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#51 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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That Metacritic list is irrelevant when talking about AAA titles on Gamespot.raynimrod
The TC is not talking about AAA titles on Gamespot.
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#52 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Ok Golden Eye was the best fps ever also huh, but do not want to play it now in 09.GreyFoXX4
I was not talking about Goldeneye. I was talking about Halo 3. I'm not interested on it, but I hear from sources I trust it's still one of the best (if not the best) MP games out there. On games I can judge, Bioshock, also released in 2007, it's still better than the big vast majority of games released this or last year.
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#53 mitu123
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http://www.metacritic.com/games/xbox360/

Xbox 360 Top 20 list and scores.

1 Grand Theft Auto IV 98/ On ps3 aswell
2 BioShock 96 / On Ps3 aswell
3 Orange Box, The 96/ On ps3 aswell
4 Gears of War 94 / 360/pc
5 Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, The 94/ On ps3 aswell
6 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 94/ On ps3 aswell
7 Halo 3 94 / Exclusive 2 years old
8 Braid 93/ Arcade game
9 Street Fighter IV 93 / On ps3 aswell
10 Fallout 3 93/ On ps3 aswell
11 Gears of War 2 93 / Exclusive8 months old
12 Guitar Hero II 92 / On ps3 aswell
13 Rock Band 92/ On ps3 aswell
14 Rock Band 2 92 / On ps3 aswell
15 Mass Effect 91 / 360/pc
16 Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 90 / Exclusive somehow lol3 years old
17 Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned 90/ Expansion pack lmao
18 Portal: Still Alive 90 / Arcade download
19 BlazBlue: Calamity Trigger 90 /On ps3 aswell
20 Geometry Wars: Retro Evolve On ps3 aswell 2 90 / Arcade game





http://www.metacritic.com/games/ps3/


PS3 top 20 list and scores:

1 Grand Theft Auto IV 98
2 LittleBigPlanet 95 /Exclusive8 months old
3 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 94
4 BioShock 94
5 Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots 94 / Exclusive1 year old
6 Street Fighter IV 94
7 Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, The 93
8 Rock Band 92
9 BlazBlue: Calamity Trigger 91
10 Rock Band 2 91
11 Killzone 2 91 /Exclusive5 months old
12 Fallout 3 90
13 MLB 09: The Show 90 /Sony4 months old
14 Fight Night Round 4 89
15 Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction 89/ Exclusive1 year 8 months old
16 Orange Box, The 89
17 Dead Space 88
18 Uncharted: Drake's Fortune 88/ Exclusive 1 year 8 months old
19 NHL 09 88
20 Ninja Gaiden Sigma 88

So the 360's top 20 really consists of games that I can play on my ps3 or pc minus 3 games all of which are 8 months old or older. 2 of which are 2-3 years old lol. And I'm not even going to comment on expansion paks or arcade games, even though it does say alot when dlc and arcade games make your top 20 huh?

So now lets look, the 360 has 17 actual titles then in that top 20 excluding dlc and expansions, 3 actual exclusives and with pc included thats 5 games not actually on the ps3.

While the ps3 we have actual real games making up the top 20, 6 of which you can't play on the 360, actually 7 sorta lol. And 2 of the oldest exclusives are younger than 2 of the 3 actual exclusives listed for the 360. So really the ps3 has put out like 4-5 actual exclusives to ONE actual exclusive for the 360.

Long story short, the 360 actually needs more games and better games to me. All the other games your hyping I can play on my ps3 aswell. Or were you just feeling like showing all of us the 360's slim but old exclusive library?

GreyFoXX4

What does age have to do with quality, man, those 360 and PS3 exclusives are getting worse each day. And we've been over this many, many times about GRAW, why don't you fight for MLB 09 The Show, I would help you but you can't help yourself, neither can the cows. You cows keep talking about having the best exclusives but can't argue for some of them.

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#54 raynimrod
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[QUOTE="raynimrod"]That Metacritic list is irrelevant when talking about AAA titles on Gamespot.IronBass
The TC is not talking about AAA titles on Gamespot.



Correct me if I'm wrong, but the TC is talking about "AAA" games, and he or she is on Gamespot... :|

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the TC is talking about "AAA" games, and he or she is on Gamespot... :|raynimrod
He's talking about AAA games on Metacritic , which is a perfectly viable topic.
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http://www.metacritic.com/games/xbox360/

Xbox 360 Top 20 list and scores.

1 Grand Theft Auto IV 98
2 BioShock 96
3 Orange Box, The 96
4 Gears of War 94
5 Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, The 94
6 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 94
7 Halo 3 94
8 Braid 93
9 Street Fighter IV 93
10 Fallout 3 93
11 Gears of War 2 93
12 Guitar Hero II 92
13 Rock Band 92
14 Rock Band 2 92
15 Mass Effect 91
16 Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 90
17 Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned 90
18 Portal: Still Alive 90
19 BlazBlue: Calamity Trigger 90
20 Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved 2 90





http://www.metacritic.com/games/ps3/


PS3 top 20 list and scores:

1 Grand Theft Auto IV 98
2 LittleBigPlanet 95
3 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 94
4 BioShock 94
5 Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots 94
6 Street Fighter IV 94
7 Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, The 93
8 Rock Band 92
9 BlazBlue: Calamity Trigger 91
10 Rock Band 2 91
11 Killzone 2 91
12 Fallout 3 90
13 MLB 09: The Show 90
14 Fight Night Round 4 89
15 Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction 89
16 Orange Box, The 89
17 Dead Space 88
18 Uncharted: Drake's Fortune 88
19 NHL 09 88
20 Ninja Gaiden Sigma 88





On the 360's top 20 list, there isn't a single game that has below a 90 on its metascore. On the PS3's list, however, it drops below 90 for the last 6 entries.

The PS3 needs to catch up, this is unacceptable.

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Do you even know how metacritic scores are calculated? Last I checked all games on both of those lists are in the green. I fail to see what your point is. You expect me to believe that because games AVERAGE score on the ps3's list goes below 90 by two points that we need more good game. Dude get out more. Thanks.

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#57 KratosTwin
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We could argue about scores and sources and opinions all we want, but the fact is (yes FACT) this is not 2007 andthere is more than plenty to play for the PS3 now, and in the future. So it doesn't "need more games." That ship has sailed 2 years ago.

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[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]

http://www.metacritic.com/games/xbox360/

Xbox 360 Top 20 list and scores.

1 Grand Theft Auto IV 98/ On ps3 aswell
2 BioShock 96 / On Ps3 aswell
3 Orange Box, The 96/ On ps3 aswell
4 Gears of War 94 / 360/pc
5 Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, The 94/ On ps3 aswell
6 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 94/ On ps3 aswell
7 Halo 3 94 / Exclusive 2 years old
8 Braid 93/ Arcade game
9 Street Fighter IV 93 / On ps3 aswell
10 Fallout 3 93/ On ps3 aswell
11 Gears of War 2 93 / Exclusive8 months old
12 Guitar Hero II 92 / On ps3 aswell
13 Rock Band 92/ On ps3 aswell
14 Rock Band 2 92 / On ps3 aswell
15 Mass Effect 91 / 360/pc
16 Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 90 / Exclusive somehow lol3 years old
17 Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned 90/ Expansion pack lmao
18 Portal: Still Alive 90 / Arcade download
19 BlazBlue: Calamity Trigger 90 /On ps3 aswell
20 Geometry Wars: Retro Evolve On ps3 aswell 2 90 / Arcade game





http://www.metacritic.com/games/ps3/


PS3 top 20 list and scores:

1 Grand Theft Auto IV 98
2 LittleBigPlanet 95 /Exclusive8 months old
3 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 94
4 BioShock 94
5 Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots 94 / Exclusive1 year old
6 Street Fighter IV 94
7 Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, The 93
8 Rock Band 92
9 BlazBlue: Calamity Trigger 91
10 Rock Band 2 91
11 Killzone 2 91 /Exclusive5 months old
12 Fallout 3 90
13 MLB 09: The Show 90 /Sony4 months old
14 Fight Night Round 4 89
15 Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction 89/ Exclusive1 year 8 months old
16 Orange Box, The 89
17 Dead Space 88
18 Uncharted: Drake's Fortune 88/ Exclusive 1 year 8 months old
19 NHL 09 88
20 Ninja Gaiden Sigma 88

So the 360's top 20 really consists of games that I can play on my ps3 or pc minus 3 games all of which are 8 months old or older. 2 of which are 2-3 years old lol. And I'm not even going to comment on expansion paks or arcade games, even though it does say alot when dlc and arcade games make your top 20 huh?

So now lets look, the 360 has 17 actual titles then in that top 20 excluding dlc and expansions, 3 actual exclusives and with pc included thats 5 games not actually on the ps3.

While the ps3 we have actual real games making up the top 20, 6 of which you can't play on the 360, actually 7 sorta lol. And 2 of the oldest exclusives are younger than 2 of the 3 actual exclusives listed for the 360. So really the ps3 has put out like 4-5 actual exclusives to ONE actual exclusive for the 360.

Long story short, the 360 actually needs more games and better games to me. All the other games your hyping I can play on my ps3 aswell. Or were you just feeling like showing all of us the 360's slim but old exclusive library?

mitu123

What does age have to do with quality, man, those 360 and PS3 exclusives are getting worse each day. And we've been over this many, many times about GRAW, why don't you fight for MLB 09 The Show, I would help you but you can't help yourself, neither can the cows. You cows keep talking about having the best exclusives but can't argue for some of them.

LOL, why do I need to argue for MLB 09 "The Show", think its got your attention already. The game speaks for itself. And the reason age of a game is important is because it is getting LONGER AND LONGER between MS's actual exclusives or longer between Great or good exclusives. This is very note worthy actually, cause it shows a drop off in quality exclusives, more like a drastic drop off, but you see my point. In which shows a decline in a systems importance in this generation.

The 360 may be cheap but it definitly isn't turning out quality titles like it did in its first 1 1/2 years on the market, and lack of 1st party devs or 2nd party devs for MS is the reason and the reason that the 360 want ever be the only console you will need to own. You get in now for being cheap and later you realise man theres alot of games over on the ps3 that are out or coming out that I can't play. All the while by having that ps3 I'm only like missing 2 games for the 360 I can't play.

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#59 raynimrod
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[QUOTE="raynimrod"]Correct me if I'm wrong, but the TC is talking about "AAA" games, and he or she is on Gamespot... :|IronBass
He's talking about AAA games on Metacritic , which is a perfectly viable topic.



And that's fine, but they hold no weight here - which is my point. The games aren't considered AAA unless they scored such here.

I could have sworn you'd been involved in many a discussion on this topic and Casey advised what did and didn't matter?

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#60 finalfantasy94
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Well more games would be nice. Even though it has a good libary so far.

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#61 jakehouston88
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"PS3 needs more [good] games."

Have you seen the 2009 - 2010 lineup = :D:D:D

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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]

http://www.metacritic.com/games/xbox360/

Xbox 360 Top 20 list and scores.

1 Grand Theft Auto IV 98/ On ps3 aswell
2 BioShock 96 / On Ps3 aswell
3 Orange Box, The 96/ On ps3 aswell
4 Gears of War 94 / 360/pc
5 Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, The 94/ On ps3 aswell
6 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 94/ On ps3 aswell
7 Halo 3 94 / Exclusive 2 years old
8 Braid 93/ Arcade game
9 Street Fighter IV 93 / On ps3 aswell
10 Fallout 3 93/ On ps3 aswell
11 Gears of War 2 93 / Exclusive8 months old
12 Guitar Hero II 92 / On ps3 aswell
13 Rock Band 92/ On ps3 aswell
14 Rock Band 2 92 / On ps3 aswell
15 Mass Effect 91 / 360/pc
16 Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 90 / Exclusive somehow lol3 years old
17 Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned 90/ Expansion pack lmao
18 Portal: Still Alive 90 / Arcade download
19 BlazBlue: Calamity Trigger 90 /On ps3 aswell
20 Geometry Wars: Retro Evolve On ps3 aswell 2 90 / Arcade game





http://www.metacritic.com/games/ps3/


PS3 top 20 list and scores:

1 Grand Theft Auto IV 98
2 LittleBigPlanet 95 /Exclusive8 months old
3 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 94
4 BioShock 94
5 Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots 94 / Exclusive1 year old
6 Street Fighter IV 94
7 Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, The 93
8 Rock Band 92
9 BlazBlue: Calamity Trigger 91
10 Rock Band 2 91
11 Killzone 2 91 /Exclusive5 months old
12 Fallout 3 90
13 MLB 09: The Show 90 /Sony4 months old
14 Fight Night Round 4 89
15 Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction 89/ Exclusive1 year 8 months old
16 Orange Box, The 89
17 Dead Space 88
18 Uncharted: Drake's Fortune 88/ Exclusive 1 year 8 months old
19 NHL 09 88
20 Ninja Gaiden Sigma 88

So the 360's top 20 really consists of games that I can play on my ps3 or pc minus 3 games all of which are 8 months old or older. 2 of which are 2-3 years old lol. And I'm not even going to comment on expansion paks or arcade games, even though it does say alot when dlc and arcade games make your top 20 huh?

So now lets look, the 360 has 17 actual titles then in that top 20 excluding dlc and expansions, 3 actual exclusives and with pc included thats 5 games not actually on the ps3.

While the ps3 we have actual real games making up the top 20, 6 of which you can't play on the 360, actually 7 sorta lol. And 2 of the oldest exclusives are younger than 2 of the 3 actual exclusives listed for the 360. So really the ps3 has put out like 4-5 actual exclusives to ONE actual exclusive for the 360.

Long story short, the 360 actually needs more games and better games to me. All the other games your hyping I can play on my ps3 aswell. Or were you just feeling like showing all of us the 360's slim but old exclusive library?

GreyFoXX4

What does age have to do with quality, man, those 360 and PS3 exclusives are getting worse each day. And we've been over this many, many times about GRAW, why don't you fight for MLB 09 The Show, I would help you but you can't help yourself, neither can the cows. You cows keep talking about having the best exclusives but can't argue for some of them.

LOL, why do I need to argue for MLB 09 "The Show", think its got your attention already. The game speaks for itself. And the reason age of a game is important is because it is getting LONGER AND LONGER between MS's actual exclusives or longer between Great or good exclusives. This is very note worthy actually, cause it shows a drop off in quality exclusives, more like a drastic drop off, but you see my point. In which shows a decline in a systems importance in this generation.

The 360 may be cheap but it definitly isn't turning out quality titles like it did in its first 1 1/2 years on the market, and lack of 1st party devs or 2nd party devs for MS is the reason and the reason that the 360 want ever be the only console you will need to own. You get in now for being cheap and later you realise man theres alot of games over on the ps3 that are out or coming out that I can't play. All the while by having that ps3 I'm only like missing 2 games for the 360 I can't play.

Yes, it does take too long for MS to get more AAA quality exclusives, and I'm disappointed, that's why I got a PS3, LOL. There's like 2 exclusives for 360 this year they may get AA-AAA. And MS's 1st and 2nd party do suck. It isn't looking good, I wanted the 360 to outdo the PS3, looks like that won't happen.

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And that's fine, but they hold no weight here - which is my point. raynimrod
They hold weight in this thread, which is the TC's point. This thread uses Metacritic scores, which is perfectly viable.
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Ps3 has plently good games...

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#65 raynimrod
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Ps3 has plently good games...

ps3wizard45



I agree, the thread suggests that there aren't enough, when in reality, there are.

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#66 ActicEdge
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Every console/system needs more good games. I personally wish they would branch and try to appeal to everyone with high quality titles in all genres instead of dominating one genre and bbeing garbage in another. PS3 has good games though, I just think it needs more variety.