PS3 FFXIII superior thanks to Blu-ray

[QUOTE="UnnDunn"]MGS4 also had several massive installs to get around the loading times. I wouldn't be surprised if FF13 does use a DL BD, but I also won't be surprised if it uses a stealth install to help with load times.

Chutebox

It would be something if there were no loading screens. They could always do what Bayonetta is doing.

Add mini games or a training level.

Im leaving this thread, Rza_rectah, WilliamRLBaker, and Chutebox have made me slip into depression! Thanks guys :P Seriously, thanks guys, i might try an easier JRPG to get up to snuff with them, any suggestions?navyguy21

Try Chrono Trigger. There's very little extra grind required for the game (just the usual progression will have you at a sufficient level), battles aren't random and the battle system is deep but still pretty straight forward. Plus not to mention it's one of the best games ever.

i find it amusing that anyone at all is still interested in this game now that it is multiplat... it's out in a few months and all the hype is dead and everyone i know isn't even considering buying it... do you all want another star-wars rip-off rpg? i mean seriously... ME2 is coming out soon and obviously looks sooo much better anyways.

to each their own i guess.. ff hasn't been good for about a decade though imho and this one looks super lame..

3picuri3

What about it is a "star-wars rip off?"

Why are you comparing a WRPG with a JRPG?

Why does it look super lame?

FFXIII shouldn't be grind heavy; there are no numbered levels and "leveling" is linked to story progress, so you can't just battle your way to super strength early on in the game.

"Square enix has apparently revealed that the 360 version of its latest RPG epic, Final Fantasy XIII, will feature compressed audio and video, presumably to help squeeze its considerable heft onto the DVD format."

Really now, compressed a/v for a dvd9. Who would have thought of that? :P

That site must be horribly desperate to get new headlines.

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

i find it amusing that anyone at all is still interested in this game now that it is multiplat... it's out in a few months and all the hype is dead and everyone i know isn't even considering buying it... do you all want another star-wars rip-off rpg? i mean seriously... ME2 is coming out soon and obviously looks sooo much better anyways.

to each their own i guess.. ff hasn't been good for about a decade though imho and this one looks super lame..

Rza_rectah

i find it amusing that anyone at all is still interested in this game now that it is multiplat... it's out in a few months and all the hype is dead and everyone i know isn't even considering buying it... do you all want another star-wars rip-off rpg? i mean seriously... ME2 is coming out soon and obviously looks sooo much better anyways.

to each their own i guess.. ff hasn't been good for about a decade though imho and this one looks super lame..

3picuri3

Only obviously better to you. I dislike Western Rpgs very much so for me FF13 > ME2 x 1000000.

FFXIII shouldn't be grind heavy; there are no numbered levels and "leveling" is linked to story progress, so you can't just battle your way to super strength early on in the game.

hakanakumono

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

i find it amusing that anyone at all is still interested in this game now that it is multiplat... it's out in a few months and all the hype is dead and everyone i know isn't even considering buying it... do you all want another star-wars rip-off rpg? i mean seriously... ME2 is coming out soon and obviously looks sooo much better anyways.

to each their own i guess.. ff hasn't been good for about a decade though imho and this one looks super lame..

Eggimannd

Only obviously better to you. I dislike Western Rpgs very much so for me FF13 > ME2 x 1000000.

Welcome to SW..where unique and thoughtful threads get ignored in favor of the same 50 tired ass topics posted on a day to day basis.

Welcome to SW..where unique and thoughtful threads get ignored in favor of the same 50 tired ass topics posted on a day to day basis.

Kandlegoat

[QUOTE="Kandlegoat"]

Welcome to SW..where unique and thoughtful threads get ignored in favor of the same 50 tired ass topics posted on a day to day basis.

3picuri3

This thread is actually what I meant when I said "same 50 tired ass topics" ;)

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Kandlegoat"]

Welcome to SW..where unique and thoughtful threads get ignored in favor of the same 50 tired ass topics posted on a day to day basis.

Kandlegoat

This thread is actually what I meant when I said "same 50 tired ass topics" ;)

[QUOTE="Eggimannd"]

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

i find it amusing that anyone at all is still interested in this game now that it is multiplat... it's out in a few months and all the hype is dead and everyone i know isn't even considering buying it... do you all want another star-wars rip-off rpg? i mean seriously... ME2 is coming out soon and obviously looks sooo much better anyways.

to each their own i guess.. ff hasn't been good for about a decade though imho and this one looks super lame..

3picuri3

Only obviously better to you. I dislike Western Rpgs very much so for me FF13 > ME2 x 1000000.

What WRPGs are you speaking of out of curiousity? I assumed the big WRPGs sell big numbers the same way the big JRPGs sell big numbers. Though I'm not sure what WRPG this gen is going to touch DQ9's sales. (or even wants to compete with pokemon lol)

Actually on second thought, maybe Diablo?

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Eggimannd"]

Only obviously better to you. I dislike Western Rpgs very much so for me FF13 > ME2 x 1000000.

ActicEdge

What WRPGs are you speaking of out of curiousity? I assumed the big WRPGs sell big numbers the same way the big JRPGs sell big numbers. Though I'm not sure what WRPG this gen is going to touch DQ9's sales. (or even wants to compete with pokemon lol)

Actually on second thought, maybe Diablo?

Who cares? 360 owners should just be glad were getting it, since it was supposed to be PS3 exclusive.

For me, playing it with slightly lower quality audio and video (don't really care, I don't even have an HDTV :P ) on multiple disks is way better not playing it, or dropping $300 to get a PS3.

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Dont listen to anyone! :P.. i seriously advice you to start with FFXIII as your first JRPG assuming u never played any.. OR you can try White Knight Chronicles which has great classic story in it.. im so buying them all!! :P im a huge JRPG fan

It would be something if there were no loading screens. They could always do what Bayonetta is doing.

Add mini games or a training level.

gamingqueen

Square Enix confirmed it that ps3 version will have ZERO loading screens so no worries

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]Im leaving this thread, Rza_rectah, WilliamRLBaker, and Chutebox have made me slip into depression! Thanks guys :P Seriously, thanks guys, i might try an easier JRPG to get up to snuff with them, any suggestions?Kandlegoat

Dont listen to anyone! :P.. i seriously advice you to start with FFXIII as your first JRPG assuming u never played any.. OR you can try White Knight Chronicles which has great classic story in it.. im so buying them all!! :P im a huge JRPG fan

Who talks like this?

What do you mean? :?

[QUOTE="Kandlegoat"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Dont listen to anyone! :P.. i seriously advice you to start with FFXIII as your first JRPG assuming u never played any.. OR you can try White Knight Chronicles which has great classic story in it.. im so buying them all!! :P im a huge JRPG fan

finalstar2007

Who talks like this?

What do you mean? :?

oh nothing..I wasnt syaing anything bad.

Final Fantasy 4 eva!!

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

[QUOTE="Kandlegoat"]

Who talks like this?

Kandlegoat

What do you mean? :?

oh nothing..I wasnt syaing anything bad.

Final Fantasy 4 eva!!

I'm playing it right now. (DS version) I like it (its friggin difficult though). I find the cast really likable so I think that part of it. The story is kinda non sense but the presentation is ace.

[QUOTE="Kandlegoat"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

What do you mean? :?

ActicEdge

oh nothing..I wasnt syaing anything bad.

Final Fantasy 4 eva!!

I'm playing it right now. (DS version) I like it (its friggin difficult though). I find the cast really likable so I think that part of it. The story is kinda non sense but the presentation is ace.

I really don't like the look of the remake...I prefer the original..I might buy to try one day though..if I have spare cash...or if something happens to my copy of the GBA port

Funny thing is, it will probably score nearly identical to the 360 versionWaffle_Fish

yeah and god forbid if that happens....

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Kandlegoat"]

oh nothing..I wasnt syaing anything bad.

Final Fantasy 4 eva!!

Kandlegoat

I'm playing it right now. (DS version) I like it (its friggin difficult though). I find the cast really likable so I think that part of it. The story is kinda non sense but the presentation is ace.

I really don't like the look of the remake...I prefer the original..I might buy to try one day though..if I have spare cash...or if something happens to my copy of the GBA port

i quite like it. It actually looks alot better (to me anyway) than people give it credit for. Lots of improvements in over the FF3 DS engine like lighting and shadows during cut scenes. If you hate DS 3D, you won't like it. I don't mind it though so I was fine. I also am always impressed by the solid amount of detail Matrix puts into the environments. They do the world complete justice in my eyes. I would suggest it if you find it for cheap. VA isn't too bad either (except Kain's sucks pretty bad)

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="UnnDunn"]Sure, that's what they say. But what they probably mean is that the PS3 doesn't do any additional compression to the audio as it is being sent out through the audio output. But I guarantee you, the audio is compressed in memory. There simply isn't enough available memory in either of these machines to afford wasting it on uncompressed audio. Period.

navyguy21

It will be superior on 360.

slipknot0129

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

It will be superior on 360.

MetalGearSolidZ

I don't mind. At least it's coming out for 360. lol

So nothing really noticeable than? I know I won't be able to tell the difference on my hardware.

Psyched for this game though.

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] I just don't understand why memory is needed for uncompressed or any audio..?rogelio22

Im leaving this thread, Rza_rectah, WilliamRLBaker, and Chutebox have made me slip into depression! Thanks guys :P Seriously, thanks guys, i might try an easier JRPG to get up to snuff with them, any suggestions?navyguy21

I find in most of these JRPG's that grinding isn't needed, as long as you simply stay in all the fights you get in. I would have suggested Final Fantasy 10, but the sphere grid would be WAY too intimidating to a JRPG n00b. Final Fantasy 7s materia system is VERY easy to use and understand. The battle system is stright forward, turn based system. Music is just awesome, seriously great.

But I may be a bit biased, if there was one game I could could say in all honesty has ZERO flaws with it, I would say FF7. I've beaten it nearly 30 times, finishing the extra bosses every time. I just love the game...lol. Anyways, FF7 is easy to get into, the materia system is easy to understand and use...even abuse if you can find the right combinations, ailments are fairly straight forward and easy to cure...lol I could go on forever about the greatness of FF7....seriously, just play it.

The one problem with a lot of Final Fantasies is they ALWAYS split you team up and force you to play with low level characters. This is where most grinding comes in, you HAVE to level up all characters. The characters not in you party gain a small percentage of the exp, but nothing worth noteing. Whta I would usually do is elave it till the last minute then bring 1 in for a few fights and gain them 10 levels(tougher enemies yield more exp, lower levels require less exp) then put them behind.

Another GREAT JRPG from the PSX era is Legend of Dragoon, I HIGHLY recommend this one as well. I would LOVE to see a sequal. You couls also try Kingdom Hearts, but this is more of an action RPG.

Now for being on topic. FF13 has NOTHING on FFvs13. so it doesn't matter which version of 13 is better cause vs13 will be the better game.

[QUOTE="rogelio22"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"] Because it has to be stored like everything else, and the consoles only have 512MB of ram, you cant really afford to dedicate 25 - 50MB of uncompressed audio.........just doesnt make sense on a console....let alone on a high end PC

navyguy21

Then thats why the Japanese article says that the audio and video are at different "compression rates" (or something along those lines) instead of one having compression and the other not having it at all.

Of course people mistranslated the article, willfully.

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="rogelio22"] uhm??? havent you ever heard of streaming audio straight off of the uncompressed disc??? like regular cd players have done for years!!! also sorry if someone already mention this but had to skip through the rest of the posts to mention this to him

hakanakumono

Then thats why the Japanese article says that the audio and video are at different "compression rates" (or something along those lines) instead of one having compression and the other not having it at all.

Of course people mistranslated the article, willfully.

I don't mind. At least it's coming out for 360. lol

cloudff7tm

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]

i wish i knew how to play JRPGs :cry:

bez2083

I wished I liked them:P

Does Shenmue 1 & 2 count as JRPG's, because those were fun..........

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]lol, it seems you have no idea how game development works. CDs can afford to do it because thats all thats being loaded..........and most CD players have some sort of anti-skip protection, and guess what that is? Yes, it preloads the music into an internal cache, so its still stored somewhere dude. Gaming is different because you have to load game assets, process physics, animations, and a host of other stuff. This is why almost everyting on consoles have to be compressed, no matter if you are on bluray or not.xX-Incubus-Xx

Then thats why the Japanese article says that the audio and video are at different "compression rates" (or something along those lines) instead of one having compression and the other not having it at all.

Of course people mistranslated the article, willfully.

No, that's absurd. Each multidisc Final Fantasy game has always had the entire game on each disc. The only difference is the FMV and Audio on each respective disc. Final Fantasy XIII will be the same game it was always meant to be; 360 owners just have to switch discs to watch the FMV and listen to the voices present in the game. The only reason Star Ocean 4 had crazy disc changing requirements was because it was, quite frankly, poorly made. There's no way that the 360 ver could affect the story, because it was already set in stone before it was announced for the PS3. They were even going to make it for PS2, before it became to late and they had to move to PS3. What's more, if the 360 ver really had any influence over the 360 ver, the PS3 ver would not be released in Japan until a 360 ver was completed.

[QUOTE="xX-Incubus-Xx"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Then thats why the Japanese article says that the audio and video are at different "compression rates" (or something along those lines) instead of one having compression and the other not having it at all.

Of course people mistranslated the article, willfully.

hakanakumono

No, that's absurd. Each multidisc Final Fantasy game has always had the entire game on each disc. The only difference is the FMV and Audio on each respective disc. Final Fantasy XIII will be the same game it was always meant to be; 360 owners just have to switch discs to watch the FMV and listen to the voices present in the game. The only reason Star Ocean 4 had crazy disc changing requirements was because it was, quite frankly, poorly made. There's no way that the 360 ver could affect the story, because it was already set in stone before it was announced for the PS3. They were even going to make it for PS2, before it became to late and they had to move to PS3. What's more, if the 360 ver really had any influence over the 360 ver, the PS3 ver would not be released in Japan until a 360 ver was completed.