Project Offset GDC videos - better LOOKING than Crysis

If I were Intel, I'd ship it free with any version of the card.

Crysis had a huge install base, even Shader 2 cards run it, and it's playable on systems below the minimum recommended. I know because I finished it a few times on such a machine.

Sonic - why do you hate Intel?

Larrabee's revolutionary, it offers linear scalability and developers can program absolutely anything, without API restrictions.

Baranga

And, now they're monopolizing Project Offset ... and I was so excited for it too :(

I'd rather have Intel monopolizing and giving us good products than Nvidia selling us the same cards since 2006, only overclocked and with another sticker.

The GPU industry hasn't really moved forward in the last few years.

[QUOTE="Ncsoftlover"]

[QUOTE="DeckardLee"]

Read the article. I am currently searching the internet for more information but everything I found seems to say "Intel-based platform exclusive" or "Larrabee exclusive". If I find anything that says contrary I'll post it, but from what I can find, you CANNOT play this game unless you have a Larrabee.

I hope that isn't true since I was so excited for this game and looks so great.

Sonic_on_crack

The game will have much less potential customers at launch than Crysis if that's true.

Offset is launching with Larabee, of course it will be better than Crysis. :|

Aljosa23

I'd rather have Intel monopolizing and giving us good products than Nvidia selling us the same cards since 2006, only overclocked and with another sticker.

The GPU industry hasn't really moved forward in the last few years.

Baranga

[QUOTE="Sonic_on_crack"][QUOTE="Ncsoftlover"]

The game will have much less potential customers at launch than Crysis if that's true.

PC360Wii

All I'm saying is it would suck if Larabree isnt all its cracked up to be and Nvidia brings out a card within a couple months that smashes it but wont run Project Offset

I'd rather have Intel monopolizing and giving us good products than Nvidia selling us the same cards since 2006, only overclocked and with another sticker.

The GPU industry hasn't really moved forward in the last few years.

Baranga

That's not quite true.

Also, Crytek didn't just lock things out of DirectX 9. for no reason Direct X 9 is old and can't support some things in Direct X 10. Besides, the Direct X 9 version of Crysis looks damn near identical to DX10 but with much better performance if you unlock the "Very High" settings for DX9. That still doesn't mean that there isn't things that DX9 doesn't support; it's just that it doesn't make that much of a difference. Waves, however, are quite a bit better in DX10 from what I've seen. Also, memory management is much better in DX10.

More replies at:

http://www.projectoffset.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=313&start=0

[QUOTE="turaaggeli"]

[QUOTE="TheEliteTeam20"]

Crysis will kill this. :lol:

Quote me. If this surpasses Crysis in graphics, I will leave GameSpot forever, kill my parents, go to a school and slaughter some kids, hijack an airplane and crash it into the White House.

Quote me on this, all users on GameSpot. Oh, and this is not a joke.

TheEliteTeam20

That's not funny. Joke or no joke......

Couldn't care less. That's what I'm willing to do if this game transcends Crysis. You guys all underestimate the graphics power of Crysis.

[QUOTE="TheEliteTeam20"]

[QUOTE="turaaggeli"]

That's not funny. Joke or no joke......

coltsfan4ever

Couldn't care less. That's what I'm willing to do if this game transcends Crysis. You guys all underestimate the graphics power of Crysis.

I can't believe you responded seriously to that. Even if what he is saying isn't a joke, he's still to retarded to get past "leave GameSpot".

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

Offset is launching with Larabee, of course it will be better than Crysis. :|

Couth_

What about SLI and Crossfire Technology also I'm a ATI guy so I dont sympathize. Sonic_on_crack

Larrabee offers linear scalability up to 32 cores. This means that when you go to buy one, you choose the card that has the X amount of cores, at the Y clock speed. A card with 32 cores at the Y speed will have the exact double performance of the one with 16 cores at the same speed.

For a card with 48 cores, the performance drop is only 10% of what would be expected if it continued the linear increase.

This is an amazing technological achievement. If you have SLI/CF, you won't have linear scalability, and in many games the increase in performance is small, or the framerate even drops.

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

I'd rather have Intel monopolizing and giving us good products than Nvidia selling us the same cards since 2006, only overclocked and with another sticker.

The GPU industry hasn't really moved forward in the last few years.

DeckardLee

That's not quite true.

Well, apart from the 8/9800GT and ATI's double GPU series, there aren't many innovations or evolutions. Seriously, who cares about the ability to play two HD movies at the same time? You buy a Mac if you're into that thing...

Anyway, an i7 and a Larrabee sounds like a good upgrade combo. If you have DX10 cards and a dual or a quad-core, you can still get a good price on those:D

[QUOTE="coltsfan4ever"]

[QUOTE="TheEliteTeam20"]

Couldn't care less. That's what I'm willing to do if this game transcends Crysis. You guys all underestimate the graphics power of Crysis.

DeckardLee

I can't believe you responded seriously to that. Even if what he is saying isn't a joke, he's still to retarded to get past "leave GameSpot".

[QUOTE="Sonic_on_crack"]

Larrabee offers linear scalability up to 32 cores. This means that when you go to buy one, you choose the card that has the X amount of cores, at the Y clock speed. A card with 32 cores at the Y speed will have the exact double performance of the one with 16 cores at the same speed.

For a card with 48 cores, the performance drop is only 10% of what would be expected if it continued the linear increase.

This is an amazing technological achievement. If you have SLI/CF, you won't have linear scalability, and in many games the increase in performance is small, or the framerate even drops.

[QUOTE="DeckardLee"]

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

I'd rather have Intel monopolizing and giving us good products than Nvidia selling us the same cards since 2006, only overclocked and with another sticker.

The GPU industry hasn't really moved forward in the last few years.

Baranga

That's not quite true.

Well, apart from the 8/9800GT and ATI's double GPU series, there aren't many innovations or evolutions. Seriously, who cares about the ability to play two HD movies at the same time? You buy a Mac if you're into that thing...

Anyway, an i7 and a Larrabee sounds like a good upgrade combo. If you have DX10 cards and a dual or a quad-core, you can still get a good price on those:D

You're right about that. I'm just saying there's more difference between the cards than clock speed. In fact, the GTX 285/295 has some features similar to the Larrabee. They introduced GPGPU cores which is similar to what the Larrabee is doing. We could actually see the GTX 300 have more of them which will be similar to the Larrabee.

I remember how Nvidia spent 4 days at NVISION 2008, saying Larrabe is "marketing puff" and "equal to GPUs from 2006":lol:

Looks great. Wish I had proper knowledge of PC hardware and a bit of money... sigh

I so wanna play these games. They look so freaking cool!

fend_oblivion

How long has it been since Project Offset was first announced? RK-Mara

How long has it been since Project Offset was first announced? RK-Mara

Almost 4 years. Entered full production one year ago.

I hope they don't change the name, even if the website hints at that.

Tc should change title to better LOOKING than crysis. I can think of several games with better gameplay. It aint the holy grail that people think it is IMO. I dont care for Halo 3 (and please dont start Halo Fanboys) but i actually played through it more than once. I cant say that about Crysis, or the expansion.

Hermits fighting amongst each other?! TheGrat1

I guess that's another reason why they call us hermits >_>

Tc should change title to better LOOKING than crysis. I can think of several games with better gameplay. It aint the holy grail that people think it is IMO. I dont care for Halo 3 (and please dont start Halo Fanboys) but i actually played through it more than once. I cant say that about Crysis, or the expansion.

Bazfrag

Good point, delivered.

Cheers :)

Tc should change title to better LOOKING than crysis. I can think of several games with better gameplay. It aint the holy grail that people think it is IMO. I dont care for Halo 3 (and please dont start Halo Fanboys) but i actually played through it more than once. I cant say that about Crysis, or the expansion.

Bazfrag

[QUOTE="RK-Mara"]How long has it been since Project Offset was first announced? SteezyZ

Since when did an ENGINE need a GAME to be respected? Project Offset is an engine. The name of the game is not Project Offset.So, since you mentioned the name of the engine and not the game, you're referring to the engine whether you know it or not.

Hermits fighting amongst each other?! :o PC gaming is dying confirmed! :cry: :PTheGrat1

Who was fighting? This is either a joke topic or one of the worst in SW's recent history.

um, no. sorry but they are going to have to show more then that,besides what was shown was not so impressive to me.killzowned24

I remember how Nvidia spent 4 days at NVISION 2008, saying Larrabe is "marketing puff" and "equal to GPUs from 2006":lol:

Baranga

[QUOTE="SteezyZ"][QUOTE="RK-Mara"]How long has it been since Project Offset was first announced? DeckardLee

Since when did an ENGINE need a GAME to be respected? Project Offset is an engine. The name of the game is not Project Offset.So, since you mentioned the name of the engine and not the game, you're referring to the engine whether you know it or not.

uh...the name of the game is Project Offset...

you have no idea what your talking about.

[QUOTE="TheGrat1"]Hermits fighting amongst each other?! :o PC gaming is dying confirmed! :cry: :PDeckardLee

Who was fighting? This is either a joke topic or one of the worst in SW's recent history.

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

I remember how Nvidia spent 4 days at NVISION 2008, saying Larrabe is "marketing puff" and "equal to GPUs from 2006":lol:

OnLive

[QUOTE="OnLive"][QUOTE="Baranga"]

I remember how Nvidia spent 4 days at NVISION 2008, saying Larrabe is "marketing puff" and "equal to GPUs from 2006":lol:

Sonic_on_crack

software.intel.com/file/2824

It's a PDF document filled with technical stuff. The benchmarks are at page 8.

[QUOTE="DeckardLee"]

[QUOTE="SteezyZ"] Ding-ding-ding, we have a winner. It's "put up or shut up" time for the PO guys..and it had better be one heck of a game the graphics for me to care anymore.cobrax75

Since when did an ENGINE need a GAME to be respected? Project Offset is an engine. The name of the game is not Project Offset.So, since you mentioned the name of the engine and not the game, you're referring to the engine whether you know it or not.

uh...the name of the game is Project Offset...

you have no idea what your talking about.

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

[QUOTE="DeckardLee"]

Since when did an ENGINE need a GAME to be respected? Project Offset is an engine. The name of the game is not Project Offset.So, since you mentioned the name of the engine and not the game, you're referring to the engine whether you know it or not.

SteezyZ

uh...the name of the game is Project Offset...

you have no idea what your talking about.

No, the name of the game IS NOT PROJECT OFFSET. That's just the tentative title they're using at the moment. Check the main website. It says clearly in the FAQ that "Project Offset" is a tentative title for the game.

YOU don't know what YOU'RE talking about.

[QUOTE="Sonic_on_crack"][QUOTE="OnLive"] lol yea proof is in the pudding, and the benchmarks on the Larrabee from last year are amazing.Baranga

software.intel.com/file/2824

It's a PDF document filled with technical stuff. The benchmarks are at page 8.

I've uploaded it here

The Larrabee discussion thread is pretty successful over there :lol:

Web shall see.

cant put much weight on tech demos, wait for real in game footage

and Crysis is pretty old now, who cares if some games in the future get better graphics

imo the graphics looked too cartonish anyway

I've uploaded it here

The Larrabee discussion thread is pretty successful over there :lol:

Baranga

Thanks. That link worked for me.

Also, the game code named Project Offset is a high fantasy game ... of course it's going to look cartoonish.

The Conduit looks better :lol: ok really..That looks really good, better than Crysis? I'm undecided about that but it's certainly on par with it.

Considering how poorly optimized CryEngine 2 was when it first released I hope they do really well with Project Offset. Cry Engine 2 is literally the only engine in the history of PC games (least back to 1990 when i started gaming...) that has been anywhere near as unoptimized as it was. Granted, Warhead improved it. But, still, it was just ridiculous. I do, however, play Crysis at Max fairly easily. Project Offset does look better. Been watching this game for a long time. The gameplay and graphics look phenomenal. Better than Crysis? We'll see.

For the record (saw someone else earlier in the thread), Killzone 2 doesn't even look as good as Crysis let alone Project Offset so whoever think that just leave. You are blind.

Considering how poorly optimized CryEngine 2 was when it first released I hope they do really well with Project Offset. Cry Engine 2 is literally the only engine in the history of PC games (least back to 1990 when i started gaming...) that has been anywhere near as unoptimized as it was. Granted, Warhead improved it. But, still, it was just ridiculous. I do, however, play Crysis at Max fairly easily. Project Offset does look better. Been watching this game for a long time. The gameplay and graphics look phenomenal. Better than Crysis? We'll see.

For the record (saw someone else earlier in the thread), Killzone 2 doesn't even look as good as Crysis let alone Project Offset so whoever think that just leave. You are blind.

Puckhog04

I've played the original version of Crysis and there's not THAT much difference. I'd be willing to bet it was just your hardware. I hope you're not one of those thousands of PC gamers that bashes a game's quality or optimization just because your first rig couldn't max it.