[POLL] Do you think RARE is a mediocre developer?

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#51 kingfire11
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[QUOTE="angryfodder"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="st1ka"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Nicely done TC :)SecretPolice

yeah from now on every time someone say's that RARE sucks or that they'v lsot their touch i urge everyone to use Stika's list of RARE does not suck

Indeed and a tip of the hat to you.

Really? See I think, like all stats, they are manipulated to prove the point of the poster.

What i actually see is 9-10 epic, some might say ground breaking games of teh N64 era and 4 good games of the current gen.

So yeah, i'd still say they have lost their touch a little. But they set themselves an almost impossible act to follow after the N64 era.

Also, rare may have kept going after the N64, but from the report I read, the teams that worked on the ground breaking gamers like goldeneye, disbanded.

A company is only as good as its employees

The original Banjo team remains intact and making Banjo N&B whilst those former Rare guys really outdone themselves in the making of Haze right ? :roll:

Exactly what I was going to say.

the original team that brought to us the greatness called Banjo is still there, those who left Rare made their own studio called Free something.... what have they produced to us this gen? guess what..HAZE!

it rocks right? lolz

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#52 Espada12
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Not mediocre, just not as they used to be. Also coupled with the fact that they are stuck up to make sequels of great games and not try placing gimmicks in them, I'd say they have fallen off their pedastal, but are still one step higher than most devs.
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#53 angryfodder
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Exactly what I was going to say.

the original team that brought to us the greatness called Banjo is still there, those who left Rare made their own studio called Free something.... what have they produced to us this gen? guess what..HAZE!

it rocks right? lolz

kingfire11

not played it - but even if it is that bad, it doesn't add anything to what rare is bringing to the table. I've seen nothing this gen that is the greatest of the rare of teh N64 days.

I've seen them murder the name perfect dark. PDZ was not a bad game, but they should of tweaked the characters and story and given it a different name IMO.

I have no hate for rare, but I have lost faith in them.

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#54 BubbyJello
Member since 2007 • 2750 Posts
You forgot Diddy Kong Racing DS.
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#55 ONLYDOD
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I don't think they are as good as they used to be, but they still make good games.
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#56 SolidTy
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Rare is the ONLY reason I chose xbox over PS2 and Gamecube.

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Wow. What a let down that entire generation must have been for you, watching the PS2 consistantly get great exclusives, and waiting for RARE to impress you. Also, you obviously didn't early adopt last gen, as RARE was on GC first, before the M$ 300+ Million Rare Buyout. I think Naughty Dog(Jak)/Insomniac(Ratchet)/Sucker Punch(Sly Cooper) became the New Rare last Generation. So while you were waiting for Rare's"Grabbed by the Ghoulies", PS2 gamers were playing on or more of those classics.

I also had an Xbox, but as a RARE fan and Platformer/Adventure Fan, PS2 owned last Generation. That would have been like Skipping the N64 back in the day and missing RARE's Glory Days.

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#57 angryfodder
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You forgot Diddy Kong Racing DS.BubbyJello

I don;t know if I over played the original or what, but I really didn't get along with the DS version. Took it almost straight back.

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#58 nintendoboy16  Online
Member since 2007 • 42224 Posts
Rare just feels dead to me, I may sound like a troll, but they just do.
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#59 WilliamRLBaker
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And people still haven't learned that scores tend to mean nothing in the end its what the people think I loved all the rare games every single last one so i picked others, They were all ways a great developer since you didn't give that option *all the options you gave say one thing they are mediocre right now* when they aren't.

Scores mean nothing, how people like the game and sales to a lesser extent mean every thing.
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#60 sargentbotk
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They were always great in my eyes. And by the numbers, they've become even much better.
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#61 EmperorZeruel
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i think rare should return to nintendo
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#62 deactivated-59da85d821feb
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My favourite N64 dev... gone a bit downhill though. They haven't released a game with the quality of Goldeneye or Perfect Dark this gen.
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#63 karasill
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Rare is a good dev, but not industry leading. They're above average.
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#64 Il_Exile_lI
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My favourite N64 dev... gone a bit downhill though. They haven't released a game with the quality of Goldeneye or Perfect Dark this gen.comeonthehoops

Maybe not, but they have released 3 AA and 1 AAA game this gen, most likely the leader as far as individual devs go.

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#65 ZeldaMaster32
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Rare creates games no other developers would make and each game is a masterpiece to me.

So no, Rare is not a mediocre developer.

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#66 Shinobishyguy
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They were god tier during the n64 days.

They became mediocre during the original xbox days. Seriously...the only noteworthy title from them last gen was a remake of Conker.

but now with Viva pinata and Banjo they are starting to improve. Not up to speed to their n64 works but still great none the less.

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#67 InfinityMugen
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Rare is not mediocre, but they definately lost something along the way.
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#68 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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There above average but they surley arent as good as they were on the SNES and N64 era.
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#69 spectravoid
Member since 2008 • 556 Posts

wow lets forget about outliers ok >_>

16bit and n64 was vintage rare, and if you don't believe it, ur retarded

the only thing worthwhile they put on the 360 was viva pinata

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#70 Espada12
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Rare creates games no other developers would make and each game is a masterpiece to me.

So no, Rare is not a mediocre developer.

ZeldaMaster32

FPS and platformers? =/

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#71 ZeldaMaster32
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FPS and platformers? =/

Espada12

Poorly worded on my part.

Unique design, art, and ideas. Pinatas for one.

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#72 Espada12
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

FPS and platformers? =/

ZeldaMaster32

Poorly worded on my part.

Unique design, art, and ideas. Pinatas for one.

Oh, yea I would agree with that.. I don't think most devs would actually use Pinatas as characters in a game lol

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#73 Zero5000X
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the only thing those scores indicate is that reviewers have almost no credibility.
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#74 Heydanbud92
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they are good, they just need to prove themselves again with a new breakout hit game.
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#75 wooooode
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We all know they were great but just dont seem to be leading the market with fresh ideas and style anymore. Kameo was one of the reasons I got a 360 at launch and really got board with it fast, Viva could not hold my attention either so with these medicore games and the games from last gen they have slipped for sure.
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#76 spectravoid
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the thing is, nintendo really did rip off microsoft with this deal
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#77 Zero5000X
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Lets see....

Second best 2d platformer.................. check!

Best and second best 3d platformers.....check!

thats enough for me.

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#78 spectravoid
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Lets see....

Second best 2d platformer.................. check!

Best and second best 3d platformers.....check!

thats enough for me.

Zero5000X

banjo was amazing, but not the best 3d platformer

mario is still head and shoulders above it,

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#79 vashkey
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No. They have fallen a bit, but they arent quite mediocre.
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#80 DanteSuikoden
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[QUOTE="Fawlcon_Pawnch"]

Many more left since.

st1ka

link?

The whole Rare story is a bit iffy but the fact remains that Xbox's main demographic doesnt want what Rare is best atFawlcon_Pawnch

true, but then agan Viva pinata and PDZ sold a million, Kameo sold 700K these are not bad numbers by any means

MS doesnt treat them as they should and they are left making a few games from time to time

Fawlcon_Pawnch

link? RARE has said before that they are happy with the freedom microsoft gives them

Maybe that's the problem, I guess they worked better under pressure:?

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#81 Senor_Kami
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Rare is the ONLY reason I chose xbox over PS2 and Gamecube.

SolidTy

Wow. What a let down that entire generation must have been for you, watching the PS2 consistantly get great exclusives, and waiting for RARE to impress you. Also, you obviously didn't early adopt last gen, as RARE was on GC first, before the M$ 300+ Million Rare Buyout. I think Naughty Dog(Jak)/Insomniac(Ratchet)/Sucker Punch(Sly Cooper) became the New Rare last Generation. So while you were waiting for Rare's"Grabbed by the Ghoulies", PS2 gamers were playing on or more of those classics.

I also had an Xbox, but as a RARE fan and Platformer/Adventure Fan, PS2 owned last Generation. That would have been like Skipping the N64 back in the day and missing RARE's Glory Days.

You seem to have alot of vitrol in your post, lol.

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#82 naruto7777
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they lowered a lot
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#83 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]

Lets see....

Second best 2d platformer.................. check!

Best and second best 3d platformers.....check!

thats enough for me.

spectravoid

banjo was amazing, but not the best 3d platformer

mario is still head and shoulders above it,

dude.,..Banjo kazooie basically took everything that made SM64 good...and did it better.