PS3 officially 2nd place, 360 now last place

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

Well like the lems always say shipped doesn't equal sold so that the PS3 outsold the 360 and is in 2nd place now could very well be true.

lundy86_4

It could very well be true, but it seems rather unlikely in the limited timeframe since the release of their official shipped numbers. Obviously demand has increased for the PS3 since 2007 though.

Shipped is sold, just not through to the consumer end, thus their shipped numbers =/= total userbase.

Well I'm more interested in how many units consumers like us bought then how many MS/SONY/Nintendo shipped. Shipped may be sold for the big 3 but it's not a sold unit in my eyes until it's actually bought through retail or online. So shipped numbers are nothing to go by unless you have some stock in either of the companies.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

Well like the lems always say shipped doesn't equal sold so that the PS3 outsold the 360 and is in 2nd place now could very well be true.

UnrealDelusion

It could very well be true, but it seems rather unlikely in the limited timeframe since the release of their official shipped numbers. Obviously demand has increased for the PS3 since 2007 though.

Shipped is sold, just not through to the consumer end, thus their shipped numbers =/= total userbase.

Well I'm more interested in how many units consumers like us bought then how many MS/SONY/Nintendo shipped. Shipped may be sold for the big 3 but it's not a sold unit in my eyes until it's actually bought through retail or online. So shipped numbers are nothing to go by unless you have some stock in either of the companies.

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

It could very well be true, but it seems rather unlikely in the limited timeframe since the release of their official shipped numbers. Obviously demand has increased for the PS3 since 2007 though.

Shipped is sold, just not through to the consumer end, thus their shipped numbers =/= total userbase.

Ravensmash

Well I'm more interested in how many units consumers like us bought then how many MS/SONY/Nintendo shipped. Shipped may be sold for the big 3 but it's not a sold unit in my eyes until it's actually bought through retail or online. So shipped numbers are nothing to go by unless you have some stock in either of the companies.

Just because their not availble doesn't change the fact that a unit is only sold when a consumer buys it.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

Well I'm more interested in how many units consumers like us bought then how many MS/SONY/Nintendo shipped. Shipped may be sold for the big 3 but it's not a sold unit in my eyes until it's actually bought through retail or online. So shipped numbers are nothing to go by unless you have some stock in either of the companies.

UnrealDelusion

Just because their not availble doesn't change the fact that a unit is only sold when a consumer buys it.

Well I'm more interested in how many units consumers like us bought then how many MS/SONY/Nintendo shipped. Shipped may be sold for the big 3 but it's not a sold unit in my eyes until it's actually bought through retail or online. So shipped numbers are nothing to go by unless you have some stock in either of the companies.

UnrealDelusion

It would certainly be more interesting, though impossible to determine. You go by what you have, and what we have are officially shipped numbers.

Whether you see them as sold or not, they are. They are just not indicative of the userbase, considering shipped numbers will always be higher.

[QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] Well good luck finding those numbers....Ravensmash

Just because their not availble doesn't change the fact that a unit is only sold when a consumer buys it.

just because MS shipped 44.6m units (or whatever the number) is doesn't mean they are all sold so it's more then likely the PS3 is 1m in the lead now since it has been outselling the 360 WW for quite some time now. That's all i'm saying. I'm not saying it is 2nd place just that is plausible if you take in account the fact of the PS3 outselling the 360 WW for some years now.

It doesn't really matter seeing as how both consoles are so close in sales that arguing over a such small difference is ridiculous. Do people really need to feel validated on there purchase through what is the most popular console in order to be happy with it?

seriously?

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

Just because their not availble doesn't change the fact that a unit is only sold when a consumer buys it.

UnrealDelusion

just because MS shipped 44.6m units (or whatever the number) is doesn't mean they are all sold so it's more then likely the PS3 is 1m in the lead now since it has been outselling the 360 WW for quite some time now. That's all i'm saying. I'm not saying it is 2nd place just that is plausible if you take in account the fact of the PS3 outselling the 360 WW for some years now.

It's not plausible.

This thread should be locked for spreading misinformation.

There are no worldwide sold-through numbers only manufacturer released shipped/sold to retail/sold-in/whatever else anyone wants to call it numbers.

[QUOTE="farnham"]

last place selling and first place treatment is better then first place selling and last place treatment though

hiryu3

It doesn't really matter seeing as how both consoles are so close in sales that arguing over a such small difference is ridiculous. Do people really need to feel validated on there purchase through what is the most popular console in order to be happy with it?

seriously?

XileLord

Well I don't since the only console I own alongside my PC is the WII.

damn thats awesome, PS3 caught up NICELYYY!!!!!!

damn thats awesome, PS3 caught up NICELYYY!!!!!!

right4dead

PS3 is on the 360s heels now. PS3 will pass 360 in 2011.

Nice, PS3 caught up nicely after being a whole year back, and all those people re-buying their broken 360s, nice!!!

right4dead

Indeed, nice, if it was not fake news anda mileading thread

But in real world, xbox 360 is 5 million ahead of PS3 worldwideand 10 million ahead of PS3 in US, by latest actual numbers

False numbers this thread should be locked imo. :)

The 360 is at 44.6 million according to MS themselves, so the 360 is still 2nd place.racing1750

The 360 is at 44.6 million according to MS themselves, so the 360 is still 2nd place.racing1750

Greenberg confirmed more than 45 million 360 sold, that is the latest info and is 3-5 million ahead of PS3

Also that was before Kinect, now 360 is outseling PS3 monthly worldwide

[QUOTE="racing1750"]The 360 is at 44.6 million according to MS themselves, so the 360 is still 2nd place.AbleFa3

Greenberg confirmed more than 45 million 360 sold, that is the latest info and is 3-5 million ahead of PS3

Are you assuming the PS3 hasn't sold? :?

[QUOTE="racing1750"]The 360 is at 44.6 million according to MS themselves, so the 360 is still 2nd place.AbleFa3

Greenberg confirmed more than 45 million 360 sold, that is the latest info and is 3-5 million ahead of PS3

[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

[QUOTE="racing1750"]The 360 is at 44.6 million according to MS themselves, so the 360 is still 2nd place.lundy86_4

Greenberg confirmed more than 45 million 360 sold, that is the latest info and is 3-5 million ahead of PS3

Are you assuming the PS3 hasn't sold? :?

Sony releases shiped, remember Move units, that was supposed to have sold 3 million the first day !!! Which of course was a joke to even imply this would be sold and not shipped

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=118793

11/01/10

There are OVER45 million consoles sold in 35 countries.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

Greenberg confirmed more than 45 million 360 sold, that is the latest info and is 3-5 million ahead of PS3

AbleFa3

Are you assuming the PS3 hasn't sold? :?

Sony releases shiped, remember Move units, that was supposed to have sold 3 million the first day !!! Which of course was a joke to even imply this would be sold and not shipped

Both companies release shipped numbers. Their official numbers are *both* shipped. Tracking sales through to the consumer end is incresibly difficult, and even sources like NPD don't get the whole picture.

Dude,I have no idea who to believe anymore. NPD goes out the window, everything goes to pot.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

Greenberg confirmed more than 45 million 360 sold, that is the latest info and is 3-5 million ahead of PS3

AbleFa3

Are you assuming the PS3 hasn't sold? :?

Sony releases shiped, remember Move units, that was supposed to have sold 3 million the first day !!! Which of course was a joke to even imply this would be sold and not shipped

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=118793

11/01/10

There are OVER45 million consoles sold in 35 countries.

All these threads comparing numbers of consoles sold are hilarious. Unless you're invested in Sony stock at the exclusion of MS stock (or vice versa) why do you care?

All these threads comparing numbers of consoles sold are hilarious. Unless you're invested in Sony stock at the exclusion of MS stock (or vice versa) why do you care?

redbird19

All these threads comparing numbers of consoles sold are hilarious. Unless you're invested in Sony stock at the exclusion of MS stock (or vice versa) why do you care?

redbird19

It's interesting to look at the market beyond the games and what games are coming.

this is funny

All these threads comparing numbers of consoles sold are hilarious. Unless you're invested in Sony stock at the exclusion of MS stock (or vice versa) why do you care?

redbird19

I'll start to care when games stop coming, but till then...

[QUOTE="redbird19"]

All these threads comparing numbers of consoles sold are hilarious. Unless you're invested in Sony stock at the exclusion of MS stock (or vice versa) why do you care?

blue_hazy_basic

Yeah, so let's talk about, you know, the systems, and not compare business plans, marketing, or stock prices.

It's like you all are arguing about sports and arguing which team is better by comparing payroll numbers or number of bobble-heads sold, instead of talking about rosters, win-loss record, or style of play, etc.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="redbird19"]

All these threads comparing numbers of consoles sold are hilarious. Unless you're invested in Sony stock at the exclusion of MS stock (or vice versa) why do you care?

redbird19

Yeah, so let's talk about, you know, the systems, and not compare business plans, marketing, or stock prices.

It's like you all are arguing about sports and arguing which team is better by comparing payroll numbers or number of bobble-heads sold, instead of talking about rosters, win-loss record, or style of play, etc.

I think wins/losses is relevent with a sales figures. ;)

like i said before, we only use official quarterly results.

good, maybe you guys will finally feel validated about your purchase and be able to live with yourselves.

Riverwolf007

lol, you mean like lemmings have been doing for the past 5 years?

at least cows havnt sunk$250+ into basic online play access.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="redbird19"]

All these threads comparing numbers of consoles sold are hilarious. Unless you're invested in Sony stock at the exclusion of MS stock (or vice versa) why do you care?

Yeah, so let's talk about, you know, the systems, and not compare business plans, marketing, or stock prices.

It's like you all are arguing about sports and arguing which team is better by comparing payroll numbers or number of bobble-heads sold, instead of talking about rosters, win-loss record, or style of play, etc.

i just realized what if Nintendo shipped 75 million but only sold 35 million and weve been lied to this whole time... lol that would be extremely funny and there are stockrooms of unbought wii's all across the world

edit: oh and pc says high wondering why you fight over such silly low patheitc numbers, heck even apple puts up better numbers than these 3 lol

Damn, 4 pages based on fake numbers having to do with Microsoft and Sony switching places, I can only imagine what would go down if it actually happens.FIipMode

Sales don't matter. Lol we still have more AAA. Cows are Hypocrites. Lems are Hypocrites. Wii is totally a fad. Return of the PS dominance. Lol u mad. Lots of moderations. About 20 pages on the same subject claiming ownage or damage controlling. More Moderations. Suicide Treads. New Accounts. Even More Moderations.

The wii is high quality for 200 bones. The xbox 360to me....and i have owned 2 of them....has great games but the console itself is crap. Both of my 360 have broke beyond repair on their own accord. I will never buy another ms console again. Ps3 is good though but the wii is just as good for its price.

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]Damn, 4 pages based on fake numbers having to do with Microsoft and Sony switching places, I can only imagine what would go down if it actually happens.Lionheart08

Sales don't matter. Lol we still have more AAA. Cows are Hypocrites. Lems are Hypocrites. Wii is totally a fad. Return of the PS dominance. Lol u mad. Lots of moderations. About 20 pages on the same subject claiming ownage or damage controlling. More Moderations. Suicide Treads. New Accounts. Even More Moderations.

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]Damn, 4 pages based on fake numbers having to do with Microsoft and Sony switching places, I can only imagine what would go down if it actually happens.Lionheart08

Sales don't matter. Lol we still have more AAA. Cows are Hypocrites. Lems are Hypocrites. Wii is totally a fad. Return of the PS dominance. Lol u mad. Lots of moderations. About 20 pages on the same subject claiming ownage or damage controlling. More Moderations. Suicide Treads. New Accounts. Even More Moderations.

ps3 is at 41,6 million units sales according to http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps3_sale_e.html

Source :http://www.famitsu.com/news/201011/08035343.html

Tose's worldwide list of console sales:

Xbox 360 ____________41,000,000
Playstation 3__________42,000,000
Wii _________________74,000,000

double_heist

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]Damn, 4 pages based on fake numbers having to do with Microsoft and Sony switching places, I can only imagine what would go down if it actually happens.blue_hazy_basic

Sales don't matter. Lol we still have more AAA. Cows are Hypocrites. Lems are Hypocrites. Wii is totally a fad. Return of the PS dominance. Lol u mad. Lots of moderations. About 20 pages on the same subject claiming ownage or damage controlling. More Moderations. Suicide Treads. New Accounts. Even More Moderations.

Sorry, I don't agree with fabrications. :P

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

Sales don't matter. Lol we still have more AAA. Cows are Hypocrites. Lems are Hypocrites. Wii is totally a fad. Return of the PS dominance. Lol u mad. Lots of moderations. About 20 pages on the same subject claiming ownage or damage controlling. More Moderations. Suicide Treads. New Accounts. Even More Moderations.

Sorry, I don't agree with fabrications. :P

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] You forgot: "PC pwns both" :Pblue_hazy_basic

Sorry, I don't agree with fabrications. :P

I know, I just like trollin hermits. Stevo hasn't posted in the thread yet, so you're my target. :P