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#1 goatblah
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OMG I've just come back from using the PS3 browser, I cannot belive people are using this as a great feature over the xbox, Its complete rubbish.

I have never seen something so slow and buggy, if you manage to load the page without it crashing and/or wasting away while you wait, you have to contend with awkward controls and incompatable sites! Firefox FTW!

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#2 Irick_cb
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Firefox is Slow.

Switch to something based on Webkit.

Also, please graduate from the year 2006.

This point isn't even used anymore.

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#3 Next-Gen-Tec
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Firefox FTW indeed.
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#4 goatblah
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Firefox is Slow.

Switch to something based on Webkit.

Also, please graduate from the year 2006.

This point isn't even used anymore.

Irick_cb

LOL, how is firefox slow? I bet you firefox 3.5 is faster then ALL!

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#5 razgriz_101
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its managing to keep me going for now, only problem is really bebo doesnt display and i cant post comments either :'(

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#6 micky4889
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I always thought the PS3 browser was a very underrated feature,i can load a typical page in about 3 seconds, i can stream gametrailer, youtube and if you're from the US you can even watch free TV shows and movies on hulu, you can also download free themes, videos, music ect straight to your PS3 HDD and you can also check your email,facebook,twitter,bebo,myspace Why should this count as a negative against the PS3 ? It is a little buggy, i'll give you that but its no where near as bad as you make it sound plus it's always being improved upon through firmware updates.
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#7 Irick_cb
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[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

Firefox is Slow.

Switch to something based on Webkit.

Also, please graduate from the year 2006.

This point isn't even used anymore.

goatblah

LOL, how is firefox slow? I bet you firefox 3.5 is faster then ALL!

It's a good benchmark, but it is only for dynamic elements.

Keep in mind those chrome scores are my own experimental builds, and are not indicative of chrome. (chrome is usually faster)

That 0 score was from an iPod :P

It stopped loading the javascript before the test was through.

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#8 CreepyBacon
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It is the worst browser I've used. So yeah, useless really.

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#9 goatblah
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I always thought the PS3 browser was a very underrated feature,i can load a typical page in about 3 seconds, i can stream gametrailer, youtube and if you're from the US you can even watch free TV shows and movies on hulu, you can also download free themes, videos, music ect straight to your PS3 HDD and you can also check your email,facebook,twitter,bebo,myspace Why should this count as a negative against the PS3 ? It is a little buggy, i'll give you that but its no where near as bad as you make it sound plus it's always being improved upon through firmware updates.micky4889

I really hope it is mate, im thinking of getting a ps3 and browsing on the tv would be cool. For the time I have used it though it has been very frustrating, especially when they could have just used a popular browser instead!

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#10 double_heist
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I use Safari as a default and Firefox if I'm desperate. Speaking of PS3 browser, is it just me or did interface change after E3? Like the new clicky sounds.
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#11 goatblah
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Oh ok nice one, I was wrong yet again!!! :)

I'm used to getting pwnd

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#12 jonnyt61
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It works fine for me. I've used it for Gamespot, N4G Allakhazam, YouTube and many other sites without any problems. It's not OMG WOAH or anything, but it's certainly functional, and it is definitely a feature over 360. If you're having so many problems, I'd wonder what kind of sites you're trying to use...
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#13 megapikachu101
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the loading isn't that bad its about 5 secs for me even with my crap internet

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#14 Irick_cb
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I really hope it is mate, im thinking of getting a ps3 and browsing on the tv would be cool. For the time I have used it though it has been very frustrating, especially when they could have just used a popular browser instead!

goatblah

It would have been very hard to get a "popular browser" due to licensing and the possibility of reveilling inner workings of the PS3 through the source code (ie, if they went with Gecko or Webkit engines, which are Open Source but require any changes to the code be made public.)

They did give us flash 9 though, which is unheard of on any other console.

The most recent version the Wii has is 7 i think.

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#15 goatblah
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It works fine for me. I've used it for Gamespot, N4G Allakhazam, YouTube and many other sites without any problems. It's not OMG WOAH or anything, but it's certainly functional, and it is definitely a feature over 360. If you're having so many problems, I'd wonder what kind of sites you're trying to use...jonnyt61

If your implying that all I have tried to use the ps3 browser for is pr0n, I would seriously think you are watching my every move!

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#16 FILIPINOMAZTER
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[QUOTE="goatblah"]

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

Firefox is Slow.

Switch to something based on Webkit.

Also, please graduate from the year 2006.

This point isn't even used anymore.

Irick_cb

LOL, how is firefox slow? I bet you firefox 3.5 is faster then ALL!

It's a good benchmark, but it is only for dynamic elements.

Keep in mind those chrome scores are my own experimental builds, and are not indicative of chrome. (chrome is usually faster)

That 0 score was from an iPod :P

It stopped loading the javascript before the test was through.

wheres i,e and yes firefox is a very good browser i never had any problems with it
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#17 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="goatblah"]

I really hope it is mate, im thinking of getting a ps3 and browsing on the tv would be cool. For the time I have used it though it has been very frustrating, especially when they could have just used a popular browser instead!

Irick_cb

It would have been very hard to get a "popular browser" due to licensing and the possibility of reveilling inner workings of the PS3 through the source code (ie, if they went with Gecko or Webkit engines, which are Open Source but require any changes to the code be made public.)

They did give us flash 9 though, which is unheard of on any other console.

The most recent version the Wii has is 7 i think.

Firefox might have worked cause of the whole linux and the fact theres versions of yellowdog that do support Cell and most likely will come with Firefox.Wouldnt be too tough a job in some aspects and i dont see how much of it would actually change :/ since the OS design and the input method.

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#18 goatblah
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[QUOTE="goatblah"]

I really hope it is mate, im thinking of getting a ps3 and browsing on the tv would be cool. For the time I have used it though it has been very frustrating, especially when they could have just used a popular browser instead!

Irick_cb

It would have been very hard to get a "popular browser" due to licensing and the possibility of reveilling inner workings of the PS3 through the source code (ie, if they went with Gecko or Webkit engines, which are Open Source but require any changes to the code be made public.)

They did give us flash 9 though, which is unheard of on any other console.

The most recent version the Wii has is 7 i think.

Oh god please, dont mention the wii browser. On a 50" tv you can actually see the pixels of every word not to mention everything looks magnified 10x. Infact the Wii on a 50" screen looks really bad whatever your doing!

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#19 Irick_cb
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wheres i,e and yes firefox is a very good browser i never had any problems with itFILIPINOMAZTER

I didn't bother to personally test IE.

It sucks.

Hard.

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#20 Tyrant156
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Programers were able to take advantage of the browser too, by creating media server programs and other aps for the PS3.

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#21 goatblah
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[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

[QUOTE="goatblah"]

I really hope it is mate, im thinking of getting a ps3 and browsing on the tv would be cool. For the time I have used it though it has been very frustrating, especially when they could have just used a popular browser instead!

razgriz_101

It would have been very hard to get a "popular browser" due to licensing and the possibility of reveilling inner workings of the PS3 through the source code (ie, if they went with Gecko or Webkit engines, which are Open Source but require any changes to the code be made public.)

They did give us flash 9 though, which is unheard of on any other console.

The most recent version the Wii has is 7 i think.

Firefox might have worked cause of the whole linux and the fact theres versions of yellowdog that do support Cell and most likely will come with Firefox.Wouldnt be too tough a job in some aspects and i dont see how much of it would actually change :/ since the OS design and the input method.

Well converting an open source program for use with a specific system would be easier then creating one from scratch however you look at it. I think the ps3 has some memory issues though as streaming large HD results in a very jerky experience, even when you have completed the streaming before watching it.

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#22 goatblah
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[QUOTE="FILIPINOMAZTER"]wheres i,e and yes firefox is a very good browser i never had any problems with itIrick_cb

I didn't bother to personally test IE.

It sucks.

Hard.

No its great if you love really bad security and what other browser can take you on a journey of nostalgia as you remember all those wonderfull days on a dial up modem.

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#23 Stoner-Pimp
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[QUOTE="goatblah"]

OMG I've just come back from using the PS3 browser, I cannot belive people are using this as a great feature over the xbox, Its complete rubbish.

I have never seen something so slow and buggy, if you manage to load the page without it crashing and/or wasting away while you wait, you have to contend with awkward controls and incompatable sites! Firefox FTW!

I use the PS3 browser as my main (i no longer have my PC anymore) and disagree.

It's never run slow for me infact it runs pretty quick most of the time (and that's only on a 2mb connection), as for the crashing, i've had the browser lock up on me once in the past 2 weeks BUT i do agree it does lockup sometimes. As for the controls, i use my keyboard and mouse for it and for the most part it's easy to use (you just have to get used to the F keys being for favourites etc) and using the controller is aCtully very very easy so i disagree with the awkward controls.

There are some sites that don't work BUT the browser works on all the sites i use and the main ones that people use to compair it to the 360 (twitter, facebook, myspace etc), people haven't said the PS3 browser is a great feature over the xbox in years, most say that the fact xbox is getting twitter/facebook isn't as big a plus as some make out as the PS3 has had access to these for years due to the browser.

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#24 double_heist
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[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

[QUOTE="FILIPINOMAZTER"]wheres i,e and yes firefox is a very good browser i never had any problems with itgoatblah

I didn't bother to personally test IE.

It sucks.

Hard.

No its great if you love really bad security and what other browser can take you on a journey of nostalgia as you remember all those wonderfull days on a dial up modem.

It's great for getting viruses and malware. :D
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#25 Irick_cb
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

Firefox might have worked cause of the whole linux and the fact theres versions of yellowdog that do support Cell and most likely will come with Firefox.Wouldnt be too tough a job in some aspects and i dont see how much of it would actually change :/ since the OS design and the input method.

goatblah

Well converting an open source program for use with a specific system would be easier then creating one from scratch however you look at it. I think the ps3 has some memory issues though as streaming large HD results in a very jerky experience, even when you have completed the streaming before watching it.

It's not that it would be hard to port it, it is that it would give people clues as to the workings of the PS3 OS if the source was made public, which it would have to if they used Webkit or Gecko (Safari and Firefox's HTML rendering engines) and allow for possibly quick cracking of the PS3's security mesures and then: Hello piracy.

The linux OS can't play PS3 games, or even use the GPU at the moment, so sony doesn't mind people looking at that.

And the Browser used in the PS3 isn't really built from scratch, it is a Netfront browser, mainly used in phones and low power, low screenspace devices (also on the PSP)

Link

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#26 -Pred-Alien-
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Sure as heck better than nothing. Also, the PS3s Linux feature doesnt get talked about enough
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#27 Irick_cb
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Sure as heck better than nothing. Also, the PS3s Linux feature doesnt get talked about enough-Pred-Alien-

And it won't until they port Mensa 3D fully to the SPEs or gen RSX access.

It's just not zippy enough as is.

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#28 heretrix
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This point isn't even used anymore.

Irick_cb

Sadly, you're wrong.

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#29 heretrix
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Sure as heck better than nothing. Also, the PS3s Linux feature doesnt get talked about enough-Pred-Alien-
It's because nobody uses it.

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#30 Irick_cb
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[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]Sure as heck better than nothing. Also, the PS3s Linux feature doesnt get talked about enoughheretrix

It's because nobody uses it.

A decent amount of people use it.

Here

More then the Wii, in any case.

The Wii's browser really isn't that bad, it's just not free.

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#31 Jfisch93
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I like it, it's not going to be perfect. It's a CONSOLE, not a computer.

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#32 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]Sure as heck better than nothing. Also, the PS3s Linux feature doesnt get talked about enoughIrick_cb

It's because nobody uses it.

A decent amount of people use it.

Here

More then the Wii, in any case.

The Wii's browser really isn't that bad, it's just not free.

I wasn't talking about the browser. I was talking about Linux on the PS3.

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[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]Sure as heck better than nothing. Also, the PS3s Linux feature doesnt get talked about enoughIrick_cb

And it won't until they port Mensa 3D fully to the SPEs or gen RSX access.

It's just not zippy enough as is.

Yeah i bought my PS3 too late to use the RSX exploit:(
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#34 Irick_cb
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I wasn't talking about the browser. I was talking about Linux on the PS3.

heretrix

Actualy, PS3 linux is used quite a bit in a relative way.

it is a big enough platform for several of the big name linux OSes to support. YDL the best IMO, then you can get Fedora Core and *shiver* Ubuntu.

There are probably more but... i stick with YDL, so i could not tell you.

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#35 gamefan274
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OMG I've just come back from using the PS3 browser, I cannot belive people are using this as a great feature over the xbox, Its complete rubbish.

I have never seen something so slow and buggy, if you manage to load the page without it crashing and/or wasting away while you wait, you have to contend with awkward controls and incompatable sites! Firefox FTW!

goatblah
WTH are you talking about!? The browser is great. In my house someone is always on the computer so I use my PS3 browser. Hell I'm using it right now! It freezes every once in a while but it is very underrated. Right now I'm on N4G, 1up, and gamespot yelling at you for saying the browser is crap.
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#36 Chris_Williams
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I like it, it's not going to be perfect. It's a CONSOLE, not a computer.

Jfisch93
bingo..and its a BROWSER..just to check up on stuff our finding cheats or strategies.that's what i use it for, it works great for me
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#37 EmperorSupreme
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[QUOTE="Jfisch93"]

I like it, it's not going to be perfect. It's a CONSOLE, not a computer.

Chris_Williams
bingo..and its a BROWSER..just to check up on stuff our finding cheats or strategies.that's what i use it for, it works great for me

That's what I like to use it for too. it's also great for youtube especially when you have friends over. It's nice to have it on the TV
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#38 deleterguy
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I always use IE, it's fast andthere's nothing wrong with it, dunno about you guys..

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Safari!!!!
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#40 urdead18
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Lol, it's not that bad.

I only use it for downloading PS3 themes(as many as I want for free, custom made by people) and going on Youtube.

It's fine for those, it's not that slow but it is pretty incompatible.

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#41 chaoz-king
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Oh god I can't bare the PS3 browser. Why anyone would want to look something up on their system over a PC.

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#42 kingdre
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I don't know why anyone would want to use their PS3 as a browser anyway.

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[QUOTE="goatblah"]

OMG I've just come back from using the PS3 browser, I cannot belive people are using this as a great feature over the xbox, Its complete rubbish.

I have never seen something so slow and buggy, if you manage to load the page without it crashing and/or wasting away while you wait, you have to contend with awkward controls and incompatable sites! Firefox FTW!

It's fine for me, get your self a decent broadband provider or instal linux. It's fine for me to check the sport and check up on 360 and ps3 rumors.
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#44 Nonstop-Madness
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I always use my PS3 browser and its pretty good. Its not even slow but it does freeze up sometimes. I even post on these forums with my PS3 sometimes.
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#45 ktrotter11
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google chrome is actually faster, and the google os will pwn all os's when it comes to speed
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#46 goatblah
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I don't know why anyone would want to use their PS3 as a browser anyway.

kingdre

for example im in my front room now with 6 ppl who wanna watch some clips from youtube, unless I run a cable from my room to my TV it means everyone huddeled round my 19" screen with nowhere to sit! Plus watching movie trailers, AVI files, films etc etc. Untill they give us wireless screen access the tv browser will be handy.

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#47 makincopies
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its a good browser if you dont have a computer
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#48 LordDhampire
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the ps3 browser is much better then when it launched it works great now....I use it for ...raunchy sites that would give adware to my pc >.>

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#49 Fizzman
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Im pretty sure everyone in the world realizes the PSN browers is horrible.

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#50 -Snooze-
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[QUOTE="double_heist"][QUOTE="goatblah"]

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

I didn't bother to personally test IE.

It sucks.

Hard.

No its great if you love really bad security and what other browser can take you on a journey of nostalgia as you remember all those wonderfull days on a dial up modem.

It's great for getting viruses and malware. :D

I'm using IE. the newest version is pretty fast from my experiance. Im using it over Firefox anyways. Safari is too pretty for me to use ...