PS3 Harder to Develop for? Nonsense, says GRAW team!!

Why the **** should I care about what the GRAW team says?

****ing John Carmack says that it IS hard to develop for.jetthrovegas

John Carmack is a whiner. he cried when AMD and Intel where pushing dual cores vs faster single cores. he has cried about direct x. He hasn't made a good game in years so who cares what he says. Doom 3 was graphically ok but the game design was archaic. There are much better devs than him. I would take the word of the infinity ward team over carmack any day.

[QUOTE="jetthrovegas"]Why the **** should I care about what the GRAW team says?

****ing John Carmack says that it IS hard to develop for.iwo4life

John Carmack is a whiner. he cried when AMD and Intel where pushing dual cores vs faster single cores. he has cried about direct x. He hasn't made a good game in years so who cares what he says. Doom 3 was graphically ok but the game design was archaic. There are much better devs than him. I would take the word of the infinity ward team over carmack any day.

John Carmack is the greatest graphical genius in the industry.

He helped create 3D games and FPS's as we know them.

Show some ****ing respect man.

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yea ea says the ps3 hardware is more mysterious... people like the GRAW team and activision(got cod4 to run at 60fps) seem to disagree

redandblack23

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="jetthrovegas"]

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Nothing they're saying should be that surprising. They're saying that if you write an actual next-gen, multi-threaded engine, you shouldn't have a problem on the PS3 or the 360. Multicore is here to stay, and programmers have to get used to it. Whining about how its more difficult than the single-core PC days of yore isn't going to change anything.jetthrovegas

John Carmack disagrees. Multicore is not the only thing that is hurthing the PS3. It also has RAM problems.

When working on multiple plats simultaneously (like withid Tech 5 or Quakewars), it is a royal pain in the ass to have to slow down dev time and change the base textures and shadowing to accomodate the platform with the weakest RAM.

Carmack said that the PS3 version of Quakewars was 7 months behind the others because of this. Seven ****ing months.

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[QUOTE="jetthrovegas"]Why the **** should I care about what the GRAW team says?

****ing John Carmack says that it IS hard to develop for.jetthrovegas

John Carmack is a whiner. he cried when AMD and Intel where pushing dual cores vs faster single cores. he has cried about direct x. He hasn't made a good game in years so who cares what he says. Doom 3 was graphically ok but the game design was archaic. There are much better devs than him. I would take the word of the infinity ward team over carmack any day.

John Carmack is the greatest graphical genius in the industry.

He helped create 3D games and FPS's as we know them.

Show some ****ing respect man.

[QUOTE="iwo4life"]

[QUOTE="jetthrovegas"]Why the **** should I care about what the GRAW team says?

****ing John Carmack says that it IS hard to develop for.jetthrovegas

John Carmack is a whiner. he cried when AMD and Intel where pushing dual cores vs faster single cores. he has cried about direct x. He hasn't made a good game in years so who cares what he says. Doom 3 was graphically ok but the game design was archaic. There are much better devs than him. I would take the word of the infinity ward team over carmack any day.

John Carmack is the greatest graphical genius in the industry.

He helped create 3D games and FPS's as we know them.

Show some ****ing respect man.

What has he done lately? Doom3 = Garbage. Quake 4 = Sightly better than Doom3. I remember before D3 came out everyone said that all of the future game would use the Doom3 engine. Well guess what. Not too many did because it was junk.

I didn't bash his legendary work in the past. I am just saying that he has not done squat lately other than cry and moan. Why should I care what someone stuck in an old paradigm has to say about what is going on in todays gaming world. You don't see infinity ward crying. They just go out and make the games. They don't campaign and cry and moan about stuff to the media.

Wait, you mean the sameGRAW team that had the 360 version of GRAW 2come out in March? The same one that has yet to release GRAW 2 on the PS3? They said the PS3 isn't any harder to develop for? I don't beleive you.PBSnipes

It's true! All other developers are in a big conspiracy against Sony!Stonin

yup, start noticing that now. too bad peter morre is to be blame for this crappy ports.

[QUOTE="jetthrovegas"][QUOTE="iwo4life"]

[QUOTE="jetthrovegas"]Why the **** should I care about what the GRAW team says?

****ing John Carmack says that it IS hard to develop for.Teufelhuhn

John Carmack is a whiner. he cried when AMD and Intel where pushing dual cores vs faster single cores. he has cried about direct x. He hasn't made a good game in years so who cares what he says. Doom 3 was graphically ok but the game design was archaic. There are much better devs than him. I would take the word of the infinity ward team over carmack any day.

John Carmack is the greatest graphical genius in the industry.

He helped create 3D games and FPS's as we know them.

Show some ****ing respect man.

Handwriting machine code is easier then using a basic II compiler!

(hint - not its not).

Lol. Good read there. Nice find. ;)snorlaxmaster

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[QUOTE="wiistation360"]thats why cows are still waiting for graw 2 for months?Episode_Eve

Maybe, they didn't start developing the game for the PS3 until GRAW2 was released for the 360.

My thoughts exactly. Development started later for the PS3 version plus they had to get used to the new architecture.

I'm sure that developers won't lie. The PS3 is not "hard" to develope for once programmers learn the infrastructure.But this should be obvious with new technology. Anyone that actually thinks the 360 is a superior console for multiplat games is highly mistaken.

Why would they be mistaken? Fact is...It is superior when they build the game around the 360's design and then port it elsewhere. As long as these games are straight ports then the 360 will have the better version each time where the hardware is stronger or not.

Why was it delayed so long then.
Blackbond

read the article. they said the system is not hard to work with... it's just something new you have to learn how to use. like all new systems. that's why they delayed it...