Prove to Hermits that you have skills in FPS games--UT3 Challenge

I'm surprised at how UT3 was rated under 9.0 at GS. It is their opinion and that is fair enough but this game IMO is so much better than Halo 3 in multi player that it isn't even funny.

If you consider yourself a hardcore gamer, then you'd give this game a good chance to see if it can grow on you.

I'm amazed at how weak some console gamers are for not wanting to play UT3. They cry about how fast the game is or that they don't know how they were killed.

So they quit playing the game in frustration and give up. Weak weak gamers they are.

This game is so awesome but you'll only realise how awesome it is when you get some skill.

So, for those of you who own a PS3, please give this game a go. When it comes out on 360, gamers, give it a go. If you have a capable PC, give it a go now. (Hint: It will take you much longer than 1 month to get skills in UT3 if you aren't familiar with the UT series or sucked hard at the Quake series)

If console gamers in general think they are hardcore gamers and are good at FPS, then prove it by mastering UT3. I doubt you guys could hack it though. You'll go back to your Halo's and COD4's and cry about UT3 on how much you suck at it and that it just isn't your kind of FPS.

For years hermits have claimed that console gamers sucked at FPS games due their inferior control systems and lack of speed and skill requirements.

Well console gamers, with UT3 you can prove to yourselves that you are just as good or better at FPS games. Afterall UT3 will be practically the same on both PS3 and 360 and you'll be able to most likely use Keyboard + Mouse on both.

Disclaimer: Halo 3 and COD4 are both awesome games that you should play as well. But don't limit yourself to the higher skill requirements of a game like UT3.

Ninja Edit: And yes I have my flame suit on :D

UT99 and Ut04 rocked my life 8).KillaHalo2o9

You obviously have real skills in FPS games, since you enjoyed those games ;)

Mind you, there will be a minority out there who despite being good at this game won't enjoy it. That is fine but they will be the minority. It is for that reason that I feel sorry for people who don't or didn't play the UT series, since I'm sure most of you would like it once you build a certain amount of skill up.

I remember when I first started FPS games and UT in particular and I was getting killed left right and center. I found it impossible at first but in time got good at it. Now it's the best thing since sliced bread :)

Hope you guys are able to get the same kind of experience that Hermits have had for years.

I wasn't surpsied that it got ratted lower then 9.0.. Its a pretty close carbon copy of 2004 with very few improvements.. This is not saying its a bad game, but it just goes to show you have to go alittle FURTHER then rehashs.sSubZerOo

2004? More like 99 which is a good thing

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]I wasn't surpsied that it got ratted lower then 9.0.. Its a pretty close carbon copy of 2004 with very few improvements.. This is not saying its a bad game, but it just goes to show you have to go alittle FURTHER then rehashs.DarkRecruit

2004? More like 99 which is a good thing

[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]UT99 and Ut04 rocked my life 8).wisdomWarrior

You obviously have real skills in FPS games, since you enjoyed those games ;)

Mind you, there will be a minority out there who despite being good at this game won't enjoy it. That is fine but they will be the minority. It is for that reason that I feel sorry for people who don't or didn't play the UT series, since I'm sure most of you would like it once you build a certain amount of skill up.

I remember when I first started FPS games and UT in particular and I was getting killed left right and center. I found it impossible at first but in time got good at it. Now it's the best thing since sliced bread :)

Hope you guys are able to get the same kind of experience that Hermits have had for years.

Yea it dose take sometime to get good at it, but when you do its loads of fun with the mods . :)

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]I wasn't surpsied that it got ratted lower then 9.0.. Its a pretty close carbon copy of 2004 with very few improvements.. This is not saying its a bad game, but it just goes to show you have to go alittle FURTHER then rehashs.FrozenLiquid

2004? More like 99 which is a good thing

They probably didn't realise. It is the easiest way to see if a person has a clue about what they are talking about when it comes to UT3.

If the reviewer says it's practically the same as UT2k4 then you know they are full of it.

The gameplay mechanics in UT3 are much more similar to UT99(GOTY) than the UT2k series.

[QUOTE="wisdomWarrior"]

[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]UT99 and Ut04 rocked my life 8).KillaHalo2o9

You obviously have real skills in FPS games, since you enjoyed those games ;)

Mind you, there will be a minority out there who despite being good at this game won't enjoy it. That is fine but they will be the minority. It is for that reason that I feel sorry for people who don't or didn't play the UT series, since I'm sure most of you would like it once you build a certain amount of skill up.

I remember when I first started FPS games and UT in particular and I was getting killed left right and center. I found it impossible at first but in time got good at it. Now it's the best thing since sliced bread :)

Hope you guys are able to get the same kind of experience that Hermits have had for years.

Yea it dose take sometime to get good at it, but when you do its loads of fun with the mods . :)

Yeah the mods are aweome. I remember playing the tactical ops mod in UT99 back in the day--geat fun. Ofcourse the Rocket Areana mods were fantastic fun as well :D

UT3 along with The Witxher were the 2 games that i was really expecting.I'm not that good but ok I can play but what matters most is to enjoy the game even if you suck at it.For example I still play contra and some side scrolling shooters even if I officiallly suck at them.The "I-am-not-good-therefore-I-hate(don't play)-the-game" way of thinking is for 15 year oldsHate_Squad

Yeah, that's a good attidude to have. That's how I like to play as well.

Loved all the incarnations of UT. But UT99 does have a special place in my heart, i remember buying a Voodoo 3 in order to play the game. After that gfx card however the game ran at a stable 60 (did you know that UT99 was orginal made to 3dfx). I have played countless houres of ctf on face or dm on phopos. Also remember how i got my dad to download and burn theTactical ops and Strike force mod at his work, so i could play them. Back then it was normal to only have a 56k modem internet. anyhow proberly getting UT3 maybe not at laungh but deff later.

Loved all the incarnations of UT. But UT99 does have a special place in my heart, i remember buying a Voodoo 3 in order to play the game. After that gfx card however the game ran at a stable 60 (did you know that UT99 was orginal made to 3dfx). I have played countless houres of ctf on face or dm on phopos. Also remember how i got my dad to download and burn theTactical ops and Strike force mod at his work, so i could play them. Back then it was normal to only have a 56k modem internet. anyhow proberly getting UT3 maybe not at laungh but deff later.

Maxsimus_basic

well ut99 was the best UT of all,i still have it installed on my pc, also the Tactical Ops comunity is still alive i also used to play this

consoles wont stand upto PCs in UT.

personally im 90% a console gamer- in the past i used to play PC quite a but consoles won me over as being a teen i couldnt keep apace which changing hardware.

first time i played UT was UT2k4 in a cybercafe & i was amazed at how fast paced it is- lightning fast & i wasnt used to the kb/m. but after a while i did get used to it. but one can sympthasize with newcomers who predictably get creamed - PC gaming is a lot different if ur not used to it. & new games on a console always take time to get into, just when ur pitted against hardcore players with vast amounts of experience- it can be disheartening. just today I was playing COD4 on live, i was getting 2 to 1 kill ratio on the Beta a couple of months ago. but ive hardly got a chance to play online since im in Uni (tho i have finished single player on veteran) anyway i wasnt getting creamed but i wasnt doing that well, i was a level 6 with only the basic equipment & perks vs level 30s & 40s- saying that tho the MAIN difference is EXPERIENCE, knowing the maps, familiarizing with popular routes, tactis, familiarizing with weapons + plain & simple hand-eye co-ordination practise & quick reaction practise.

a team turning up to a football game who's neverpractised & onlysome knowledge of it will get owned by a team who's practised for ages & know what their doing.

i can't stand the regular version of counter strike.

1. it's far too fast

2. once you get killed in less than a second you have to wait 10 minutes to play again

the only kind i can stand is a gungame variant where you actually respawn again.

i don't understand how people's reaction times coupled with thier accuracy are so great.

[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]UT99 and Ut04 rocked my life 8).wisdomWarrior

You obviously have real skills in FPS games, since you enjoyed those games ;)

Mind you, there will be a minority out there who despite being good at this game won't enjoy it. That is fine but they will be the minority. It is for that reason that I feel sorry for people who don't or didn't play the UT series, since I'm sure most of you would like it once you build a certain amount of skill up.

I remember when I first started FPS games and UT in particular and I was getting killed left right and center. I found it impossible at first but in time got good at it. Now it's the best thing since sliced bread :)

Hope you guys are able to get the same kind of experience that Hermits have had for years.

I don't believe UT3 takes skill. After all it is fast paced shooting which ultimately turns to mindless shooting. I like slower fps games that require some strategy.

i suck at unreal....I like the gameplay..but a typical match ends up like this:

other guy = 57 kills

other guy(2)= 45 kils

other guy(3) = 35 kills

Me= 17 kills

:cry:

Of course all PC gamers are better than console gamers at FPS because the PC is where the most elite skills are at right? This thread sounds like one of the most egotistical threads I've read in quite a long time. I'm positive there are many MANY console gamers who could destroy almost any PC gamer that went up against them just as vice versa. The aiming of a mouse is much easier to master than the aiming of an analogue stick. That is the only thing that makes a PC shooter easier than a consoel shooter. The movement on an anologue stick is leagues ahead of any 4 key or 8 key keyboard movement.

Both of these are facts however it is still far harder to perfect a game using a consoles control than a PC's control. Perhaps you should attempt to become to perfect yoru aiming on a console rather than a PC since it's so much harder than merely point and click with yoru mouse.

Of course all PC gamers are better than console gamers at FPS because the PC is where the most elite skills are at right? This thread sounds like one of the most egotistical threads I've read in quite a long time. I'm positive there are many MANY console gamers who could destroy almost any PC gamer that went up against them just as vice versa. The aiming of a mouse is much easier to master than the aiming of an analogue stick. That is the only thing that makes a PC shooter easier than a consoel shooter. The movement on an anologue stick is leagues ahead of any 4 key or 8 key keyboard movement.

Both of these are facts however it is still far harder to perfect a game using a consoles control than a PC's control. Perhaps you should attempt to become to perfect yoru aiming on a console rather than a PC since it's so much harder than merely point and click with yoru mouse.

BumFluff122

[QUOTE="wisdomWarrior"]

[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]UT99 and Ut04 rocked my life 8).Ilived

You obviously have real skills in FPS games, since you enjoyed those games ;)

Mind you, there will be a minority out there who despite being good at this game won't enjoy it. That is fine but they will be the minority. It is for that reason that I feel sorry for people who don't or didn't play the UT series, since I'm sure most of you would like it once you build a certain amount of skill up.

I remember when I first started FPS games and UT in particular and I was getting killed left right and center. I found it impossible at first but in time got good at it. Now it's the best thing since sliced bread :)

Hope you guys are able to get the same kind of experience that Hermits have had for years.

I don't believe UT3 takes skill. After all it is fast paced shooting which ultimately turns to mindless shooting. I like slower fps games that require some strategy.

I've heard some people say that before but I don't think it's true. In UT the skill is in a number of areas. There is a strategy to being able to collect the powerups before your opponents. It is all about being in the right position at the right time. And then to top it all off, you need to have good reflexes and aim to take your opponent down before they kill you.

The skill changes big time from CTF to TDM to Warfare. It all requires a different set of strategies and skills.

I don't buy into the 'because it's slower there is more strategy'. How is there more strategy by having the gameplay slower?

It's harder IMO if it is faster because you need to think much more quickly about where you are going and it's harder to anticipate where you opponent is going.

Of course all PC gamers are better than console gamers at FPS because the PC is where the most elite skills are at right? This thread sounds like one of the most egotistical threads I've read in quite a long time. I'm positive there are many MANY console gamers who could destroy almost any PC gamer that went up against them just as vice versa. The aiming of a mouse is much easier to master than the aiming of an analogue stick. That is the only thing that makes a PC shooter easier than a consoel shooter. The movement on an anologue stick is leagues ahead of any 4 key or 8 key keyboard movement.

Both of these are facts however it is still far harder to perfect a game using a consoles control than a PC's control. Perhaps you should attempt to become to perfect yoru aiming on a console rather than a PC since it's so much harder than merely point and click with yoru mouse.

BumFluff122

lol, stop making sense!

Yes the controls are much easier with KB+mouse but the gameplay of typical FPS is quite different on the PC. The games on PC are often a lot faster than console and have smaller hitboxes/collision cylinders, so it is harder to aim than console. Console games typically have auto aim and all sorts of aids to help keep the player from getting frustrated.

I do play console FPS as well. I do fine in them but I do readily admit that I'm not the best or anything like that. I do find it much harder to control/aim on a control pad than KB+Mouse. But that's the thing. Console gamers are restricted to this inferior control system that prevents them from truly excelling at FPS games. The games themselves are scaled down so that a person at least stands a chance on the console but this alters how you play a game drastically. It is that altering in how you create strategy etc that causes the typical console player to not be as good as a PC guy.

Get the console player to have a go on the PC and watch him get totally pwnd. The PC guy on console gets pwnd for awhile abut then adapts and does as well as the other good console players because they knew much more complicated strategies etc on the PC version. They just have to take things slower in order to adapt.

Ill try it soon, but Im not one to hate a game just because I suck at it. Ninja Gaiden is my favorite game of all time :).kevy619

hah, I was just playing NGS. Nearly up to chapter 8. Fun game :D

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

Of course all PC gamers are better than console gamers at FPS because the PC is where the most elite skills are at right? This thread sounds like one of the most egotistical threads I've read in quite a long time. I'm positive there are many MANY console gamers who could destroy almost any PC gamer that went up against them just as vice versa. The aiming of a mouse is much easier to master than the aiming of an analogue stick. That is the only thing that makes a PC shooter easier than a consoel shooter. The movement on an anologue stick is leagues ahead of any 4 key or 8 key keyboard movement.

Both of these are facts however it is still far harder to perfect a game using a consoles control than a PC's control. Perhaps you should attempt to become to perfect yoru aiming on a console rather than a PC since it's so much harder than merely point and click with yoru mouse.

wisdomWarrior

lol, stop making sense!

Yes the controls are much easier with KB+mouse but the gameplay of typical FPS is quite different on the PC. The games on PC are often a lot faster than console and have smaller hitboxes/collision cylinders, so it is harder to aim than console. Console games typically have auto aim and all sorts of aids to help keep the player from getting frustrated.

I do play console FPS as well. I do fine in them but I do readily admit that I'm not the best or anything like that. I do find it much harder to control/aim on a control pad than KB+Mouse. But that's the thing. Console gamers are restricted to this inferior control system that prevents them from truly excelling at FPS games. The games themselves are scaled down so that a person at least stands a chance on the console but this alters how you play a game drastically. It is that altering in how you create strategy etc that causes the typical console player to not be as good as a PC guy.

Get the console player to have a go on the PC and watch him get totally pwnd. The PC guy on console gets pwnd for awhile abut then adapts and does as well as the other good console players because they knew much more complicated strategies etc on the PC version. They just have to take things slower in order to adapt.

Thats not true, pc gamers get pwned playing console shooters. Console gamers just have to get used to the crappy movement that a keyboard provides. Some hermits think they are good at Halo 3, but forget that everybody is ranked and gets matched up against people of their own rank.

What makes Unreal hard to master? Its just a twitch based shooter.kevy619

Nah it's not. If you try playing duel (one vs one) you will realise that there is a heck of a lot more strategy than just being able to aim. You need to know which weapon to use at the right time. (you don't start with all weapons, you need to collect them throughout the map)

You need to know how to control a map and collect powerups. You don't get healed magically like in Halo3.

You need to be FAST at anticipating where your opponent is going.

You need to practice your aim but also learn how all the different weapons work.

Try playing against good PC gamers and you'll see how hard it is :)

I wanted to like the demo but I couldn't get into it, my main complaintswere that:

1. there dosn't seem to be any teamwork on an average gameteam deathmatch

2. almost all the guns feel the same to me since you use most of them in the same situation(close combat) and they all kill in 1 second or less

3. you kill and die too much. I think this takes away all the value of getting a good kill and puts it on getting a good streak which dosn't feel as fun, I think of it like stealing a diamond(other shooters) versus stealing bills one at a time(UT3)

4. the guns are too forgiving, i guess this is to compensate for the shear speed of the game but it stillseems less fun to me

5. I thought the game was repetitive because your kills don't have as much value so you get used to them and also you get used to all the wepons really fast since you can hold them all at once and they are practically everywhere

[QUOTE="wisdomWarrior"][QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

Of course all PC gamers are better than console gamers at FPS because the PC is where the most elite skills are at right? This thread sounds like one of the most egotistical threads I've read in quite a long time. I'm positive there are many MANY console gamers who could destroy almost any PC gamer that went up against them just as vice versa. The aiming of a mouse is much easier to master than the aiming of an analogue stick. That is the only thing that makes a PC shooter easier than a consoel shooter. The movement on an anologue stick is leagues ahead of any 4 key or 8 key keyboard movement.

Both of these are facts however it is still far harder to perfect a game using a consoles control than a PC's control. Perhaps you should attempt to become to perfect yoru aiming on a console rather than a PC since it's so much harder than merely point and click with yoru mouse.

kevy619

lol, stop making sense!

Yes the controls are much easier with KB+mouse but the gameplay of typical FPS is quite different on the PC. The games on PC are often a lot faster than console and have smaller hitboxes/collision cylinders, so it is harder to aim than console. Console games typically have auto aim and all sorts of aids to help keep the player from getting frustrated.

I do play console FPS as well. I do fine in them but I do readily admit that I'm not the best or anything like that. I do find it much harder to control/aim on a control pad than KB+Mouse. But that's the thing. Console gamers are restricted to this inferior control system that prevents them from truly excelling at FPS games. The games themselves are scaled down so that a person at least stands a chance on the console but this alters how you play a game drastically. It is that altering in how you create strategy etc that causes the typical console player to not be as good as a PC guy.

Get the console player to have a go on the PC and watch him get totally pwnd. The PC guy on console gets pwnd for awhile abut then adapts and does as well as the other good console players because they knew much more complicated strategies etc on the PC version. They just have to take things slower in order to adapt.

Thats not true, pc gamers get pwned playing console shooters. Console gamers just have to get used to the crappy movement that a keyboard provides. Some hermits think they are good at Halo 3, but forget that everybody is ranked and gets matched up against people of their own rank.

Really. Hmm. Well I'll let other hermits answer your comment more directly since I don't have a huge amount of experience with the Halo series. The game I play most on console that is a FPS is Resistance.

Not sure why you say that KB has crappy movement?--it's far better to use a kb+mouse combination than any control pad.

I wanted to like the demo but I couldn't get into it, my main complaintswere that:

1. there dosn't seem to be any teamwork on an average gameteam deathmatch

2. almost all the guns feel the same to me since you use most of them in the same situation(close combat) and they all kill in 1 second or less

3. you kill and die too much. I think this takes away all the value of getting a good kill and puts it on getting a good streak which dosn't feel as fun, I think of it like stealing a diamond(other shooters) versus stealing bills one at a time(UT3)

4. the guns are too forgiving, i guess this is to compensate for the shear speed of the game but it stillseems less fun to me

5. I thought the game was repetitive because your kills don't have as much value so you get used to them and also you get used to all the wepons really fast since you can hold them all at once and they are practically everywhere

ledzeppelin667

1. You'll see more teamwork in clan games. But it depends a lot on the server you are on. Also there might have been a lot of new players to the game who don't know how to help in a team. I think if you play in clan games then you'll see a heck of a lot of teamwork and people taking up specific roles such as defence, mid(middle of map),attack. Also note that those game types are not all of the ones available in the reatil game. They have vehicle CTF in there but didn't show ordinary CTF which IMO is a lot more fun and easier to have have teamwork in. In vCTF ppl were new and didn't even know how to use the vehicles lol so not much team work there. In TDM on public servers ppl are just stuffing around until they get used to the maps and being in clans.

2.Guns are radically different in UT3 and have very different purposes. The flak is great from up close. The rockets are useful in you are higher up and shooting down as you fall. The shock rifle is the ultimate in skill since it is a predictive weapon. Fire ball and shoot the ball. But try doing that while you are moving around. Try doing that when you jump of a ledge and fire ball and then combo it as you land. The weapons have incredible balance but you won't see that until you keep practicing. It takes time to get good at UT.

3.You will die a LOT more in UT than most other FPS. This is the nature of the game. It is also why the game has such great pick up and play for new ppl as well. So they can get some kills in there too. But as for the killing sprees and streaks. Yeah you can get those but you need to understand map control. You need to know where people respawn and which guns they are going to go after. You need to concentrate on staying alive and knowing where the heal powerups are. This is where the skill comes into it. Great UT players do this consistantly and consistantly pwn everyone on the servers.

4.The guns are forgiving in the sense that you should be able frag people relatively easily if you hit them. The skill comes from finding a way to prolong your life so that you can get killing sprees etc

5.Well the satisfaction shouldn't just come from getting a few kills. You want to get a lot of killing sprees, and multi kills etc. This is purely in DM. In the other game modes the strategy changes completely! In CTF, all of a sudden the number of kills don't matter so much. It comes down to how well you can assist your team in capturing the flag. So, can you play a defence role or an attacking role. maybe a mid role where you work to assist the attackers bring the flag back to the base and then assist the defenders at your base while your team mate captures the flag. Throw in the translocater and hover board and you have more skills to master yet again.

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

Of course all PC gamers are better than console gamers at FPS because the PC is where the most elite skills are at right? This thread sounds like one of the most egotistical threads I've read in quite a long time. I'm positive there are many MANY console gamers who could destroy almost any PC gamer that went up against them just as vice versa. The aiming of a mouse is much easier to master than the aiming of an analogue stick. That is the only thing that makes a PC shooter easier than a consoel shooter. The movement on an anologue stick is leagues ahead of any 4 key or 8 key keyboard movement.

Both of these are facts however it is still far harder to perfect a game using a consoles control than a PC's control. Perhaps you should attempt to become to perfect yoru aiming on a console rather than a PC since it's so much harder than merely point and click with yoru mouse.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

yeah well lets be honest:

the keyboard sucks compared to a controller

the mouse being so easy to aim is the saving grace of PC gaming - controllers for PC have never fully taken off largely because of the mouse (although RPG gamers will argue the merits of the keyboard for that genre)

Wow, you managed to encourage and flat out insult console gamers all at once. Good job showing just how arrogant you are. BTW, you want hard, play Ninja Gaiden on the hardest difficulty. A console game?:o NO WAISnowboarder99

lol, don't :cry: I'm not insulting anyone; it is up to you how you interpret my post. Anyway I was talking specifically about First Person Shooters. Ninja Gaiden Sigma is obviously not a FPS.

BTW--I'm not arrogant. If you look at it from an objective point of view you'll realise that there is merit to what I am saying. I mean, it's not like I'm saying that console gamers as people are inherrently worse at FPS games. However I am saying that console gamers as a result of the limitation of controls and aiming aids are therefore not as skilled as PC gamers. I'm not sure how anyone can argue with that.

Hermits know what I'm talking about. BTW I'm a console gamer myself, so don't take it so personally.

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

Of course all PC gamers are better than console gamers at FPS because the PC is where the most elite skills are at right? This thread sounds like one of the most egotistical threads I've read in quite a long time. I'm positive there are many MANY console gamers who could destroy almost any PC gamer that went up against them just as vice versa. The aiming of a mouse is much easier to master than the aiming of an analogue stick. That is the only thing that makes a PC shooter easier than a consoel shooter. The movement on an anologue stick is leagues ahead of any 4 key or 8 key keyboard movement.

Both of these are facts however it is still far harder to perfect a game using a consoles control than a PC's control. Perhaps you should attempt to become to perfect yoru aiming on a console rather than a PC since it's so much harder than merely point and click with yoru mouse.

CwlHeddwyn

yeah well lets be honest:

the keyboard sucks compared to a controller

the mouse being so easy to aim is the saving grace of PC gaming - controllers for PC have never fully taken off largely because of the mouse (although RPG gamers will argue the merits of the keyboard for that genre)

Well yeah it is the combination of both the kb+mouse that makes the PC games so much easier to control. KB sucks for certain types of games though--typically arcade type games.

UT always seemed way to fast for me to keep up so i might get PS3 version if it's alittle slowerRagashahs

It will apparently be 20% slower than the PC version, so that should be ok :)

TC....do you work for EPIC or something....GOD that was annoying.

im getting this game on the 360 later (my current PC cant handle it), but your dumb rant almost made me decide against it.

TC....do you work for EPIC or something....GOD that was annoying.

im getting this game on the 360 later (my current PC cant handle it), but your dumb rant almost made me decide against it.

axes03

lol, no I don't work for epic.

And WTF, you think I'm ranting? :?

I suppose I have been a bit of a dickhead in this thread. Sorry, I was bored lol.:|

Ok, the thing that is actually bugging me is the people who say something is crap but don't really give it a chance. They say a game is 8.5 but don't know why it really ought to be 9.5 if they actually put the time into it to get good.

It should be great on 360.