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Poll PlayStation: The Flop of 2016, how did it happen? (33 votes)

Loss of exclusives 24%
PSN+ price hike 15%
Poor scoring games 12%
PS Pro low sales 27%
PS4 Slim lukewarm reception 12%
PSN downtime 9%

Now with 2016 coming to a close, was anyone else as surprised as me to see how poorly PlayStation did for 2016 to give it the worst performance of any console this year? What do you think was the biggest contributing factor?

PlayStation had come off of a great year, 2015...winning every month at NPD, UK and Australia. Come into 2016, PlayStation has now lost the past 4 months in a row at NPD, lost the past 3 months in a row in the UK, and lost the past 2 months in a row in Australia. Last year they had one Black Friday, but his year they lost black Friday. And that is with a new PS Pro console release and a PS4 Slim release.

Maybe it was due to a lack of games for the second half of the year with no good game since Uncharted 4 was released way back in May....only to be followed up by The Last Guardian in December.

Many think it could be related to them going fully multiplatform by releasing the PS Pro as well as putting all their top PS3 games on PC now this year, giving the impression that PS is now no longer unique.

How much impact did the price hike of 20% to PSN+ impact the dismal year for 2016? A jump that large for online that is already free on PC, and the consensus that their free games with PSN+ have been deteriorating in quality compared to the competition's offering?

Or maybe it wasn't just the lack of games, but the poorly scoring games...the ones that flopped outside of Uncharted 4 and the rehash of Ratchet & Clank. When you see games like No Man's Sky that flopped, Street Fighter V that flopped, The Last Guardian that flopped, Call of Duty Infinite Warfare marketing tie in which the game flopped, World of Final Fantasy that flopped, The Tomorrow Children that flopped, not to mention the 28 PSVR titles that all flopped.

Or was it related to the PSVR, which flopped big time by pushing out only 25% of the anticipated sales at this time?

Was it because they released an all new console that still suffers from poor performance that has troubles with native 4K and relies on checkerboarding? Or maybe the lack of a UHD player like the competition has?

Or has the frequency of downtime on PSN been a issue that has plagued enough owners that dampened their viewpoint of 2016?

What say you SW, why do you think 2016 was a flop for PlayStation?

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#51  Edited By Dakur
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I find it curious that both games that are causing gargantuan amounts of butthurt on lems (TLG and TLOU) have acronyms starting with TL. What other acronym starts with TL? That's right: TLHBO. Coincidence? Not a chance. Thank you Sony. TLHBO.

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#52 vvulturas
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The struggle in this post...

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#53 tormentos
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Best selling console world wide.

Console with the highest rated exclusive.

You still trying to hard...

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#54 speedfog
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I wanted to pick every option in the poll :((((

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#55 tormentos
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@kvally said:

They flopped, and you can see the reasons why in the original post. Which reason do you think led them to being the flop of 2016? Are you saying it was just one game alone, the TLG flop? If so, that would hardly be a reason for an entire console to flop.

Meanwhile on xbox land..

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#56 kvally
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@speedfog said:

I wanted to pick every option in the poll :((((

I wish I could edit so that you could. I should have made that an option.

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#57 kvally
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@tormentos said:
@kvally said:

They flopped, and you can see the reasons why in the original post. Which reason do you think led them to being the flop of 2016? Are you saying it was just one game alone, the TLG flop? If so, that would hardly be a reason for an entire console to flop.

Meanwhile on xbox land..

Meanwhile in PS land

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#58 WallofTruth
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@casharmy said:
@flyincloud1116 said:
@Desmonic said:

Man, the tears are real. Dat TLG effect.

Coming to a retailer near you.

Should be going into mass production right about now...

Well there's a never ending supply it seems.

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#59 daredevils2k
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@kvally said:
@daredevils2k said:

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@kvally said:
@daredevils2k said:
@kvally said:

Not sure what that has to do with the topic here. So out of all those reasons above, why do you think the PS is the flop for 2016? You haven't answered my question.

Why would I answer your Poll when you haven't provided any proof that was it a flop.

this must of been you last night after you heard about TLG not flopping here at GS

They flopped, and you can see the reasons why in the original post. Which reason do you think led them to being the flop of 2016? Are you saying it was just one game alone, the TLG flop? If so, that would hardly be a reason for an entire console to flop.

Here is @kvally when he found out that the xbox1 is weaker then the PS4

Here is @kvally when he found out his Area 51 computer with 3 video cards completely blew the PS Pro and Scorpio into oblivion...

Here's @kvally Letting us know that he has 3 whole video cards in his COMPUTER lol

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#60 kvally
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@daredevils2k said:

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@kvally said:
@daredevils2k said:

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@kvally said:
@daredevils2k said:

Why would I answer your Poll when you haven't provided any proof that was it a flop.

this must of been you last night after you heard about TLG not flopping here at GS

They flopped, and you can see the reasons why in the original post. Which reason do you think led them to being the flop of 2016? Are you saying it was just one game alone, the TLG flop? If so, that would hardly be a reason for an entire console to flop.

Here is @kvally when he found out that the xbox1 is weaker then the PS4

Here is @kvally when he found out his Area 51 computer with 3 video cards completely blew the PS Pro and Scorpio into oblivion...

Here's @kvally Letting us know that he has 3 whole video cards in his COMPUTER lol

Here's a picture of @daredevils2k soiled skirt after reading that....

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#61  Edited By daredevils2k
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@kvally said:
@daredevils2k said:

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@kvally said:
@daredevils2k said:

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@kvally said:

They flopped, and you can see the reasons why in the original post. Which reason do you think led them to being the flop of 2016? Are you saying it was just one game alone, the TLG flop? If so, that would hardly be a reason for an entire console to flop.

Here is @kvally when he found out that the xbox1 is weaker then the PS4

Here is @kvally when he found out his Area 51 computer with 3 video cards completely blew the PS Pro and Scorpio into oblivion...

Here's @kvally Letting us know that he has 3 whole video cards in his COMPUTER lol

Here's a picture of @daredevils2k soiled skirt after reading that....

LOL that's pretty funnny lol


here's @kvally after hearing all the good news that Playstation fans have been receiving recently lol

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#62  Edited By casharmy
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@aigis said:

Guys, this is just a bait thread, calm down. PS4 didnt flop

You see all I did was laugh at he reply...everyone should laugh when he posts this stuff.

KVally is providing comic relif for xbox fans, sony fans should see his posts as a comedy parody. Some haven't figured that out yet so I think more posters need to pay more attention to the TC's posting style.

Kvally's posts are a joke, just like the xbone's 2017 lineup. No need to take either seriously.

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#63 kvally
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@casharmy said:
@aigis said:

Guys, this is just a bait thread, calm down. PS4 didnt flop

You see all I did was laugh at he reply...everyone should laugh. KVally is providing comic relif for xbox fans, if you haven't figured that out then some guys here need to pay more attention to the TC's posting style.

What difficulty did you play Gears of War 4 on?

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#64 nepu7supastar7
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How did it lose exclusives? That never happened.

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#65 casharmy
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@dakur said:

I find it curious that both games that are causing gargantuan amounts of butthurt on lems (TLG and TLOU) have acronyms starting with TL. What other acronym starts with TL? That's right: TLHBO. Coincidence? Not a chance. Thank you Sony. TLHBO.

LMFAO....

BRILLIANT, Sony secrelty planning lem destruction

Kaz Hirai is that you?

TLou and TLg....What other acronym starts with TL? That's right: TLHBO. Coincidence? Not a chance. Thank you Sony. TLHBO.

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#66 kvally
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@killered3 said:

How did it lose exclusives? That never happened.

All their games can be played on two different platforms now.

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@daredevils2k said:

lo

@kvally said:
@daredevils2k said:

d

@kvally said:
@daredevils2k said:

d

Here is @kvally when he found out that the xbox1 is weaker then the PS4

Here is @kvally when he found out his Area 51 computer with 3 video cards completely blew the PS Pro and Scorpio into oblivion...

Here's @kvally Letting us know that he has 3 whole video cards in his COMPUTER lol

Here's a picture of @daredevils2k soiled skirt after reading that....

LOL that's pretty funnny lol

here's @kvally after hearing all the good news that Playstation fans have been receiving recently lol

Here's Captain Toad:

Anyway, PS4 hardware has been a bit of a flop this year. The Slim is okay but the Pro is big and not powerful enough to do anything special with most games (and hit even the modest 30 fps target)

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#68 Shewgenja
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@kvally said:
@killered3 said:

How did it lose exclusives? That never happened.

All their games can be played on two different platforms now.

How come you don't just run an HDMI cord from that beast PC of yours to the TV you play games on?

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i guess you are still salty about dead rising being a flop and you need to pay for the dlc for the true ending

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#70 nepu7supastar7
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@kvally:

You mean ps4 and pro?

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#71 kvally
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@Shewgenja said:
@kvally said:
@killered3 said:

How did it lose exclusives? That never happened.

All their games can be played on two different platforms now.

How come you don't just run an HDMI cord from that beast PC of yours to the TV you play games on?

I enjoy playing my Alienware Area 51 on my ASUS PG348Q, while I play my PS Pro and Xbox One S on my Vizio M70-D3 70" 4K UHD Smartcast. It's like gaming heaven at my house. Now I just need to work on my surround.

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#72 kvally
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@killered3 said:

@kvally:

You mean ps4 and pro?

Indeed.

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#73 Shewgenja
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@kvally said:
@Shewgenja said:
@kvally said:
@killered3 said:

How did it lose exclusives? That never happened.

All their games can be played on two different platforms now.

How come you don't just run an HDMI cord from that beast PC of yours to the TV you play games on?

I enjoy playing my Alienware Area 51 on my ASUS PG348Q, while I play my PS Pro and Xbox One S on my Vizio M70-D3 70" 4K UHD Smartcast. It's like gaming heaven at my house. Now I just need to work on my surround.

I'm just curious as to why you don't connect your PC to your TV. You'd likely be 4K native on all the things including your Steam library.

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#74  Edited By ni6htmare01
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@killered3: Thats his way to counter cows with all Xbox games going to PC. Anyway pretty much now one agreed with him but a few hard cord Lems like NyaDc lol

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#75  Edited By nepu7supastar7
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@kvally:

I enjoy gaming on Whoozitz 8K Ultra-Mega HD with adamentium surround sound speakers conveniently placed under the floorboards that create shockwaves of super, megaton, kickass quality sound. It's a fucking paradise where I am!

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#76 deactivated-60cd6c3d31f6d
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THE LAST GUARDIAN AAAE:

The first A stands for how Assblasted Kvally is about the absolute Playstationdomination

The second A stands for how Ashamed Kvally is for being an xtard

The thrid A stand for how Afraid Kvally is of the future AAAE/AAAAE Playstation exclusives

The E stands for Exclusives, something that Xbox has lost and will never regain

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#77 kvally
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@Shewgenja said:
@kvally said:
@Shewgenja said:
@kvally said:
@killered3 said:

How did it lose exclusives? That never happened.

All their games can be played on two different platforms now.

How come you don't just run an HDMI cord from that beast PC of yours to the TV you play games on?

I enjoy playing my Alienware Area 51 on my ASUS PG348Q, while I play my PS Pro and Xbox One S on my Vizio M70-D3 70" 4K UHD Smartcast. It's like gaming heaven at my house. Now I just need to work on my surround.

I'm just curious as to why you don't connect your PC to your TV. You'd likely be 4K native on all the things including your Steam library.

My son and I share the computer, and he is more of an avid PC gamer than I am (and does his homework on it), and it affords us to be able to play at the same time. I also have a living room (small) that is clutter free, so I don't want mouse, keyboards in my living room.

When we sell our place and move to Florida in 2018, I plan to buy a larger place. This will give me more living room space, which will allow for a ottoman that would have not only storage for a wireless keyboard and mouse, but a great top to place it on. Then I will most likely have a new PC, the latest Xbox and the latest PlayStation all hooked up. I should be able to change to an 80" 4K TV by then.

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#78 deactivated-60cd6c3d31f6d
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@dakur said:

I find it curious that both games that are causing gargantuan amounts of butthurt on lems (TLG and TLOU) have acronyms starting with TL. What other acronym starts with TL? That's right: TLHBO. Coincidence? Not a chance. Thank you Sony. TLHBO.

Lol, nicely done and yes TLHBO.

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@Desmonic said:

Man, the tears are real. Dat TLG effect.

If not, the timing is rather embarrassing.

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#80 Epak_
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The level of MS ass kissing is getting embarrassingly high.

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#81 kvally
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^agreed Epak. The MS and Sony ass kissing is at extreme high levels....we can see it brings out the best in people!

So hopefully 2017 remedies the PS direction.

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You are truly unreal, Kvally AKA lemmy-lem-lem. I don't think I've seen somebody around here so dedicated as you are to refusing to acknowledge reality. And that's saying something in a place like this. Seriously, for your own good I think you should take a break, as best you can, from this rabid case of salted lemness you've got going on. You may be too far gone, though. The awesome PSX this year, followed right after by TLG's 9/10 must have been the last straw for you. You appear to have detached entirely from even the concept of reality.

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#83 Epak_
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@kvally: Oh you.

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@kvally: So are you getting The Last Guardian or what?

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TLG did this much damage? Unforgettable. Simply unforgettable. Sony IP's are truly powerful.

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#86 Shewgenja
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@kvally said:
@Shewgenja said:
@kvally said:
@Shewgenja said:
@kvally said:

All their games can be played on two different platforms now.

How come you don't just run an HDMI cord from that beast PC of yours to the TV you play games on?

I enjoy playing my Alienware Area 51 on my ASUS PG348Q, while I play my PS Pro and Xbox One S on my Vizio M70-D3 70" 4K UHD Smartcast. It's like gaming heaven at my house. Now I just need to work on my surround.

I'm just curious as to why you don't connect your PC to your TV. You'd likely be 4K native on all the things including your Steam library.

My son and I share the computer, and he is more of an avid PC gamer than I am (and does his homework on it), and it affords us to be able to play at the same time. I also have a living room (small) that is clutter free, so I don't want mouse, keyboards in my living room.

When we sell our place and move to Florida in 2018, I plan to buy a larger place. This will give me more living room space, which will allow for a ottoman that would have not only storage for a wireless keyboard and mouse, but a great top to place it on. Then I will most likely have a new PC, the latest Xbox and the latest PlayStation all hooked up. I should be able to change to an 80" 4K TV by then.

That's actually pretty cool. Carry on as you were.

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#87 kvally
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@mazuiface: yes I will be on tonight.

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@kvally: lol mah dude.

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#89 Pedro
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The bait served. Bait eaten. Bait succeeded.

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#90 QuadKnight
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This thread in a nutshell.

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#91 tormentos
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@kvally said:

Meanwhile in PS land

Xbox land...

PS land...

Don't worry i am sure when scorpio get here you will play a good exclusive..

Maybe..hahahahahaa

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#92  Edited By KudoTsunodaFan
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Thread title is not wrong but could be more correct. PlayStation: The Flop of This Generation, how did it happen?

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#93 deactivated-5ac102a4472fe
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While TC is obviously trolling, there is quite a bit of truth in it.

I see people defending Playstation with PSX. Which is fairly ironic because we were there last year as well, great shows, but still little to play and "greatness waits" still. We do little more then waiting for games promised 2+ years ago. The PS4 did have a few good games on it this year, mostly multiplats, but that certainly does not mean that Playstation had a good year, it means gaming had a good year, which is not the same.

Currently I think Dragonquest builders and The Last Guardian are the best games on the platform currently for this year. Good games, but slim picking for a console that sold so much, no?

I find it rather funny that Playstation points finger at Xbox, but pretty much mirrors the same exact issues.

I hope we see the reason for a PS4 soon, I am getting rather tired of waiting for said greatness, so I would certainly prefer if the games shown at PSX are in stores next year, otherwise it would have been nothing but a great commercial with no substance... again..

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#94 darklight4
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@casharmy said:
@flyincloud1116 said:
@Desmonic said:

Man, the tears are real. Dat TLG effect.

Coming to a retailer near you.

Should be going into mass production right about now...

Mix it with your drinks for extra bitterness.

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#95 SecretPolice
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You think it's tough for cows this year? Next year the sting is gonna be real...Cows be like...

lol :P

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#96 kvally
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^lol! Take it easy on them SP!

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#97 SecretPolice
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@kvally:

Lololol, will do but that won't be the last time we see that meme I bet. :P

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#98 tormentos
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Meanwhile the PS4 continues to be the best selling console world wide and continues to be the market leader..

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#99  Edited By kvally
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@tormentos said:

Meanwhile the PS4 continues to be the best selling console world wide and continues to be the market leader..

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#100 SecretPolice
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@tormentos:

Dude, figured you would have already made a thread about this....

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/ps4-sales-pass-50-million-units-worldwide/1100-6446051/

Get on it mangy and never say the SP doesn't help ya out from time to time. lol :P