PS3 can only run Rage at 20-30fps

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#51 fun-da-mental
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[QUOTE="Sollet"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

This would be a funny ownage if true! :P

Let´s wait for the final version for the proper comparations.

PAL360

The article 1 year old lol.

Thats why i said `if true` :P

It was already confirmed both versions will be equal :)

Both version will be 60 FPS, here is the confirmation from Carmack himself:

http://www.beyond3d.com/content/news/751

BTW, if we are using old news to claim ownage than I should point out that Carmack also said that PS3 version may end up looking better due to the advantage of storing less compressed textures in blue ray.

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#52 fun-da-mental
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[QUOTE="fun-da-mental"]

As of Jun 22, 2010, both version are running at 60 FPS according to Carmack:

http://www.beyond3d.com/content/news/751

markinthedark

in that article it says...

"For Rage, we have to expend more effort on the PS3 to maintain 60 hz"

so while the good news is while they did manage to get 60fps... they probably had to scale back the graphics

By "more work" they meant making use of SPUs in PS3. There is a powerpoint presentation on Beyond3d given by one of the Id's lead programmer explaining how the challenges they face achieving the performance out of these asymmetrical cell processor.

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#53 Ryan_Som
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[QUOTE="fun-da-mental"]

As of Jun 22, 2010, both version are running at 60 FPS according to Carmack:

http://www.beyond3d.com/content/news/751

markinthedark

in that article it says...

"For Rage, we have to expend more effort on the PS3 to maintain 60 hz"

so while the good news is while they did manage to get 60fps... they probably had to scale back the graphics

Yeah, no. You don't know how PR speak works? If they had to scale back they would've said something vague like "minor adjustments had to be made to maintain 60Hz." Having to "expend more effort on" sounds like a nice way of saying that the architecture is a pain in the ass to program for.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

BTW carmack confirmed the PS3 is more powerful.

Then, Carmack talked about developing for consoles for the first time with Rage. He feels that the PS3 has more processing power but that the 360 is easier to program for.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6215286.html

KittenWishes

Posted Aug 14, 2009

...Which is an entire month AFTER the article the TC posted. August 2009 is AFTER July 2009. ;)

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#54 II_Seraphim_II
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Lol @ other poster on the other rage thread saying PS3 version will be light years ahead of 360 version.

Another multiplat is superior on 360....what a surprise

Modern_Unit
"while the PS3 only runs the game at around 20-30fps at this stage in development. "
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#55 PAL360
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="Sollet"] The article 1 year old lol.fun-da-mental

Thats why i said `if true` :P

It was already confirmed both versions will be equal :)

Both version will be 60 FPS, here is the confirmation from Carmack himself:

http://www.beyond3d.com/content/news/751

BTW, if we are using old news to claim ownage than I should point out that Carmack also said that PS3 version may end up looking better due to the advantage of storing less compressed textures in blue ray.

You didnt read the post you quoted, did you? :roll:

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#56 donalbane
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Is Rage going to be in 3D by any chance? If so, that would explain a lot.[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

[QUOTE="moti-123"]

This article you posted is from Friday, 31 Jul 2009 09:38

http://www.gamezine.co.uk/news/games/r/rage/carmack-rage-faster-on-xbox-360-and-pc-$1315438.htm


This year, Id said that Rage is running better on the PS3


id demos Rage on 360, promises smooth gaming on PS3 - 9:40 AM on 05.04.2010

http://www.destructoid.com/id-demos-rage-on-360-promises-smooth-gaming-on-ps3-172760.phtml

At a Bethesda Softworks press event last month, id Software brought out the latest build of its upcoming first-person shooter, Rage. Previously shown only running on a PC, the developer pulled out its Xbox 360 kits to demonstrate the game.

But what of the PlayStation 3? id Software's Tim Willits says not to worry, that the engine that powers Rage, idTech 5, is "true cross-platform technology."

"We demoed on the 360 here today," he explained, "but our program director actually said 'Do you want to take the PS3? I think it's actually running better.'"


hrmm, alright that quote is a little hard to refute....

When you consider how bugs work, not necessarily. It's possible the 360 version had a bug that the PS3 didn't at that time. It may have the superior framerate, but depending on the nature of bugs, it could have had a game-breaker that made the more stable, possibly lower framerate PS3 version superior on that particular day. Not saying this is the case, but it is certainly possible.
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#57 Human-after-all
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PS3 is not as powerful as the 360, obviously. *ducks for cover*
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#58 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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http://www.gamezine.co.uk/news/games/r/rage/carmack-rage-faster-on-xbox-360-and-pc-$1315438.htm

"In the latest Edge magazine, programming wizard John Carmack states that the Xbox 360 version of RAGE just about matches the 60fps framerate of the PC version, while the PS3 only runs the game at around 20-30fps at this stage in development. "

markinthedark

Wow. If there was an award for Most Rabid Fanboy, you would win it with this thread. Not only is that comment from a year ago, it clearly says "at this stage in development".

Yet somehow you completely missed the most recent news from E3 AND misread the comment so it says the PS3 is totally incapable of running the game at a higher framerate.

Wow...

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#59 delta3074
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crikey, that articles so old it's actually irrelevent,probably the 360 will have a slighly more stable framerate, but it won't be noticeable
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#60 Pug-Nasty
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You're suspiciously missing the title of the article.

"Carmack confident RAGE will be 60fps on all platforms"

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#61 Hahadouken
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This game is going to be a gigantic flop anyway. All graphics, no gameplay, it's the id Software way since Doom 2.
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#62 markinthedark
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You're suspiciously missing the title of the article.

"Carmack confident RAGE will be 60fps on all platforms"

Pug-Nasty

lol this thread is over someone already posted its running at 60fps on ps3 now. frankie says relax

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#63 bryn8150
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some other guy on my post said that rage would run BETTER on PS3.

i just shrugged it off and laughed because if this was so they would have demoed it on the PS3 at E3 2010 instead of the purportedly inferior xbox 360 now wouldnt they?

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#64 Ryan_Som
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some other guy on my post said that rage would run BETTER on PS3.

i just shrugged it off and laughed because if this was so they would have demoed it on the PS3 at E3 2010 instead of the purportedly inferior xbox 360 now wouldnt they?

bryn8150

Not necessarily. Crytek has stated that they've only been showing the 360 version of Crysis 2 because it's better to wow people "from the bottom up." ;)

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#65 agff9
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TC got owned.
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#66 PAL360
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[QUOTE="bryn8150"]

some other guy on my post said that rage would run BETTER on PS3.

i just shrugged it off and laughed because if this was so they would have demoed it on the PS3 at E3 2010 instead of the purportedly inferior xbox 360 now wouldnt they?

Ryan_Som

Not necessarily. Crytek has stated that they've only been showing the 360 version of Crysis 2 because it's better to wow people "from the bottom up." ;)

They were talking about console vs PC versions. Dont expect PS3 version to look better than what you saw running on 360 this E3. You would be disappointed :P

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#67 chaplainDMK
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Its from june 2009, and the game sucks anyways from the looks of it...

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Carmack talks RAGE on PS3/360

"Carmack said that the uncompressed build of Rage encompasses a terrabyte of data, and that id will need to use a "different type of compression" to fit the game on two dual-layer Xbox 360 DVDs.

When asked whether the difference will be significant, Carmack noted that "hero shots" should look similar, but that Xbox 360 players might find a rock that is more blurry when exploring the periphery of Rage's world.

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According to Carmack, the royalty fees to include a third disc in the Xbox 360 version would be so high that it simply isn't a feasible solution, with the programmer hoping for Microsoft to make a concession. He stressed that the issue is merely a storage problem and has nothing to do with the power of the Xbox 360 hardware, while adding that the PlayStation 3's Blu-ray format is Sony's one leg up on the competition."

*Quoted myself from older thread. :P

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#69 zero_snake99
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TC, fanboys, and illiterates should be embarrassed.

Number 1 reason why SWs is a horrible place ^^

[QUOTE="gago-gago"]

This is bad news, back then. I just watched the GS stage show and the creative director say it will run 60fps on all systems. I'm still getting it on the 360 because of the controllers.

markinthedark

guy deleted the article but it said "For Rage, we have to expend more effort on the PS3 to maintain 60 hz "

translation: they had to scale back the graphics for 60fps

Really now? Nice translation....

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#71 Leejjohno
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Lol @ other poster on the other rage thread saying PS3 version will be light years ahead of 360 version.

Another multiplat is superior on 360....what a surprise

Modern_Unit

Is this game being built from the ground up on each platform? Or is it another game which just gets tweaked? The PS3 version will suffer if it's just a port for the simple reason that the PS3 has signifcantly different architecture and drawbacks that the other two platforms don't have. As Naughty Dog have proven though; with enough time and talent you can get more out of it.

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#72 WhenCicadasCry
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Gettin' the PC version, so none of these frame-rate troubles bother me! 8)

psn8214

I'll be joining you in running Rage on the PC at 400+fps. 8)

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#73 clipse479
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BTW carmack confirmed the PS3 is more powerful.

Then, Carmack talked about developing for consoles for the first time with Rage. He feels that the PS3 has more processing power but that the 360 is easier to program for.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6215286.html

Espada12

They have put more into 360 at this point just like all other multiplats that are "better" on 360 on release.

/thread

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[QUOTE="psn8214"]

Gettin' the PC version, so none of these frame-rate troubles bother me! 8)

WhenCicadasCry

I'll be joining you in running Rage on the PC at 400+fps. 8)

I think more sunglasses emoticons are in order ---> 8)8)8)8)8)8)8)

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#75 Heil68
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I'll get the PC version if I get it at all. Controls, mods, servers and $10 cheaper make it a ridiculously easy decision.
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#76 Leo-Magic
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[QUOTE="felipebo"]

[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

http://www.gamezine.co.uk/news/games/r/rage/carmack-rage-faster-on-xbox-360-and-pc-$1315438.htm

"In the latest Edge magazine, programming wizard John Carmack states that the Xbox 360 version of RAGE just about matches the 60fps framerate of the PC version, while the PS3 only runs the game at around 20-30fps at this stage in development. "

It's not like the game comes out tomorrow. We've got plenty of time.

We've got plenty of time, but the developer dont.
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#77 zero_snake99
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[QUOTE="psn8214"]

Gettin' the PC version, so none of these frame-rate troubles bother me! 8)

WhenCicadasCry

I'll be joining you in running Rage on the PC at 400+fps. 8)

Yeaaaaaah 8) specs in sig yo.
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BTW carmack confirmed the PS3 is more powerful.

Then, Carmack talked about developing for consoles for the first time with Rage. He feels that the PS3 has more processing power but that the 360 is easier to program for.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6215286.html

Espada12

They said he said he feels the PS3 has more processing power, and when you account for the theoretical power of the Cell CPU this might be true. Concerning gaming, he also said this...

"The RSX is slower than what we have in the 360. The CPU is about the same, but the 360 makes it easier to split things off, and that's what a lot of the work has been, splitting it all into jobs on the PS3," Carmack went on to tell Edge Magazine."

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Although he wasn't even directly quoted saying what GS reported, it was in direct response the edge mag interview I have quoted above. His statement was meant to appease mad PS3 fans. Look at the rest of that paragraph...

Then, Carmack talked about developing for consoles for the first time with Rage. He feels that the PS3 has more processing power but that the 360 is easier to program for.

"I know Sony fans might get mad, but all the consoles are so much better than they once were, and are closer together now," he explained diplomatically. As a sop, he said that the 360's space constraints caused a lot of extra work having to go back and streamline textures for the platform."

sop=conciliatory gift

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As per usual, context is highly important.

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http://www.gamezine.co.uk/news/games/r/rage/carmack-rage-faster-on-xbox-360-and-pc-$1315438.htm

"In the latest Edge magazine, programming wizard John Carmack states that the Xbox 360 version of RAGE just about matches the 60fps framerate of the PC version, while the PS3 only runs the game at around 20-30fps at this stage in development. "

markinthedark



Don't post news articles from 2009, please.