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#51 YuriSH
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I believe it's best to wait until it's released and wait a year to see if it gets more support or less to see if it flopped lol
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#52 ItsBriskBaby
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The only thing that floped is this thread, seriously. How can you claim confirmed from that?

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#53 SaudiFury
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ummm Move has no killer app that is exclusive to the hardware.

hence it'll be at best, on the level of popularity of the Playstation Eyetoy.

we'll see what the future brings. but at the moment it doesn't look so good.

then again Kinect looks cool from a user interface point of view. not for 'hardcore' gaming.

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#54 crashndash
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[QUOTE="Ravenlore_basic"]

[QUOTE="thrillh0"]

60% rating from early reviews...

http://n4g.com/news/597038/cnet-playstation-move-review

LOL so says YOU .... why not wait till it lanches...

NOT to mention it is not a list of all games that will be BC with Move.... :D ... BUT nice try :lol:

lol its funny seeing someone try to say its a flop from 1 review XD
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#55 gamer-adam1
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ok why is it ok for Move to have a lackluster Launch, but its not ok for Kinect?

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#56 donalbane
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What's Worse? Threads that begin with "Can we all agree..." or threads that end in "...Confirmed"

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Can we agree is worse. Obvious flamebait, whereas "Confirmed" is occasionally actually true. (Not very often, though.)
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#58 hiryu3
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Cons "PlayStation Eye monopolizes a USB port" Umm... what USB device doesn't do that?
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#59 ProjectNatalFan
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the launch games are getting horrible scores, Move is in trouble.

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#60 KarateeeChop
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pretty much everyone expected it to flop. we just didn't know it would be this bad.

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#61 ProjectNatalFan
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pretty much everyone expected it to flop. we just didn't know it would be this bad.

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yeah and cnet is usually good

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#62 Animal-Mother
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the launch games are getting horrible scores, Move is in trouble.

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Proof, and with threads like this I don't think there will be much. http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27431919
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[QUOTE="Giancar"]I only see Kinect hype threads made by lems cows don't really care for Move, as they have a pretty good lineup to look forwardblue_hazy_basic
I don't even see many people hyped for Kinect, I don't see any ownage in either of them. TBH 3/5 is probably better than I expected.

3/5 on CNET equates to 'good' .If you watched the video, you would see that the only thing he referred to as a negative was the launch line-up. Of course, that isn't a good thing, but he didn't include the other games that are already out and will be patched to be playable Move. The only other bad thing worth mentioning in the written review was that it required constant recalibration. You gotta admit though, using "PlayStation Eye monopolizes a USB port" as a negative is just ridiculous. There's not much use for them when you play games and you could just buy USB hubs, which are incredibly cheap, if it's a problem.
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#64 donalbane
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the launch games are getting horrible scores, Move is in trouble.

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Sports champs and Eye Pet are scoring in the 8's, which is not exactly horrible... is it? Plus, THEY ARE $40!!!
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#65 ProjectNatalFan
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Giancar"]I only see Kinect hype threads made by lems cows don't really care for Move, as they have a pretty good lineup to look forwardRogueShodown
I don't even see many people hyped for Kinect, I don't see any ownage in either of them. TBH 3/5 is probably better than I expected.

3/5 on CNET equates to 'good' .If you watched the video, you would see that the only thing he referred to as a negative was the launch line-up. Of course, that isn't a good thing, but he didn't include the other games that are already out and will be patched to be playable Move. The only other bad thing worth mentioning in the written review was that it required constant recalibration. You gotta admit though, using "PlayStation Eye monopolizes a USB port" as a negative is just ridiculous. There's not much use for them when you play games and you could just buy USB hubs, which are incredibly cheap, if it's a problem.

sorry buddy Kinect will score higher. Also the launch lineup will probably in total not equal Dance Central sales, now thats saying something...

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#66 ProjectNatalFan
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[QUOTE="ProjectNatalFan"]

the launch games are getting horrible scores, Move is in trouble.

donalbane

Sports champs and Eye Pet are scoring in the 8's, which is not exactly horrible... is it? Plus, THEY ARE $40!!!

yes well im sure dance central will score higher than both of them, but did you see the 3.5 out of 10's alot of the games were gettting oh noessssssssssss

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#67 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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There was a hype?
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[QUOTE="RogueShodown"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] I don't even see many people hyped for Kinect, I don't see any ownage in either of them. TBH 3/5 is probably better than I expected.ProjectNatalFan

3/5 on CNET equates to 'good' .If you watched the video, you would see that the only thing he referred to as a negative was the launch line-up. Of course, that isn't a good thing, but he didn't include the other games that are already out and will be patched to be playable Move. The only other bad thing worth mentioning in the written review was that it required constant recalibration. You gotta admit though, using "PlayStation Eye monopolizes a USB port" as a negative is just ridiculous. There's not much use for them when you play games and you could just buy USB hubs, which are incredibly cheap, if it's a problem.

sorry buddy Kinect will score higher. Also the launch lineup will probably in total not equal Dance Central sales, now thats saying something...

No point responding if you don't have anything to base your assumptions on.
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#69 Adamantium4k2
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Man! I miss the good 'ol days when we just pick up a controller and just play. I don't like motion controlling in my games (I don't even like dual shock). Xbox and PS3 owners should be embarrassed that they have to resort to hyping motion sensing garbage and the shovalware it comes with.

Shamefull....

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#70 Rockman999
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[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] I don't even see many people hyped for Kinect, I don't see any ownage in either of them. TBH 3/5 is probably better than I expected.blue_hazy_basic
I can definitely think of one person in SW hyping Kinect.

The guy with the PS3>PC thread? Yea I'm saying fakeboy if thats true.

He's talking about the guy who has Kinect's previous name as a username here.

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#71 mariokart64fan
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ok enough of the arguing here lets get with the facts people , we all know nothing can beat the wiis motion because wii was shipped with it!

it is simple, add-ons are almost always guaranteed to not be a system seller, what you should focus on is games,

and games havent been released yet that use move to its potential,

so its a wait and see but going by past track of add-ons both kenict and move will only sell to those really wanting to buy it

it will not take away wiis main audience which is every one

it was never intended to

sure ms may say other wise but how can some thing that doesnt even play like wii take away wiis audience

kenict is more expensive then move which is why i think ill pick up move before kenict,

other then that idont see it selling the same 20-30 mill ps3 has already sold further more it wont make wii fall ,

it will just be an add-on for those willing to pick up

not even half of the audience of the ps3 or 3 60 side of things will even pick up these add-ons

the only successful add- o n i know of is the gameboy player btu only because gc only sold so much

so with that said ,

no add-on sells to half or more of the a udience or is a system seller, it needs games first for i can make a final judgment

on wh os better,

right now wii seams to hold the market down in the motion tech ,

ps3 360 are for fancy graphics and online,

wii =the family console, it has always been that way

nintendo is a fami ly company

they aim their stuff at every one ! they dont just look to one audience when making their titles their titles range from sh ooters to just fun to pick up and play games

which is why , i think theyll remain successful

sure wii sales are gonna slow down but , i dont think it will hurt n intendo in any way

they have pretty much won this race and the d s will always be their stronger point,

but i dont know because 2010 seams too good to be true for the wii ,

i mean how can you compete with goldeneye donkey kong country 4 zelda sws kirby metroid other m sin and punishment 2 etc etc

not to mention all third party studios are making games for wii far more then they did for the nintendo 64 or the nintendo gamecube

it is already a win win situation for all 3 ,

not much more to say but none of the 3 are in iminent danger

any one who thinks sony microsoft or nintendo is in danger of going sega/atari

is fu ll of it

they all have thier selling points,

and strengths ,

there is no reason why kenict move will be the reason for any flopage of any c onsole

, sure its gonna not sell as good as wii ,

but theres no real flop happening

they already sold 30 million 360 ps3s infact no console gen has seen all 3 sell 30 plus million consoles until now!

why because more gamers are entering thanks to the nintendo wii ,

the nintendo wii is paving the way the same way nes paved it

we cant jsut grow on graphics alone its appearent if all 3 aimed at graphics ones gonna go ,

nintendo aknowledged that and thanks to them more gamers are in

nuff said tc went over the edge here in trying to defend one of the others

but when this is all said and done all 3 have done what they came to do

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#72 flazzle
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Minimum of 6 feet of distance?

Tedious 3 part colloboration routine before each game?

Tethered to the eye camera, to a point where you can't really move around?

All that for $100?!?! Sign me up!

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#73 RogueShodown
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Man! I miss the good 'ol days when we just pick up a controller and just play. I don't like motion controlling in my games (I don't even like dual shock). Xbox and PS3 owners should be embarrassed that they have to resort to hyping motion sensing garbage and the shovalware it comes with.

Shamefull....

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There's no reason to complain about this until they start replacing regular controls with motion controls as a standard.
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#74 gago-gago
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On another thread, CNET which is the brother site of GameSpot gave it a 3 out of 5. Sony had all this time to copy Nintendo and they couldn't even release some fun launch games, ah well. I'll wait for a price drop and more games that are actually fun to play later on.

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#75 Ninja-Hippo
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At the end of the day you're either interested in something like Move or you're not. I think the reviews for a product like this are pretty meaningless.
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#76 kramer_inc
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Maybe we should start using the CONFIRMED statement only when it's really confirmed :):D:D

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#77 nervmeister
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So, it's flopped because of one review?racing1750
two if you count X-play.

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#78 DerekLoffin
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People were actually hyping Move? Most I've seen have been at best saying it is better than Kinect, but both still suck.
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#79 shinrabanshou
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60% rating from early reviews...

http://n4g.com/news/597038/cnet-playstation-move-review

thrillh0

I made a thread about Move reviews and impressions.

This is from the OP:

  • IGN Hardware Review - 8.5/10
  • CVG Hardware Review - 9/10
  • PC Mag Hardware Review - 4/5
  • TechRadar Hardware Review - 4.5/5
  • Game Informer Hardware Review - 4/5
  • CNET Starter Bundle Review 3/5
  • Enough To Forget The Wii? A Week With The Playstation Move - Ars Technica
  • First living room impressions: PlayStation Move – Destructoid
  • PlayStation Move review – Engadget
  • Playstation Move Review: The Motion Controller Wars Start Now – Kotaku
  • PlayStation Move review: The hardware and experience – Joystiq

You'll notice that the CNET review is in there.

But it's not selectively chosen to try and distort the overall reception.

:)

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I tried it at a display on best buy and was not impressed. The main thing that it seems to improve from the wii is the rotation but that isnt taken advantage of, the ping pong game i tried could rotate the paddle but the rotation didnt actually effect where or how the ball went when hit, i could even hit the ball from behind where based off of all knowledge of physics would shoot it farther away from the table but the game translated it into a perfect return. And yes i can actually prove i played it since the display people gave out a little modnations racer figurine to everyone who used it.
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#81 J-WOW
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Everyone, even SONY's knows it wont be a hit. Its not going to sell like hot cakes, but it will do ok in the market. PS MOVE is fine and its going to be ok
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]I tried it at a display on best buy and was not impressed. The main thing that it seems to improve from the wii is the rotation but that isnt taken advantage of, the ping pong game i tried could rotate the paddle but the rotation didnt actually effect where or how the ball went when hit, i could even hit the ball from behind where based off of all knowledge of physics would shoot it farther away from the table but the game translated it into a perfect return. And yes i can actually prove i played it since the display people gave out a little modnations racer figurine to everyone who used it.

Thanks. I don't really care for the Move right now, but for a free MNR figurine I'll try it out. Hopefully my BB has them on display. Is there a time limit for you to check it out or can you just pick up the controller move it around then put it back and get the figurine?
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[QUOTE="gago-gago"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]I tried it at a display on best buy and was not impressed. The main thing that it seems to improve from the wii is the rotation but that isnt taken advantage of, the ping pong game i tried could rotate the paddle but the rotation didnt actually effect where or how the ball went when hit, i could even hit the ball from behind where based off of all knowledge of physics would shoot it farther away from the table but the game translated it into a perfect return. And yes i can actually prove i played it since the display people gave out a little modnations racer figurine to everyone who used it.

Thanks. I don't really care for the Move right now, but for a free MNR figurine I'll try it out. Hopefully my BB has them on display. Is there a time limit for you to check it out or can you just pick up the controller move it around then put it back and get the figurine?

i played for about 15 minutes but i think you can just move it around a little and get the figurine, they had a full box of them by the TV.
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#85 killzowned24
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Minimum of 6 feet of distance?

Tedious 3 part colloboration routine before each game?

Tethered to the eye camera, to a point where you can't really move around?

All that for $100?!?! Sign me up!

flazzle
It can work closer.In fact, Start The party gets closer in augmented reality so you can see the detail on the objects. Calibration is different for games , the 3 point calibration in Sports Champions can be done super fast and is no problem at all for the control it gives. Tethered to the cam?? Um wat??? PS Eye that also works as webcam and has its own motion games and the best motion controller this gen plus a game is a good deal for $100.
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#86 gago-gago
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="gago-gago"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]I tried it at a display on best buy and was not impressed. The main thing that it seems to improve from the wii is the rotation but that isnt taken advantage of, the ping pong game i tried could rotate the paddle but the rotation didnt actually effect where or how the ball went when hit, i could even hit the ball from behind where based off of all knowledge of physics would shoot it farther away from the table but the game translated it into a perfect return. And yes i can actually prove i played it since the display people gave out a little modnations racer figurine to everyone who used it.

Thanks. I don't really care for the Move right now, but for a free MNR figurine I'll try it out. Hopefully my BB has them on display. Is there a time limit for you to check it out or can you just pick up the controller move it around then put it back and get the figurine?

i played for about 15 minutes but i think you can just move it around a little and get the figurine, they had a full box of them by the TV.

I just called my local BB and they didn't have any on display right now. If Sony really wanted to move Move units, they should have put these things on display months earlier and at more locations. They should have taken notes from Kinect. That thing doesn't come out till November but it was already on display a few months ago.
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#87 flazzle
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[QUOTE="flazzle"]

Minimum of 6 feet of distance?

Tedious 3 part colloboration routine before each game?

Tethered to the eye camera, to a point where you can't really move around?

All that for $100?!?! Sign me up!

killzowned24

It can work closer.In fact, Start The party gets closer in augmented reality so you can see the detail on the objects. Calibration is different for games , the 3 point calibration in Sports Champions can be done super fast and is no problem at all for the control it gives.

Tethered to the cam?? Um wat???

PS Eye that also works as webcam and has its own motion games and the best motion controller this gen plus a game is a good deal for $100.

Did you read the review?

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#88 djsifer01
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It has received several good reviews. Besides, thats MS.......oh wait C-Net.
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#89 killzowned24
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="flazzle"]

Minimum of 6 feet of distance?

Tedious 3 part colloboration routine before each game?

Tethered to the eye camera, to a point where you can't really move around?

All that for $100?!?! Sign me up!

flazzle

It can work closer.In fact, Start The party gets closer in augmented reality so you can see the detail on the objects. Calibration is different for games , the 3 point calibration in Sports Champions can be done super fast and is no problem at all for the control it gives.

Tethered to the cam?? Um wat???

PS Eye that also works as webcam and has its own motion games and the best motion controller this gen plus a game is a good deal for $100.

Did you read the review?

I skimmed through it. I still dont know what tethered to the cam could mean?? The cam see the game space ,how are you tethered and cant move when its all wireless?? Tethered would be the wiimote and nunchuck.
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It has received several good reviews. Besides, thats MS.......oh wait C-Net.djsifer01
you do know that C-net and Gamespot are divisions of the same company right?
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#91 djsifer01
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[QUOTE="djsifer01"]It has received several good reviews. Besides, thats MS.......oh wait C-Net.ferret-gamer
you do know that C-net and Gamespot are divisions of the same company right?

Yes, that dosent change the fact that Jeff reviewed Move and is completely bias towards MS. Divisions of the same company dosent change the fact C-net is know for MS bias.
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#92 Timstuff
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Move could be amazing as a Mudbox / Z-Brush utensil. Seeing the pottery tech demo really opened my eyes to the possibilities, so Sony should get in contact with Autodesk ASAP and see if they can make it happen. Add a pair of 3D glasses, and you have what's possibly the most effective modeling environment ever made. Why spend hundreds of dollars on a mechanical arm stylus when you can just buy a Move for $100 and it works way better?
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#93 XboximusPrime
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LMAO, you realize that this review was like one of the only negative one dont you? Everywhere else its been getting like 4/5 adn stuff like that. Its reviewing very well, atleast the hardware is.

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#94 nethernova
Member since 2008 • 5721 Posts

All that for $100?!?! Sign me up!

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I was actually surprised by that price tag because it will cost 56 Euro around here which is cheaper than the 60-70 Euro for one new game.
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#95 Anjunaddict
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Does Microsoft own Cnet ... or have i missed something :/
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#96 ItsBriskBaby
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Does Microsoft own Cnet ... or have i missed something :/Anjunaddict
yes they do.
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#97 flazzle
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I skimmed through it. I still dont know what tethered to the cam could mean?? The cam see the game space ,how are you tethered and cant move when its all wireless?? Tethered would be the wiimote and nunchuck.killzowned24

If you actually read the article the thread was based on, all your questions would be answered.

Why people respond to things ill-informed when the answer is a click away is beyond me

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#98 1Stark1
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[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] I don't even see many people hyped for Kinect, I don't see any ownage in either of them. TBH 3/5 is probably better than I expected.blue_hazy_basic
I can definitely think of one person in SW hyping Kinect.

The guy with the PS3>PC thread? Yea I'm saying fakeboy if thats true.

Did I miss the memo where its illegal to prefer something over the PC:?

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#99 louisfoxton
Member since 2007 • 1400 Posts

How could hardware flop, especially without any hype measurement?

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Lol i just said that to my self

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#100 WardCleaver02
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[QUOTE="djsifer01"]It has received several good reviews. Besides, thats MS.......oh wait C-Net.ferret-gamer
you do know that C-net and Gamespot are divisions of the same company right?

Yes, they are both part of CBS Interactive. CBS had a long standing relationship with. . .Sony. MS has had a long standing realtionship with NBC (MSNBC), one of CBS's rivals.

The Move seems to be solid, hardware-wise. However, the software seems to be subpar. I watched a review on Xplay for Start the Party(?) last night and the reviewer was pissed almost the entire time she was playing the game.