Premium services are 'milking customers to death' says Crytek CEO Cevat Yerli

"Right now we are in the transitional phase of our company, transitioning from packaged goods games into an entirely free-to-play experience.

"What this entails is that our future, all the new games that we're working on, as well new projects, new platforms and technologies, are designed around free-to-play and online, with the highest quality development."

"If you look at what kind of games are done in the packaged goods market, with DLCs and premium services and whatnot, it's literally milking the customers to death."

People have got to remember the crappy COD Elite and the new Battlefield Premium right? Shoving DLC down our throats and treating people who bought the original game like crap.

"Right now we are in the transitional phase of our company, transitioning from packaged goods games into an entirely free-to-play experience.

"What this entails is that our future, all the new games that we're working on, as well new projects, new platforms and technologies, are designed around free-to-play and online, with the highest quality development."

"If you look at what kind of games are done in the packaged goods market, with DLCs and premium services and whatnot, it's literally milking the customers to death."

People have got to remember the crappy COD Elite and the new Battlefield Premium right? Shoving DLC down our throats and treating people who bought the original game like crap.

ocstew

Im glad a big Dev like Crytek is going f2p. It means that f2p games will continue to improve. I hate when people dismiss a game without trying it because its f2p. Thats mostly due to the fact that for years f2p meant basically medicore Korean mmos but even f2p mmos have gotten alot better.

People will buy it regardless because they don't want to boycott it and have everyone else buy it and they're left out. If you could get everyone together and have 100% certainty that none of them would buy it then it would work. Also some people feel the quality in those games like CoD and BF3 are worth paying extra for and Cevat is the last person to talk about the quality of a game. But I do understand his point and I resonate with it. But what can you do?

"Right now we are in the transitional phase of our company, transitioning from packaged goods games into an entirely free-to-play experience.

"What this entails is that our future, all the new games that we're working on, as well new projects, new platforms and technologies, are designed around free-to-play and online, with the highest quality development."

"If you look at what kind of games are done in the packaged goods market, with DLCs and premium services and whatnot, it's literally milking the customers to death."

People have got to remember the crappy COD Elite and the new Battlefield Premium right? Shoving DLC down our throats and treating people who bought the original game like crap.

ocstew

I guess that make him a cow since he is using a logical perspective of a gamer/consumer to look at how these practices affect people. I expect lemmings to bash him heavily since these comments make him such a huge Sony fanboy.

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"Right now we are in the transitional phase of our company, transitioning from packaged goods games into an entirely free-to-play experience.

"What this entails is that our future, all the new games that we're working on, as well new projects, new platforms and technologies, are designed around free-to-play and online, with the highest quality development."

"If you look at what kind of games are done in the packaged goods market, with DLCs and premium services and whatnot, it's literally milking the customers to death."

People have got to remember the crappy COD Elite and the new Battlefield Premium right? Shoving DLC down our throats and treating people who bought the original game like crap.

JC_Spot

It's still $50 additional. I do think Battlefield series in general is better, but that doesn't make this Premium thing a "deal". Battlefield Premium gives you some maps, and throws in a few guns and vehicles. So what. That doesn't make the total value of the game $110 to me. It actually isn't that much better than what they did with Bad Company 2 as part of the "VIP" code, yet in that game all the updates fell under the "VIP" code which came with pre-orders of the game. Vietnam was marketed as the ONE expansion pack that was special, and worth $15+ as a 1 time expansion. Good luck convincing me that 3 or 4 of these packs will *ALL* be worth $15 EACH - which is what is needed to justify what they are doing.

No company will ever extract $110 from me for a single game. They should be lucky if I"m willing to give them $50.

consumers are idiots most of the time they will vote against themselves with their wallets.kuraimen

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]consumers are idiots most of the time they will vote against themselves with their wallets.Grey_Eyed_Elf

lol, you left out a few very important things...and one bigger than all those you listed. Think "premium services" and it shouldn't be too hard.

I really dont care what a person does with their money most of the time. the only when i do care is if their buying something like heroine or cocaine.

[QUOTE="Grey_Eyed_Elf"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]consumers are idiots most of the time they will vote against themselves with their wallets.casharmy

lol, you left out a few very important things...and one bigger than all those you listed. Think "premium services" and it shouldn't be too hard.

F2P means no single player, and that makes me sad.

I really don't want to see the end of single player games. Multiplayer is great fun, but the experiance is so radcially different in single player. Not to meniton, with multiplayer have to rely upon an active community. That's not something to bet on for most games.

F2P means no single player, and that makes me sad.

I really don't want to see the end of single player games. Multiplayer is great fun, but the experiance is so radcially different in single player. Not to meniton, with multiplayer have to rely upon an active community. That's not something to bet on for most games.

Wasdie

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F2P means no single player, and that makes me sad.

I really don't want to see the end of single player games. Multiplayer is great fun, but the experiance is so radcially different in single player. Not to meniton, with multiplayer have to rely upon an active community. That's not something to bet on for most games.

Grey_Eyed_Elf

[QUOTE="Grey_Eyed_Elf"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

F2P means no single player, and that makes me sad.

I really don't want to see the end of single player games. Multiplayer is great fun, but the experiance is so radcially different in single player. Not to meniton, with multiplayer have to rely upon an active community. That's not something to bet on for most games.

JC_Spot

Cinematic isn't all bad, games like Uncharted and Heavy Rain do it very well. The main complaint against cinematic gameplay is when games, series or genres that don't at all require that kind of gameplay get it thrust upon them.

DLC in general though I am against, unless it's a result of consumers asking for it or it being of genuine value, like a full on expansion. DLC that is planned and being developed before release or even ready to ship before release day is a crime.

That's precisely why its bad.

[QUOTE="JC_Spot"][QUOTE="Grey_Eyed_Elf"] With heavy emphasis on cinematic experiences and obsessive amounts of quick time event's along with short campaign's with excessive early DLC... single player games may kill them selves off.Grey_Eyed_Elf

Cinematic isn't all bad, games like Uncharted and Heavy Rain do it very well. The main complaint against cinematic gameplay is when games, series or genres that don't at all require that kind of gameplay get it thrust upon them.

DLC in general though I am against, unless it's a result of consumers asking for it or it being of genuine value, like a full on expansion. DLC that is planned and being developed before release or even ready to ship before release day is a crime.

That's precisely why its bad.

Yeah and when Crysis 3 comes out watch as he announces a premium DLC plan.JohnF111

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[QUOTE="JC_Spot"]

Cinematic isn't all bad, games like Uncharted and Heavy Rain do it very well. The main complaint against cinematic gameplay is when games, series or genres that don't at all require that kind of gameplay get it thrust upon them.

DLC in general though I am against, unless it's a result of consumers asking for it or it being of genuine value, like a full on expansion. DLC that is planned and being developed before release or even ready to ship before release day is a crime.JC_Spot

That's precisely why its bad.

[QUOTE="Grey_Eyed_Elf"]

[QUOTE="JC_Spot"]

Cinematic isn't all bad, games like Uncharted and Heavy Rain do it very well. The main complaint against cinematic gameplay is when games, series or genres that don't at all require that kind of gameplay get it thrust upon them.

DLC in general though I am against, unless it's a result of consumers asking for it or it being of genuine value, like a full on expansion. DLC that is planned and being developed before release or even ready to ship before release day is a crime.JC_Spot

That's precisely why its bad.