Ppl who ''pirate'' Psp Games and own a PS3 ,Do they have the right to defendSONY

I'm just Asking i go to this forum about psp(You'll probably know the Website)They'll Always defend the Sony products and talk Smack about the 360 ,and always say that the 360 is garbage,and that

The PS3 will demolish the xbox brand I was wondering do they have the right to back sony and there products ?

pirating helps prevent global warming.

i'm all for it.

pirating helps prevent global warming.

i'm all for it.

Adonymous

THIS MAN IS AWESOME.

Not everyone is super rich and can afford to spend $40-$50 on video games.RyuHayabusaX

That's a really bad defense. I mean, I've pirated games before and that certainly wasn't a factor. Twas merely cuz I was a cheap bastard.

I guess they have a "right" to say whatever they want, but it's a little bit laughable that they think Sony can demolish the 360 when it is already struggling financially and they're not paying for their Sony products. I wonder if they realise that it takes money to do things like increasing market share.

Not everyone is super rich and can afford to spend $40-$50 on video games. I would say yes, people can go defend whoever they want to, it's not like it'll make a difference in this world because they're just wasting their time. RyuHayabusaX

i Agree, people would not go throught the effort to hack a system if they didnt like it in the first place. but people still need to buy games to support the devs

Wow you guys take this way to seriously. People can defend whatever they want they still bought the PSP even if they hacked it they are defending their purchase just like anyone else. Stop caring about companies they don't care about you. All this arguing is just a way to waste time not to be taken seriously. Fanboys act like its an honor to do this arguing like your some sort of knight for your company. No your just a fanboy arguing with another fanboy its as simple as that.Blackification

Piracy = less games companies able to turn a profit = less games for me, so yes i do care and i wouldn't feel bad about getting banned for saying what i feel about game pirates, they can suck an egg.

Wow you guys take this way to seriously. People can defend whatever they want they still bought the PSP even if they hacked it they are defending their purchase just like anyone else. Stop caring about companies they don't care about you. All this arguing is just a way to waste time not to be taken seriously. Fanboys act like its an honor to do this arguing like your some sort of knight for your company. No your just a fanboy arguing with another fanboy its as simple as that.Blackification

LOL

sony fans should priate square enix games from now on, since they screwed ps3 fans over so why not return the favourbigLLL

Trust me square will get screwed for this no matter. I have a few family members that have a modded 360 and wii and they were going to buy a ps3 just for FF13 but ever since they found out FF13 was coming to the 360 they jumped for joy and said now they dont have to buy a ps3, they will just burn FF13 for the 360 version. As much as I dont like piracy I cant blame them for it, if it is a way u can get free games. Its like blaming some1 for downloading music or movies for free. Its just the way it is.

emulating games that aren't on psp is ok with me cus nobody is providing that service. But pirating actual games that should be paid for is unforgivable, devs put such hard work into these games and A holes come along and steal them.hongkingkong

emulating games that aren't on the PSP that you are supposed to buy is NOT ok. right?

what happened to the good ol' pirates.....you know the ones that looked for buried treasure...and wore eye patches :(

[QUOTE="hongkingkong"]emulating games that aren't on psp is ok with me cus nobody is providing that service. But pirating actual games that should be paid for is unforgivable, devs put such hard work into these games and A holes come along and steal them.flazzle

emulating games that aren't on the PSP that you are supposed to buy is NOT ok. right?

[QUOTE="flazzle"]

[QUOTE="hongkingkong"]emulating games that aren't on psp is ok with me cus nobody is providing that service. But pirating actual games that should be paid for is unforgivable, devs put such hard work into these games and A holes come along and steal them.hongkingkong

emulating games that aren't on the PSP that you are supposed to buy is NOT ok. right?

Baloney. If the game is still owned by a company they have a right to make money with it and not allow it to be ripped off just because its not available on another medium.

And those game are available! Those games are being sold on the Virtual Console. Its not up to you do determine if they would make or lose money.

Thats like saying "I don't own a PS2! But I can play them on my PC. I'll just take the latest rom, no one is losing money!" Ignorant.

They have not finished "making their profit".

If you have ROMS on your PSP that are sold in another form by a publisher (VC, collection disk , etc) you are STEALING. No gray area about it.

And what's this about 'making their profit'? Do you think they should be free because they are old and cost nothing to produce anymore?

It's the same for PC gamers. Hermits have no rights defending that PC gaming considering they are the ones who's killing it.XenogearsMaster

Not everyone is super rich and can afford to spend $40-$50 on video games. RyuHayabusaX

[QUOTE="Adonymous"]

pirating helps prevent global warming.

i'm all for it.

musicaz70

THIS MAN IS AWESOME.

lol

Wow you guys take this way to seriously. People can defend whatever they want they still bought the PSP even if they hacked it they are defending their purchase just like anyone else. Stop caring about companies they don't care about you. All this arguing is just a way to waste time not to be taken seriously. Fanboys act like its an honor to do this arguing like your some sort of knight for your company. No your just a fanboy arguing with another fanboy its as simple as that.Blackification

Some companies do care; some that are in charge of a series actually consult fans about what they didn't like in the previous ones and what they want to see in the next ones, as well as taking feedback throughout development. I've seen a dev change an aspect of the game after fan outcry in the middle of development.

But it's more than that, and more than "defending" a company. It makes you a hypocrite to whine about games not meeting expectations if you pirate games. The reason why they'd be churning out run-of-the-mill average games rather than unique ones is the same reason why movie companies churn out average movies: when the investment to make the game/movie is so large, and when so many people are pirating it so the profit isn't as great these days, you can't afford to take risks. Expect more sequels, less new IP.

And beyond that, it's a morality issue completely disconnected from any concern about the company. Do you have the right to steal? What if everyone did as you did? If you can't accept that (that others should pirate it because of all the consequences that would ensue if everyone pirated) then how can you accept it from yourself?

As much as I dont like piracy I cant blame them for it, if it is a way u can get free games. Its like blaming some1 for downloading music or movies for free. Its just the way it is.clintos59

It's like blaming someone for stealing merchandise and clothing from a store. It's like blaming someone for robbing a convenience store. It's stealing. It's taking something that does not belong to you. Every young child intuitively understands that this is wrong. What's the constant refrain of little kids when another kid takes their toy? "THAT'SNOTFAIR!!!!" So when did we forget what we knew as children?

[QUOTE="hongkingkong"]If nobody is providing the service for a psp i think its ok.ie consoles not sold in stores anymore like snes games are morally ok to emulate considering the console and games are no longer available and they have made their profit and now pulled from production. Ergo nintendo loose or gain no money whatsoever either way seeing as you'd be buying the thing from ebay anyway.flazzle

Baloney. If the game is still owned by a company they have a right to make money with it and not allow it to be ripped off just because its not available on another medium.And those game are available! Those games are being sold on the Virtual Console. Its not up to you do determine if they would make or lose money.Thats like saying "I don't own a PS2! But I can play them on my PC. I'll just take the latest rom, no one is losing money!" Ignorant.

They have not finished "making their profit".If you have ROMS on your PSP that are sold in another form by a publisher (VC, collection disk , etc) you are STEALING. No gray area about it.And what's this about 'making their profit'? Do you think they should be free because they are old and cost nothing to produce anymore?

I think what he was saying is that if it's not available on VC, or any other medium. Hence why he said: "snes games are morally ok to emulate considering the console and GAMES ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE". And it's not like pirating games for the PS2, because the PS2 is still in production. Hence why he said: "snes games are morally ok to emulate considering the CONSOLE and games ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE". And the morality of it, as explained by hongkingkong, doesn't hinge on whether they "cost nothing to produce anymore"; it hinges on whether they are AVAILABLE. Aka, in production, being produced, being distributed by the publisher, possible to buy first-hand.

Not everyone is super rich and can afford to spend $40-$50 on video games. RyuHayabusaX

Yup same thing happened with me when when I was looking for a car. Couldn't afford one so I stole it. I told the cops that I couldn't afford it so they let me go.

I think what he was saying is that if it's not available on VC, or any other medium. Hence why he said: "snes games are morally ok to emulate considering the console and GAMES ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE". And it's not like pirating games for the PS2, because the PS2 is still in production. Hence why he said: "snes games are morally ok to emulate considering the CONSOLE and games ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE". And the morality of it, as explained by hongkingkong, doesn't hinge on whether they "cost nothing to produce anymore"; it hinges on whether they are AVAILABLE. Aka, in production, being produced, being distributed by the publisher, possible to buy first-hand.

clicketyclick

How about games YET to make it on VC? VC has put tohse games 'back in production' so to speak. Is there a list of SNES games, or any games for that matter, that Nintendo allows to be emulated?

If not, it's not up to him to decide if its legal to emulate or not.

Just because a movie or song is no longer being produced, doesn't mean you can do what you see fit with it.

He brought up the "cost nothing to produce" anymore. I was wondering where he was going with that.

Just because something isn't "AVAILABLE", does not make it an automatic free-for-all to go get the rom. If you don't own the original cartridge, you shouldn't own the ROM.

How about games YET to make it on VC? VC has put tohse games 'back in production' so to speak. Is there a list of SNES games, or any games for that matter, that Nintendo allows to be emulated?

If not, it's not up to him to decide if its legal to emulate or not.

Just because a movie or song is no longer being produced, doesn't mean you can do what you see fit with it.

He brought up the "cost nothing to produce" anymore. I was wondering where he was going with that.

Just because something isn't "AVAILABLE", does not make it an automatic free-for-all to go get the rom. If you don't own the original cartridge, you shouldn't own the ROM.

flazzle

Technically, legally, you are not allowed to own the ROM even if you do own the cartridge. But that's just ridiculous. And PC gamers know that no-cd patches are useful for people who own the game too. It's impractical to be required to have the cd on hand with you at all times you want to play. But those aren't allowed either.

Similarly, it is equally impractical to put a hold on playing a game simply because maybe just maybe it will be rehashed for profit at some point in the distant future. And you know, I played chrono trigger on emulator and I plan on buying it for DS when it comes out. The people who are buying from VC are not exclusively those who have never played the game before. Many own the original and are rebuying it. And many played it on an emulator prior. People want to play it again.

And I don't see where he brought up the "cost nothing to produce". He said "pulled from production".

[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"]It's the same for PC gamers. Hermits have no rights defending that PC gaming considering they are the ones who's killing it.taker42

Yup, sig the truth.

Technically, legally, you are not allowed to own the ROM even if you do own the cartridge. But that's just ridiculous.

clicketyclick

Why is that ridiculous? It's THEIR product. Not yours. When you bought the game, you didn't buy the rights to do with it as you see fit. You can smash the game, paint it blue, whatever, sure. But you did NOT buy any rights to the intellectual property and/or obtain the right to obtain the code in a different form, such as a ROM. You are NOT entitled to that ROM, in any way, shape or form. You didn't publish it, you didn't make it, you didn't sell it.

If it's not available anymore. Too bad. Do what everyone else does for stuff that can't be in ROM format: go without, or buy it on EBAY.

And yes, the great "I emulated it and then I plan on buying it/did go buy it." That means nothing. Why don't you just wait until it comes out instead of stealing it? What you did is wrong. How many other games did you rip off?

Game companies have every right to make money on their old intellectual property, just like movie companies do with old movies, music companies do with old music, book companies, etc. Some Beatles discs cost just as much as new ones. Doesn't give ANYONE a right to illegaly download them. You are actually part of the problem.

Here, this should educate you on copyright legality, from a very good source:

Nintendo Legal says Hi

There is some good reading near the bottom.

Why is that ridiculous? It's THEIR product. Not yours. When you bought the game, you didn't buy the rights to do with it as you see fit. You can smash the game, paint it blue, whatever, sure. But you did NOT buy any rights to the intellectual property and/or obtain the right to obtain the code in a different form, such as a ROM. You are NOT entitled to that ROM, in any way, shape or form. You didn't publish it, you didn't make it, you didn't sell it.

If it's not available anymore. Too bad. Do what everyone else does for stuff that can't be in ROM format: go without, or buy it on EBAY.

And yes, the great "I emulated it and then I plan on buying it/did go buy it." That means nothing. Why don't you just wait until it comes out instead of stealing it? What you did is wrong. How many other games did you rip off?

Game companies have every right to make money on their old intellectual property, just like movie companies do with old movies, music companies do with old music, book companies, etc. Some Beatles discs cost just as much as new ones. Doesn't give ANYONE a right to illegaly download them. You are actually part of the problem.

Here, this should educate you on copyright legality, from a very good source:

Nintendo Legal says Hi

There is some good reading near the bottom.

flazzle

LOL! You were the one who originally said, "If you don't own the original cartridge, you shouldn't own the ROM" - meaning that it's okay to own the ROM if you own the cartridge. Sudden change of heart?

It's ridiculous because you bought the game. With anything that you buy, you should have the right to do whatever you like with it except for copying it to sell for money. Technically, you're not allowed to photocopy a book. But just imagine how ridiculous things would be if people actually followed the law on that. A REASONABLE moral limit is that you can photocopy the book... as long as you're not selling the photocopies for money. And iTunes is now recognising this reasonable moral limit by distributing music that is DRM-free - meaning you can play it on any music player and play it on as many computer music libraries as you like and burn it to as many CDs as you like. That's how it should be. As long as it's for your own personal use.

As for buying it on Ebay... what's the point? The company isn't getting that money. Someone else is. It doesn't help the company out at all to buy it on ebay - you just don't seem to be grasping this fact. And when the platform on which the game is played is no longer in production, then it doesn't help you either to buy a game you can't play off of Ebay.

Why don't I wait till it comes out? Because at that point, there was no sign that it WAS coming out. It's absolutely illogical to wait to play the oldies out of the remote possibility that they MAY be remade. EVERYONE should play the oldies so they have a better understanding of where ideas came from and what games were like back in the golden era. It really puts this gen in perspective and shows just how great and involving a game can be without amazing graphics. And that people still buy old games when they get newly distributed though they've played them before DOES matter. It goes to show that you're overreacting over nothing.

LOL! You were the one who originally said, "If you don't own the original cartridge, you shouldn't own the ROM" - meaning that it's okay to own the ROM if you own the cartridge. Sudden change of heart?

clicketyclick

Why? Did I say if you don't own the ROM it's ok to own the game?

It's ridiculous because you bought the game. With anything that you buy, you should have the right to do whatever you like with it except for copying it to sell for money. Technically, you're not allowed to photocopy a book. But just imagine how ridiculous things would be if people actually followed the law on that. A REASONABLE moral limit is that you can photocopy the book... as long as you're not selling the photocopies for money. And iTunes is now recognising this reasonable moral limit by distributing music that is DRM-free - meaning you can play it on any music player and play it on as many computer music libraries as you like and burn it to as many CDs as you like. That's how it should be. As long as it's for your own personal use.

clicketyclick

Sorry, you are flat out wrong. Just because you bought the game does NOT give you the right to do whatever you want with it. I don't think you fully grasp the concept of intellectual property. Research that and maybe you'll understand

As for buying it on Ebay... what's the point? The company isn't getting that money. Someone else is. It doesn't help the company out at all to buy it on ebay - you just don't seem to be grasping this fact. And when the platform on which the game is played is no longer in production, then it doesn't help you either to buy a game you can't play off of Ebay.

clicketyclick

Buying what was sold by Nintendo for its intended purposes from somebody else is LEGAL. You just don't seem to be grasping THIS fact. You have no right to it under any other form unless granted permission from the publisher. What is so hard to understand about that?

Why don't I wait till it comes out? Because at that point, there was no sign that it WAS coming out. It's absolutely illogical to wait to play the oldies out of the remote possibility that they MAY be remade. EVERYONE should play the oldies so they have a better understanding of where ideas came from and what games were like back in the golden era. It really puts this gen in perspective and shows just how great and involving a game can be without amazing graphics. And that people still buy old games when they get newly distributed though they've played them before DOES matter. It goes to show that you're overreacting over nothing.

clicketyclick

All you stated above is OPINION. While it may be illogical, what you did is ILLEGAL. Write Nintendo and tell them what you did and see what they say.

You can call them at 1-800-255-3700 or e-mail them at piracyscene@noa.nintendo.co.

Tell them all about your Chrono Trigger and everything else you ROM'd. Or I can ask for you! :)

You can create excuses and arguments, even ones that appear logical on the surface.

Actually, watch this. I bet you totally agree him Vid

[QUOTE="RyuHayabusaX"]Not everyone is super rich and can afford to spend $40-$50 on video games. I would say yes, people can go defend whoever they want to, it's not like it'll make a difference in this world because they're just wasting their time. cyprusxx

i Agree, people would not go throught the effort to hack a system if they didnt like it in the first place. but people still need to buy games to support the devs

before I got a job I did pirate games, but I also bought games.I don't thinkpiracy hurts sales as much as people assume. If I didn't pirate the games that I did, I wouldn't buy them either, I would just be left there wondering what the game was like. The ones that I really liked, I bought

Why? Did I say if you don't own the ROM it's ok to own the game?flazzle

You put a qualifier on when it is wrong to own the ROM. You said it's wrong "if you don't own the original cartridge". The implicit statement is that it's okay if you do own the cartridge, otherwise, there would be no "if". You're just changing your tune and pretending you've been consistent to mask the fact that you were incorrect. :D

Sorry, you are flat out wrong. Just because you bought the game does NOT give you the right to do whatever you want with it. I don't think you fully grasp the concept of intellectual property. Research that and maybe you'll understandflazzle

Since you know so much about intellectual property, you probably understand that music is IP as well. Yet finally we are coming to an era, as I described, when a music distributor like iTunes provides music that can be played on ANY player - not just their own hardware - and can be copied and burned as many times as you like. That is how IP like records and games should work.

Buying what was sold by Nintendo for its intended purposes from somebody else is LEGAL. You just don't seem to be grasping THIS fact. You have no right to it under any other form unless granted permission from the publisher. What is so hard to understand about that?All you stated above is OPINION. While it may be illogical, what you did is ILLEGAL. Write Nintendo and tell them what you did and see what they say.flazzle

What you don't understand is that there is a difference between what is LEGAL and what is MORAL. What hongkingkong was discussing was the morality of piracy and the moral limits of it. That is what we have been discussing all this time. The law is clear - no room for discussion as to what the legal limits are - but the law isn't always right or practical, as I've been trying to point out to you with the comparisons to photocopying etc.

The reason for debating about morality is because laws change to reflect the current understanding of morality. New understanding of morality is only gained by challenging current notions and presenting logical arguments and debating it. Only a few hundred years ago, it was legal to torture people for a confession. But it wasn't moral, and things have changed because people started questioning it. Laws have changed drastically even from the beginning of the 1900s. Morality on the other hand, is always constant. It's just that it's not always properly grasped because each time a question arises, people like you attempt to end all debate by insisting that the current law = morality and must be upheld even though "it may be illogical".

[QUOTE="Blackification"]Wow you guys take this way to seriously. People can defend whatever they want they still bought the PSP even if they hacked it they are defending their purchase just like anyone else. Stop caring about companies they don't care about you. All this arguing is just a way to waste time not to be taken seriously. Fanboys act like its an honor to do this arguing like your some sort of knight for your company. No your just a fanboy arguing with another fanboy its as simple as that.clicketyclick

Some companies do care; some that are in charge of a series actually consult fans about what they didn't like in the previous ones and what they want to see in the next ones, as well as taking feedback throughout development. I've seen a dev change an aspect of the game after fan outcry in the middle of development.

But it's more than that, and more than "defending" a company. It makes you a hypocrite to whine about games not meeting expectations if you pirate games. The reason why they'd be churning out run-of-the-mill average games rather than unique ones is the same reason why movie companies churn out average movies: when the investment to make the game/movie is so large, and when so many people are pirating it so the profit isn't as great these days, you can't afford to take risks. Expect more sequels, less new IP.

And beyond that, it's a morality issue completely disconnected from any concern about the company. Do you have the right to steal? What if everyone did as you did? If you can't accept that (that others should pirate it because of all the consequences that would ensue if everyone pirated) then how can you accept it from yourself?

As much as I dont like piracy I cant blame them for it, if it is a way u can get free games. Its like blaming some1 for downloading music or movies for free. Its just the way it is.clintos59

It's like blaming someone for stealing merchandise and clothing from a store. It's like blaming someone for robbing a convenience store. It's stealing. It's taking something that does not belong to you. Every young child intuitively understands that this is wrong. What's the constant refrain of little kids when another kid takes their toy? "THAT'SNOTFAIR!!!!" So when did we forget what we knew as children?

[QUOTE="hongkingkong"]If nobody is providing the service for a psp i think its ok.ie consoles not sold in stores anymore like snes games are morally ok to emulate considering the console and games are no longer available and they have made their profit and now pulled from production. Ergo nintendo loose or gain no money whatsoever either way seeing as you'd be buying the thing from ebay anyway.flazzle

Baloney. If the game is still owned by a company they have a right to make money with it and not allow it to be ripped off just because its not available on another medium.And those game are available! Those games are being sold on the Virtual Console. Its not up to you do determine if they would make or lose money.Thats like saying "I don't own a PS2! But I can play them on my PC. I'll just take the latest rom, no one is losing money!" Ignorant.

They have not finished "making their profit".If you have ROMS on your PSP that are sold in another form by a publisher (VC, collection disk , etc) you are STEALING. No gray area about it.And what's this about 'making their profit'? Do you think they should be free because they are old and cost nothing to produce anymore?

I think what he was saying is that if it's not available on VC, or any other medium. Hence why he said: "snes games are morally ok to emulate considering the console and GAMES ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE". And it's not like pirating games for the PS2, because the PS2 is still in production. Hence why he said: "snes games are morally ok to emulate considering the CONSOLE and games ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE". And the morality of it, as explained by hongkingkong, doesn't hinge on whether they "cost nothing to produce anymore"; it hinges on whether they are AVAILABLE. Aka, in production, being produced, being distributed by the publisher, possible to buy first-hand.

I understand where u are coming from, but how are u going to stop it? Its just no way, trying to stop piracy is just as difficult as trying to stop terrorist. U just cant and never will find all of them. U can find a few of them but there will always be more. I am totally against piracy because I think if it gets out of hand where devs aint getting money, they might stop creating good games and not care for there work much, and also the gaming industry can go down if piracy becomes a huge factor. I dont think it ever will get to that point but u never know. U know what will blow though is if they decide to make u pay more for internet because of such things, that would blow.

Freedom of speach remember but they look stupid.

Not everyone is super rich and can afford to spend $40-$50 on video games. I would say yes, people can go defend whoever they want to, it's not like it'll make a difference in this world because they're just wasting their time. RyuHayabusaX

They should develop PSPs that transform into Terminators to combat the pirates!!! If all else fails, send in the ninjas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They could defend Sony, just not the game companies since they're buying PSPs (Sony), but not the games. But I still say we send in the ninjas.

Since you know so much about intellectual property, you probably understand that music is IP as well. Yet finally we are coming to an era, as I described, when a music distributor like iTunes provides music that can be played on ANY player - not just their own hardware - and can be copied and burned as many times as you like. That is how IP like records and games should work.

clicketyclick

Is that allowed by Apple? If so, then its LEGAL. Not up to you decide its OK for you to STEAL a game, theif.

What you don't understand is that there is a difference between what is LEGAL and what is MORAL. What hongkingkong was discussing was the morality of piracy and the moral limits of it. That is what we have been discussing all this time. The law is clear - no room for discussion as to what the legal limits are - but the law isn't always right or practical, as I've been trying to point out to you with the comparisons to photocopying etc.

The reason for debating about morality is because laws change to reflect the current understanding of morality. New understanding of morality is only gained by challenging current notions and presenting logical arguments and debating it. Only a few hundred years ago, it was legal to torture people for a confession. But it wasn't moral, and things have changed because people started questioning it. Laws have changed drastically even from the beginning of the 1900s. Morality on the other hand, is always constant. It's just that it's not always properly grasped because each time a question arises, people like you attempt to end all debate by insisting that the current law = morality and must be upheld even though "it may be illogical".

clicketyclick

Tell you what. I'll call the Nintendo piracy hotline and lead them to your post about getting your Chrono Trigger ROM without paying for the game, but I'll emphasize the fact that you are eventually planning to buy the game.

Whether you want to paint it a different color or use creative logic that you aren't doing anything wrong (and since you obviosly didn't read what Nintendo said about copywright of games), getting a ROM game that is not allowed by the publisher, regardless of how old or whatever, is ILLEGAL. You are doing something WRONG. You are part of the PROBLEM.

If you don't like the law, work to change it. Or simply get a job so you don't have to steal.

I understand where u are coming from, but how are u going to stop it? Its just no way, trying to stop piracy is just as difficult as trying to stop terrorist. U just cant and never will find all of them. U can find a few of them but there will always be more. I am totally against piracy because I think if it gets out of hand where devs aint getting money, they might stop creating good games and not care for there work much, and also the gaming industry can go down if piracy becomes a huge factor. I dont think it ever will get to that point but u never know. U know what will blow though is if they decide to make u pay more for internet because of such things, that would blow.

clintos59

Well, it's a moral decision to stop it. I've made a personal decision not to download illegal music or download ROMS I'm not supposed to , nor do I steal movies (I like watching my movies in a theater anyway).

What's disgusting is these people trying to justify it or have the gall to say 'I'll steal it now, but buy it later, so its ok."

"Yeah, I'm going to get a Vette next month, but let I'll just drive it off the lot now and pay later..." .

Or better yet, "Well, if I buy it off Ebay, the publisher doesn't get the money!" Yeah, well, #1, its a legal way. #2, by stealing it, the guy on Ebay doesn't get any money either.

"Oh, I want to TRY the game out before buying!"

Try a demo.

"oh, but the game I want doesn't have a demo."

Read a review.

"Oh, but I can't find a review and/or reviews don't speak to me like actually playing!"

Oh ok. Then just TAKE it. You are justified now. /sarcasm

Yeah, there are always going to be theives. There is always going to be alot of other despicle types of people.

Pirating on the PSP is the only reason alot of people buy it.Gh0st_Of_0nyx

lol yup every1 in my school who owns a psp which is atleast a hundred ppl have it modded cuz thers one guy who knows how to and charges just 5 bucks for unlimited games.

same thing with music who really buys it nowdays.

Pirating on the PSP is the only reason alot of people buy it.Gh0st_Of_0nyx

I'm sure thats why a few people buy it. In Japan it's picking up steam and the PSP game sales are coinciding.

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Pirating on the PSP is the only reason alot of people buy it.flazzle

I'm sure thats why a few people buy it. In Japan it's picking up steam and the PSP game sales are coinciding.

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Pirating on the PSP is the only reason alot of people buy it.coltss

lol yup every1 in my school who owns a psp which is atleast a hundred ppl have it modded cuz thers one guy who knows how to and charges just 5 bucks for unlimited games.

same thing with music who really buys it nowdays.

See, now that's sad. Because let's say publisher was going to legally allow those now pirated games to be available. If they spent the money to publish such a collection, it wouldn't sell as much if at all because now a wide group of people stole them. That is sales lost, hurt by piracy.

(Yes, I know, Nintendo would never allow their games to be played on a PSP, but that's not the point: point is, games are stolen and pirated and now there are less people to sell to)