PS3 fans are just going to have to face up to it...

You have no games (that Xbox 360 owners can't already play) that're better than Bioshock, Gears, Forza 2, and a whole host of other games that've done better across the board.

Maybe in the future, maybe when LBP comes out or when MGS4 comes out or whatever... But for now, you just don't. Your console lacks superb games.

If you want anyone at all to have any respect left for you by the time you DO get a superb game, it would be advisable to not embarass yourselves by trying to "own" or bash the games that quite clearly show your console up as pathetic and have done since it's launch.

What makes me and other PS3 fans more comfortable is the fact that out of all 3 games you mentioned.....

Gears of War Released 12 Months into 360's lifecycle.

Forza Motorsport 2 Released 18 Months into 360's lifecycle.

BioShock Released 21 Months into 360's lifecycle.

PlayStation 3's current lifecycle: 9 Months. Do you remember what 360 fans were hyping 9 months into its lifecycle? Lost Planet, Dead Rising, Saint's Row.....

1) Forza 2 isnt that great. When the new GT comes out, forza 2 wont compare. True story.

2) You have a system thats been out for nearly 2 years that has large 3rd party support due to the system being easy to develop games. You might have us on that one, but only for a small amount of time.

3) We got Warhawk a few days ago.....and we have a few decent games coming out in the next two weeks (Lair, Heavenly Sword) and before you bash those games, please play them first. Thanks

What makes me and other PS3 fans more comfortable is the fact that out of all 3 games you mentioned.....

Gears of War Released 12 Months into 360's lifecycle.

Forza Motorsport 2 Released 18 Months into 360's lifecycle.

BioShock Released 21 Months into 360's lifecycle.

PlayStation 3's current lifecycle: 9 Months.

Uptown

LMAO! The TC self-owned himself

PlayStation 3's current lifecycle: 9 Months. Do you remember what 360 fans were hyping 9 months into its lifecycle? Lost Planet, Dead Rising, Saint's Row.....

Uptown

owned.

What makes me and other PS3 fans more comfortable is the fact that out of all 3 games you mentioned.....

Gears of War Released 12 Months into 360's lifecycle.

Forza Motorsport 2 Released 18 Months into 360's lifecycle.

BioShock Released 21 Months into 360's lifecycle.

PlayStation 3's current lifecycle: 9 Months. Do you remember what 360 fans were hyping 9 months into its lifecycle? Lost Planet, Dead Rising, Saint's Row.....

Uptown

What makes me and other PS3 fans more comfortable is the fact that out of all 3 games you mentioned.....

Gears of War Released 12 Months into 360's lifecycle.

Forza Motorsport 2 Released 18 Months into 360's lifecycle.

BioShock Released 21 Months into 360's lifecycle.

PlayStation 3's current lifecycle: 9 Months. Do you remember what 360 fans were hyping 9 months into its lifecycle? Lost Planet, Dead Rising, Saint's Row.....

Uptown

What makes me and other PS3 fans more comfortable is the fact that out of all 3 games you mentioned.....

Gears of War Released 12 Months into 360's lifecycle.

Forza Motorsport 2 Released 18 Months into 360's lifecycle.

BioShock Released 21 Months into 360's lifecycle.

PlayStation 3's current lifecycle: 9 Months. Do you remember what 360 fans were hyping 9 months into its lifecycle? Lost Planet, Dead Rising, Saint's Row.....

Uptown

Agreed /thread

What makes me and other PS3 fans more comfortable is the fact that out of all 3 games you mentioned.....

Gears of War Released 12 Months into 360's lifecycle.

Forza Motorsport 2 Released 18 Months into 360's lifecycle.

BioShock Released 21 Months into 360's lifecycle.

PlayStation 3's current lifecycle: 9 Months. Do you remember what 360 fans were hyping 9 months into its lifecycle? Lost Planet, Dead Rising, Saint's Row.....

Uptown

What "awesome" games are coming out on PS3 within the next 3 months? OH! WAIT A MINUTE! Haze and UT3 exclusiveness? LATA TC

PlayStation 3's current lifecycle: 9 Months. Do you remember what 360 fans were hyping 9 months into its lifecycle? Lost Planet, Dead Rising, Saint's Row.....

Uptown

I remember we had AAA's 9 months into 360's lifecycle.

The three I listed were listed because they're recent. The thread is about PS3 fans bashing 360 games and, well, I don't think anyone is going back and bashing Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 1, are they? The three games I listed (along with a note saying "And a whole host of others", incase you missed it) were listed because they're still at the forefront of everyone's minds.

Nice spin on things by focusing on the small deliberately recent selection I highlighted, but, I'm afraid you're going to have to do a lot better than that sir. Even if your little buddies are already jumping in with the "/threads" and the "owned" very prematurely.

[QUOTE="Uptown"]

What makes me and other PS3 fans more comfortable is the fact that out of all 3 games you mentioned.....

Gears of War Released 12 Months into 360's lifecycle.

Forza Motorsport 2 Released 18 Months into 360's lifecycle.

BioShock Released 21 Months into 360's lifecycle.

PlayStation 3's current lifecycle: 9 Months. Do you remember what 360 fans were hyping 9 months into its lifecycle? Lost Planet, Dead Rising, Saint's Row.....

blitzinger123

What "awesome" games are coming out on PS3 within the next 3 months? OH! WAIT A MINUTE! Haze and UT3 exclusiveness? LATA TC

Bioshock and Gears arnt excusive either, they are both on the PC and PS3 is getting Haze timed exclusive and UT 3 console timed excusive. Its also getting, Heavenly sword, Uncharted drakes fortune, Ratchet and clank future, lair and Warhawk which came out yesterday.

I remember we had AAA's 9 months into 360's lifecycle.Newnab

[QUOTE="Uptown"]

PlayStation 3's current lifecycle: 9 Months. Do you remember what 360 fans were hyping 9 months into its lifecycle? Lost Planet, Dead Rising, Saint's Row.....

Newnab

I remember we had AAA's 9 months into 360's lifecycle.

The three I listed were listed because they're recent. The thread is about PS3 fans bashing 360 games and, well, I don't think anyone is going back and bashing Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 1, are they? The three games I listed (along with a note saying "And a whole host of others", incase you missed it) were listed because they're still at the forefront of everyone's minds.

Nice spin on things by focusing on the small deliberately recent selection I highlighted, but, I'm afraid you're going to have to do a lot better than that sir. Even if your little buddies are already jumping in with the "/threads" and the "owned" very prematurely.

GRAW was great, but not so much anymore. So the PS3 library > GRAW.

[QUOTE="blitzinger123"][QUOTE="Uptown"]

What makes me and other PS3 fans more comfortable is the fact that out of all 3 games you mentioned.....

Gears of War Released 12 Months into 360's lifecycle.

Forza Motorsport 2 Released 18 Months into 360's lifecycle.

BioShock Released 21 Months into 360's lifecycle.

PlayStation 3's current lifecycle: 9 Months. Do you remember what 360 fans were hyping 9 months into its lifecycle? Lost Planet, Dead Rising, Saint's Row.....

MGS9150

What "awesome" games are coming out on PS3 within the next 3 months? OH! WAIT A MINUTE! Haze and UT3 exclusiveness? LATA TC

Bioshock and Gears arnt excusive either, they are both on the PC and PS3 is getting Haze timed exclusive and UT 3 console timed excusive. Its also getting, Heavenly sword, Uncharted drakes fortune, Ratchet and clank future, lair and Warhawk which came out yesterday.

I know. I was being sarcastic (hence the "lata tc!" at the end).

[QUOTE="Uptown"]

PlayStation 3's current lifecycle: 9 Months. Do you remember what 360 fans were hyping 9 months into its lifecycle? Lost Planet, Dead Rising, Saint's Row.....

Newnab

I remember we had AAA's 9 months into 360's lifecycle.

The three I listed were listed because they're recent. The thread is about PS3 fans bashing 360 games and, well, I don't think anyone is going back and bashing Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 1, are they? The three games I listed (along with a note saying "And a whole host of others", incase you missed it) were listed because they're still at the forefront of everyone's minds.

Nice spin on things by focusing on the small deliberately recent selection I highlighted, but, I'm afraid you're going to have to do a lot better than that sir. Even if your little buddies are already jumping in with the "/threads" and the "owned" very prematurely.

[QUOTE="Newnab"]I remember we had AAA's 9 months into 360's lifecycle.blitzcloud

Why does competition matter? Great games are great games and Gamespot's review system doesn't translate across all systems. If it did, all Wii games would score like **** for having bad graphics.

[QUOTE="Uptown"]

What makes me and other PS3 fans more comfortable is the fact that out of all 3 games you mentioned.....

Gears of War Released 12 Months into 360's lifecycle.

Forza Motorsport 2 Released 18 Months into 360's lifecycle.

BioShock Released 21 Months into 360's lifecycle.

PlayStation 3's current lifecycle: 9 Months.

stvee101

LMAO! The TC self-owned himself

:lol: what the hell?

The whole argument sunk there XD

Well it's rather a shame that you choose to hide behind such a weak arguement as "Those deliberately recent games you listed are recent! OWNED!" but I guess I can't expect any better from the likes of you lot. Oh well.

As for Gears and Bioshock being multiplat: Yes, I fully understand. This thread is about a straight up comparison between the PS3 and 360 though, and in that respect, exclusively Xbox 360 gamers can play many superb games that exclusively PS3 owners cannot.

I also like how everyone assumes the Xbox 360 is going to stop getting AAA games for a year and let the PS3 catch up one day. XD. Oh me oh my.

What makes me and other PS3 fans more comfortable is the fact that out of all 3 games you mentioned.....

Gears of War Released 12 Months into 360's lifecycle.

Forza Motorsport 2 Released 18 Months into 360's lifecycle.

BioShock Released 21 Months into 360's lifecycle.

PlayStation 3's current lifecycle: 9 Months. Do you remember what 360 fans were hyping 9 months into its lifecycle? Lost Planet, Dead Rising, Saint's Row.....

Uptown

lol TC owned.

Nope, we don't! Your opinion. I like lots of PS3 games and I don't give a crap about those 360 games cause I have plenty to play on my PS3. Ya I played Halo 1 and 2 BFD! What will you 360 gamers have after Halo 3 better than KZ 2 and MGS 4. I owned a 360 and it is a flawed system. It failed the HDD followed by freezing, then 3 red lights. Got a new 1 from MS and it froze so I Ebayed it and got a second PS3. Plenty of great games on PS3 so who gives a crap about what's on 360?????:roll:casey7672

You ebayed a broken Xbox 360? That's quite evil if you didn't tell the buyer it was broken...

[QUOTE="Uptown"]

What makes me and other PS3 fans more comfortable is the fact that out of all 3 games you mentioned.....

Gears of War Released 12 Months into 360's lifecycle.

Forza Motorsport 2 Released 18 Months into 360's lifecycle.

BioShock Released 21 Months into 360's lifecycle.

PlayStation 3's current lifecycle: 9 Months.

stvee101

LMAO! The TC self-owned himself

[QUOTE="Uptown"]

PlayStation 3's current lifecycle: 9 Months. Do you remember what 360 fans were hyping 9 months into its lifecycle? Lost Planet, Dead Rising, Saint's Row.....

Newnab

I remember we had AAA's 9 months into 360's lifecycle.

The three I listed were listed because they're recent. The thread is about PS3 fans bashing 360 games and, well, I don't think anyone is going back and bashing Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 1, are they? The three games I listed (along with a note saying "And a whole host of others", incase you missed it) were listed because they're still at the forefront of everyone's minds.

Nice spin on things by focusing on the small deliberately recent selection I highlighted, but, I'm afraid you're going to have to do a lot better than that sir. Even if your little buddies are already jumping in with the "/threads" and the "owned" very prematurely.

I get sick of saying this on a daily basis... AAA games aren't always enjoyable. Just because somenerd GS reviewer gave a game a 9.5 doesn't mean you, or me, or anyother random person are going to enjoy the game. I've played plenty of AAAs that I didn't like. Final Fantasy? I wouldn't touch those games. Freedom Figthers? It was fun for about an hour. Frankly, I'll take a game like RB6: Vegas over Halo any day. Just because a game is AAA doesn't mean it's any fun for any given gamer.

Well it's rather a shame that you choose to hide behind such a weak arguement as "Those deliberately recent games you listed are recent! OWNED!" but I guess I can't expect any better from the likes of you lot. Oh well.

As for Gears and Bioshock being multiplat: Yes, I fully understand. This thread is about a straight up comparison between the PS3 and 360 though, and in that respect, exclusively Xbox 360 gamers can play many superb games that exclusively PS3 owners cannot.

I also like how everyone assumes the Xbox 360 is going to stop getting AAA games for a year and let the PS3 catch up one day. XD. Oh me oh my.

Newnab

[QUOTE="blitzinger123"][QUOTE="Uptown"]

What makes me and other PS3 fans more comfortable is the fact that out of all 3 games you mentioned.....

Gears of War Released 12 Months into 360's lifecycle.

Forza Motorsport 2 Released 18 Months into 360's lifecycle.

BioShock Released 21 Months into 360's lifecycle.

PlayStation 3's current lifecycle: 9 Months. Do you remember what 360 fans were hyping 9 months into its lifecycle? Lost Planet, Dead Rising, Saint's Row.....

MGS9150

What "awesome" games are coming out on PS3 within the next 3 months? OH! WAIT A MINUTE! Haze and UT3 exclusiveness? LATA TC

Bioshock and Gears arnt excusive either, they are both on the PC and PS3 is getting Haze timed exclusive and UT 3 console timed excusive. Its also getting, Heavenly sword, Uncharted drakes fortune, Ratchet and clank future, lair and Warhawk which came out yesterday.

So Bioshock doesn't count for 360, but UT3 does for PS3. Something doesn't make sense...I think it's your logic.

And don't even get me started on Gears. It was exclusive when it launched and it still is timed exclusive. Where else can you play gears today?

I bet in 4 years PS3 will have better games... and xbox will start to develop a new console... in that time I will still play PC with no need for a long line of fanboys to get a piece of hardware :) and will play much better games :D portujoel5

4 years? More like they've already made the new console(Elite) and better games are within the year. But They'll still have to make another new 1 that support higher capacity discs and HD DVD and doesn't fail. That's if thedrones at MS can figure out why the 360 keeps failing.

dude, why didn't you just say that the 360's exclusive launch lineup is better than the ps3's exclusive lineup even up to today?CaseyWegner

If I could turn back time I'd probably word it a bit better, yeah... Heh.

[QUOTE="blitzinger123"][QUOTE="Uptown"]

What makes me and other PS3 fans more comfortable is the fact that out of all 3 games you mentioned.....

Gears of War Released 12 Months into 360's lifecycle.

Forza Motorsport 2 Released 18 Months into 360's lifecycle.

BioShock Released 21 Months into 360's lifecycle.

PlayStation 3's current lifecycle: 9 Months. Do you remember what 360 fans were hyping 9 months into its lifecycle? Lost Planet, Dead Rising, Saint's Row.....

MGS9150

What "awesome" games are coming out on PS3 within the next 3 months? OH! WAIT A MINUTE! Haze and UT3 exclusiveness? LATA TC

Bioshock and Gears arnt excusive either, they are both on the PC and PS3 is getting Haze timed exclusive and UT 3 console timed excusive. Its also getting, Heavenly sword, Uncharted drakes fortune, Ratchet and clank future, lair and Warhawk which came out yesterday.

bioshock and gears are console exclusives

[QUOTE="portujoel5"]I bet in 4 years PS3 will have better games... and xbox will start to develop a new console... in that time I will still play PC with no need for a long line of fanboys to get a piece of hardware :) and will play much better games :D casey7672

4 years? More like they've already made the new console(Elite) and better games are within the year. But They'll still have to make another new 1 that support higher capacity discs and HD DVD and doesn't fail. That's if thedrones at MS can figure out why the 360 keeps failing.

I didn't know XBOX 360s where failin :) not much informed about the consoles now that I'm powering my PC, and sold my PS2 for fuel :D

[QUOTE="MGS9150"][QUOTE="blitzinger123"][QUOTE="Uptown"]

What makes me and other PS3 fans more comfortable is the fact that out of all 3 games you mentioned.....

Gears of War Released 12 Months into 360's lifecycle.

Forza Motorsport 2 Released 18 Months into 360's lifecycle.

BioShock Released 21 Months into 360's lifecycle.

PlayStation 3's current lifecycle: 9 Months. Do you remember what 360 fans were hyping 9 months into its lifecycle? Lost Planet, Dead Rising, Saint's Row.....

wiistation360

What "awesome" games are coming out on PS3 within the next 3 months? OH! WAIT A MINUTE! Haze and UT3 exclusiveness? LATA TC

Bioshock and Gears arnt excusive either, they are both on the PC and PS3 is getting Haze timed exclusive and UT 3 console timed excusive. Its also getting, Heavenly sword, Uncharted drakes fortune, Ratchet and clank future, lair and Warhawk which came out yesterday.

bioshock and gears are console exclusives

I've played Bioshock on PC... and gears is comming to pc... so what do you mean?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]dude, why didn't you just say that the 360's exclusive launch lineup is better than the ps3's exclusive lineup even up to today?Newnab

If I could turn back time I'd probably word it a bit better, yeah... Heh.

This lack of games you say the PS3 has.....I seem to remember the 360 starting out slow for a while after it launched. Or maybe when I owned a 360 last summer until this summer I was going into stores and such and imagining the lackluster game library:roll:

[QUOTE="Newnab"]

Well it's rather a shame that you choose to hide behind such a weak arguement as "Those deliberately recent games you listed are recent! OWNED!" but I guess I can't expect any better from the likes of you lot. Oh well.

As for Gears and Bioshock being multiplat: Yes, I fully understand. This thread is about a straight up comparison between the PS3 and 360 though, and in that respect, exclusively Xbox 360 gamers can play many superb games that exclusively PS3 owners cannot.

I also like how everyone assumes the Xbox 360 is going to stop getting AAA games for a year and let the PS3 catch up one day. XD. Oh me oh my.

organic_machine

Yea, and the PS3 doesn't have ANY good exclusives :roll: You fanboys are so weak. With your argument, I can laugh at you and tell you the PC ownz all consoles. But I wont, because that would be dumb. and so it your argument.

The PS3 doesn't have any superb by System Wars standard exclusives, correct?

As far as PC is concerned, if it were even to be considered in this (Which I guess it can, if we do something like... Count games that've launched on PC since Xbox 360's launch date) then I think the Xbox 360 and PC are very close in terms of quality of games. PC fans will have my guts for that but I think it's fair to say that the 360 has (and the PS3 will probably be capable of) keeping up with PC's in terms of what games they can handle (as evidenced by things like Half Life 2: Orange Box). PC has a few more exclusives based on things like controls just basically requiring a keyboard to be fun and the like, but when I made this thread it was only my intention to compare PS3 and 360, the two newest consoles that're still trying to do the "traditional" way of gaming, as it were, and trying to be "powerhouses".

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]dude, why didn't you just say that the 360's exclusive launch lineup is better than the ps3's exclusive lineup even up to today?Newnab

If I could turn back time I'd probably word it a bit better, yeah... Heh.

You're trying to make your argument clear and blunt but it wont work. There's a time frame comparison that needs to be taken into check. But owning a system (which 360 are you on?) that has a 66% chance of breaking doesnt help matters any.

I used to own a 360 and hyped up a lot of games (including gears) and my 360 broke. I sent it in, got another, it broke. I sent it in, got another and it started scratching my discs so I ebayed it. That guy sent it in (I told him there were problems w/ scratching before auction was over so it was mutual understanding.) He e-mailed me and told me it had stopped functioning all together. Then he sent it in (this was like 2 days after the warranty extension was announced) and he got it back and so far so good. But you dont hear about that for ps3. Why? Because PS3 wasnt rushed to beat competition. Thats what you'll come to see from Sony. They're not rushing out games or forcing 3rd party companys to rush out games. Just going to gradually have everyone get used to making the ps3 games, get an understanding and once the power is fully utilized, I think PS3 will start to topple 360.

[QUOTE="blitzcloud"][QUOTE="Newnab"]I remember we had AAA's 9 months into 360's lifecycle.Newnab

Why does competition matter? Great games are great games and Gamespot's review system doesn't translate across all systems. If it did, all Wii games would score like **** for having bad graphics.

Let me preface this by saying that I'm not calling you stupid (I don't want Casey blindly swinging the Ban hammer because someone can't tell when they are being called stupid and their statment is being called stupid). I'll reserve judgement for the time being on whether or not you are technically stuipid yourself.

With that out of the way, asking what competition matters is a stupid question. If Xbox360 has no other console against which to compare the games, it is going to have an enormous bearing on the scores of their games. GTA III, for example, scored higher than San Andreas. Does that mean GTA III (some would argue that it is) was a better game than San Andreas? Of course not. There was nothingyou could compare GTA IIIagainst. If San Andreas and GTA III had been released at the same time, by different companies, which would have scored higher?

[QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="Newnab"]

Well it's rather a shame that you choose to hide behind such a weak arguement as "Those deliberately recent games you listed are recent! OWNED!" but I guess I can't expect any better from the likes of you lot. Oh well.

As for Gears and Bioshock being multiplat: Yes, I fully understand. This thread is about a straight up comparison between the PS3 and 360 though, and in that respect, exclusively Xbox 360 gamers can play many superb games that exclusively PS3 owners cannot.

I also like how everyone assumes the Xbox 360 is going to stop getting AAA games for a year and let the PS3 catch up one day. XD. Oh me oh my.

Newnab

Yea, and the PS3 doesn't have ANY good exclusives :roll: You fanboys are so weak. With your argument, I can laugh at you and tell you the PC ownz all consoles. But I wont, because that would be dumb. and so it your argument.

The PS3 doesn't have any superb by System Wars standard exclusives, correct?

As far as PC is concerned, if it were even to be considered in this (Which I guess it can, if we do something like... Count games that've launched on PC since Xbox 360's launch date) then I think the Xbox 360 and PC are very close in terms of quality of games. PC fans will have my guts for that but I think it's fair to say that the 360 has (and the PS3 will probably be capable of) keeping up with PC's in terms of what games they can handle (as evidenced by things like Half Life 2: Orange Box). PC has a few more exclusives based on things like controls just basically requiring a keyboard to be fun and the like, but when I made this thread it was only my intention to compare PS3 and 360, the two newest consoles that're still trying to do the "traditional" way of gaming, as it were, and trying to be "powerhouses".

UT 3 for ps3 will support keyboard and mouse. This could lead to more FPS for ps3 to support keyboard and mouse. But I am buying a small table and wireless keyboard and mouse just for this game on my ps3.

You have no games (that Xbox 360 owners can't already play) that're better than Bioshock, Gears, Forza 2, and a whole host of other games that've done better across the board.

Maybe in the future, maybe when LBP comes out or when MGS4 comes out or whatever... But for now, you just don't. Your console lacks superb games.

If you want anyone at all to have any respect left for you by the time you DO get a superb game, it would be advisable to not embarass yourselves by trying to "own" or bash the games that quite clearly show your console up as pathetic and have done since it's launch.

Newnab

So far I have Motorstorm, Oblivion, Resistance, Rainbow Six Vegas,Warhawk, nad my PS2 games which look better on PS3. Next I will have Heavenly Sword and and Rachet and Clank....so I'd say I'm doing alright to be honest.

Yea, and the PS3 doesn't have ANY good exclusives :roll: You fanboys are so weak. With your argument, I can laugh at you and tell you the PC ownz all consoles. But I wont, because that would be dumb. and so it your argument.

The PS3 doesn't have any superb by System Wars standard exclusives, correct?

As far as PC is concerned, if it were even to be considered in this (Which I guess it can, if we do something like... Count games that've launched on PC since Xbox 360's launch date) then I think the Xbox 360 and PC are very close in terms of quality of games. PC fans will have my guts for that but I think it's fair to say that the 360 has (and the PS3 will probably be capable of) keeping up with PC's in terms of what games they can handle (as evidenced by things like Half Life 2: Orange Box). PC has a few more exclusives based on things like controls just basically requiring a keyboard to be fun and the like, but when I made this thread it was only my intention to compare PS3 and 360, the two newest consoles that're still trying to do the "traditional" way of gaming, as it were, and trying to be "powerhouses".

What are these 'System Wars standards' of which you speak? I didn't see a Sticky anywhere establishing any standards for these forums. This isn't baseball. As far as I knew, there were no unwritten rules to system wars. Care to enlighten us as to your particular standards, as I guarantee yours and mine will differ wildly?

[QUOTE="Newnab"]

[QUOTE="blitzcloud"][QUOTE="Newnab"]I remember we had AAA's 9 months into 360's lifecycle.bforrester

Why does competition matter? Great games are great games and Gamespot's review system doesn't translate across all systems. If it did, all Wii games would score like **** for having bad graphics.

Let me preface this by saying that I'm not calling you stupid (I don't want Casey blindly swinging the Ban hammer because someone can't tell when they are being called stupid and their statment is being called stupid). I'll reserve judgement for the time being on whether or not you are technically stuipid yourself.

With that out of the way, asking what competition matters is a stupid question. If Xbox360 has no other console against which to compare the games, it is going to have an enormous bearing on the scores of their games. GTA III, for example, scored higher than San Andreas. Does that mean GTA III (some would argue that it is) was a better game than San Andreas? Of course not. There was nothingyou could compare GTA IIIagainst. If San Andreas and GTA III had been released at the same time, by different companies, which would have scored higher?

That's about standards changing over time, NOT about competition.

What are these 'System Wars standards' of which you speak? I didn't see a Sticky anywhere establishing any standards for these forums. This isn't baseball. As far as I knew, there were no unwritten rules to system wars. Care to enlighten us as to your particular standards, as I guarantee yours and mine will differ wildly?

bforrester

there's a stickied system wars information thread.