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#1 Stonin
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Direct from the Motorstorm review here on Gamespot:

'Sure, there's some ugly textures that crop up now and again, and the frame rate tends to dip during particularly destruction-heavy moments (split-screen would have probably murdered it altogether),'

When I played Gears split screen for the first time I have to say I was pretty amazed.  I expected to find a noticeable loss of quality or drop in framerate....I experienced neither.

Does F1 have split screen mode? Honest question as I really don't know.  In fact do any PS3 games run in split-screen mode? Maybe it simply isn't powerful enough?

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#2 thirstychainsaw
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Or the developers are too lazy to figure out the PS3 hardware, but I can't blame them, I've heard it can be "difficult."
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#3 renger6002
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Or the developers are too lazy to figure out the PS3 hardware, but I can't blame them, I've heard it can be "difficult."thirstychainsaw
um... correct me if I'm wrong, but this is a Sony game

EDIT: I'm wrong, its just published by Sony

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#4 Daytona_178
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That is interesting!
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#5 renger6002
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anyways, I thnk this is taking it a bit too far. The PS3 isn't that weak.
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#6 Hir0_N
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bu bu teh supercompurer dual 1080p 120 fps 4d :cry:
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#7 PyroXD
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Direct from the Motorstorm review here on Gamespot:

'Sure, there's some ugly textures that crop up now and again, and the frame rate tends to dip during particularly destruction-heavy moments (split-screen would have probably murdered it altogether),'

When I played Gears split screen for the first time I have to say I was pretty amazed. I expected to find a noticeable loss of quality or drop in framerate....I experienced neither.

Does F1 have split screen mode? Honest question as I really don't know. In fact do any PS3 games run in split-screen mode? Maybe it simply isn't powerful enough?

Stonin
Resistance?...
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#8 johnusabeis
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its published by sony.
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#9 reaperstoll
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Direct from the Motorstorm review here on Gamespot:

'Sure, there's some ugly textures that crop up now and again, and the frame rate tends to dip during particularly destruction-heavy moments (split-screen would have probably murdered it altogether),'

When I played Gears split screen for the first time I have to say I was pretty amazed. I expected to find a noticeable loss of quality or drop in framerate....I experienced neither.

Does F1 have split screen mode? Honest question as I really don't know. In fact do any PS3 games run in split-screen mode? Maybe it simply isn't powerful enough?

Stonin
Resistance runs in split screen if i remember correctly, haven't played co op in weeks. When my friend and I played together I didn't notice any drop in quality, even at the most intense parts in the game
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#10 jxditu
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so you cant play motorstorm with a friend in 2 player mode? thats alittle harshm but i guess since you can play online its ok.

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#11 Koolsen
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So the N64 could handle it but not PS3?
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#13 ishxan
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[QUOTE="Stonin"]

Direct from the Motorstorm review here on Gamespot:

'Sure, there's some ugly textures that crop up now and again, and the frame rate tends to dip during particularly destruction-heavy moments (split-screen would have probably murdered it altogether),'

When I played Gears split screen for the first time I have to say I was pretty amazed. I expected to find a noticeable loss of quality or drop in framerate....I experienced neither.

Does F1 have split screen mode? Honest question as I really don't know. In fact do any PS3 games run in split-screen mode? Maybe it simply isn't powerful enough?

reaperstoll
Resistance runs in split screen if i remember correctly, haven't played co op in weeks. When my friend and I played together I didn't notice any drop in quality, even at the most intense parts in the game

ROFM is a PS 2.5 game, it does not look very next gen...
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#14 Stonin
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[QUOTE="Stonin"]

Direct from the Motorstorm review here on Gamespot:

'Sure, there's some ugly textures that crop up now and again, and the frame rate tends to dip during particularly destruction-heavy moments (split-screen would have probably murdered it altogether),'

When I played Gears split screen for the first time I have to say I was pretty amazed. I expected to find a noticeable loss of quality or drop in framerate....I experienced neither.

Does F1 have split screen mode? Honest question as I really don't know. In fact do any PS3 games run in split-screen mode? Maybe it simply isn't powerful enough?

reaperstoll
Resistance runs in split screen if i remember correctly, haven't played co op in weeks. When my friend and I played together I didn't notice any drop in quality, even at the most intense parts in the game

Ah well that's cool, at least it can actually do it.
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Wow man...the TC should just do the world a favor and kill himself...we dont want his idiot genes passing on through the generations....(now i silently wait for my moderation...)Viviath
wow someone is alittle pissed today.
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#16 Felix_120192
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dont be ignorant, the ps3 can fully handle split screen the thing is, the developers cant... its the developer who code everything and well... if you know the insane amount of  work it takes to code the physics etc.. and then add another car.... etc.. etc.. all the lighting x2, all these things have to be coded by the developers, the system doesnt just do it by itself.
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#17 Stonin
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Wow man...the TC should just do the world a favor and kill himself...we dont want his idiot genes passing on through the generations....(now i silently wait for my moderation...)Viviath
lol well i'm not going to report you. Perhaps it was a little harsh though ;).
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#18 ZeLeam
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Direct from the Motorstorm review here on Gamespot:

'Sure, there's some ugly textures that crop up now and again, and the frame rate tends to dip during particularly destruction-heavy moments (split-screen would have probably murdered it altogether),'

When I played Gears split screen for the first time I have to say I was pretty amazed. I expected to find a noticeable loss of quality or drop in framerate....I experienced neither.

Does F1 have split screen mode? Honest question as I really don't know. In fact do any PS3 games run in split-screen mode? Maybe it simply isn't powerful enough?

Stonin
Woah, i didnt know that GS worked in the motorstorm development. Seriusly, is not like sony PR doesnt give funny stuff to laugh at now and then and it's necesary to dig this stupid things out... On answer to your question, yes, other ps3 games run in splitscreen, like resistance.
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#19 MTBare
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I hate this trend in games going to online over split screen. My favorite is R6.. lying to me on the cover and in the manual. I want my ******* money back.
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#20 Stonin
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dont be ignorant, the ps3 can fully handle split screen the thing is, the developers cant... its the developer who code everything and well... if you know the insane amount of  work it takes to code the physics etc.. and then add another car.... etc.. etc.. all the lighting x2, all these things have to be coded by the developers, the system doesnt just do it by itself.Felix_120192
True, but the system should make it easy for the developers to achieve. I mean this is the most powerful next-gen system right?
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#21 Sooshy
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I'm getting kind of tired of people giving the excuse "It's because the developers are too lazy to learn the hardware." It's not their fault Sony made the system hard to develop for. If Sony wants third parties to get everything they can out of the system, they should have made it easier.
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#22 Viviath
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[QUOTE="Viviath"]Wow man...the TC should just do the world a favor and kill himself...we dont want his idiot genes passing on through the generations....(now i silently wait for my moderation...)jxditu
wow someone is alittle pissed today.

Im sorry if i come off like that, its just that people dont even bother to think before they post these days....its like claiming Gun 360 is an example of the 360s maximum potential.
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Bu But t3h C3ll!1! :cry:
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bu bu teh supercompurer dual 1080p 120 fps 4d :cry:Hir0_N


dont come up in here and start that ****....tired of fanboys like you ranting all over these forums with immature responses.
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#25 -The-G-Man-
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There's a reason that Gears only supports 2 player split, Crackdown doesn't have offline co-op, and Motorstorm doesn't have split.
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[QUOTE="Viviath"]Wow man...the TC should just do the world a favor and kill himself...we dont want his idiot genes passing on through the generations....(now i silently wait for my moderation...)Stonin
lol well i'm not going to report you. Perhaps it was a little harsh though ;).

I've been modded for calling someone an idiot. O_o
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[QUOTE="Hir0_N"]bu bu teh supercompurer dual 1080p 120 fps 4d :cry:djxaquaxblue


dont come up in here and start that ****....tired of fanboys like you ranting all over these forums with immature responses.

This probably isn't a good forum for you to post in then. lol.
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When I played Gears split screen for the first time I have to say I was pretty amazed. I expected to find a noticeable loss of quality or drop in framerate....I experienced neither.Stonin


Liar.
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[QUOTE="reaperstoll"][QUOTE="Stonin"]

Direct from the Motorstorm review here on Gamespot:

'Sure, there's some ugly textures that crop up now and again, and the frame rate tends to dip during particularly destruction-heavy moments (split-screen would have probably murdered it altogether),'

When I played Gears split screen for the first time I have to say I was pretty amazed. I expected to find a noticeable loss of quality or drop in framerate....I experienced neither.

Does F1 have split screen mode? Honest question as I really don't know. In fact do any PS3 games run in split-screen mode? Maybe it simply isn't powerful enough?

ishxan
Resistance runs in split screen if i remember correctly, haven't played co op in weeks. When my friend and I played together I didn't notice any drop in quality, even at the most intense parts in the game

ROFM is a PS 2.5 game, it does not look very next gen...

what ROFM..?
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[QUOTE="reaperstoll"][QUOTE="Stonin"]

Direct from the Motorstorm review here on Gamespot:

'Sure, there's some ugly textures that crop up now and again, and the frame rate tends to dip during particularly destruction-heavy moments (split-screen would have probably murdered it altogether),'

When I played Gears split screen for the first time I have to say I was pretty amazed. I expected to find a noticeable loss of quality or drop in framerate....I experienced neither.

Does F1 have split screen mode? Honest question as I really don't know. In fact do any PS3 games run in split-screen mode? Maybe it simply isn't powerful enough?

ishxan
Resistance runs in split screen if i remember correctly, haven't played co op in weeks. When my friend and I played together I didn't notice any drop in quality, even at the most intense parts in the game

ROFM is a PS 2.5 game, it does not look very next gen...

okay, :roll:
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#31 Stonin
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[QUOTE="jxditu"][QUOTE="Viviath"]Wow man...the TC should just do the world a favor and kill himself...we dont want his idiot genes passing on through the generations....(now i silently wait for my moderation...)Viviath
wow someone is alittle pissed today.

Im sorry if i come off like that, its just that people dont even bother to think before they post these days....its like claiming Gun 360 is an example of the 360s maximum potential.

Hardly.... Still, even though resistance runs ok split-screen it is hardly a graphically intensive game. I've yet to see the power unleashed I suppose.
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#32 Stonin
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[QUOTE="Stonin"]When I played Gears split screen for the first time I have to say I was pretty amazed. I expected to find a noticeable loss of quality or drop in framerate....I experienced neither.Amnesiacx


Liar.

Play it, the game does all of the talking.
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#33 Omni-Slash
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..please...if the PSone could run split screen the PS3 can as well.....
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#34 Stonin
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..please...if the PSone could run split screen the PS3 can as well.....Omni-Slash
Not really doubting that it can do it...just that it can't do it with any of it's better looking games.
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I hate this trend in games going to online over split screen. My favorite is R6.. lying to me on the cover and in the manual. I want my ******* money back.MTBare
i am 100% with you it pissed me off.me and some friends went looking for a 4 player game and thought we got it easy but we took it home about 3 months ago and havent played it since!!!
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#36 Omni-Slash
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[QUOTE="Stonin"] Not really doubting that it can do it...just that it can't do it with any of it's better looking games.

it will.....early gne games never optimize a consoles capabilities.....call it lazy programing...call it unfimiliararity.......just doens't happen....in regards to motostorm...the title was rushed to get something on the shelf...no-one releases a single player racing game.......(non-online)
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#37 -L-U-I-S-
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[QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"]Or the developers are too lazy to figure out the PS3 hardware, but I can't blame them, I've heard it can be "difficult."renger6002

um... correct me if I'm wrong, but this is a Sony game

EDIT: I'm wrong, its just published by Sony

But developed by Evolution Studios, unless ES is part of Sony that is
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#38 CarlosPontinas
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Why can't people accept the truth? What's it going to take? This machine is flawed. It's the best kept secret in the world it seems.
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Resistance does.
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#40 cakeorrdeath
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I'm not liking this trend of no offline multiplayer in games. I like to play with people in the same room as me.
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#41 Stonin
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[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"][QUOTE="Stonin"] Not really doubting that it can do it...just that it can't do it with any of it's better looking games.

it will.....early gne games never optimize a consoles capabilities.....call it lazy programing...call it unfimiliararity.......just doens't happen....in regards to motostorm...the title was rushed to get something on the shelf...no-one releases a single player racing game.......(non-online)

Kameo was an early 360 game that looked great and played split-screen.
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#42 Omni-Slash
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[QUOTE="Stonin"] Kameo was an early 360 game that looked great and played split-screen.

it looked okay....not great.....and it's tough to say how good they could make this.....it could look great...but jsut not up to their standards.....like I said...more than likely it was scrapped because they wanted the title on the shelf....
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I'm not liking this trend of no offline multiplayer in games. I like to play with people in the same room as me.cakeorrdeath
Do your cat count as one of those people?
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#44 ZeLeam
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[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"][QUOTE="Stonin"] Kameo was an early 360 game that looked great and played split-screen.

it looked okay....not great.....and it's tough to say how good they could make this.....it could look great...but jsut not up to their standards.....like I said...more than likely it was scrapped because they wanted the title on the shelf....

Yeah, the japanese version didnt even have online. Obviusly the devs were in a tight timetable
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#45 Stonin
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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]I'm not liking this trend of no offline multiplayer in games. I like to play with people in the same room as me.shungokustasu
Do your cat count as one of those people?

There's....I'm....well I.....speechless.
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[QUOTE="Stonin"]

Direct from the Motorstorm review here on Gamespot:

'Sure, there's some ugly textures that crop up now and again, and the frame rate tends to dip during particularly destruction-heavy moments (split-screen would have probably murdered it altogether),'

When I played Gears split screen for the first time I have to say I was pretty amazed. I expected to find a noticeable loss of quality or drop in framerate....I experienced neither.

Does F1 have split screen mode? Honest question as I really don't know. In fact do any PS3 games run in split-screen mode? Maybe it simply isn't powerful enough?

PyroXD

Resistance?...

   Yes, I've played Resistance split screen with my cousins.

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Direct from the Motorstorm review here on Gamespot:

'Sure, there's some ugly textures that crop up now and again, and the frame rate tends to dip during particularly destruction-heavy moments (split-screen would have probably murdered it altogether),'

When I played Gears split screen for the first time I have to say I was pretty amazed. I expected to find a noticeable loss of quality or drop in framerate....I experienced neither.

Does F1 have split screen mode? Honest question as I really don't know. In fact do any PS3 games run in split-screen mode? Maybe it simply isn't powerful enough?

Stonin
they have split on resistance.
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#49 Teuf_
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Split-screen isn't a burden on the graphics, since you're just rendering 2 half-size viewports.  The number of pixels you ultimate output is the same as single-player.  What is a problem is physics, which there's a whole lot of in Motorstorm.  Two crashes at the same time would probably kill the frame-rate.
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#50 jojobebbejoojoj
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..please...if the PSone could run split screen the PS3 can as well.....Omni-Slash

playstation 3 wasnt powerful enough to handle motorstorm at the level of graphics it's currently running with  devs current knownledge about the hardware..maybe later if the future, now they dont know how to retain that level of graphics splitscreen  at playable framerates.