PS Wand will be a total knock off of Motion Plus and a failure

Teh Wii HD am arrive?

The PS Wand won't bring anything new to the table and will effectively make the PS3 a cell-powered Wii HD.

There is nothing that the PS Wand could do that would not be easily replicated on the Wii Motion Plus.

The technology is better, but motion controls aren't going to move forward the industry so it's pointless.

Teh Wii HD am arrive?

The PS Wand won't bring anything new to the table and will effectively make the PS3 a cell-powered Wii HD.

There is nothing that the PS Wand could do that would not be easily replicated on the Wii Motion Plus.

Ultimas_Blade

Don't know if you're serious, but this is the whole point to begin with.

It's a peripheral for the system, so widespread implementation is unlikely.

Wii Motion+ is also a peripheral, but it's giving Sheep something they've wanted since the inception of the Wii, which is 1:1 controls.

The Wii is NOT getting 1:1 controls; I don't know where the Hell you got that from. Adding extra gyroscopes is never going to fix the disaster that is the IR control. Also, the PS3's motion controls rely on the Eye, which can do most of what Natal can do.OrwellJames

Meh, I don't really follow the Wii's peripheral add-ons and capabilities all that closely.

I may be wrong, but then again, i'm not too fussed.

Try chilling out :|

The Wii is NOT getting 1:1 controls; I don't know where the Hell you got that from. Adding extra gyroscopes is never going to fix the disaster that is the IR control. Also, the PS3's motion controls rely on the Eye, which can do most of what Natal can do.OrwellJames

:lol: Not if Microsoft patents, lawyers, and BOATLOADS of money have anything to say about it :lol:

There is nothing that the PS Wand could do that would not be easily replicated on the Wii Motion Plus.

Ultimas_Blade

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

There is nothing that the PS Wand could do that would not be easily replicated on the Wii Motion Plus.

TheGrat1

:lol: Not if Microsoft patents, lawyers, and BOATLOADS of money have anything to say about it :lol:

Ultimas_Blade

Yes because Microsoft can patent visual recognition software (???). I should warn you I'm a law student and I am not afraid to bore you to death on this issue.

Teh Wii HD am arrive?

The PS Wand won't bring anything new to the table and will effectively make the PS3 a cell-powered Wii HD.

There is nothing that the PS Wand could do that would not be easily replicated on the Wii Motion Plus.

Ultimas_Blade

You know, I'd actually love that.

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

:lol: Not if Microsoft patents, lawyers, and BOATLOADS of money have anything to say about it :lol:

OrwellJames

Yes because Microsoft can patent visual recognition software (???). I should warn you I'm a law student and I am not afraid to bore you to death on this issue.

:lol: Have fun no one's stoping you. Money goes a very long way my friend ;)

i hope ur right... these gimmicks need to just die

Teh Wii HD am arrive?

The PS Wand won't bring anything new to the table and will effectively make the PS3 a cell-powered Wii HD.

There is nothing that the PS Wand could do that would not be easily replicated on the Wii Motion Plus.

Ultimas_Blade

Love the ignorant mob mentality!

Hopefully the PS Wand improves further on the PS3, a 1:1 sword fighting game (Star Wars anyone?) on a system with that much power would be great.

From what I've gathered listening to the press conference, the Sony motion controller seems to be a sort of dumbed down version of Natal, where the camera senses the tracking ball (I assume it emits an IR), rather than your entire body. So it's not so much a wii ripoff (Wii has the IR light emitted from the sensor bar and the wiimote itself is the sensor).

Do you have any idea what you are talking about?

GrumpyWalrus

Hell, do you? Do be ever so serious, becauseit's serious business onthe internet :|

It's just a half-serious joke thread, relax.

Can no one use their eyes? Ps Ball-on-a-stick thing is exactly like wii motion plus. I don't see how you guys don't see that WiiM+ isn't 1:1. How the data is collected doesn't matter but how it is played does.

Playing oblivion with the wands anyone? ...

Yes because Microsoft can patent visual recognition software (???). I should warn you I'm a law student and I am not afraid to bore you to death on this issue.

Love the ignorant mob mentality!

Hopefully the PS Wand improves further on the PS3, a 1:1 sword fighting game (Star Wars anyone?) on a system with that much power would be great.

i wouldnt use any of the 3 but the ps wand looks like it works the bestbayareahusla

Don't think this is done on the wii

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPENA1Bpm68

Or this,the linkis of the demo at E3, does the wii motion plus detect and move you in a 3d space? If there is a wii game that allows you as a gamer to move around in a 3d space with just the movement of the num chuck please post a video link. Think people are missing the point of the ps3 wand when its being used with the ps3 camera. I'm pretty sure the dual shock 3 as of right now is pretty much what wii has, but with the inclusion of the ps3 camera it opens up alot of doors in what can be done with in a game. The ps3 wand has alot more featuresthan just static player movement when paired with the ps3 camera.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th8_zKa0DKk

Nothing new to the table? Nothing like a full-motion camera and much higher quality visuals along with much greater physics calculating abilities?

If this is integrated properly and used well, it could easily destroy what the Wii has to offer.

[QUOTE="OrwellJames"]The Wii is NOT getting 1:1 controls; I don't know where the Hell you got that from. Adding extra gyroscopes is never going to fix the disaster that is the IR control. Also, the PS3's motion controls rely on the Eye, which can do most of what Natal can do.Ultimas_Blade

:lol: Not if Microsoft patents, lawyers, and BOATLOADS of money have anything to say about it :lol:

I think it looks a lot better that the Wiimote buuut its a blatebt copy of Nintendo and can you even walk or move your character with the Sonywand? Looks fun for minigames...like the Wii...hmmMickeyTheNinja

If this is integrated properly and used well, it could easily destroy what the Wii has to offer.foxhound_fox

I don't really see all these 'great games' for the PS3 wand actually happening. If a company wanted to make a motion game, they'd use the Wii, not the product with smaller install base, and an even smaller install base that that for the specific product they want to use.Tylendal

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]If this is integrated properly and used well, it could easily destroy what the Wii has to offer.savebattery

But it won't be, and you know it. It's much too far into the PS3's lifespan to bring about something that fundamentally changes it. Nobody is going to make games for it until it has a large enough install base to justify alienating the existing PS3 base, and nobody is going to buy it until there are enough games. This is the e-Reader or SEGA CD all over again. Announcing new hardware that the user must purchase is not the way to increase the install base. This is a revolution, while the Wii MotionPlus is simply and EVOLUTION of what the Wii already does.savebattery

firstly wm+ is out today 1 point

wand is a proto type release some day...

wm+ is has been played and tested by people who do not work for sony 1 point

the wand has been shown at e3 where no one got to test it just some guy who could faked the whole thing

analog stick? 1 point wii

no analog stick

i mean it could still be good though but i doubt man people will want to buy a whole new set of controllers

oh thought of another one

wii controller will be one thing so every thing is standard

wand is going to have to compete with normal controller until the install base grows no devs are gonna make anything for it

i think all it comes down to software, i think its pretty absurd to argue that one technology is better than the other, although from the impressions from the e3 demonstration the sony solution does seem more acurate than the wii M+ demonstration but that could be due to various reasons.

Really all it comes down to is software, and the wii has yet to prove to be truly innovative, i wowuld love to be proven wrong so i can dust off my wii, but when zelda can't provide a fruitful experience what can?

[QUOTE="Tylendal"]I don't really see all these 'great games' for the PS3 wand actually happening. If a company wanted to make a motion game, they'd use the Wii, not the product with smaller install base, and an even smaller install base that that for the specific product they want to use.Episode_Eve

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]If this is integrated properly and used well, it could easily destroy what the Wii has to offer.savebattery

firstly wm+ is out today 1 point

wand is a proto type release some day...

wm+ is has been played and tested by people who do not work for sony 1 point

the wand has been shown at e3 where no one got to test it just some guy who could faked the whole thing

analog stick? 1 point wii

no analog stick

i mean it could still be good though but i doubt man people will want to buy a whole new set of controllers

oh thought of another one

wii controller will be one thing so every thing is standard

wand is going to have to compete with normal controller until the install base grows no devs are gonna make anything for it

07pops07

Exactly. I'm not gonna sit here and say that sony's ball-on-a-stick is doomed from the beginning, but that's a whole lot of "if's". Sony has a hell of a up-hill battle ahead of them if they want this thing to be developed by any third parties at all or be anything besides an eye-toy like distraction.

The technology is better, but motion controls aren't going to move forward the industry so it's pointless.

hakanakumono

Why not? Sticking with the dual analogue controller and simply upgrading console's power won't do anything either. Motion controls are the next step towards the big goal of gaming - virtual reality.

[QUOTE="MickeyTheNinja"]I think it looks a lot better that the Wiimote buuut its a blatebt copy of Nintendo and can you even walk or move your character with the Sonywand? Looks fun for minigames...like the Wii...hmmEpisode_Eve

Its not going to fundamentally change anything. The point is to add more options for developers. The Wii has already proven that not all game types allow for motion controls. Sony giving developers the option to integrate it into their games, and giving them the technology to do it, will be a futher enhancment to the platform.

And what's stopping Wii developers from coming over to the PS3 and saying, "hey, we know how to work with motion controls, lets try our ideas here as well."

If Sony can't integrate motion controls now, then Nintendo won't be able to make this new Vitality Censor work. And wouldn't the balance board have flopped as well?

Having motion controls on the PS3 gives developers far more working room for their games. They are not limited by the Wii's hardware anymore. They will be able to come up with some amazing concepts, and not be worried about sacrificing other aspects to make up for the lack of hardware power.

foxhound_fox

Introducing new control methods midway through a console's lifespan isn't smart. There's no incentive to develop for it, because doing so alienates the existing base of users (which is already smaller than those of its competitors). Why would anyone develop motion games for PS3 when the Wii has twice the userbase? Hell, even more than twice the userbase, because the motion controls are going to start out with a userbase of zero.

Natal and this new Wand have some cool features, but they should have waited until next generation.

[QUOTE="savebattery"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]If this is integrated properly and used well, it could easily destroy what the Wii has to offer.LOXO7

Go back and purchase it? What do you mean, The PS3? You think sony has to make the system adapt to the motion control, by creating a whole new PS3? Yeah if so, it would be hard. for sony to repeat their same customers. But that's too ridiculous to think about. The PS3 already recongnizes* motion. Did we get a brief glimps of the new PS3 in the tech demo at e3 this year?!

[QUOTE="OrwellJames"]

The Wii is NOT getting 1:1 controls; I don't know where the Hell you got that from. Adding extra gyroscopes is never going to fix the disaster that is the IR control. Also, the PS3's motion controls rely on the Eye, which can do most of what Natal can do.Ultimas_Blade

:lol: Not if Microsoft patents, lawyers, and BOATLOADS of money have anything to say about it :lol:

Yes, because Microsoft will argue "we thought of the idea first! they just got it out before us!"

Not to mention that PS Eye is already out and has been used in games, and the wand thing is already in the hands of devs. Epic fail on your part my friend.

[QUOTE="LOXO7"]

[QUOTE="savebattery"] But it won't be, and you know it. It's much too far into the PS3's lifespan to bring about something that fundamentally changes it. Nobody is going to make games for it until it has a large enough install base to justify alienating the existing PS3 base, and nobody is going to buy it until there are enough games. This is the e-Reader or SEGA CD all over again. Announcing new hardware that the user must purchase is not the way to increase the install base. This is a revolution, while the Wii MotionPlus is simply and EVOLUTION of what the Wii already does.savebattery