Ps3 going beyond Pc's capabilities?

According to

this article, the Ps3 can work marvels.

"The PS3 rendition of Pandemic's The Saboteur is different though. It's special. It's trying something new that's never been seen before on console, or indeed PC, and its results are terrific. In a best-case scenario you get edge-smoothing that is beyond the effect of 16x multi-sampling anti-aliasing, effectively delivering an effect better than the capabilities of high-end GPUs without crippling performance. Compare and contrast with Xbox 360 hardware, which tops out at 4x MSAA."

This is either BS because if that was true, 1st party devs should be able to make games that outperform anything on Pc, or it is the truth, making people scream "what a shame!" due to the fact that no one has really showed what the Cell is really capable of in outperforming even high-end gaming rigs.

what's your take? I tend to believe that it's just the ability of great devs such as Naughty Dog and Santa Monica that are able to find the right compromises in order to make their titles look so good, still not good enough to beat out games like Crysis.

another interesting article about the use of the SPUs

It says that Pandemic tried out a new kind of AA on PS3 first.

I'll believe it when I see it. Some images would be nice.

I'm sure someone posted a link of the beyond3D forum where they explained why the 360 GPU is stronger than the PS3's and how important the role of the Spu's is

So a new AA rendering technique makes the PS3 more powerful than a PC? Oh dear, they need to investigate the term 'power' a little more.

Granted the PS3 is able to blurrify the graphics to give the impression of decent AA at a huge loss in IQ but I thought this was old news?

It says that Pandemic tried out a new kind of AA on PS3 first.

Mograine

This reminds me of N64's motion blur which was possible before the Voodoo 5 came out :P

Both weren't motion blur as we know it today, though.

So a new AA rendering technique makes the PS3 more powerful than a PC? Oh dear, they need to investigate the term 'power' a little more.

Granted the PS3 is able to blurrify the graphics to give the impression of decent AA at a huge loss in IQ but I thought this was old news?

1080pOnly

I'm sure someone posted a link of the beyond3D forum where they explained why the 360 GPU is stronger than the PS3's and how important the role of the Spu's is

italygamer

[QUOTE="italygamer"]

I'm sure someone posted a link of the beyond3D forum where they explained why the 360 GPU is stronger than the PS3's and how important the role of the Spu's is

Metroid_Other_M

does anyone have the link of beyond3D where they do the GPU comparisons and explain the importance of the SPE'S?

Hahahahaha, oh man, that was a good laugh.

well as long as people believe it, I guess they will keep saying it. What it actually is though, is a fancy way of saying they came up with a new aa method for the ps3 since the traditional one doesnt work well on the hardware. The blur aa isnt exactly that great, I think I might prefer jaggies.

So a new AA rendering technique makes the PS3 more powerful than a PC? Oh dear, they need to investigate the term 'power' a little more.

Granted the PS3 is able to blurrify the graphics to give the impression of decent AA at a huge loss in IQ but I thought this was old news?

1080pOnly

My PS3 out performs my PC? Then why are all the games low res,with poor textures and a horrible framerate?

Sony lie all the time

1080p @ 120fps

HAHA oh wow

So teh Cell had hidden powa to be tapped all along. Who knew 2006 technology would be better than 2010 technology?

Teh cell.

MLAA is only 16xAA anyways, it can't beat PC's 24xAA and 32xAA.

So teh Cell had hidden powa to be tapped all along. Who knew 2006 technology would be better than 2010 technology?

Mystic-G

Sony man ... Sony.

So teh Cell had hidden powa to be tapped all along. Who knew 2006 technology would be better than 2010 technology?

Mystic-G

Yeah its true

Cell died and came back stronger

Super perfect cell ya know?

[QUOTE="Metroid_Other_M"][QUOTE="italygamer"]

I'm sure someone posted a link of the beyond3D forum where they explained why the 360 GPU is stronger than the PS3's and how important the role of the Spu's is

italygamer

The Saboteur or what ever doesn't really use the real technique....for sure God Of War 3 does..and it is a sight to be hold...

upcoming games that will also use it are...

UnderSiege, RTS game that will have MLAA at 720p or 1080p no AA

LittleBigPlanet 2 will have MLAA

and mini games from the Move game "Start The Party" uses MLAA

I'm sure Killzone 3, Starhawk, Uncharted 3, Resistance 3, and maybe MLB The Show will use it as well.

the good thing about this technique is that it frees up other resourses....so kinda gives you extra processing for other effects in the game being developed

Right....considering one graphics card for the PC is MORE powerful than all the consoles combined in history:

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=13883

Yet it will somehow ***magically*** outperform the PC. LMAO.

Right....considering one graphics card for the PC is MORE powerful than all the consoles combined in history:

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=13883

Yet it will somehow ***magically*** outperform the PC. LMAO.

Xtasy26

I would never use 16xAA or its too much of a hit on graphics cards for my liking, plus imo its not needed. Most the most part I'm fine with 8xMSAA or 8xCSAA.

The Saboteur or what ever doesn't really use the real technique....for sure God Of War 3 does..and it is a sight to be hold...

upcoming games that will also use it are...

UnderSiege, RTS game that will have MLAA at 720p or 1080p no AA

LittleBigPlanet 2 will have MLAA

and mini games from the Move game "Start The Party" uses MLAA

I'm sure Killzone 3, Starhawk, Uncharted 3, Resistance 3, and maybe MLB The Show will use it as well.

the good thing about this technique is that it frees up other resourses....so kinda gives you extra processing for other effects in the game being developed

Afrikanxl

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

Right....considering one graphics card for the PC is MORE powerful than all the consoles combined in history:

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=13883

Yet it will somehow ***magically*** outperform the PC. LMAO.

bloodlust_101

You can do MLAA on PC CPU, if you don't mind using a few spare cores. In fact it was originally developed by Intel for CPU's. It just happens to be something the SPU's are really good at, and GPU's aren't.

while true, mlaa isnt really like 16xaa, 4xaa does a better job than mlaa.TerrorRizzing

[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"][QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

Right....considering one graphics card for the PC is MORE powerful than all the consoles combined in history:

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=13883

Yet it will somehow ***magically*** outperform the PC. LMAO.

TerrorRizzing

True that.

[QUOTE="TerrorRizzing"]while true, mlaa isnt really like 16xaa, 4xaa does a better job than mlaa.Teufelhuhn

I dunno about you but I play my games in motion. So yea, MSAA is definitely the better man here.

Well the only game I have played that uses MLAA is God of War 3 and that game looks amazing. I usually dont use much AA in my games 4X-8XAA for me, I dont really notice much jaggies at 1080p.

Well the only game I have played that uses MLAA is God of War 3 and that game looks amazing. I usually dont use much AA in my games 4X-8XAA for me, I dont really notice much jaggies at 1080p.

GTSaiyanjin2

Not this crap again, i dont feel like explaining how many flaws and limitations MLAA has again, so just leave it as: No. Also metro 2033's Analytical Anti-aliasing is extremely similar to MLAA and accomplishes about same yet you dont see anyone saying that it is some almighty anit aliasing solution.ferret-gamer

Impossible. Without the Cell Metro's Anti-Aliasing technique is just subpar.

According to

this article, the Ps3 can work marvels.

"The PS3 rendition of Pandemic's The Saboteur is different though. It's special. It's trying something new that's never been seen before on console, or indeed PC, and its results are terrific. In a best-case scenario you get edge-smoothing that is beyond the effect of 16x multi-sampling anti-aliasing, effectively delivering an effect better than the capabilities of high-end GPUs without crippling performance. Compare and contrast with Xbox 360 hardware, which tops out at 4x MSAA."

This is either BS because if that was true, 1st party devs should be able to make games that outperform anything on Pc, or it is the truth, making people scream "what a shame!" due to the fact that no one has really showed what the Cell is really capable of in outperforming even high-end gaming rigs.

what's your take? I tend to believe that it's just the ability of great devs such as Naughty Dog and Santa Monica that are able to find the right compromises in order to make their titles look so good, still not good enough to beat out games like Crysis.

another interesting article about the use of the SPUs

Metroid_Other_M

Not nessesary is BS because he is actually talking about 16X Multi-sampling which alone will not make a PS3 output better graphics than PC games,it will just has a great AA system without the penalty it would had on PC,graphics on PC are not AA alone fillrate is much much lower on the PS3 compare to a PC,and many other effects as well.