Please stop the Blue-Ray BS

Ok sure the blue ray format may be winning the Hd-dvd was BUT is not like is going o be the future...donloadable content IS the future....and plus dvd9 is FAR from dead....anyone heard of a little game called CRYSIS?!?!!?! yeah...well its bigger and better looking than ANY ps3 game and guess what..is being shipped in dvd9....i haven't heard of any pc titles being made for either HD-DVD or blue ray....we don't need need disks...we need bigger HDD....and MSFT is pretty smart...the knew of this and that is why they prefered adding a bigger HDD to the elite rather than HD-DVD player....5 years from now if blue ray wins the format war, it won't matter because people will be too busy downloading movies online...in HDtacubano

So tell me, what do you do if your hard drive fails. When you want to play your media at a friends house without having to take your entire 360 with you. What about when your hard drive fills up? And compare the cost of a bigger hard drive to a movie. You can't exactly download a lot of HD movies when they're 25GB+ in size. What about how long it takes to download such massive media. Just one would take hours at a steady 500KB/s.

So unless you want your console outfitted with 1TB hard drive and shell out a couple hundred extra dollars to download all your games and HD movies, discs are around to stay.

Theres so much nonsense talked about blueray in this forum its unbelievable

Currently there is nooooo way that blueray is needed to store the following game conrtent

Code

Models

Textures

(ie the important stuff)

Game content that is really helped by blueray storage

High def video

High def sound

(ie the luxuries)

I laugh my ass of when i here idiots say "but teh gta is teh limited by teh dvd9"

The size of a game like this will be less limited by disk size, than it is by dev time and cost.

Do you actually believe that blueray alone is magically going to increase the size of games ? Any extra content will have to be modelled and textured the same as for dvd9 content, and this will be always limited by the fact that next gen art-work is far and away the most expensive and time consuming aspect of creating next gen games.

[QUOTE="tacubano"]Ok sure the blue ray format may be winning the Hd-dvd was BUT is not like is going o be the future...donloadable content IS the future....and plus dvd9 is FAR from dead....anyone heard of a little game called CRYSIS?!?!!?! yeah...well its bigger and better looking than ANY ps3 game and guess what..is being shipped in dvd9....i haven't heard of any pc titles being made for either HD-DVD or blue ray....we don't need need disks...we need bigger HDD....and MSFT is pretty smart...the knew of this and that is why they prefered adding a bigger HDD to the elite rather than HD-DVD player....5 years from now if blue ray wins the format war, it won't matter because people will be too busy downloading movies online...in HDThompsonwhore

So tell me, what do you do if your hard drive fails. When you want to play your media at a friends house without having to take your entire 360 with you. What about when your hard drive fills up? And compare the cost of a bigger hard drive to a movie. You can't exactly download a lot of HD movies when they're 25GB+ in size. What about how long it takes to download such massive media. Just one would take hours at a steady 500KB/s.

So unless you want your console outfitted with 1TB hard drive and shell out a couple hundred extra dollars to download all your games and HD movies, discs are around to stay.

Ok sure the blue ray format may be winning the Hd-dvd was BUT is not like is going o be the future...donloadable content IS the future....and plus dvd9 is FAR from dead....anyone heard of a little game called CRYSIS?!?!!?! yeah...well its bigger and better looking than ANY ps3 game and guess what..is being shipped in dvd9....i haven't heard of any pc titles being made for either HD-DVD or blue ray....we don't need need disks...we need bigger HDD....and MSFT is pretty smart...the knew of this and that is why they prefered adding a bigger HDD to the elite rather than HD-DVD player....5 years from now if blue ray wins the format war, it won't matter because people will be too busy downloading movies online...in HDtacubano

Looks like ur a noob ;p

1- The first type of compression, u can only compress soo much to use the Disk on a console :)

This is what all console games are using.

2- The 2nd type of compression, U can use advanced compression to EXTREMELY compress and squeeze the data but anything like that will require u to Install the Entire CD into a Hard disk.This is WHAT CRYSIS IS USING :) AND MOST PC GAMES.

-With the PS3 Even with the Huge amount of Disk space, they can mix Options 1 and 2 on any of there games :) ( most Ps3 Exclusive are using this method, for example with sigma u can install to remove load time )

-GTA Cant fit there gaint game into a Dvd-9, they CAN't use option 2 like Crysis does because the Xbox coredoesn't have a Hard-disk :)

All Xbox games are getting limited from this. For example GoW, now its happning to GTA aswell

-GTA cant use 2 Disks, trust me u dont wana change disks when traveling from area to another in GTA :)

This problems is going to appear in future games

- Download is not the future for epic games, lets take MSG4 for example ;p its 50 Gig, ur really gona download 50 gig ?

I would never download games bigger than 15 Gig, im using 1 meg connection and its STILL GONA TAKE FOREVER. Rather buy the CD IMHO. .

And if HD-DVD dies, then Blue-Ray will slowly take over everything :)

Ok sure the blue ray format may be winning the Hd-dvd was BUT is not like is going o be the future...donloadable content IS the future....and plus dvd9 is FAR from dead....anyone heard of a little game called CRYSIS?!?!!?! yeah...well its bigger and better looking than ANY ps3 game and guess what..is being shipped in dvd9....i haven't heard of any pc titles being made for either HD-DVD or blue ray....we don't need need disks...we need bigger HDD....and MSFT is pretty smart...the knew of this and that is why they prefered adding a bigger HDD to the elite rather than HD-DVD player....5 years from now if blue ray wins the format war, it won't matter because people will be too busy downloading movies online...in HDtacubano

I agree. This HD disc thing seems very temporary from what I've read about the future of gaming and TV viewing. Everything is going to be downloadable. All you Sony sheeple think that BR is the future when they said the PS4 would not even have a physical drive, and I think same with the next Xbox...

Ok sure the blue ray format may be winning the Hd-dvd was BUT is not like is going o be the future...donloadable content IS the future....and plus dvd9 is FAR from dead....anyone heard of a little game called CRYSIS?!?!!?! yeah...well its bigger and better looking than ANY ps3 game and guess what..is being shipped in dvd9....i haven't heard of any pc titles being made for either HD-DVD or blue ray....we don't need need disks...we need bigger HDD....and MSFT is pretty smart...the knew of this and that is why they prefered adding a bigger HDD to the elite rather than HD-DVD player....5 years from now if blue ray wins the format war, it won't matter because people will be too busy downloading movies online...in HDtacubano

The fact is, people can be blind and argue all they want, but the more storage the disk has, the more popular it's going to be with developers. You guys talk like having 25-50 gigs of space on a disk is a bad thing. Even if it wasn't as important as people are saying, then why would it be a bad thing?

0rin

Sounds like we've got a whole bunch of HATERS that are upset about something...:lol: I love it...

I can't wait to watch 300 in HD!

*six hours later*

Alright half way done!

*six hours later*

Time to watch 300! Oh wait...its 6am an its time to go to work.

*microsoft deletes your 300 file after 14 days*

Hope ya had a chance to watch it.

All you Sony sheeple think that BR is the future when they said the PS4 would not even have a physical drive, and I think same with the next Xbox...Franco-J

[QUOTE="Franco-J"]All you Sony sheeple think that BR is the future when they said the PS4 would not even have a physical drive, and I think same with the next Xbox...0rin

Do you have a link to that quote?

[QUOTE="0rin"]First off, I can tell you are just talking to pick an argument, and know very little about what you say. Its called "Blu-ray" not blue ray or blue-ray. And second of all, Yes downloading HD content will surely be popular in the future. But do you honestly think it will be more popular than.. say.. renting movies is now?

I'm sure people will still prefer to own a physical copy of the movies they have.

And about Crysis, you say that as if EVERYONE IN THE WORLD CARES ABOUT THAT GAME. I for one don't. Its just another shooter, only with prettier graphics. Anyway, the reason its being shipped on DVD9 is because its a PC game. How many people do you know with a blu-ray player in their PC? hmm? count them. probably none.

Blu-ray is still a pretty expencive technology. LOL @ trying to insult "blue-ray" because a PC game is coming out on DVD-9.

Someone jealous their format isn't winning? Cry me a river, then go drown in your sorrow.tacubano

I'm not praising crysis, it just pisses me off how ps3 fanboys say that you need blu-ray for better games, with grater experiences, better graphics and etc. The only reason I point crysis, is because its a game that cannot be done in ps3 and is on dvd9

Who says this? Are you sure it isn't your own severe insecurities talking here?

[QUOTE="tacubano"]

[QUOTE="tekmojo"]PC titles took forever to get DVD discs so ya...chew on thattekmojo

what do u mean?

...........i haven't heard of any pc titles being made for either HD-DVD or blue ray....we don't need need disks...we need bigger HDD.........tacubano

People are still distrubuting software on CDs and DVDs. What makes you think we'll skip next-gen media formats (for movies/games/etc.) like Blu-ray and HD-DVD for digital transferring entirely? Digital media is great and all, but we don't have the capacities to transfer such loads on our current network infrastructure. Use your head man, this aint Japan.

Stupid Japan and their uber internetz =/

[QUOTE="0rin"]The fact is, people can be blind and argue all they want, but the more storage the disk has, the more popular it's going to be with developers. You guys talk like having 25-50 gigs of space on a disk is a bad thing. Even if it wasn't as important as people are saying, then why would it be a bad thing?

silverjiken

Well we don't want to overstimulate our developers do we?

Ok sure the blue ray format may be winning the Hd-dvd was BUT is not like is going o be the future...donloadable content IS the future....and plus dvd9 is FAR from dead....anyone heard of a little game called CRYSIS?!?!!?! yeah...well its bigger and better looking than ANY ps3 game and guess what..is being shipped in dvd9....i haven't heard of any pc titles being made for either HD-DVD or blue ray....we don't need need disks...we need bigger HDD....and MSFT is pretty smart...the knew of this and that is why they prefered adding a bigger HDD to the elite rather than HD-DVD player....5 years from now if blue ray wins the format war, it won't matter because people will be too busy downloading movies online...in HDtacubano

Just b/c you got internet (prob.broadband) doesn't mean every one else does. If your b*thcing about blu-ray than why the f*ck is microsof using DVDs, why not use CD-roms instead? Blu-ray doesnt always have to be used for videogames or movies, think for a second what other benifits blu-ray might have. Corporations/Businesses/Medical fields/ also are prob going to incorporate blu-ray for the benefits blu-ray provides. Of course blu-ray is not the future but it is for now (and hddvd), same thing w/dvd it sure as hell aint going to be the future, look at what happened to VHS. If you dont like blu-ray software or anything related to blu-ray just dont purchase it man. But blu-ray is sure a step up compared to dvd. Dont forget how much DVDs were when they first came out, You are right about downloading content that is prob the future but its still to early for that.

No, downloable content will only be a supplement, not a replacement.

1) Movie industry will never allow it to be the standard

2)ISPs will never allow it because it would cost them too much money with bandwidth. Many ISPs are already capping monthly downloads

3) Movie Buyers never download content. It would cost too much money to buy multiple hard drives to store your movies and there is the risk of them all being lost if your HD crashes.