Poll: Which Of These Is The Downfall Of Gaming This Generation?

which of these options is the worst thing about this generation?

It's a tie between DLC and short single player campaigns, that's why I love the 1st 2 No One Lives Forever games, they both had 20 hours and that's great for FPSs.

I'm torn between the first and last choice, but in a way the last choice includes the first choice, so I went with the last choice.

Single player is too short

WHAT THE HELL!!! All of those things are distroying gaming, how am I supposed to choose one???????

I would choose the consoles are too expensive option, but I don't feel that Xbox Live is that much of a problem at all. Consoles being $400-$600 at launch is just plain stupid. You have to have a lot of disposable income to be able to afford all the consoles, and a PC as well.

I just want all the consoles to be gaming oriented, and around $200 or less with all necessary features ready out of the box.

I would choose the consoles are too expensive option, but I don't feel that Xbox Live is that much of a problem at all. Consoles being $400-$600 at launch is just plain stupid. You have to have a lot of disposable income to be able to afford all the consoles, and a PC as well.

I just want all the consoles to be gaming oriented, and around $200 or less with all necessary features ready out of the box.

treedoor

lrn2creditcard?

It's not hard to find deals for no interest on credit cards if paid off within a certain amount of time. And if you think $400 is a lot, well, all I can say is that a $200 360 will match $400 in only 4 years of Xbox Live. From that point on, it gets more expensive than the PS3 with each additional year of Xbox Live. And that doesn't even factor in other reasons why the 360 is a more expensive console, which I won't get into here.

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

I would choose the consoles are too expensive option, but I don't feel that Xbox Live is that much of a problem at all. Consoles being $400-$600 at launch is just plain stupid. You have to have a lot of disposable income to be able to afford all the consoles, and a PC as well.

I just want all the consoles to be gaming oriented, and around $200 or less with all necessary features ready out of the box.

lolfaqs

lrn2creditcard?

It's not hard to find deals for no interest on credit cards if paid off within a certain amount of time. And if you think $400 is a lot, well, all I can say is that a $200 360 will match $400 in only 4 years of Xbox Live. From that point on, it gets more expensive than the PS3 with each additional year of Xbox Live. And that doesn't even factor in other reasons why the 360 is a more expensive console, which I won't get into here.

You can't stop the marketing, right? Not even in a thread that has nothing to do with the PS3. :|

Nintendo Wii , its killing gaming, I mean Wii Fit seems to be the #1 game each month time and time againSonic_on_crack

I would say the lack of new IP's as more and more developers do not want to take the risk on a new game.

I said casual, mainly because I'm scared that's where it will all go... More importantly is the cost of this gen though, not just for the consumers, but for the devs as well.carljohnson3456

yeah, because of the production costs devs are not willing to spend money on something quirky and original for fear that it will not make them money (that's the difference between this generation and last generation, too many sequels etc). production costs are also the reason why sp campaigns are so short nowadays.

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

I would choose the consoles are too expensive option, but I don't feel that Xbox Live is that much of a problem at all. Consoles being $400-$600 at launch is just plain stupid. You have to have a lot of disposable income to be able to afford all the consoles, and a PC as well.

I just want all the consoles to be gaming oriented, and around $200 or less with all necessary features ready out of the box.

lolfaqs

lrn2creditcard?

It's not hard to find deals for no interest on credit cards if paid off within a certain amount of time. And if you think $400 is a lot, well, all I can say is that a $200 360 will match $400 in only 4 years of Xbox Live. From that point on, it gets more expensive than the PS3 with each additional year of Xbox Live. And that doesn't even factor in other reasons why the 360 is a more expensive console, which I won't get into here.

Their is this thing called common sense that you have to factor in if you are going to start an argument.

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

I would choose the consoles are too expensive option, but I don't feel that Xbox Live is that much of a problem at all. Consoles being $400-$600 at launch is just plain stupid. You have to have a lot of disposable income to be able to afford all the consoles, and a PC as well.

I just want all the consoles to be gaming oriented, and around $200 or less with all necessary features ready out of the box.

lolfaqs

lrn2creditcard?

It's not hard to find deals for no interest on credit cards if paid off within a certain amount of time. And if you think $400 is a lot, well, all I can say is that a $200 360 will match $400 in only 4 years of Xbox Live. From that point on, it gets more expensive than the PS3 with each additional year of Xbox Live. And that doesn't even factor in other reasons why the 360 is a more expensive console, which I won't get into here.

Well, I actually have the money to buy all the consoles, but I'm not going to.

Wii $250 + games and extra accessories? Probably around $400 just to start me off.

Xbox 360 elite $400 + games and an XBL account around $500-$600

PS3 with games and accessories also around $500-$600.

So just to start myself off with all the consoles it's over $1500....For gaming? And not to mention that's if you only want a game or two per system.

All systems should be around $200, and the games should all be $40-$50 with cheap accessories. End of story imo.

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[QUOTE="treedoor"]

I would choose the consoles are too expensive option, but I don't feel that Xbox Live is that much of a problem at all. Consoles being $400-$600 at launch is just plain stupid. You have to have a lot of disposable income to be able to afford all the consoles, and a PC as well.

I just want all the consoles to be gaming oriented, and around $200 or less with all necessary features ready out of the box.

IronBass

lrn2creditcard?

It's not hard to find deals for no interest on credit cards if paid off within a certain amount of time. And if you think $400 is a lot, well, all I can say is that a $200 360 will match $400 in only 4 years of Xbox Live. From that point on, it gets more expensive than the PS3 with each additional year of Xbox Live. And that doesn't even factor in other reasons why the 360 is a more expensive console, which I won't get into here.

You can't stop the marketing, right? Not even in a thread that has nothing to do with the PS3. :|

It's true though. Saying the 360 is cheaper is the equivalent of saying an apartment is cheaper because it has a $1 rent for the first month followed by $500 rent for every subsequent month compared to another apartment with no move-in special and a monthly rent of $400.

CURSE DOWNLOADABLE CONTENT!

Really annoying.

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

I would choose the consoles are too expensive option, but I don't feel that Xbox Live is that much of a problem at all. Consoles being $400-$600 at launch is just plain stupid. You have to have a lot of disposable income to be able to afford all the consoles, and a PC as well.

I just want all the consoles to be gaming oriented, and around $200 or less with all necessary features ready out of the box.

lolfaqs

lrn2creditcard?

It's not hard to find deals for no interest on credit cards if paid off within a certain amount of time. And if you think $400 is a lot, well, all I can say is that a $200 360 will match $400 in only 4 years of Xbox Live. From that point on, it gets more expensive than the PS3 with each additional year of Xbox Live. And that doesn't even factor in other reasons why the 360 is a more expensive console, which I won't get into here.

[QUOTE="Sonic_on_crack"]Nintendo Wii , its killing gaming, I mean Wii Fit seems to be the #1 game each month time and time againIronBass

[QUOTE="Sonic_on_crack"]Nintendo Wii , its killing gaming, I mean Wii Fit seems to be the #1 game each month time and time againIronBass

if casual crap is what sells, why would a developer take a chance on something truly innovative and groundbreaking? i think his point is in the coming the years the gaming industry may alienate the hardcore crowd in favor for soccer moms and little kids

The high cost of game development.

[QUOTE="IronBass"]

[QUOTE="lolfaqs"]

lrn2creditcard?

It's not hard to find deals for no interest on credit cards if paid off within a certain amount of time. And if you think $400 is a lot, well, all I can say is that a $200 360 will match $400 in only 4 years of Xbox Live. From that point on, it gets more expensive than the PS3 with each additional year of Xbox Live. And that doesn't even factor in other reasons why the 360 is a more expensive console, which I won't get into here.

lolfaqs

You can't stop the marketing, right? Not even in a thread that has nothing to do with the PS3. :|

It's true though. Saying the 360 is cheaper is the equivalent of saying an apartment is cheaper because it has a $1 rent for the first month followed by $500 rent for every subsequent month compared to another apartment with no move-in special and a monthly rent of $400.

I didn't even say that the 360 was cheaper. Where did I say that? You obviously read it somewhere in my post if you were encouraged to reply with this garbage?

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Sonic_on_crack"]Nintendo Wii , its killing gaming, I mean Wii Fit seems to be the #1 game each month time and time againBoogie_J

if casual crap is what sells, why would a developer take a chance on something truly innovative and groundbreaking? i think his point is in the coming the years the gaming industry may alienate the hardcore crowd in favor for soccer moms and little kids

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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Sonic_on_crack"]Nintendo Wii , its killing gaming, I mean Wii Fit seems to be the #1 game each month time and time againBoogie_J

if casual crap is what sells, why would a developer take a chance on something truly innovative and groundbreaking? i think his point is in the coming the years the gaming industry may alienate the hardcore crowd in favor for soccer moms and little kids

But the largest selling games on the Wii are the "hordcore" ones. AND shovelware has ALWAYS existed with the industry. There have always been developers seeking to making budget titles for a quick buck.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Sonic_on_crack"]Nintendo Wii , its killing gaming, I mean Wii Fit seems to be the #1 game each month time and time againBoogie_J

if casual crap is what sells, why would a developer take a chance on something truly innovative and groundbreaking? i think his point is in the coming the years the gaming industry may alienate the hardcore crowd in favor for soccer moms and little kids

Wii Fit is not 'casual crap' -- its a quality piece of software aimed at a certain audience -- gaming has always been ruled by 'casual' gamers and accessible titles. I'm sorry if you only see it now because of the Wii because its been spoon fed to you by Nintendo, unlike Sony's approach with the PS1/PS2.

It's true though. Saying the 360 is cheaper is the equivalent of saying an apartment is cheaper because it has a $1 rent for the first month followed by $500 rent for every subsequent month compared to another apartment with no move-in special and a monthly rent of $400.lolfaqs

Didn't realize gaming was in a downfall. I don't really see DLC as a negative. It's optional, not all of it was ready for disc when the title released, and it's a good way for companies to keep up their profit.

Also, must be because of my preferred genre but I really don't care about the "shorter" game length.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Sonic_on_crack"]Nintendo Wii , its killing gaming, I mean Wii Fit seems to be the #1 game each month time and time againBoogie_J

if casual crap is what sells, why would a developer take a chance on something truly innovative and groundbreaking? i think his point is in the coming the years the gaming industry may alienate the hardcore crowd in favor for soccer moms and little kids

[QUOTE="Boogie_J"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] And how's that killing gaming?organic_machine

if casual crap is what sells, why would a developer take a chance on something truly innovative and groundbreaking? i think his point is in the coming the years the gaming industry may alienate the hardcore crowd in favor for soccer moms and little kids

But the largest selling games on the Wii are the "hordcore" ones. AND shovelware has ALWAYS existed with the industry. There have always been developers seeking to making budget titles for a quick buck.

[QUOTE="Boogie_J"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] And how's that killing gaming?IronBass

if casual crap is what sells, why would a developer take a chance on something truly innovative and groundbreaking? i think his point is in the coming the years the gaming industry may alienate the hardcore crowd in favor for soccer moms and little kids

[QUOTE="Boogie_J"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] And how's that killing gaming?organic_machine

if casual crap is what sells, why would a developer take a chance on something truly innovative and groundbreaking? i think his point is in the coming the years the gaming industry may alienate the hardcore crowd in favor for soccer moms and little kids

But the largest selling games on the Wii are the "hordcore" ones. AND shovelware has ALWAYS existed with the industry. There have always been developers seeking to making budget titles for a quick buck.

wii fit sold 17 million copies and shows no sign of slowing down. I dont consider wii fit a hardcore game. guitar hero, rock band, and their endless spinoffs have also sold many milions of copies. the industry is changing and you'll see that in the coming years (quote me on that). devs are not going to take any chances in a recession. expect more casual crap and sequels

yeah and chances are EA wont spend time making more Dead Space games while it only sold like 2 million, when they can make Wii crap like Wii play or Wii fit and sell 7 million copiesSonic_on_crack

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Boogie_J"]

if casual crap is what sells, why would a developer take a chance on something truly innovative and groundbreaking? i think his point is in the coming the years the gaming industry may alienate the hardcore crowd in favor for soccer moms and little kids

Sonic_on_crack

[QUOTE="Sonic_on_crack"][QUOTE="IronBass"] And has that happened? Has the Wii stopped us for playing games like Dead Space, Fallout 3, Fable II, Gears 2, MadWorld, Halo Wars, LBP, Killzone 2, RE5, SFIV? Those games have come out in a SIX MONTHS gap. The Wii is not destroying anyhing. The "if"s and "when"s are irrelevant if the actual reality is clearly different.Haziqonfire

Not. Enough. New. IPs.

None of those.I'm just fine with gaming this gen.As for the downfall of gaming,hardcore gamers will be the cause if they get their wish of annihilating anything casual from the world of gaming.

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[QUOTE="Sonic_on_crack"] yeah and chances are EA wont spend time making more Dead Space games while it only sold like 2 million, when they can make Wii crap like Wii play or Wii fit and sell 7 million copiesZaistev_basic

They cannot afford to take a loss -- as the games industry is their primary source of profit, sony and microsoft have other areas to regain losses.

None of those.I'm just fine with gaming this gen.As for the downfall of gaming,hardcore gamers will be the cause if they get their wish of annihilating anything casual from the world of gaming.

789shadow

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

None of those.I'm just fine with gaming this gen.As for the downfall of gaming,hardcore gamers will be the cause if they get their wish of annihilating anything casual from the world of gaming.

Zaistev_basic

OK,fine,elitist gamers then.

[QUOTE="Zaistev_basic"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"] Listen bud, look at sales numbers of a bunch of games like Halo, Killzone, GTAIV, etc -- they're selling, and selling well. Just because you have this ridiculous amount of hate for Wii and anything related doesn't mean your right ;).

They cannot afford to take a loss -- as the games industry is their primary source of profit, sony and microsoft have other areas to regain losses.