ps3 fail rate way higher than the 360 ?

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#51 LegatoSkyheart
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our PS3 is the PS3 Phat and it's fine as dandy.

I think it's the PS3 Slim that has problems.

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#52 360hammer
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Hearsay, indeed, is not a great foundation for laying forth an argument. You need some factual proof to back up your assertion.Androvinus
just looking around the internet. on these forums , on youtube, on other forums you see everyone complaining about the ylod. I'm not positive that its higher than the 360, but i heard that the newer models of the 360 are not prone to the RRoD, plus there is a 3 year warranty.

LMAO, I'm not going to argue which one has the higher failure rate but you really should understand the difference between fact and things you may or may not find on the internet. YouTube :lol: Ya, I heard the elite was RROD free when released with the Jasper joke, I made the mistake of buying one and that lasted a whole 5 months. What's it called now Falcon, maybe gullible chipset.

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#53 nooblet69
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I have a 40 gig and it just broke down on me :(.

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#54 topgunmv
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Overall? No. Not even close. On the plus side, the 360 warranty is very good. It's technically 3 years, but apparently they'll still fix rrod and the e# issue past that for free.

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#55 Kahuna_1
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60gbs are the worst. Mine has got the YLOD 2 times. Just fixed it again and now I have to see how long it will last this time.

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#56 789shadow
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I guess your friends are just unlucky then.

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#57 13C
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ppl need to clean there systems more regularly. That and general hardware failures are the causes of ylod
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#58 Kahuna_1
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[QUOTE="Androvinus"]

it seems like after 2 years or so all ps3s are starting to break down. so many of my friends are on their second or third ps3 and mine is on the verge of breaking too. Anyone who still thinks the fail rate is 2-8% needs to open their eyes.

Jrfanfreak88

My PS3 died last night. I just got done watching a blu ray movie and ejected it so luckily nothing is in the drive. After playing some music on the hard drive for about 30 minutes all of a sudden the PS3 just shut off. YLOD! The PS3 immediately lost connectivity to the controllers. Now when I hit the power button it goes green, then quickly to yellow, then quickly to a flashing red accompanied by three beeps. Holding down the power button does nothing. There are videos of this on youtube that show exactly what is happening to me right now:

Video Showing PS3 YLOD

I have a launch 60gb I got on December 8th of 2006. It lasted almost 3 years and 1 month to the day. I tried to swap back to my old hard drive (changed it out last week for a new 500gb Seagate Momentus that was working gloriously) but that didn't change anything, tried to start it up without the hard drive in it (a rumored possible fix) and that did nothing. It looks like the only way to fix it is to take apart the PS3 and run a heat gun over the CPU and GPU for a few minutes to fix the ruined solder connections. Of course this voids any warranty and makes any deal between Sony and myself for replacement void. All in all I am VERY disappointed that my $600 PS3 is now broken (I just got MW2 and Assassins Creed 2) but I have to admit there is no other machine I use more than it. This is an understandable risk taken when buying a launch console.

They are lying to you like they lied to me. Your warranty expired on December 8, 2007, around the same time as mine. You can open it up and do as you want, but if you send it in and they deem it unrepairable because of something you did, then they will not fix it. Overall it is complete bs from Sony and they are pathetic for not fixing launch models for free from what is clearly a design flaw. The cooling inside the phat PS3s is a joke, the fan is trash, the heat pipes and heat sink are trash. We have fixed my broken 60gb 2 times with the reflow method, it is not difficult if you are good at disassembling and reassembling electronics. I also own a Slim now.

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#59 batman_is_aweso
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how about becuase the recent influx in people buying it here kets do some math

lets say there is 100,000,000 ps3s sold

nevermind no1 listens to me

if anyone wants to hear the rest of this tell me

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Hearsay, indeed, is not a great foundation for laying forth an argument. You need some factual proof to back up your assertion.Androvinus
just looking around the internet. on these forums , on youtube, on other forums you see everyone complaining about the ylod. I'm not positive that its higher than the 360, but i heard that the newer models of the 360 are not prone to the RRoD, plus there is a 3 year warranty.

Yet if every owner with a working PS3 came on these forums, youtube, and other forums saying "My PS3 is working fine guys, not to worry", you would be thinking otherwise, eh? If some type of electronic breaks down, users automatically hit the Internet before calling up the company that made it nowadays.
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#61 Kahuna_1
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ppl need to clean there systems more regularly. That and general hardware failures are the causes of ylod13C

Someone I know has all of their vents on the PS3 clogged with dust and it is on a carpet, but my system got the YLOD which I dusted and kept in a cool spot at all times. Nothing you do can prevent it. Just have to be lucky.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Hearsay, indeed, is not a great foundation for laying forth an argument. You need some factual proof to back up your assertion.delta3074
it's actually 10% according to GS, personally i doubt it's that high, but i am suspicious of the slim, the PS3 actually runs hotter than the 360, it uses more power, but the colling system in it was super efficient, the slim model doesn't have the same cooling system

yeah maybe you're right thats why im surprised many PS3 owners want to jump from the slim type. And the phat one is more better looking too. :?

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#63 GeneralHawx
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Uhhhh...... I still have a 20GB from launch and it runs fine the only issue I have is with the fan which has gotten louder because of the dust
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#64 MizFitAwesome
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This thread looks like Heresay Wars...

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#65 Jrfanfreak88
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[QUOTE="Jrfanfreak88"]

[QUOTE="Androvinus"]

it seems like after 2 years or so all ps3s are starting to break down. so many of my friends are on their second or third ps3 and mine is on the verge of breaking too. Anyone who still thinks the fail rate is 2-8% needs to open their eyes.

Kahuna_1

My PS3 died last night. I just got done watching a blu ray movie and ejected it so luckily nothing is in the drive. After playing some music on the hard drive for about 30 minutes all of a sudden the PS3 just shut off. YLOD! The PS3 immediately lost connectivity to the controllers. Now when I hit the power button it goes green, then quickly to yellow, then quickly to a flashing red accompanied by three beeps. Holding down the power button does nothing. There are videos of this on youtube that show exactly what is happening to me right now:

Video Showing PS3 YLOD

I have a launch 60gb I got on December 8th of 2006. It lasted almost 3 years and 1 month to the day. I tried to swap back to my old hard drive (changed it out last week for a new 500gb Seagate Momentus that was working gloriously) but that didn't change anything, tried to start it up without the hard drive in it (a rumored possible fix) and that did nothing. It looks like the only way to fix it is to take apart the PS3 and run a heat gun over the CPU and GPU for a few minutes to fix the ruined solder connections. Of course this voids any warranty and makes any deal between Sony and myself for replacement void. All in all I am VERY disappointed that my $600 PS3 is now broken (I just got MW2 and Assassins Creed 2) but I have to admit there is no other machine I use more than it. This is an understandable risk taken when buying a launch console.

They are lying to you like they lied to me. Your warranty expired on December 8, 2007, around the same time as mine. You can open it up and do as you want, but if you send it in and they deem it unrepairable because of something you did, then they will not fix it. Overall it is complete bs from Sony and they are pathetic for not fixing launch models for free from what is clearly a design flaw. The cooling inside the phat PS3s is a joke, the fan is trash, the heat pipes and heat sink are trash. We have fixed my broken 60gb 2 times with the reflow method, it is not difficult if you are good at disassembling and reassembling electronics. I also own a Slim now.

Well what I meant by what you put in bold was that I would void that limited warranty where if I pry open my PS3 I can no longer send it in for a replacement one, as you mentioned. I kind of think it's BS too if this is a widespread problem but there's not much I can really do about it. How is the slim btw? I'm thinking of just getting one of those. You like?
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#66 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Hearsay, indeed, is not a great foundation for laying forth an argument. You need some factual proof to back up your assertion.___gamemaster__

it's actually 10% according to GS, personally i doubt it's that high, but i am suspicious of the slim, the PS3 actually runs hotter than the 360, it uses more power, but the colling system in it was super efficient, the slim model doesn't have the same cooling system

yeah maybe you're right thats why im surprised many PS3 owners want to jump from the slim type. And the phat one is more better looking too. :?

i want an old 40gb, apparently you can reverese the fans on it to clean it out
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#67 General_X
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In my fraternity house almost every person who owns a 360 has had to send it in at least once, a handful have had to send it in twice. I couldn't give you an estimate of the PS3 fail rates because only two people here own one instead of a 360, not that such a small sample size means much anyway for either console.
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#68 xX-Incubus-Xx
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My personal experience. Every person I meet that has a 360, I ask them how many RROD's they've had. 1, yes only ONE person has said zero(met him today, I actually congratulated him). Among the hundreds of people I've talked too(yeah, my work has a high turnover rate). Of my actual friends with 360's, being 4, each has had at LEAST 2 RROD's. one of them was on NEW systems each time and he now owns 2 so that he has one working while the other is gone.

Now of the people I know that have PS3's, being 6, NOT ONE has broken down or shown ANY hint of ware. And my own PS3 spends more hours of the day turned on then it does off. Not always gaming but it's still on, doing something be it playing music, movies, whatever.

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I have a 60G launch PS3. I've put countless hours playing PS3, PS2 and PS1 games on it. I can count on my two hands the amount of times it's froze. And each time it was with Oblivion or Fallout 3 (Thanks Bethesda!) It's also my main entertainment system. I own 92 Blu-rays and 550 DVD's. Not once has my PS3 ever failed on me while watching one of them. The system is a beast, plain and simple. I've owned a 360 since launch. I literally had to exchange it within 2 days from purchase because it kept freezing ten minutes into Perfect Dark Zero. My damn NES still works from the miracle of blowing in it, but M$ couldn't make a sytem that last more then ten minutes? My second 360 only red ringed twice thankfully, but froze many times (During Oblivion and Mass Effect) but I ended up trading it in for an Elite because I needed HDMI (Very future proof M$...) I have to install (Best choice M$ ever made) every game I play and the last time I tried to watch a DVD? It red ringed within ten minutes. I wish the 360 didn't even have a disc drive. It is useless. Every single friend of mine who's wanted to jump into Blu-ray I've talked into buying a PS3. Obviously it's now their main DVD/Blu-ray player, and none of them had problems with the slim. Even the worst of trolls can't deny the abomination that is the 360's reliability or play down the extremely excellent reliability of the PS3.
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[QUOTE="guitarsrock4eva"]Just going from what I've heard in my school it seems to be only affecting those who bought a 60gb PS3. And the only way they could have one of those is if they are rich enough (or their parents are) to have got one around the launch time. Some of those people just chucked their old PS3 and bought new ones.iamshivy

thats pretty much what i did with my 60. well i still have it siting in its box.

My 60 runs like a queen, It's never going to fail me, as haven'tmy launch 360 done yet either

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thats wierd and all but Ive had my ps3 for 3 years and its like brand new tthe only ps3s I know that have problems are the 20 GB ones if you get a 60GB one buy a new computer hardrive for it (up to 750GB) not even saying you have to buy the hardrive but with the 60 GB you'll be fine
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#72 Awesome-X23666
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my ps3 I clean maybe every few months I got the YLOD and you know how I fixed it I pushed the power button
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#73 FIipMode
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No, 360's is the highest this gen.
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#74 ActicEdge
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I hope this is a joke thread. I really do :| Someone tell me this is a joke thread

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#75 romans828_2002
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My PS3 just went kablammo on me a few weeks ago. I take pretty good care of it. I had it for three years. I bought a slim, which feels pretty durable. We'll see. I had a launch model 360 which RROD'd after 9 months. I sold it b/c I wanted HDMI. That console RROD'd after 9 months. It's been a long while now and my 360 is running flawlessly now with no sign of any issue. I believe them when they say problem solved. Perhaps it's my perception, but it does seem as if the PS3's reliability is being discussed more frequently lately.
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thats wierd and all but Ive had my ps3 for 3 years and its like brand new tthe only ps3s I know that have problems are the 20 GB ones if you get a 60GB one buy a new computer hardrive for it (up to 750GB) not even saying you have to buy the hardrive but with the 60 GB you'll be fineAwesome-X23666

Why did you bump a thread from January?

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#77 MassiveKaos
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Quick math, let's assume only 1 million people own a PS3, 1,000,000 x 0.08 = 80,000. I am sure your friends + you could be within those 80,000salxis
I know 8 people in real life with ps3s excluding myself and all of ours are dead. Imo ps3 is only getting away because of all the rrod talk but the failrue rate seems to be definitely as high. My fat died twice, died,repaired, then died again and its the same for 2 of thsoe other 8,it died twice.

I havent heard much about the slim but the fats failure rate is defintiely high.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Hearsay, indeed, is not a great foundation for laying forth an argument. You need some factual proof to back up your assertion.Androvinus
just looking around the internet. on these forums , on youtube, on other forums you see everyone complaining about the ylod. I'm not positive that its higher than the 360, but i heard that the newer models of the 360 are not prone to the RRoD, plus there is a 3 year warranty.

Where will people seek help when their console breaks down? dun dun dun DUN - The internet. You may or may not be right, but there's no way this arguement cansustain itself any longer.
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#79 djsifer01
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The average new electronics item has a 15% failure rate in its first 3 to 4 years. Taken form a study in 2010 tested on>> 16,000 systems is only .06% (that's right, less than a tenth of a percent) of all the Playstations sold and is only about .2% of all systems sold in the U.S. The PS3 is one of the most reliable piece of electronic equipment available. The 360 failure rate is still at 23-30% on models before the slim.
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#80 abuabed
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heh? you wish! Besides, where is your proof?
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#81 GramDubs
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lol nice try, 360 fail rate is at 54% according to game informer. and everyone on here is on their 2nd 3rd 4th and 5th 360. ps3 is around 8%

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#82 tommyas
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Everyone I know says the same thing, that PS3's are crap. Everyone. You know, 3 of my friends at school and like the entire internet. All of it. Yeah. And they not only breakdown, but they explode. And cause cancer. PS3s also have offensive political and religious affiliations. Thats why the 360 is like totally awesome.beekayjay
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