PS3 has more jrpg, and jsrpg then 360.

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#1 OutlawStarXIII
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PS3-Final Fantasy XIII(exclusive in Japan), Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Final Fantasy XIII Demo, Cross Edge, Disgaea 3, Dark Cloud 3, Valkyria Chronicles, and White Knight Story. Also Kingdom Hearts 3(Nomura is behind it so you know it'll be on PS3). And a Final Fantasy VII Remake bound to happen in the future. Also for those of you who don't know. SONY has some ownership of FFVII. Don't wiki it you're gonna have to do some deep searching. Why else do you think EVERY Final Fantasy spin-off EXCEPT for VII appears on a non-Sony console. So far i've only met 3 people who knew this. 360-Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Tales of Vespera, Infinite Undiscovery, Operation Darkness, Zoids Assault, Spectral Force, and Star Ocean 4. Timed exclusives don't count because it'll be multi anyway. Don't mention wrpg or wsrpg for 360. This is all about JRPG or JSRPG. Multi-Last Remnant and possibly Star Ocean 4. So yeah PS3>360 in jrpg. 3 out of the 5 jrpg for 360 have been average at best. Nothing stunning and genre defining.
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#2 CronoSquall
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Only one of the games you listed is actually out, and it's mediocre. Unless you live in Japan, I fail to see why you are touting the fact that FF13 is exclusive in Japan, it's completely meaningless to us.
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#3 OutlawStarXIII
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Japan version isn't delayed and A LOT of PS3 owners will import the exclusive version. I'm not talking about quality and Disgaea 3 isn't mediocre I guess you gotta be a core fan of the series. The point of this thread is to let people know that 360 DOESN'T have MORE jrpg then PS3.
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Why is the FF13 demo considered a full-on JRPG?
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Japan version isn't delayed and A LOT of PS3 owners will import the exclusive version. I'm not talking about quality and Disgaea 3 isn't mediocre I guess you gotta be a core fan of the series. The point of this thread is to let people know that 360 DOESN'T have MORE jrpg then PS3.OutlawStarXIII

Why would they import an RPG written entirely in Japanese...

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Japan version isn't delayed and A LOT of PS3 owners will import the exclusive version. I'm not talking about quality and Disgaea 3 isn't mediocre I guess you gotta be a core fan of the series. The point of this thread is to let people know that 360 DOESN'T have MORE jrpg then PS3.OutlawStarXIII

So that they can play a game they don't understand? Nice. As for your Disgaea 3 arguement, same arguement can be applied to the 360 JRPGs you write off as mediocre at best, such as LO, which scored the same at Gamespot. You lose, sir. Good day.

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I can care less about JRPGs.
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Why is the FF13 demo considered a full-on JRPG?TheSystemLord1

[QUOTE="OutlawStarXIII"]Japan version isn't delayed and A LOT of PS3 owners will import the exclusive version. I'm not talking about quality and Disgaea 3 isn't mediocre I guess you gotta be a core fan of the series. The point of this thread is to let people know that 360 DOESN'T have MORE jrpg then PS3.TheSystemLord1

Why would they import an RPG written entirely in Japanese...

It last 90min, thats longer then it takes me to beat MGS4's story on Solid Normal. The same reason Sony fanboys import japanese psp games.
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Games that I have to wait to play are not better than games I can play. Until those games are out the 360 is the king of next gen console JRPGs. Who knows by then there may even be more games coming out for either system.
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[QUOTE="OutlawStarXIII"]Japan version isn't delayed and A LOT of PS3 owners will import the exclusive version. I'm not talking about quality and Disgaea 3 isn't mediocre I guess you gotta be a core fan of the series. The point of this thread is to let people know that 360 DOESN'T have MORE jrpg then PS3.TheSystemLord1

Why would they import an RPG written entirely in Japanese...

Shhhh, you'll only make it worse

This thread doesn't exactly have any solid facts

It says one game that's awful is already out of the PS3 but the author says the game isn't awful because you have to be a fan of the series and overlook huge flaws. Well that's dandy

Then he says that Sony and SE are together but gives no proof at all.

Then he says that timed exclusives aren't special because he's been taught the PS3 mantra "wait long enough and we may be able to give you something to play, maybe"

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It is a demo. It does not count as a game. Get real.

And you still haven't explained to us why people who don't read Japanese are going to import a game written entirely in Japanese.

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[QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"]

[QUOTE="OutlawStarXIII"]Japan version isn't delayed and A LOT of PS3 owners will import the exclusive version. I'm not talking about quality and Disgaea 3 isn't mediocre I guess you gotta be a core fan of the series. The point of this thread is to let people know that 360 DOESN'T have MORE jrpg then PS3.Jaysonguy

Why would they import an RPG written entirely in Japanese...

Shhhh, you'll only make it worse

This thread doesn't exactly have any solid facts

It says one game that's awful is already out of the PS3 but the author says the game isn't awful because you have to be a fan of the series and overlook huge flaws. Well that's dandy

Then he says that Sony and SE are together but gives no proof at all.

Then he says that timed exclusives aren't special because he's been taught the PS3 mantra "wait long enough and we may be able to give you something to play, maybe"

Disgaea 3 is awful? :( I was going to buy it soon...

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Games that I have to wait to play are not better than games I can play. Until those games are out the 360 is the king of next gen console JRPGs. Who knows by then there may even be more games coming out for either system. HarlockJC

Well that's the thing

PS3 owners have been told that it's ok to wait for games to play while their systems collect dust. So they see no problem waiting a year or two for games. Sony has promised them software to play sometime in the distant future and they're ok waiting.

All the other gamers want games to play so that's where they don't see eye to eye

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LOL, "me and only 3 other people i have met knew this"...i think that meants its BS!
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[QUOTE="OutlawStarXIII"]Japan version isn't delayed and A LOT of PS3 owners will import the exclusive version. I'm not talking about quality and Disgaea 3 isn't mediocre I guess you gotta be a core fan of the series. The point of this thread is to let people know that 360 DOESN'T have MORE jrpg then PS3.CronoSquall

So that they can play a game they don't understand? Nice. As for your Disaea 3 arguement, same argument can be applied to the 360 JRPGs you write off as mediocre at best, such as LO, which scored the same at Gamespot. You lose, sir. Good day.

I didn't know that you could predict what PS3 owners buy or import. You can't control what that do. Lurk on forums more, many Sony fanboys are importing the Japan version because they finally want a epic jrpg and they want it because Japanese version is exclusive. This thread isn't about ratings, its about PS3 having more jrpg then 360.
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"]

[QUOTE="OutlawStarXIII"]Japan version isn't delayed and A LOT of PS3 owners will import the exclusive version. I'm not talking about quality and Disgaea 3 isn't mediocre I guess you gotta be a core fan of the series. The point of this thread is to let people know that 360 DOESN'T have MORE jrpg then PS3.TheSystemLord1

Why would they import an RPG written entirely in Japanese...

Shhhh, you'll only make it worse

This thread doesn't exactly have any solid facts

It says one game that's awful is already out of the PS3 but the author says the game isn't awful because you have to be a fan of the series and overlook huge flaws. Well that's dandy

Then he says that Sony and SE are together but gives no proof at all.

Then he says that timed exclusives aren't special because he's been taught the PS3 mantra "wait long enough and we may be able to give you something to play, maybe"

Disgaea 3 is awful? :( I was going to buy it soon...

REALLY like the subject material

If you're not a fan like (I can tell you everything to do with the series up to this point) then it's going to be a letdown.

If you're new trying to get into the series you'll hate it.

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#17 OutlawStarXIII
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LOL, "me and only 3 other people i have met knew this"...i think that meants its BS!Daytona_178
Well look it up then before you assume stuff. Same way only a little bit of people know that SONY and Toshiba had a part in helping create blu-ray. It wasn't just the BDA. Why else do you think the compliantation of FFVII stays on SONY consoles?
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Timed exclusives don't count but demos and games that don't exist do?
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[QUOTE="CronoSquall"]

[QUOTE="OutlawStarXIII"]Japan version isn't delayed and A LOT of PS3 owners will import the exclusive version. I'm not talking about quality and Disgaea 3 isn't mediocre I guess you gotta be a core fan of the series. The point of this thread is to let people know that 360 DOESN'T have MORE jrpg then PS3.OutlawStarXIII

So that they can play a game they don't understand? Nice. As for your Disaea 3 arguement, same argument can be applied to the 360 JRPGs you write off as mediocre at best, such as LO, which scored the same at Gamespot. You lose, sir. Good day.

I didn't know that you could predict what PS3 owners buy or import. You can't control what that do. Lurk on forums more, many Sony fanboys are importing the Japan version because they finally want a epic jrpg and they want it because Japanese version is exclusive. This thread isn't about ratings, its about PS3 having more jrpg then 360.

You're trying too hard. They're importing a version of a game they can't understand, despite the fact that the narrative is half the package in a JRPG? Ok, so what are you proving here? Those people are clearly insane. Better to have an exclusive version you can't understand? The fail is strong in that logic.

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#20 SapSacPrime
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No, the xbox has more :| the PS3 has more in in development if you live in Japan, for those of us that live in the west the 360 has more now and will continue to for some time :P.
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What about Operation Darkness?
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Well, on the SRPG front, 360 also has Spectral Force 3, Operation Darkness, and Zoids Assault. All exclusive, and the first two were met with a solid meh. But still, they're there and the people who play those sorts of games have generally positive things to say about both.
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]Games that I have to wait to play are not better than games I can play. Until those games are out the 360 is the king of next gen console JRPGs. Who knows by then there may even be more games coming out for either system. Jaysonguy

Well that's the thing

PS3 owners have been told that it's ok to wait for games to play while their systems collect dust. So they see no problem waiting a year or two for games. Sony has promised them software to play sometime in the distant future and they're ok waiting.

All the other gamers want games to play so that's where they don't see eye to eye

Which is kinda sad. To see the system which had the most JRPGs on it, to now 2 years later it's follow up still be in last place for JRPGs.

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Only one of the games you listed is actually out, and it's mediocre. Unless you live in Japan, I fail to see why you are touting the fact that FF13 is exclusive in Japan, it's completely meaningless to us.CronoSquall

Seriously, Disgaea 1 already made it to cult status and 2 and 3 are both huge improvements over theyr predescesors gameplay wise.

Revamped cla-sses to remove the useless ones and stupidly OP ones
tons of new gameplay features building on top of its already impressive list

It may not be a cup to everyones liking but to call it mediocre is nothing short if ignorant and thats from someone who disises its choise for cheap graphics and less than inteligent enemys

A sample of the features that disgaea adds over your average SRPG

D1:
team attacks
stack
throw
diagonal throw
itemworld
dark court
student/master relationships
counter-counters

D1+D2:
greatly improved cla-ss balance
stack attack
Item world pirates
challenges
vastly improved dark court

D3
weapon transformations
cla-ss positioning system
Teachers
revamped dark court

Edit: Newcomersare best off picking up D2, - its everything D1 has and so much more while not overwhelming the layer.

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Timed exclusives don't count but demos and games that don't exist do?nikoofus
[QUOTE="OutlawStarXIII"][QUOTE="CronoSquall"]

[QUOTE="OutlawStarXIII"]Japan version isn't delayed and A LOT of PS3 owners will import the exclusive version. I'm not talking about quality and Disgaea 3 isn't mediocre I guess you gotta be a core fan of the series. The point of this thread is to let people know that 360 DOESN'T have MORE jrpg then PS3.CronoSquall

So that they can play a game they don't understand? Nice. As for your Disaea 3 arguement, same argument can be applied to the 360 JRPGs you write off as mediocre at best, such as LO, which scored the same at Gamespot. You lose, sir. Good day.

I didn't know that you could predict what PS3 owners buy or import. You can't control what that do. Lurk on forums more, many Sony fanboys are importing the Japan version because they finally want a epic jrpg and they want it because Japanese version is exclusive. This thread isn't about ratings, its about PS3 having more jrpg then 360.

You're trying too hard. They're importing a version of a game they can't understand, despite the fact that the narrative is half the package in a JRPG? Ok, so what are you proving here? Those people are clearly insane. Better to have an exclusive version you can't understand? The fail is strong in that logic.

Those timed exclusives will end up being multi. The demo is exclusive. Those games that don't exist are eventually coming and we ALL know it. Its just gonna take a while. You have no idea what people are gonna do. Speak for yourself. I see a lot of people who are willing to import. A lot of people imported Brawl. A lot of people are importing Afrika. And a lot of people are planning on importing XIII.
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All I got from this topic was "just wait".
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#28 MarloStanfield
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The thing is, both systems suck at RPGs. 360 has 2 AA RPGs that are not on or coming to the PS3. The PS3 has no AA/AAA RPGs that wont be on the 360

DS is better thanl both combined and always will be, it's not even close

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You included a demo in that list. :| I'm sorry but currently the 360 dominates the PS3 in jrpgs. Enjoy waiting 2+ years for those XIII spin-offs, I will be enjoying my Xbox 360's jrpgs that are out NOW and you can play NOW!
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You counted a demo for the PS3 and missed LO for the 360....fanboy much?
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#31 OutlawStarXIII
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All I got from this topic was "just wait". Fumpa
I don't care how good LO, ToV, IU, and BD look graphically. They are average jrpg and one of them just flat out sucks. If I want a GOOD QUALITY jrpg i'll go play my DS, PSP, or PS2. 360 owners are WAITING for a GOOD jrpg. Star Ocean 4, Last Remnant, and Final Fantasy XIII
You included a demo in that list. :| I'm sorry but currently the 360 dominates the PS3 in jrpgs. Enjoy waiting 2+ years for those XIII spin-offs, I will be enjoying my Xbox 360's jrpgs that are out NOW and you can play NOW!DireOwl
The demo last longer then most games stand alone story modes and campaigns. Its dominating with average jrpg? So far neither 360 or PS3 is dominating in that area. But based off of facts and future games, PS3 will dominante jrpg genre. Sadly PS3 owners have no problem waiting. And most PS3 owners have a PSP which has BETTER jrpg then the 360. I don't care if you go play your average jrpg NOW. You impatient fool. Oh FFXIII is coming out in 2009 for the PS3 in Japan and WKS is coming before March 09. PS3 owners are gonna import and we can wait for WKS.
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#32 OutlawStarXIII
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I did include Lost Odyssey.
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i'm sorry. but if you list final fantasy 13 demo as an ACTUAL GAME, i'm going to stop reading there.

also, none of those games are out yet.

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Only one of the games you listed is actually out, and it's mediocre. Unless you live in Japan, I fail to see why you are touting the fact that FF13 is exclusive in Japan, it's completely meaningless to us.CronoSquall

Its Probable meaningless to you because you have no interest in learning Japanese, but for people who do, they will be crazy enough to import the Japanese version. I'm only saying this because you make it seam like every one is like you when its only the majority.

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stop kidding yourself...
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Japan version isn't delayed and A LOT of PS3 owners will import the exclusive version. I'm not talking about quality and Disgaea 3 isn't mediocre I guess you gotta be a core fan of the series. The point of this thread is to let people know that 360 DOESN'T have MORE jrpg then PS3.OutlawStarXIII

Every site agress disgaea could have been done on an ps1 or ps2....thats not a good game...

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[QUOTE="OutlawStarXIII"]Japan version isn't delayed and A LOT of PS3 owners will import the exclusive version. I'm not talking about quality and Disgaea 3 isn't mediocre I guess you gotta be a core fan of the series. The point of this thread is to let people know that 360 DOESN'T have MORE jrpg then PS3.TheSystemLord1

Why would they import an RPG written entirely in Japanese...

Its Probable meaningless to you because you have no interest in learning Japanese, but for people who do, they will be crazy enough to import the Japanese version. I'm only saying this because you make it seam like every one is like you when its only the majority. I'm American by the way and I perfer all my games in Japanese, not just because I'm extreme interested in the Japanese language because of the way its written, sounds, and challenge. Its because all the Japanese based games I've played were changed up in English.



Also games like Ratchet & Clank Futute/Ratchet & Clank Future: Tool of Detruction can be changed to English even if bought from Japan. So people who imported the FFXIII game would be able to play the Japanese version in English right away or when a firmware update comes, but SONY doesn't tell you about this or they would have with Ratchet and Clank Future/Ratchet & Clank Future Tool of Detruction. I understand you fail to understand why the Japanese language is so great because you only have interest in your ownnative language, but the English version having the Japanese voices isn't enough for me since I'm fully interested in Japanese, I need the text in Japanese also and I could do it if I bought the American version, but what if I want FFXIII on day one when it comes out in Japan.

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#38 OutlawStarXIII
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i'm sorry. but if you list final fantasy 13 demo as an ACTUAL GAME, i'm going to stop reading there.

also, none of those games are out yet.

mistervengeance

[QUOTE="OutlawStarXIII"]Japan version isn't delayed and A LOT of PS3 owners will import the exclusive version. I'm not talking about quality and Disgaea 3 isn't mediocre I guess you gotta be a core fan of the series. The point of this thread is to let people know that 360 DOESN'T have MORE jrpg then PS3.WilliamRLBaker

Every site agress disgaea could have been done on an ps1 or ps2....thats not a good game...

Its 90 minutes, last longer then most games campaigns and story modes. MGS4 and Halo 3 come to mind. Just because it doesn't look good visually doesn't mean it sucks. It has a lot of content and stuff that wouldn't be able to fit on a PS2 disc.
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[QUOTE="OutlawStarXIII"]Japan version isn't delayed and A LOT of PS3 owners will import the exclusive version. I'm not talking about quality and Disgaea 3 isn't mediocre I guess you gotta be a core fan of the series. The point of this thread is to let people know that 360 DOESN'T have MORE jrpg then PS3.WilliamRLBaker

Every site agress disgaea could have been done on an ps1 or ps2....thats not a good game...

I guess you have forgotten how PS1 games looked like. What i have read from reviews is that the graphics could have been done on the ps2, but so could all the wii games.

so by your conclusion all wii games = bad games.

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#40 cosmostein77
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Oh...

Another Just Wait Thread....

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#41 nickmat_tycoon
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who cares if ps3 has more jsrpgs or whateva they are

THIS IS FREAKIN HILARIOUS!!!!!!!

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#42 OutlawStarXIII
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[QUOTE="Fumpa"]All I got from this topic was "just wait". OutlawStarXIII
I don't care how good LO, ToV, IU, and BD look graphically. They are average jrpg and one of them just flat out sucks. If I want a GOOD QUALITY jrpg i'll go play my DS, PSP, or PS2. 360 owners are WAITING for a GOOD jrpg. Star Ocean 4, Last Remnant, and Final Fantasy XIII
You included a demo in that list. :| I'm sorry but currently the 360 dominates the PS3 in jrpgs. Enjoy waiting 2+ years for those XIII spin-offs, I will be enjoying my Xbox 360's jrpgs that are out NOW and you can play NOW!DireOwl
The demo last longer then most games stand alone story modes and campaigns. Its dominating with average jrpg? So far neither 360 or PS3 is dominating in that area. But based off of facts and future games, PS3 will dominante jrpg genre. Sadly PS3 owners have no problem waiting. And most PS3 owners have a PSP which has BETTER jrpg then the 360. I don't care if you go play your average jrpg NOW. You impatient fool. Oh FFXIII is coming out in 2009 for the PS3 in Japan and WKS is coming before March 09. PS3 owners are gonna import and we can wait for WKS.

Oh...

Another Just Wait Thread....

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Quoted for emphasis. I'd rather wait for GOOD jrpg then continuously brag about a console having 4 average non exciting jrpg. Most PS3 owners aren't impatient, we can wait sadly.
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#43 xX0LDSCH00LXx
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I blame Sony for putting a stupid browser in the PS3 for all these non-stop stupid threads!
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#44 xX0LDSCH00LXx
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LOL!
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#45 hot114
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None of NIS theyr games look visually impressive that does not deter anything from the fact that it set a benchmarkfor the SRPG genre and offers more content than any one man can chew through.


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#46 -RPGamer-
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I like how these Xbox 360 JRPG are labeled as something other than good/great. And how waiting to play games is better than playing good/great ones out now.

Any real JRPG fan would look forward and enjoy both lists, period. :|

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#47 TTDog
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LOL at including a demo in exclusive RPG's... scraping the barrel, doesn't include Star OCean as a 360 exclusive when they've stated there are no plans for a PS3 version and includes FF13 as a PS3 exclusive when its multiplatform everywher except Japan...

Uber-fail.

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#48 supermechakirby
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oh I see how it is

then the 360 has

Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey Demo, Blue Dragon Demo, Eternal Sonata, Tales of Vesperia, Eternal Sonata Demo, Tales of Vesperia Demo, Star Ocean 4, Infinite Undiscovery, Star ocean 4 Demo, The Last Remnant, Cry On, The Last Remnant Demo, Cry On Demo.

see? :D

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#49 VanHelsingBoA64
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[QUOTE="OutlawStarXIII"]Japan version isn't delayed and A LOT of PS3 owners will import the exclusive version. I'm not talking about quality and Disgaea 3 isn't mediocre I guess you gotta be a core fan of the series. The point of this thread is to let people know that 360 DOESN'T have MORE jrpg then PS3.TheSystemLord1

Why would they import an RPG written entirely in Japanese...

Yeah, no one outside of Japan knows how to speak Japanese.

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#50 lawlessx
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I like how these Xbox 360 JRPG are labeled as something other than good/great. And how waiting to play games is better than playing good/great ones out now.

Any real JRPG fan would look forward and enjoy both lists, period. :|

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whoa!..haven't seen you in a while

busy summer?