's going on in the online space.

[QUOTE="siddhu33"]

[QUOTE="Nimmo___007"]

Its all a bit old now Ps3 or Xbox this battle has gone on for years now!?!

Xbox is a good machine but is not future proof, Ps3 is. Microsoft is hoping that by securing all the exclusive downloadable content will keep them in the market!

At the minute ps3 is the better machine and Xbox need to move towards new tech to keep up. Blu ray, Bluetooth, new motion sensor controllers need I say more. IGN has done a comparison on 3 machines and ps3 is the clear winner. Wii is close to the Xbox these days and that for your Nan and children to play.

I am not a fan boy just a realist. PS3 on spec is a better machine! That can not be disputed!! What's a real shame is that ps3 has all the extra power and disc space but when games are realised cross platform ps3 gets a dumb down version due to the above points. Developers are starting to see the real potential of the machine and more are moving towards ps3.

You should check out Heavy Rain, GT5previews i just don't see Xbox keeping up.

As i said Xbox is a good machine but its slipping in the market as a result of its failure to stay tech safe for the future. What are your views?

Odrec

Isn't the 360 still beating the PS3 in sales, and overall game library???

Ummm, really? Care to back that statement up because it seems to be common knowledge that the 360 is leading the PS3 in sales and has a larger game library.

[QUOTE="Odrec"][QUOTE="siddhu33"]

Isn't the 360 still beating the PS3 in sales, and overall game library???

rp108

Ummm, really? Care to back that statement up because it seems to be common knowledge that the 360 is leading the PS3 in sales and has a larger game library.

Its all a bit old now Ps3 or Xbox this battle has gone on for years now!?!

Xbox is a good machine but is not future proof, Ps3 is. Microsoft is hoping that by securing all the exclusive downloadable content will keep them in the market!

At the minute ps3 is the better machine and Xbox need to move towards new tech to keep up. Blu ray, Bluetooth, new motion sensor controllers need I say more. IGN has done a comparison on 3 machines and ps3 is the clear winner. Wii is close to the Xbox these days and that for your Nan and children to play.

I am not a fan boy just a realist. PS3 on spec is a better machine! That can not be disputed!! What's a real shame is that ps3 has all the extra power and disc space but when games are realised cross platform ps3 gets a dumb down version due to the above points. Developers are starting to see the real potential of the machine and more are moving towards ps3.

You should check out Heavy Rain, GT5previews i just don't see Xbox keeping up.

As i said Xbox is a good machine but its slipping in the market as a result of its failure to stay tech safe for the future. What are your views?

Nimmo___007

[QUOTE="rp108"]

[QUOTE="Odrec"] NoOdrec

Ummm, really? Care to back that statement up because it seems to be common knowledge that the 360 is leading the PS3 in sales and has a larger game library.

Is it beating the 360 in worldwide sales? Can you provide links? I'd like to see the data from sources like NPD and MediaCreate, not vgchartz and wikipedia.

haha Future PROOF? Thats something that Sony made up in order to sell their console. 360 is as much future proos as ps3. Thats why year from now, 2 years from now, 3 years from now, 360 and ps3 games will all look pretty much the same with maybe TINY difference here and there that average person pays no attention to.

Its all a bit old now Ps3 or Xbox this battle has gone on for years now!?!

Xbox is a good machine but is not future proof, Ps3 is. Microsoft is hoping that by securing all the exclusive downloadable content will keep them in the market!

At the minute ps3 is the better machine and Xbox need to move towards new tech to keep up. Blu ray, Bluetooth, new motion sensor controllers need I say more. IGN has done a comparison on 3 machines and ps3 is the clear winner. Wii is close to the Xbox these days and that for your Nan and children to play.

I am not a fan boy just a realist. PS3 on spec is a better machine! That can not be disputed!! What's a real shame is that ps3 has all the extra power and disc space but when games are realised cross platform ps3 gets a dumb down version due to the above points. Developers are starting to see the real potential of the machine and more are moving towards ps3.

You should check out Heavy Rain, GT5previews i just don't see Xbox keeping up.

As i said Xbox is a good machine but its slipping in the market as a result of its failure to stay tech safe for the future. What are your views?

Nimmo___007

while the PS3 is winning many battles continously since the slim, x360 is winning the war overall, simply due the fact that the x360 major lead which makes all PS3 sales look small, the PS3 needs its big guns rightnow, GT5, GOW3 and FFXIII.

[QUOTE="Odrec"][QUOTE="rp108"]

Ummm, really? Care to back that statement up because it seems to be common knowledge that the 360 is leading the PS3 in sales and has a larger game library.

VoodooHak

Is it beating the 360 in worldwide sales? Can you provide links? I'd like to see the data from sources like NPD and MediaCreate, not vgchartz and wikipedia.

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

[QUOTE="Odrec"] Talking about game library quantity =/= quality and lately Sony has been delivering more quality than MS. The PS3 is practically beating the 360 in worldwide sales. We are talking about how things are changing not how they were in 2007. The 360 has a year head start and that will give them advantages in quantity but the PS3 is starting to slowly catch up and we can expect more of this trend in the near future.Odrec

Is it beating the 360 in worldwide sales? Can you provide links? I'd like to see the data from sources like NPD and MediaCreate, not vgchartz and wikipedia.

No links?

Those were numbers for 1 month, no? We're talking launch to present. I'd like to see those charts for Europe through September.

[QUOTE="Odrec"][QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

Is it beating the 360 in worldwide sales? Can you provide links? I'd like to see the data from sources like NPD and MediaCreate, not vgchartz and wikipedia.

VoodooHak

No links?

Those were numbers for 1 month, no? We're talking launch to present. I'd like to see those charts for Europe through September.

Dont get what you mean. Tecnically both are similar and i see lots of games coming for both consoles.

PAL360

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Dont get what you mean. Tecnically both are similar and i see lots of games coming for both consoles.

Nimmo___007

I think you need to read the thread again. Xbox is slipping as its only got HD-DVD (now being fazed out) no bluetooth with is common in car stereos these days but not on xbox! Motion controls are only just coming announced after sonys new motion controls. Still need to use batteries in the remote controls!?! WTF. Recharging batteries and having to swop them?

No inbuilt HDD on the xbox external only. I have had both and and more inpressed with what the Ps3 has to offer. I am not here to slag of the xbox just making a point that Microsoft need to think about either a new machine or to update its current one.

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

[QUOTE="Odrec"] We already saw the NPD and Media Create data in another thread yesterday. The PS3 beat the 360 in november adding those up. We don't have european numbers but it is probable that the PS3 is the best selling console there for a small margin since we have charts until september and that was the case.Odrec

No links?

Those were numbers for 1 month, no? We're talking launch to present. I'd like to see those charts for Europe through September.

What do you mean "now"? Those charts and numbers covered European hardware sales January-September. No official numbers have been released since then, thus there are no numbers as of yet covering the most important and preponderant sales of the year, that is the holiday sales which begin in November.

[QUOTE="thecreechxxx"]Wii doesn't even use DVD9 and is kicking booty! Obviously Blu-ray isn't as all important as cows want to believe.Nimmo___007

Wii is the must have Toy for all children and the family, it will and alomost anything that come out in the future like it will beat other consoles and PC's!?! But its not for serious gamers.

Besides not the point i was making but thanks for the input.

I realize the TC started this as a PS3 vs 360 thread (and is doing a bad job of it), but the bolded statement above is just wrong. I'm a serious gamer and I love playing on my Wii. Saying otherwise is either elitist opinion or just ignorant.

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

[QUOTE="Odrec"] We already saw the NPD and Media Create data in another thread yesterday. The PS3 beat the 360 in november adding those up. We don't have european numbers but it is probable that the PS3 is the best selling console there for a small margin since we have charts until september and that was the case.Odrec

No links?

Those were numbers for 1 month, no? We're talking launch to present. I'd like to see those charts for Europe through September.

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

[QUOTE="Odrec"] Talking about game library quantity =/= quality and lately Sony has been delivering more quality than MS. The PS3 is practically beating the 360 in worldwide sales. We are talking about how things are changing not how they were in 2007. The 360 has a year head start and that will give them advantages in quantity but the PS3 is starting to slowly catch up and we can expect more of this trend in the near future.Odrec

Is it beating the 360 in worldwide sales? Can you provide links? I'd like to see the data from sources like NPD and MediaCreate, not vgchartz and wikipedia.

1) I am sure it is not beating the Wii, and 2) I remember that it was probable for the PS3 to beat the 360 in Nov. NPD, I remember when IGN prediced that the PS3 would beat out the 360 in Nov's NPD the cows were so happy.

ragging on a 4 year old console? what's the point? it's a four year old console.

even as a huge fan of the 360 this gen i look at it now and go wow that was a great console i can't wait to see what the next one brings.

sure i will continue to buy multiplats and whatever mega hits that it dribbles out over the next year or two but really i'm already gearing up for next gen and am already looking at the 360 as old news

[QUOTE="rp108"]

[QUOTE="Odrec"] NoOdrec

Ummm, really? Care to back that statement up because it seems to be common knowledge that the 360 is leading the PS3 in sales and has a larger game library.

um... yeah, sony has been delivering quality titles LATELY (key word)

but if you want to actually talk about the entire library, then (from MC):

ps3 AAA games: 19

360 AAA games: 25

ps3 AA games: 122

360 AA games: 157

hm.... are you still sure that the ps3 has a better library?

Isn't the 360 still beating the PS3 in sales, and overall game library???

siddhu33

The 360 has the better game library. I don't know where you were going with this but hopefully you're informed now...

The 360 has the better game library. I don't know where you were going with this but hopefully you're informed now...

Silverbond

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

The 360 has the better game library. I don't know where you were going with this but hopefully you're informed now...

2mrw

[QUOTE="2mrw"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

The 360 has the better game library. I don't know where you were going with this but hopefully you're informed now...

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Dont get what you mean. Tecnically both are similar and i see lots of games coming for both consoles.

metalgear-solid

Its funny, my girlfriend works at gamestop and you should see the look on some of the parents that buy the 360. She gives them a run down of what each one has to offer and what they may need outside of just the system. The parents get excited that the PS3 offers so much(blu-ray, free online, loads of beautiful exclusives etc.) for $299, and right of the bat they are willing to grab one just for themselves(forgetting about the kids) but then the kid complains because all of his friends have a 360 so he HAS to have one too. The parents get mad because they have to fork over money for live, a hard drive and a wireless adaptor. I've never seen parents so angry, I think its funny. :lol:

The fact that most of these kids have friends on the 360 is the only helping factor Xbox has up its sleeve. I think it's a silly factor but a stong one non the less.

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]If they're leading in sales, why would they need to change anything? Obviously whatever they're doing, it works.Nimmo___007

This is a fair point i am not even going there with the last childish effort.

I consider this year (2009)to be the year that Ps3 started to or make the biggest change in the gape on the market. Who knows what 2010 has to offer. As mentioned earlier Heavy Rain & GT5 look very impressive and i don't see Xbox making games of that standard with the lack of disc space etc. Also even in the review on Gamespot Uncharted 2 was one of the first games they played were they thought "i can not see xobx doing that".

As mentioned in a earlier thread Ps3 does have 5 times the disk space but when games come out cross platform Plastation owners get a raw deal so developers can fit games to xbox 9GB disks. I have read on here that some new games coming out for Xbox will need to be on additional disks? Sounds like the old Atari, commadore days to me.

I am not here to have a childish fight over the machines just want to here people ideas and view for the future.

Heavy Rain will be awesome. GT5 is awful compared to FM3.

Its all a bit old now Ps3 or Xbox this battle has gone on for years now!?!

Xbox is a good machine but is not future proof, Ps3 is. Microsoft is hoping that by securing all the exclusive downloadable content will keep them in the market!

At the minute ps3 is the better machine and Xbox need to move towards new tech to keep up. Blu ray, Bluetooth, new motion sensor controllers need I say more. IGN has done a comparison on 3 machines and ps3 is the clear winner. Wii is close to the Xbox these days and that for your Nan and children to play.

I am not a fan boy just a realist. PS3 on spec is a better machine! That can not be disputed!! What's a real shame is that ps3 has all the extra power and disc space but when games are realised cross platform ps3 gets a dumb down version due to the above points. Developers are starting to see the real potential of the machine and more are moving towards ps3.

You should check out Heavy Rain, GT5previews i just don't see Xbox keeping up.

As i said Xbox is a good machine but its slipping in the market as a result of its failure to stay tech safe for the future. What are your views?

Nimmo___007