Pokemon X Y review - Sheep Rejoice

6 from Gamespot.OreoMilkshake

The DS iterations of Pokemon have been fairly boring but the improvements made to X and Y look pretty stellar. Think I'll be picking this one up.

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[QUOTE="trugs26"]

I wasn't planning to but I think I might buy this today.

trugs26

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"]

Are those 1st party games? Nope, didn't think so.

FlamesOfGrey

I hope carolyn reviews it.

Con: Not enough female pokemon

ninjapirate2000

literally LOL'd

Vita is dooooomed.!!!

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"]

Are those 1st party games? Nope, didn't think so.

FlamesOfGrey

That's silly. You can be first, third, second, fiftieth or whatever party and it will still come down to what you want to put into your games. There is no strict reasoning why first party should make due with all the advancements in their tech. Several rarely use every strong feature maybe because of bloat or whatever anyways, so its not all on Nintendo's head. Beside the point since you are talking strictly about all first parties using their tech to the fullest, but just a heads up.

I agree they should have working 3D in the overworld, but they are not strained to do anything past what they want to do. If they get screwed over by sales because of it then it can be a cause for concern.

[QUOTE="ninjapirate2000"]

I hope carolyn reviews it.

Con: Not enough female pokemon

Suppaman100

I love how people are talking about that 3DS tax mumbo jumbo again. If Pokemon gets an 8 or below, it wouldn't suprise me at all, since the series has faults in it. You know.... games that have faults in it tend to get scored accordingly. This is just my opinion of course, but maybe that's how GS feels about it too, considering its a review site?

Don't chalk it up to some asinine thing such as some weird Nintendo bias. I'm not saying the high scores aren't right, but I'm just saying GS shouldn't be ridiculed because of lower scores. They like what they like, and sooner or later something may come that doesn't have glaring weakness.

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]Now your just grasping dude. P4g is one of the vitas biggest titles and people never gave it shit for not using extra features just for the sake of itfunsohng

I'm expecting 7 out of 10 quality. Pokemon is always "good" for what it is. Gamefreak just never branches out to reach it's full potential.

FlamesOfGrey

I'm sorry, but with claims like that I have to ask you to elaborate. I can't even agree or disagree with that because of how vague it is.

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"]

I'm expecting 7 out of 10 quality. Pokemon is always "good" for what it is. Gamefreak just never branches out to reach it's full potential.

TilxWLOC

I'm sorry, but with claims like that I have to ask you to elaborate. I can't even agree or disagree with that because of how vague it is.

If it gets above a 7.0 I will not talk about assassins creed for 2 weeks.PhazonBlazer

If it gets above a 7.0 I will not talk about assassins creed for 2 weeks.PhazonBlazer

o boy

[QUOTE="TilxWLOC"]

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"]

I'm expecting 7 out of 10 quality. Pokemon is always "good" for what it is. Gamefreak just never branches out to reach it's full potential.

FlamesOfGrey

I'm sorry, but with claims like that I have to ask you to elaborate. I can't even agree or disagree with that because of how vague it is.

I mean what I always mean. Their game structure has been the same thing since Red & Green. Small town, journey start, 8 gym badges, evil organization, elite 4, post game and whatever side content they choose to put in, in between. Pokemon has a vast universe with tons of choices for game structure and yet they stick to the same thing because people will buy it anyway.\

Pokemon could be an amazing RPG with different plot and progression structures with different concepts allowing the main character to take on breeding, being a gym leader etc.. and so forth but it's never done.

Sounds like you should play Pokemon Colosseum.

Anyway, While I disagree about the plot, I do think they should include some of the games other systems into the main game, like breeding. The closest they ever get to making you breed pokemon in the main game is in Gen 2 (4) where you get that Togepi egg. Personally, if they branch it out, I'd like more side content during the usual main quest. That'd do it for me, I don't want Pokemon to become story focused though.

On the other hand, this doesn't make the games, as they are, any worse in quality. You judge a game based on how it does what it does, not the things you wish it did.

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"]

[QUOTE="TilxWLOC"]

I'm sorry, but with claims like that I have to ask you to elaborate. I can't even agree or disagree with that because of how vague it is.

TilxWLOC

I mean what I always mean. Their game structure has been the same thing since Red & Green. Small town, journey start, 8 gym badges, evil organization, elite 4, post game and whatever side content they choose to put in, in between. Pokemon has a vast universe with tons of choices for game structure and yet they stick to the same thing because people will buy it anyway.\

Pokemon could be an amazing RPG with different plot and progression structures with different concepts allowing the main character to take on breeding, being a gym leader etc.. and so forth but it's never done.

Sounds like you should play Pokemon Colosseum.

Anyway, While I disagree about the plot, I do think they should include some of the games other systems into the main game, like breeding. The closest they ever get to making you breed pokemon in the main game is in Gen 2 (4) where you get that Togepi egg. Personally, if they branch it out, I'd like more side content during the usual main quest. That'd do it for me, I don't want Pokemon to become story focused though.

On the other hand, this doesn't make the games, as they are, any worse in quality. You judge a game based on how it does what it does, not the things you wish it did.

[QUOTE="TilxWLOC"]

Sounds like you should play Pokemon Colosseum.

Anyway, While I disagree about the plot, I do think they should include some of the games other systems into the main game, like breeding. The closest they ever get to making you breed pokemon in the main game is in Gen 2 (4) where you get that Togepi egg. Personally, if they branch it out, I'd like more side content during the usual main quest. That'd do it for me, I don't want Pokemon to become story focused though.

On the other hand, this doesn't make the games, as they are, any worse in quality. You judge a game based on how it does what it does, not the things you wish it did.

FlamesOfGrey

I have played both the Gamecube games (Colosseum & Gale Of Darkness). Those are not what I am talking about. I'm talking about a progression chosen by the player in one of Pokemon many directions for a trainer to go. It's not all about story there could be new and interesting gameplay mechanics made for the player as a result.

Yes, I do judge a game based on what it does and Pokemon doesn't do enough especially when it's rehashing the same progression for over 15 years and 5 generations. If you are okay with that then good on you.

Unless Pokemon starts to have scaling enemies, I don't see the game opening up too much, especially considering some of its fanbase (children). Branching paths was tried a bit in Gen 1-- actually in gen 3 and 2 also, as far as the order in which you progress through the usual scenerio is concerned. If you are talking about changing the formula itself, then that is exactly what the Gamecube games did.

It is fine if you judge a series by what the entire series has to offer, but-- since we're talking reviews here-- it isn't okay to judge a game on what other games in the series have done.

Again, I see where you're coming from, even if I don't agree. I wouldn't mind some more mixing it up myself, Colosseum is one of my favorites, but I don't agree that this affects the quality of any one game in the entire series.

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"]

[QUOTE="TilxWLOC"]

Sounds like you should play Pokemon Colosseum.

Anyway, While I disagree about the plot, I do think they should include some of the games other systems into the main game, like breeding. The closest they ever get to making you breed pokemon in the main game is in Gen 2 (4) where you get that Togepi egg. Personally, if they branch it out, I'd like more side content during the usual main quest. That'd do it for me, I don't want Pokemon to become story focused though.

On the other hand, this doesn't make the games, as they are, any worse in quality. You judge a game based on how it does what it does, not the things you wish it did.

TilxWLOC

I have played both the Gamecube games (Colosseum & Gale Of Darkness). Those are not what I am talking about. I'm talking about a progression chosen by the player in one of Pokemon many directions for a trainer to go. It's not all about story there could be new and interesting gameplay mechanics made for the player as a result.

Yes, I do judge a game based on what it does and Pokemon doesn't do enough especially when it's rehashing the same progression for over 15 years and 5 generations. If you are okay with that then good on you.

Unless Pokemon starts to have scaling enemies, I don't see the game opening up too much, especially considering some of its fanbase (children). Branching paths was tried a bit in Gen 1-- actually in gen 3 and 2 also, as far as the order in which you progress through the usual scenerio is concerned. If you are talking about changing the formula itself, then that is exactly what the Gamecube games did.

It is fine if you judge a series by what the entire series has to offer, but-- since we're talking reviews here-- it isn't okay to judge a game on what other games in the series have done.

Again, I see where you're coming from, even if I don't agree. I wouldn't mind some more mixing it up myself, Colosseum is one of my favorites, but I don't agree that this affects the quality of any one game in the entire series.

I'll wait for the reliable Gamespot review. >:[illmatic87

Why is Gamespot always late? lol. Do they need to wait and buy the game in the store or something?

If it gets above a 7.0 I will not talk about assassins creed for 2 weeks.PhazonBlazer

[QUOTE="PhazonBlazer"]If it gets above a 7.0 I will not talk about assassins creed for 2 weeks.charizard1605

[QUOTE="illmatic87"]I'll wait for the reliable Gamespot review. >:[Legend500

Why is Gamespot always late? lol. Do they need to wait and buy the game in the store or something?

They wait to see other reviews so they can give it a lower score compared to others.

Wel all know it'll get a 7 or a 8, at most, on Gamespot. 

Lucianu

I disagree.  The common complaint with Nintendo amongst game journalists is that they play it too safe--never putting in the work to create something very fresh.  WindwakerHD, NSMBU, Mario3D World, etc.  Pokemon looks like a lot of work and thought went into its design.  I think for this reason alone it will be recognized with a high score.  9.0, but I would not be surprised if it hits 9.5.

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

Wel all know it'll get a 7 or a 8, at most, on Gamespot. 

Heirren

I disagree.  The common complaint with Nintendo amongst game journalists is that they play it too safe--never putting in the work to create something very fresh.  WindwakerHD, NSMBU, Mario3D World, etc.  Pokemon looks like a lot of work and thought went into its design.  I think for this reason alone it will be recognized with a high score.  9.0, but I would not be surprised if it hits 9.5.

If Gamespot gives Pokemon a 9.0 or higher they will lose any credibility they've built up as a "tough" reviewer.

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

Wel all know it'll get a 7 or a 8, at most, on Gamespot. 

Heirren

I disagree.  The common complaint with Nintendo amongst game journalists is that they play it too safe--never putting in the work to create something very fresh.  WindwakerHD, NSMBU, Mario3D World, etc.  Pokemon looks like a lot of work and thought went into its design.  I think for this reason alone it will be recognized with a high score.  9.0, but I would not be surprised if it hits 9.5.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

Wel all know it'll get a 7 or a 8, at most, on Gamespot. 

crimsonman1245

I disagree.  The common complaint with Nintendo amongst game journalists is that they play it too safe--never putting in the work to create something very fresh.  WindwakerHD, NSMBU, Mario3D World, etc.  Pokemon looks like a lot of work and thought went into its design.  I think for this reason alone it will be recognized with a high score.  9.0, but I would not be surprised if it hits 9.5.

If Gamespot gives Pokemon a 9.0 or higher they will lose any credibility they've built up as a "tough" reviewer.

Received a 8.0 from GameSpot

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Received a 8.0 from GameSpot

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thom_maytees

If it gets above a 7.0 I will not talk about assassins creed for 2 weeks.PhazonBlazer