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#1 Phazevariance
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PS3 is a fail this generation:

-Lost "exclusive" develpers due to lack of sales in the console hardware, and lack of attach rate. As sales for teh console rose, attach rates did not change. This proves people are mostly buying the PS3 for the bluray player function. Again, thats MOST.

-Controller batteries are STUCk in teh controller. PS3 fans liek to claim a victory with rechargeable controllers, but they obvisouly have no idea what a rechargeable battery does in 1-2 years time. Batteries have a limited amount of times they can be recharged. After abuot a year, the batteries will only last about 10 minutes of use. This also happens with cell phone batteries. So you ahve to buy a new controller. At least the 360 lets you replace the batteries...

-Trophies are tacked on. Most games don't support them. It is becoming mandatory next year, because 360 has made somethign that sony really liked. So they copied this concept. Develoeprs did not jump on board like they had hoped, so now they are making it mandatory. This is an epic fail for Phoney..er Sony.

-Home is nothing more than an onilne visual chat, and is beign used for gangs, racist slurs, and woman chasing. Any complaints a PS3 fan had abuot live beign vulgar, is wiped out by the fact that Sony has made it easier to be anonamously vicious in talking online. Also, home is quite boring once the newness of chat wears off.

-Many if nto MOST of the multiplatform titles between 360 and PS3 are superior on the 360. Why is this? Well its because of teh architecture and hardware specs. It's easier to program for a 360, which uses similar structutres to a PC, where as Sony tried to make something new and in turn made it harder to make games for it. This increases development time and decreases quality of the games. That's why 360 has sharper textuers, and renders at a higher resolution.

-Sixaxis... what can i say about this, it was a disaster. No games used the tilt function PROPERLY, and the ones that did were non functional/nonplayable. Again with the batteries. it's so light, it feels like it was made with cheap plastic. They coppied MS with the guide button.

-Online is just inferior to Xbox Live. It lacks cross game chat/friend invites, and the matchmaking is inferior. The lag on PSN is also much higher than Live, but this is really more dependant on the users internet connection. The lag is mostly caused by the wireless feature, wireless can not compete with the stability and response times of an ethernet connection.

-Price, the 360 is half the price of the PS3 at the moment. You can buy a 360 arcade and a cheap bluray player from future shop and still be aroudn the price of a single ps3 unit, except that id your bluray player breaks, you still have a gaming console to play with. I don't se Sony gettign their consoles price down low enough until next generation starts, by then it will be too late.

-The Ps3 has had many features cut since the original launch units. Card readers, backwards compatibility, even the controller has changed. All this just to et their price down to compete with Microsoft. Sony was soo stuck on getting Cell and Bluray into the market as fast as possible, that consumer demand for a lower price was overlooked. As it trns out, cell failed, and they ended up selling the rights to it, and bluray is not selling as much as they hoped. It had one good side effect however, they are able to sell PS3 unts as bluray movie players, to bloat up their hardware sales. Too bad developers dont go by install base, they go by software attach rates.

-The lies sony has uttered over the past few years has been aggrovating for many Sony fans. Delays, and promises that were never kept, this is bad PR and i'm sure has cost them some defects over to the 360 side.

-It's truly amazing to see how many gamers had PS2's and PS1's as their only consoles, mostly due to the young age of these gamers. Many older gamers know that games were around before SOny, in such forms as colleco vision, atari, sega, and nintendo, way before Sony even entered the market. Those young kids see Sony as the only true gaming platform, because they jsut don't know any better, and that blind fanboyism has led many of them to buy the PS3 and even some of them got dissappointed in all teh points mentioned above. Blindness and ignorance has made many of you fans lose out on many great games because you can't give up the attachment to the namebrand of Sony PlayStation. I feel sorry for you.

That is how PS3 is a failure and 360 trumps it.

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#2 SolidTy
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Uh, TC? Hello.

I have had my PS3's for over Two Years, and never had a problem with the controllers, ever.

I like how you try to turn good things into negatives, and top that off with negatives.

 

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#4 Maxyboy13
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-Price, the 360 is half the price of the PS3 at the moment. You can buy a 360 arcade and a cheap bluray player from future shop and still be aroudn the price of a single ps3 unit, except that id your bluray player breaks, you still have a gaming console to play with. I don't se Sony gettign their consoles price down low enough until next generation starts, by then it will be too late.

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So you're suggesting that, if you buy a 360 and a blu-ray player at the same time, the bluray player will break first. :| 

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#5 DragonFlyJ
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Wow, hater? I just want to make a correction: Sony doesn't lose an exclusive. Third party games are going mulit-platform. Meaning no one "loses" anything.
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#6 onewiththegame
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Uh, TC? Hello.

I have had my PS3's for over Two Years, and never had a problem with the controllers, ever.

I like how you try to turn good things into negatives, and top that off with negatives.

 

SolidTy

but the battery wont last forever and when it does die you have to buy a new controller, thats a negative to me

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#7 NinjaMunkey01
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Ive had my ps3 since launch, no controller problems at all.

And heres the real awnser, get both consoles. Otherwise for the ps3 you miss out on warhawk, Killzone 2, resistance 2 ect...

All the consoles are great, personally though I like the ps3 the best.

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#8 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Uh, TC? Hello.

I have had my PS3's for over Two Years, and never had a problem with the controllers, ever.

I like how you try to turn good things into negatives, and top that off with negatives.

 

onewiththegame

but the battery wont last forever and when it does die you have to buy a new controller, thats a negative to me

Sony already said they would replace it if you call them, but you could also just use the cord and play it as a wired controller as well. 

The TC even said, Sony lost their games, when they didn't, they just lost exclusivity. There's a big difference.

He also suggested that a Blu-Ray player would break before a 360 would, this things full of bias, it's hard to find good points in there.

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#9 JIT93
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Uh, TC? Hello.

I have had my PS3's for over Two Years, and never had a problem with the controllers, ever.

I like how you try to turn good things into negatives, and top that off with negatives.

 

onewiththegame

but the battery wont last forever and when it does die you have to buy a new controller, thats a negative to me

There are instructions on how to replace the battery :|
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#10 king_bobo
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Ive had my ps3 since launch, no controller problems at all.

And heres the real awnser, get both consoles. Otherwise for the ps3 you miss out on warhawk, Killzone 2, resistance 2 ect...

All the consoles are great, personally though I like the ps3 the best.

NinjaMunkey01
Exactly, and if you don't have an Xbox 360 you miss out on Gears of War 1 + 2, Left 4 Dead (if you don't have a gaming PC), Halo 3 and some brilliant RPGs (e.g. Fable II).
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[QUOTE="onewiththegame"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Uh, TC? Hello.

I have had my PS3's for over Two Years, and never had a problem with the controllers, ever.

I like how you try to turn good things into negatives, and top that off with negatives.

 

SolidTy

but the battery wont last forever and when it does die you have to buy a new controller, thats a negative to me

Sony already said they would replace it if you call them, but you could also just use the cord and play it as a wired controller as well. 

The TC even said, Sony lost their games, when they didn't, they just lost exclusivity. There's a big difference.

He also suggested that a Blu-Ray player would break before a 360 would, this things full of bias, it's hard to find good points in there.

Wrong. If anything, it's Microsoft's advantage - why get a PS3 when you can get the superior version on the 360?

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No son you fail.:)

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#13 NinjaMunkey01
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[QUOTE="king_bobo"][QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]

Ive had my ps3 since launch, no controller problems at all.

And heres the real awnser, get both consoles. Otherwise for the ps3 you miss out on warhawk, Killzone 2, resistance 2 ect...

All the consoles are great, personally though I like the ps3 the best.

Exactly, and if you don't have an Xbox 360 you miss out on Gears of War 1 + 2, Left 4 Dead (if you don't have a gaming PC), Halo 3 and some brilliant RPGs (e.g. Fable II).

Yep that too. For me this year would have been much worse for gaming without the 360 too, Gears 2 is incredible for singleplayer. The only things that beats its story is MGS4 but I like Gears 2's controls better. Botrh consoles are brilliant, if I had to choose 1 it would be based on what my friends have to play online, not games since both are very similar.
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Despite popular belief, I really like the PS3. And I think the PS3 and 360 are about in the same league. I just have some personal preferences (controller, online interface), and that's why I tend to game more with 360.
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Despite popular belief, I really like the PS3. And I think the PS3 and 360 are about in the same league. I just have some personal preferences (controller, online interface), and that's why I tend to game more with 360.BioShockOwnz
Personal preference? What's that? This is SW and there is only right and wrong.
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A lot of those points just don't seem very convincing. I don't see PS3 as a fail because of any of those.
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After reading about how the battery is stuck in the controller, I thought this was a joke.
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#20 Bazooka_4ME
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PS3 is a fail this generation:

-Lost "exclusive" develpers due to lack of sales in the console hardware, and lack of attach rate. As sales for teh console rose, attach rates did not change. This proves people are mostly buying the PS3 for the bluray player function. Again, thats MOST.

*Haven't you lemms learned that software sales don't prove **** in contrast hardware sales? Just look back in 2007 and you'll learn.

-Controller batteries are STUCk in teh controller. PS3 fans liek to claim a victory with rechargeable controllers, but they obvisouly have no idea what a rechargeable battery does in 1-2 years time. Batteries have a limited amount of times they can be recharged. After abuot a year, the batteries will only last about 10 minutes of use. This also happens with cell phone batteries. So you ahve to buy a new controller. At least the 360 lets you replace the batteries...

*MY 60gb PS3 since launch with the SIXAXIS are still working :|

-Trophies are tacked on. Most games don't support them. It is becoming mandatory next year, because 360 has made somethign that sony really liked. So they copied this concept. Develoeprs did not jump on board like they had hoped, so now they are making it mandatory. This is an epic fail for Phoney..er Sony.

*Trophies will become mandatory starting next year plus it'll give currency support once implemented in HOME for item purchases.

-Home is nothing more than an onilne visual chat, and is beign used for gangs, racist slurs, and woman chasing. Any complaints a PS3 fan had abuot live beign vulgar, is wiped out by the fact that Sony has made it easier to be anonamously vicious in talking online. Also, home is quite boring once the newness of chat wears off.

*:lol: how's HOME different than LIVE or any other internet socializing communities such as MySpace and internet forums??

-Many if nto MOST of the multiplatform titles between 360 and PS3 are superior on the 360. Why is this? Well its because of teh architecture and hardware specs. It's easier to program for a 360, which uses similar structutres to a PC, where as Sony tried to make something new and in turn made it harder to make games for it. This increases development time and decreases quality of the games. That's why 360 has sharper textuers, and renders at a higher resolution.

*debunked -- GTA4, COD4, Burnout Paradise says hi (lol, I know you're only referring to Fallout 3, the rest like HalfLife 2 is pretty obvious :roll:

-Sixaxis... what can i say about this, it was a disaster. No games used the tilt function PROPERLY, and the ones that did were non functional/nonplayable. Again with the batteries. it's so light, it feels like it was made with cheap plastic. They coppied MS with the guide button.

*Same as above and DS3 has taken over the SIXAXIS.

-Online is just inferior to Xbox Live. It lacks cross game chat/friend invites, and the matchmaking is inferior. The lag on PSN is also much higher than Live, but this is really more dependant on the users internet connection. The lag is mostly caused by the wireless feature, wireless can not compete with the stability and response times of an ethernet connection.

*FREE >>>> extra unnecessary features. :lol: I didn't know Warhawk and Resistance 2 with 30+ players playing in one game lags more than Gears 2's MP. BTW, my router sits from the other end to my house with the PS3 on the other and I've host many Resistance 2 Competitive games with 60 players and not even a single sign of lag.

-Price, the 360 is half the price of the PS3 at the moment. You can buy a 360 arcade and a cheap bluray player from future shop and still be aroudn the price of a single ps3 unit, except that id your bluray player breaks, you still have a gaming console to play with. I don't se Sony gettign their consoles price down low enough until next generation starts, by then it will be too late.

*I made a thread about this the other day and it has been debunked since a $399 MGS4 + GunMetal Grey PS3 popped out in retail stores.

-The Ps3 has had many features cut since the original launch units. Card readers, backwards compatibility, even the controller has changed. All this just to et their price down to compete with Microsoft. Sony was soo stuck on getting Cell and Bluray into the market as fast as possible, that consumer demand for a lower price was overlooked. As it trns out, cell failed, and they ended up selling the rights to it, and bluray is not selling as much as they hoped. It had one good side effect however, they are able to sell PS3 unts as bluray movie players, to bloat up their hardware sales. Too bad developers dont go by install base, they go by software attach rates.

*lol, so much irony and hypocracy on this one. I'll just pass it.

-The lies sony has uttered over the past few years has been aggrovating for many Sony fans. Delays, and promises that were never kept, this is bad PR and i'm sure has cost them some defects over to the 360 side.

*Sony has been delivering since they launched the PS3. Fanboys/SW says otherwise.

-It's truly amazing to see how many gamers had PS2's and PS1's as their only consoles, mostly due to the young age of these gamers. Many older gamers know that games were around before SOny, in such forms as colleco vision, atari, sega, and nintendo, way before Sony even entered the market. Those young kids see Sony as the only true gaming platform, because they jsut don't know any better, and that blind fanboyism has led many of them to buy the PS3 and even some of them got dissappointed in all teh points mentioned above. Blindness and ignorance has made many of you fans lose out on many great games because you can't give up the attachment to the namebrand of Sony PlayStation. I feel sorry for you.

*I think it's vice-versa that you should feel sorry for Xbox 360 who just started gaming this gen because they have never experienced other great consoles such as the PS1 and N64.

That is how PS3 is a failure and 360 trumps it.

*IMO, nothing is a failure except for fanboys who are trying to downgrade a console making false claims and have done nothing but bash consoles.

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#21 Overlord93
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Sony unable to outsell clearly inferior consoles = fail

Sony  unable to get any decent exclusives = fail

Sony losing blu-ray = EPIC FAIL

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Wait did he just stoop so low as to resort to whipping out the sony copyed this crap. Well my friend two can play at this game, Hell im just gonna put a major one down. Didnt the origional xbox copy cd based games from sony who was the first to use cds in a console.
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Lost "exclusive" develpers due to lack of sales in the console hardware, and lack of attach rate. As sales for teh console rose, attach rates did not change. This proves people are mostly buying the PS3 for the bluray player function. Again, thats MOST.Phazevariance
I could debunk each of your points but I don't have the time so I will just start with the first: PS3 sales are not poor: 6 months after launch, with the entire next gen market to itself, the 360 sold 3.2 million units. 6 months after the PS3 launch, competing against the 360 and Wii, the PS3 managed to sell 200k more units. 12 months after launch the 360 had sold 6.2 million units, 12 months after launch the PS3 had sold 6.8 million units, 600k more than the 360. So why did the PS3 loose exclusives? Increased development complexity and cost as well as the fact that the 360 began to prove itself to be a viable platform (not to mention some help from MS's "marketing" budget ;) ) Attach rate corresponds to the size and quality of the library more so than hardware units sold. And yes, gamers are spending some of their entertainment budget on Blu-ray titles vs PS3 games. As the size and quality of the PS3 library increases (and it has made great strides in '08 and looks to be improving even more in '09) so too will the attach rate.
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#25 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Uh, TC? Hello.

I have had my PS3's for over Two Years, and never had a problem with the controllers, ever.

I like how you try to turn good things into negatives, and top that off with negatives.

 

onewiththegame

but the battery wont last forever and when it does die you have to buy a new controller, thats a negative to me

Ya and buy that time they'll be dirt cheap
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"great another thread just like AHUGECAT's what is today national hate on the ps3 day or something??whats wrong is your 360 broke with the rrod right now that you have to make a list full of fail and bias why the ps3 sucks to pass the time since oyu cant play your 360??"

- E-E-E-E-E-E-P-P-P-P-P-I-I-I-I-C-C-C-C____________ F-F-F-F-A-A-A-I-I-I-L-L-L

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PSWii60 FTW!!!! ;)
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"great another thread just like AHUGECAT's what is today national hate on the ps3 day or something??whats wrong is your 360 broke with the rrod right now that you have to make a list full of fail and bias why the ps3 sucks to pass the time since oyu cant play your 360??"

- E-E-E-E-E-E-P-P-P-P-P-I-I-I-I-C-C-C-C____________ F-F-F-F-A-A-A-I-I-I-L-L-L

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this coming from the kid that says the ps3 lost blu ray support and called it an epic fail, you my friend are the epic fail and you dont even know it. just in case you diont know the ps3 still has blu ray and has more than plenty of quality exclusives. Just go back to playing halo ok.
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Heres something iv been seeing the past few days on here that i dont understand,

People saying cod4 and gta 4 look better on the ps3?

i thought they were proven to look and polay better on the 360

Cod4 on the ps3 has some areas of muddy textures , eg like on the flags

GTA4 on the 360 has more online modes than the ps3 counterpart, also the ps3 version is 620p

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#30 Overlord93
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I was commenting on how sony have lost blu-ray as exclusive, the next xbox will have it, or else sony will lose all windows compatability
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I was commenting on how sony have lost blu-ray as exclusive, the next xbox will have it, or else sony will lose all windows compatabilityOverlord93
wow r u seriously talking about the next xbox. You have no idea what the next xbox will have. i could say the next playstation will have playstation live with all the same features,, see what i did there??
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#32 Overlord93
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The 360 has been out like 3 years now, and anyway, thats beside the point, sony have LOST blu-ray
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Heres something iv been seeing the past few days on here that i dont understand,

People saying cod4 and gta 4 look better on the ps3?

i thought they were proven to look and polay better on the 360

Cod4 on the ps3 has some areas of muddy textures , eg like on the flags

GTA4 on the 360 has more online modes than the ps3 counterpart, also the ps3 version is 620p

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I know right? It's like one cow says something and they ALL take it an run with it like it's a fact. Also, there are TONS of multiplat games, and cows think that listing 3 or 4 games that look equal or better on the PS3 somehow disproves the "most" multiplats look as good or better on the 360. It's been a long time since I was in math class, but since when has 3 been greater than 50+(probably a conservative estimate)?
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#34 SkyZ00
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The lag is mostly caused by the wireless feature, wireless can not compete with the stability and response times of an ethernet connection.

I don't think you know how networks work.

Most wireless routers now come in with the 802.11g wireless standard, this supports up to 54 Mbps.  Now granted Wireless still works on a somewhat hub-like technology you only get about 50-60% of that theoretical bandwidth if you take into account collisions that happens during data transfers and attenuation.  so you would get bout 27 Mbps throughput.

Usual ISP give you bout 3-10 Mbps on your broadband connection to the internet.  Thats up to as well, so you will rarely get the higher end of that promised bandwidth so lets say with a 3-10 Mbps bandwidth on you, you would probably get a 3-5 Mbps Throughput.

Your wireless works at 27 Mbps on LAN connections, but your WAN connection is bottlenecked at bout 3-5 Mbps throughput.  In other words, unless your playing with another buddy on your same LAN, wireless will not slow down your connection to either Xbox Live or PSN.

 

 

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its funny how people take this thing a little seriously, i mean come on!

PS3 is OBVIOUSLY better than the 360 :roll: 

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Heres something iv been seeing the past few days on here that i dont understand,

People saying cod4 and gta 4 look better on the ps3?

i thought they were proven to look and polay better on the 360

Cod4 on the ps3 has some areas of muddy textures , eg like on the flags

GTA4 on the 360 has more online modes than the ps3 counterpart, also the ps3 version is 620p

scottiescott238
but along with a true 720p resolution also comes more pop-ins, inferior draw distances, and faster loading times (maily because of the install)
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#37 jimm895
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The controllers batteries are easy to replace when they finally reach the end of there life cycle. I haver had the battery out of my Sixaxis just to see how hard it was to R&R later on (takes just a few minutes to R&R the battery).
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#38 Kratos-Sackboy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

but the battery wont last forever and when it does die you have to buy a new controller, thats a negative to me

AHUGECAT

Sony already said they would replace it if you call them, but you could also just use the cord and play it as a wired controller as well. 

The TC even said, Sony lost their games, when they didn't, they just lost exclusivity. There's a big difference.

He also suggested that a Blu-Ray player would break before a 360 would, this things full of bias, it's hard to find good points in there.

Wrong. If anything, it's Microsoft's advantage - why get a PS3 when you can get the superior version on the 360?

 

You and the TC are just PS3 bashers. You lied and stated that you had a PS3 but had no proof. Why lie? Just admit that your a PS3 basher

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#39 POJO_MOFO
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[QUOTE="onewiththegame"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Uh, TC? Hello.

I have had my PS3's for over Two Years, and never had a problem with the controllers, ever.

I like how you try to turn good things into negatives, and top that off with negatives.

 

but the battery wont last forever and when it does die you have to buy a new controller, thats a negative to me

umm, you can replace the batteries, just that not many people have had to yet because Lithium Ion batteries last for years. Plus you would have probably spent $100+ dollars on batteries for the 360 controller in that time
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#40 Steppy_76
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The lag is mostly caused by the wireless feature, wireless can not compete with the stability and response times of an ethernet connection.SkyZ00

I don't think you know how networks work.

Most wireless routers now come in with the 802.11g wireless standard, this supports up to 54 Mbps.  Now granted Wireless still works on a somewhat hub-like technology you only get about 50-60% of that theoretical bandwidth if you take into account collisions that happens during data transfers and attenuation.  so you would get bout 27 Mbps throughput.

Usual ISP give you bout 3-10 Mbps on your broadband connection to the internet.  Thats up to as well, so you will rarely get the higher end of that promised bandwidth so lets say with a 3-10 Mbps bandwidth on you, you would probably get a 3-5 Mbps Throughput.

Your wireless works at 27 Mbps on LAN connections, but your WAN connection is bottlenecked at bout 3-5 Mbps throughput.  In other words, unless your playing with another buddy on your same LAN, wireless will not slow down your connection to either Xbox Live or PSN.

 

 

It's not the bandwidth that's the problem, as even wireless B was fast enough for most internet connections, where wired shines above wireless is in response time...there is a slight delay introduced when you use a wireless connection over a wired one...do a line test sometime and compare your ping times with wired vs. wireless.
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#41 -Sniper99-
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Uh, TC? Hello.

I have had my PS3's for over Two Years, and never had a problem with the controllers, ever.

I like how you try to turn good things into negatives, and top that off with negatives.

 

onewiththegame

but the battery wont last forever and when it does die you have to buy a new controller, thats a negative to me

Just like all those Wii and PSP batteries that have died eh? :roll:
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#42 Steppy_76
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[QUOTE="POJO_MOFO"][QUOTE="onewiththegame"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Uh, TC? Hello.

I have had my PS3's for over Two Years, and never had a problem with the controllers, ever.

I like how you try to turn good things into negatives, and top that off with negatives.

 

but the battery wont last forever and when it does die you have to buy a new controller, thats a negative to me

umm, you can replace the batteries, just that not many people have had to yet because Lithium Ion batteries last for years. Plus you would have probably spent $100+ dollars on batteries for the 360 controller in that time

Most last for years, but just like every other rechargeable battery your mileage will vary. I've had NiCd's NimH's, and LiIon's die quick while others have lasted years. I guarantee there's been a percentage of DS3's where the battery already won't hold a charge.
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#43 onewiththegame
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[QUOTE="onewiththegame"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Uh, TC? Hello.

I have had my PS3's for over Two Years, and never had a problem with the controllers, ever.

I like how you try to turn good things into negatives, and top that off with negatives.

 

-Sniper99-

but the battery wont last forever and when it does die you have to buy a new controller, thats a negative to me

Just like all those Wii and PSP batteries that have died eh? :roll:

your right batteries never die, ever..:roll:

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#44 -Sniper99-
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[QUOTE="-Sniper99-"][QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

 

but the battery wont last forever and when it does die you have to buy a new controller, thats a negative to me

onewiththegame

Just like all those Wii and PSP batteries that have died eh? :roll:

your right batteries never die, ever..:roll:

I've had my DS since launch. If I can get that length of time on my dualshock 3 and not ruin the environment/waste money on batteries, then I'm a happy camper:D
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#45 SkyZ00
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It's not the bandwidth that's the problem, as even wireless B was fast enough for most internet connections, where wired shines above wireless is in response time...there is a slight delay introduced when you use a wireless connection over a wired one...do a line test sometime and compare your ping times with wired vs. wireless.

Delay doesn't matter, since even considering the delay, the collisions, the attenuation, the noise and everything else, the throughput is still at around 16+ Mbps.  Yes thats a huge difference between the 54 Mbps 11g was promised for, but at the end of the day, you are still pushing 16Mbps through that line, then it becomes bottlenecked to bout 3-10 Mbps ISP side.

 802.11b was fast enough but thanks to its operating spectrum 2.4Ghz, it experienced a lot of interference.  Wireless might not provide the throughput the ethernet standard does, but in a typical house/wireless set-up it should provide enough throughput as to not lag the player while in game.  If anything, the lag they will receive is from the ISP side, the bandwidth utilization(player downloading porn), or the servers themselves are too busy. Rarely does lag over the internet come from LAN technology as LAN typically offers more speed than WAN, unless you've subscribed to a private ATM/SONET network.

 That, and the TC made it seem like Wireless is the only connection option the ps3 has.

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#46 Phazevariance
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[QUOTE="Steppy_76"][QUOTE="SkyZ00"]

The lag is mostly caused by the wireless feature, wireless can not compete with the stability and response times of an ethernet connection.

I don't think you know how networks work.

Most wireless routers now come in with the 802.11g wireless standard, this supports up to 54 Mbps.  Now granted Wireless still works on a somewhat hub-like technology you only get about 50-60% of that theoretical bandwidth if you take into account collisions that happens during data transfers and attenuation.  so you would get bout 27 Mbps throughput.

Usual ISP give you bout 3-10 Mbps on your broadband connection to the internet.  Thats up to as well, so you will rarely get the higher end of that promised bandwidth so lets say with a 3-10 Mbps bandwidth on you, you would probably get a 3-5 Mbps Throughput.

Your wireless works at 27 Mbps on LAN connections, but your WAN connection is bottlenecked at bout 3-5 Mbps throughput.  In other words, unless your playing with another buddy on your same LAN, wireless will not slow down your connection to either Xbox Live or PSN.

 

 

It's not the bandwidth that's the problem, as even wireless B was fast enough for most internet connections, where wired shines above wireless is in response time...there is a slight delay introduced when you use a wireless connection over a wired one...do a line test sometime and compare your ping times with wired vs. wireless.

Exactly, not to mention that that delay increases based on the distance from the receiver, as the signal strength drops. Also, for others who did not read my first point, i said Sony lost 'exclusive' developers, as in they are not exclusive anymore. Now, regarding teh batteries, yes, it is fine for now, even after 2 yers, but $100 bet sayd that your lifespan is shorter now than it was when you bought it, and that will continue to decrease in length. Also, getting the batteries out is a pain in the but for the average user. The 360 you can buy 1 set of rechargeable batteries AND the recharger, for like $30 (for 8 batteries) and thats all you'll need for a LOOOOONG time. No one would spend $800 on batteries over 2 years when $30 for an 8 pack of rechargeables is much cheaper. Sorry, PS3 is not terrible, but the 360 is better (even if slightly) and definately when you compare bang for your buck.
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#47 eklineage
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if the ps3 sucks. Why do you make a thread about it? It's clear that if you took the time and effort to make this wall of text, there must be something that you like about it. I just find this as another insecurity thread to keep telling yourself the 360 has everything. But no... it doesn't. Same goes for the wii and ps3.

I mean... if I thought the ps3 sucked so hard, I wouldn't give it another thought and be happy with what the 360 has to offer. lol @ u

Too bad. It's not like in the wizard of oz where you can click your heels and say "there's no place like home". Just replacing that statement with "the ps3 sucks, 360 rules" doesn't work in reality. Sorry.

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#48 joopyme
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[QUOTE="DragonFlyJ"]Wow, hater? I just want to make a correction: Sony doesn't lose an exclusive. Third party games are going mulit-platform. Meaning no one "loses" anything.

i think he means OPPORTUNITY lost... well, i still enjoy them, and i prefer to game on my ps3 than my 360.. :D
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#49 3picuri3
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Ive had my ps3 since launch, no controller problems at all.

And heres the real awnser, get both consoles. Otherwise for the ps3 you miss out on warhawk, Killzone 2, resistance 2 ect...

All the consoles are great, personally though I like the ps3 the best.

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i can do without kz2, wh2, and r2, thx. much rather have that extra 500$ for something else.
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#50 Kratos-Sackboy
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[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]

Ive had my ps3 since launch, no controller problems at all.

And heres the real awnser, get both consoles. Otherwise for the ps3 you miss out on warhawk, Killzone 2, resistance 2 ect...

All the consoles are great, personally though I like the ps3 the best.

3picuri3

i can do without kz2, wh2, and r2, thx. much rather have that extra 500$ for something else.

 

You meant $400?