PS3 is NOT SAFE to make exclusive titles!!

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#51 Thigeic
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It's impossible right now to imagine MGS4 being exclusive.Redgarl
Isent the game to big to be released on any other consol tho? Complaining about the size of a blu ray disc kinda limits it to a PS3
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#52 CwlHeddwyn
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PS3 IS SAFE to make exclusives for- top games will make Profit- the question is - How much profit? if a company has a game that could make much more profit if it was multiplatform then they will do that- especially if the PS3 is still behind in the sales area.
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#53 siafni
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[QUOTE="Redgarl"]It's impossible right now to imagine MGS4 being exclusive.Thigeic
Isent the game to big to be released on any other consol tho? Complaining about the size of a blu ray disc kinda limits it to a PS3



Actually he declaired during an interview that MGS4 would be feasible on the 360. That's when the rumor of an xbox version started...
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#54 Paktahn
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[QUOTE="Redgarl"]It's impossible right now to imagine MGS4 being exclusive.Thigeic
Isent the game to big to be released on any other consol tho? Complaining about the size of a blu ray disc kinda limits it to a PS3

MGS on the PSX used two CDs. Why is using multiple discs impossible with MGS 4? 

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#55 nnavidson
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[QUOTE="munu9"]A game needs to sell about 500k for the game to start making profit. Resistance has already sold about 500,000. MGS4 should be able to sell at least a million by the time it's out and at least 2 million within about a year of it's release...Firelore29

Did you just completely make that crap up?  Show me a link where it says that a next gen game will break even at about 500k sold.  If your going from a last generation link then you might want to rethink that.  It takes a small fortune to produce a game this generation.

500,000 x $60 = 30,000,000.  30 Million seems like a reasonable budget for most next gen games.

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#56 jaysin1414
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it's an exaggeration to assume they won't make any profit at all on the PS3. they are selling, and games for it are in high demand. don't assume no one is buying itMordred19

Just don't assume that anyone is buying it in numbers equal to the Wii or 360 either...

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#57 jaysin1414
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[QUOTE="Firelore29"]

[QUOTE="munu9"]A game needs to sell about 500k for the game to start making profit. Resistance has already sold about 500,000. MGS4 should be able to sell at least a million by the time it's out and at least 2 million within about a year of it's release...nnavidson

Did you just completely make that crap up?  Show me a link where it says that a next gen game will break even at about 500k sold.  If your going from a last generation link then you might want to rethink that.  It takes a small fortune to produce a game this generation.

500,000 x $60 = 30,000,000.  30 Million seems like a reasonable budget for most next gen games.

You've completely left out retailer profit, among other things.  If development costs alone mean the game is going to cost $60/unit does that mean that the retailer is going to put it on their shelves out of charity?  Best Buy, Walmart and Target don't do anything for free. 

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#58 t2wave
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The bigger name games shouldn't have a problem, it's the newer untried names that will be taking a risk.
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#59 ramey70
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[QUOTE="GODFLESH_basic"]Unless Sony compensates the developer.xX0LDSCH00LXx
Sony is cash strapped

You couldn't be more wrong.
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#60 Tamarind_Face
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LOL, pls check how many Resistance have sold... then comeback, the only place that isnt safe to make a exclusive is for the Wii. Competition from Nintendo titles and consumers buying crappy mini games(some not even buying any game).
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#61 _AsasN_
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If your game costs $20-$30 million to make and you make it only for the PS3, you won't be making profit. Its sales aren't doing as good as they can, and it probably will not sell enough by 2008 to assure developers they'll make profit. If they don't make enough by 2008, then big developers won't support it anymore. The stronger Xbox 360 becomes, the more confident developers are making their games exclusive on the 360. Same goes for the Wii.

Will the PS3 sell enough to make profit for games like MGS 4? If it doesn't sell enough then Kojima might consider making it multiplatform, and that's ONLY if it doesn't sell well. If big games don't make enough money, then I don't think any developer will ever make it exclusive. If Sony doesn't prove themselves soon, only 1st party titles will be exclusive on their console.
RyuHayabusaX
Do you actually believe all that crap? Seriously, you just told us how it's gonna go down as if you know what you're talking about. Sorry, but you don't. If it wasn't safe to make exclusives for a system, there probably wouldn't be an MGS 4 or Heavenly Sword etc. It's amazing how many marketing experts we have here in system wars. lol
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#62 Telekill
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If your game costs $20-$30 million to make and you make it only for the PS3, you won't be making profit. Its sales aren't doing as good as they can, and it probably will not sell enough by 2008 to assure developers they'll make profit. If they don't make enough by 2008, then big developers won't support it anymore. The stronger Xbox 360 becomes, the more confident developers are making their games exclusive on the 360. Same goes for the Wii.

Will the PS3 sell enough to make profit for games like MGS 4? If it doesn't sell enough then Kojima might consider making it multiplatform, and that's ONLY if it doesn't sell well. If big games don't make enough money, then I don't think any developer will ever make it exclusive. If Sony doesn't prove themselves soon, only 1st party titles will be exclusive on their console.
RyuHayabusaX
Umm... so basically a year ago, when 360 was new... it was NOT SAFE to make exclusive titles for either. Yet they released them. PS3 will have it's share of exclusives. As far as Wii is concerned, it's doing phenominal. It's sold 4 mil + units in record time because of the cost and the Wiimote. I can gurantee you that if the WIi cost $400 that it wouldn't be selling nearly as many. Plus, given that the Wiimote is the main controler for the system, this basically means that 90% of the games comming for the Wii will be exclusive. Dont let your fanboyism shine through so clear next time.
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#63 peaceful_anger
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[QUOTE="peaceful_anger"]

I swear!!! You lemmings act like the PS3 should have come right out of the gate and sold 10 million in its first day, and since it obviously didn't, all their top exclusives are going to go multiplat. Please!!! The only reason it looks like the PS3 is doing bad is because the wii is doing so much better, and like someone has already stated, the PS3 is selling better than the 360 did this time last year, and it really doesn't matter if lemmings bring up the fact that the 360 wasn't readily available till March because the PS3 is still selling better and could possibly reach 10 million units sold in a lesser time frame than it took the 360 to reach 10 million, heck even the wii will reach 10 million in a lesser time frame. And that right there will show developers that the PS3 still has a very good following. And no I'm not a cow.

danneswegman

yes you are....

I can assure you I am no cow. I am 100% sheep at the moment, and soon to be 30% lemming. OMG I must be sick cause I'm actually defending the cows and the PS3. But seriously, I just can't stand how lemmings are acting right now.
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#64 Socrates88
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If its true that making a game for one console actually costs you money then why are there any third party exclusive games at all? Think about it.echelon
It's actually expensive to go multi-plat than staying exclusive. Some fans don't understand the business side of gaming.
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#65 NuclearFreedom
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WOW.......guess the XBOX is NOT SAFE to make exclusive titles. See i can make BS stuff too.
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#66 wooooode
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Unless Sony compensates the developer.GODFLESH_basic
Which is why a game would be exclusive in the first place. But yeah at this point it is stupid to release a exclusive title on the PS3.
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#67 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="RyuHayabusaX"]If your game costs $20-$30 million to make and you make it only for the PS3, you won't be making profit. Its sales aren't doing as good as they can, and it probably will not sell enough by 2008 to assure developers they'll make profit. If they don't make enough by 2008, then big developers won't support it anymore. The stronger Xbox 360 becomes, the more confident developers are making their games exclusive on the 360. Same goes for the Wii.

Will the PS3 sell enough to make profit for games like MGS 4? If it doesn't sell enough then Kojima might consider making it multiplatform, and that's ONLY if it doesn't sell well. If big games don't make enough money, then I don't think any developer will ever make it exclusive. If Sony doesn't prove themselves soon, only 1st party titles will be exclusive on their console.
dgsag
I hope MGS 4 comes to PC. Hideo says hes liking the PC market more than the console market right about now. :D

Well, I hope that they make a control scheme that WORKS... MGS and MGS2 on the PC were a downright nightmare to play without a joypad.