PS3 online is weak(er)?

Its just the lems trying to justify what they pay every monthKevinButlerVP

not enough ppl know what network address translation is.

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[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]Its just the lems trying to justify what they pay every monthTrapMuzik92

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Everyone knows that playstation network died right after PC gaming died. :lol:

Okay, serious now.:

PSn has decent speed (downloading of updates could be a bit faster, but eh, you can't get everything, can you? ). In terms of lag, it depends on the game. On Call of Duty 4 for PS3, I lagged a lot. But I lagged the same amount when I played on the 360. Whereas Killzone 2, I pretty much never lag. It all depends on the netcode.

[QUOTE="TrapMuzik92"][QUOTE="shadow8585"] Once a YEAR, me and 25 million other XBL members gladly shell out $50. No justification is needed. We got the COD maps way before you right? I talk to my friends while im gaming no matter what we're playing. My online network is integrated into my console and all my games. My downloads are at least twice as fast. The level of competition on XBL is a higher standard than PSN. My netflix has never stopped mid-movie to buffer. XBL is leading the way. Ill give PSN credit, theyre only about a year behind, but they will always be that 1 year behind for the foreseeable future. Ya we pay, but its not even an inconvenience as its automatically charged to my card. ill gladly take my girlfriend out one less night per year to enjoy a better service year round

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Respawn-d

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]Its just the lems trying to justify what they pay every monthRespawn-d

You need to understand that PSn was trash, and I mean dog **** from when PS3 launched until Summer 2008 (or whenever the 2.4 update released). Seriously, I couldn't even reply to a message (or even read it for that matter) or add a friend, when in game, unless it was a game in the select few category, like Resistance.

That is why you see lemmings trash on PSN. Right now? Yes, it's fanboyism, but XBL is still superior to PSN. Just not as much as lemmings make it to be.

If you doubt this, then look at cows whenever XBL features are rumored to come to PS3. Without those features, cows claim "it's okay... we don't need cross game chat. not worth $50 a year..." And when it's rumored for PS3 (wasn't it supposed to be included in the most recent update? or was it the one before that? I lost track), you see cows jumping in with "lawl we got cross game chat. it matters now!"

[QUOTE="Strider_91"]PS3 fanboys moan about the price of XBL that is all.. Xbox fanboys moan about a lot of the features in comparison... Probably something to do with that. Persistantthug

I admit to having a bias that favors the PS3....but the PRICE of XBOX LIVE isn't what I abhor....it's having to pay at all.

It makes absolutely no sense to me at all. I paid $60 for BATTLEFIELD BAD COMPANY 2 primarilly for the MULTIPLAYER....Dice put that feature in to work by default. Why do I have to pay again? Why?

XBOX LIVE is a rip off and I will never buy a subscription to play random games online....never, and it isn't price, its general principle.

PSN is just slow when downloading demos and updates. It's a pain in the rear to watch a 350MB file take 15-20mins to download on PSN and they have to wait another 5-10 mins for it to install as well. With XBL, you can download the same file in about 10mins or less and it doesn't have to do an install. The PSN updates for the PS3 are even worse. I still haven't update my PS3 with the latest version, after all the problems it cause. I'm going to wait a few more weeks and then try it. I also like XBL interface system better then PSN as well. Does anyone still use HOME? What a waste of time.

XanderZane

My only problem with PSN is what happens to the people that buy the games? Not sure how many copies MAG has sold, but it has to be more than 10k that play at peak hours. Killzone 2 has been under 2k people for months. I know those aren't unique users but more people should be playing than that!

My only problem with PSN is what happens to the people that buy the games? Not sure how many copies MAG has sold, but it has to be more than 10k that play at peak hours. Killzone 2 has been under 2k people for months. I know those aren't unique users but more people should be playing than that!

Grawse

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[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]Its just the lems trying to justify what they pay every monthlafiro93

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Also its about 40$ a year and if you cant pay 40$ a year! then you need to get off your ass and get a job.

Microsoft have been doing online gaming Far, Far longer than SONY of course it's going to be faster and more streamlined, anybody that thinks SONY can Match in 5 minutes what MS has been perfecting for years is completely deluded, which, people seem to forget that MS created the first universal web browser, XBL may be a paid subscription, but it IS faster than PSN, it IS more streamlined than PSN and it DOES have more features than PSN, that makes XBL better to anyone with a reasonable amount of common sense, stuf you get free is never as good as the stuff you pay for, Period, you get what you pay fordelta3074

There, I disagree with alot of your premise. Is XBL faster than PSN? Not with online GAMEPLAY it isn't....not when XBOX LIVE uses mostly P2P and much of PSN uses moreDedicated servers...so that "you get what you pay for" theory goes right out the window, because only SOME aspects of XBL are better than PSN...not all.

Overall, though, even though I'm a PS3 fan, I will give the edge to XBL, because I'm a reasonable person. Yes, XBL is SLIGHTLY better than PS3 because of a few extra features, but it isn't LIGHTYEARS better.

Btw...some of those extra XBL features like CROSS GAME CHAT, I find useless....mostly for teenage teeny boppers...but we'll save that for another time.

[QUOTE="delta3074"]Microsoft have been doing online gaming Far, Far longer than SONY of course it's going to be faster and more streamlined, anybody that thinks SONY can Match in 5 minutes what MS has been perfecting for years is completely deluded, which, people seem to forget that MS created the first universal web browser, XBL may be a paid subscription, but it IS faster than PSN, it IS more streamlined than PSN and it DOES have more features than PSN, that makes XBL better to anyone with a reasonable amount of common sense, stuf you get free is never as good as the stuff you pay for, Period, you get what you pay forPersistantthug

Btw...some of those extra XBL features like CROSS GAME CHAT, I find useless....mostly for teenage teeny boppers...but we'll save that for another time.

huh? only "teenage teeny boppers" like chatting? I am 19 and have some friends over 20 and we party chat all the time...it just seems like to me that you either have never tried XBL or have no friends which are gamers.

on the people saying PSN is slow on downloads what you forget to factor in is ISP's actually can drop your bandwidth allowances at peak times if they see fit.So everyone has share and decent speeds on the network.

Heck MGS 1 only took around 5min to download on my console but i did download it a bit later on at bout 9pm.Its not necessarily the PSN at fault in some cases but more the end users connection.

Its just the lems trying to justify what they pay every monthKevinButlerVP

Microsoft have been doing online gaming Far, Far longer than SONY of course it's going to be faster and more streamlined, anybody that thinks SONY can Match in 5 minutes what MS has been perfecting for years is completely deluded, which, people seem to forget that MS created the first universal web browser, XBL may be a paid subscription, but it IS faster than PSN, it IS more streamlined than PSN and it DOES have more features than PSN, that makes XBL better to anyone with a reasonable amount of common sense, stuf you get free is never as good as the stuff you pay for, Period, you get what you pay fordelta3074

PSN is just slow when downloading demos and updates. It's a pain in the rear to watch a 350MB file take 15-20mins to download on PSN and they have to wait another 5-10 mins for it to install as well. With XBL, you can download the same file in about 10mins or less and it doesn't have to do an install. The PSN updates for the PS3 are even worse. I still haven't update my PS3 with the latest version, after all the problems it cause. I'm going to wait a few more weeks and then try it. I also like XBL interface system better then PSN as well. Does anyone still use HOME? What a waste of time.

XanderZane

[QUOTE="Zoso-8"]Sounds like a bunch of opinions to me. You could just as easily say that it's a bonus PS3 users don't have mics, because let's be honest...who wants to listen to a bunch of screaming XBL kids?mitu123

Microsoft have been doing online gaming Far, Far longer than SONY of course it's going to be faster and more streamlined, anybody that thinks SONY can Match in 5 minutes what MS has been perfecting for years is completely deluded, which, people seem to forget that MS created the first universal web browser, XBL may be a paid subscription, but it IS faster than PSN, it IS more streamlined than PSN and it DOES have more features than PSN, that makes XBL better to anyone with a reasonable amount of common sense, stuf you get free is never as good as the stuff you pay for, Period, you get what you pay fordelta3074

My favorite thing to hear 360 fans say is that they can d'l a 2 gig game/demo/video in 5-10 min, but on ps3 it takes at least 24 hours.

:lol:

Pug-Nasty

Let me ask you something. Do you own a 360? Because if you did you would know this to be the truth instead of laughing and assuming that all 360 owners are delusional. Of course saying it takes 24 hours may be an exaggeration but you get the picture.I have an EXTREMELY fast connection with fiber optic verizon FIOS on a WIRED connection. Having a speedy connection like that makes downloading 2gig files over Xbox Live the rule NOT the exception. It's just amazing that with the same speedy connection when I download something on PSN it's as slow as a turtle moving in mud.

It's actually quite embarrassing for Sony because the difference is that bad. I can't tell you how many times I had to leave the PS3 while I waited for the download to finish to go do something else that by the time it finished downloading I was no longer interested in even playing on the PS3 anymore...NO JOKE. My day can get pretty busy once in a while so I don't have time for bulls***! It's the LITTLE THINGS like this that just adds up why I gladly pay the 3 bucks and change per month for LIVE and another reason why most of my gaming time is on the 360.

So please stop with this whole "it's your internet/network causing problems" because that's just insulting my intelligence.

PSN is just slow when downloading demos and updates. It's a pain in the rear to watch a 350MB file take 15-20mins to download on PSN and they have to wait another 5-10 mins for it to install as well. With XBL, you can download the same file in about 10mins or less and it doesn't have to do an install. The PSN updates for the PS3 are even worse. I still haven't update my PS3 with the latest version, after all the problems it cause. I'm going to wait a few more weeks and then try it. I also like XBL interface system better then PSN as well. Does anyone still use HOME? What a waste of time.

XanderZane

Sounds like a bunch of opinions to me. You could just as easily say that it's a bonus PS3 users don't have mics, because let's be honest...who wants to listen to a bunch of screaming XBL kids?Zoso-8

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My favorite thing to hear 360 fans say is that they can d'l a 2 gig game/demo/video in 5-10 min, but on ps3 it takes at least 24 hours.

:lol:

T-razor1

Let me ask you something. Do you own a 360? Because if you did you would know this to be the truth instead of laughing and assuming that all 360 owners are delusional. Of course saying it takes 24 hours may be an exaggeration but you get the picture.I have an EXTREMELY fast connection with fiber optic verizon FIOS on a WIRED connection. Having a speedy connection like that makes downloading 2gig files over Xbox Live the rule NOT the exception. It's just amazing that with the same speedy connection when I download something on PSN it's as slow as a turtle moving in mud.

It's actually quite embarrassing for Sony because the difference is that bad. I can't tell you how many times I had to leave the PS3 while I waited for the download to finish to go do something else that by the time it finished downloading I was no longer interested in even playing on the PS3 anymore...NO JOKE. My day can get pretty busy once in a while so I don't have time for bulls***! It's the LITTLE THINGS like this that just adds up why I gladly pay the 3 bucks and change per month for LIVE and another reason why most of my gaming time is on the 360.

So please stop with this whole "it's your internet/network causing problems" because that's just insulting my intelligence.

Used to, sold it. Your FIOS connection is not the rule, but the exception. Most people don't have internet speeds that fast, or even available to them. I'm stuck with Road Runner, which sucks, until Verizon gets their butts out here.

I get really good speeds, considering my connection (which is about 15mbs/s) and can't complain. I've also DMZ'd my ps3, so there's no firewall crap blocking it. I had some issues with it before that, but after figuring that out everything was good.

From what I understand, wiring the connection (which I do) is supposed to make ports not matter, but I find that doesn't seem to be the case for me.

The fact is, the debate about which service is better will never be settled until one can provide more than the other (plus everything the other does) for the same price. Right now you can't pay for cross-game invites/chat on the ps3, and you can't play for free on Xbox Live.

I dont understand why we need to do a DL and a Install when Downloading stuff on PSN. Why cant they just do both at the same time, like Live does? seems ass backwards to me.

Anyway, I dont always play online, but when i do, I perfer Xbox Live.

In fact, I hardly ever play online anymore.

i got verizon fios i get no lag at all. it depends on ur internet conn

SILVER_X_AMMO

It's just lems justifying to pay. Seriously, that's it. No excuses work. THAT IS FREAKING IT. PC has the best online anyway. :Phexashadow13

PC have access to Internet, same as PS3 and 360, and PS3 can utilize more resources then 360 from it.

Live is only ONE Internet service (some people forgeting that) and force you to pay fo other services ignoring the fact taht those services are free for 360 as hardware with Internet access

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]Its just the lems trying to justify what they pay every monthshadow8585

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COD maps? Who would want that load of garbage anyway... yeah really something to brag about. :roll:

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[QUOTE="Zoso-8"]Sounds like a bunch of opinions to me. You could just as easily say that it's a bonus PS3 users don't have mics, because let's be honest...who wants to listen to a bunch of screaming XBL kids?GreyFoXX4

Also, you can only talk in squads in BC2 anyways, party chat isn't even required, but comminucation in any team based game pretty much is.

I dont understand why we need to do a DL and a Install when Downloading stuff on PSN. Why cant they just do both at the same time, like Live does? seems ass backwards to me.

XboximusPrime

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]Its just the lems trying to justify what they pay every monthshadow8585

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1. Gladly shell out 50$ for what should be free? Please send me another 50$ since you're so kind.

2. You got COD maps? True. So did I get to enjoy exclusive Joker on PS3, Bioshock DLC to name a few. As for those COD maps - I still get to play them.

3. It's only integrated to those games that support online, which PS3 does as well.

4. My downloads are same on both PS3 and Xbox 360. Yours in only a opinion.

5. Level of competition is same on both consoles, again, pointless opinion from your side.

6. Netflix? Try the real thing - Blu-ray and soon 3D. Oh.. by the way, we got Netflix as well...

7. XBL is leading the way? 1 year head start and it's diminishing. In case you haven't noticed - PS3 had been outselling the competition for over a year now. Think world wide, not just one country that assumes it's the world.

Overall: Nice try to justify your pay. ;)

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[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]Its just the lems trying to justify what they pay every monthSokol4ever

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1. Gladly shell out 50$ for what should be free? Please send me another 50$ since you're so kind.

2. You got COD maps? True. So did I get to enjoy exclusive Joker on PS3, Bioshock DLC to name a few. As for those COD maps - I still get to play them.

3. It's only integrated to those games that support online, which PS3 does as well.

4. My downloads are same on both PS3 and Xbox 360. Yours in only a opinion.

5. Level of competition is same on both consoles, again, pointless opinion from your side.

6. Netflix? Try the real thing - Blu-ray and soon 3D. Oh.. by the way, we got Netflix as well...

7. XBL is leading the way? 1 year head start and it's diminishing. In case you haven't noticed - PS3 had been outselling the competition for over a year now. Think world wide, not just one country that assumes it's the world.

Overall: Nice try to justify your pay. ;)

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