PS3 Overtakes 360 In The Entire PAL Region

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#52 patrickjw333
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not really surprising, MS only has the US, thats why the 360 fanboys think NPD=World.InfiniteBlak
exactly
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#53 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Doctor-McNinja"][QUOTE="metalgear-solid"]Just proves that Americans are either very loyal to their country or very stupid. I'll with the first option for now. Seriously, it's the only region where 360 does so well.Tykain
UK. Second biggest gaming market in the world. 360 does very well indeed. ;)

UK isn't second biggest gaming market anymore, it only was for a very short time. Germany is a bigger market than the UK now.

You are wrong. I already corrected you in this thread.

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#54 Rikusaki
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:lol:

VGChartz. :|

:lol:

Using VGC will only make you look desperate.

EndorphinMaster

I actually do believe PS3 is outselling 360 in some European nations, but...

LOLZ VGChartz?

Blue-Sky

LOL, fanboys trying to prove stuff with Vgchartz93soccer

It seems this is the only comeback lemmings can come up with. VGChartz may be a little off, but that doesn't mean that the TC is completely wrong.

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#55 patriots7672
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Too many xlive/Gears of War/Halo fanatics in the USA. PS3 will get USA too it'll just take longer than the rest of the areas of the world.

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#56 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Tykain"][QUOTE="Doctor-McNinja"] UK. Second biggest gaming market in the world. 360 does very well indeed. ;)Flipyap28
UK isn't second biggest gaming market anymore, it only was for a very short time. Germany is a bigger market than the UK now.

Proof?

He is wrong. I already corrected him in this thread.

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#57 MadVybz
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[QUOTE="comeonthehoops"][QUOTE="metalgear-solid"]

Just proves that Americans are either very loyal to their country or very stupid. I'll with the first option for now. Seriously, it's the only region where 360 does so well.

Rza_rectah

It also dominates in the UK (besides the Wii) which is the 2nd biggest gaming market. Your point is stupid and racist anyway.

america is a race?

Even though it is indeed stereotyping and not racism, it's still insulting nonetheless.

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#58 oajlu
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it makes sense since no one buys american car except american themslves. :D

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#59 clone01
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Too many xlive/Gears of War/Halo fanatics in the USA. PS3 will get USA too it'll just take longer than the rest of the areas of the world.

patriots7672
is that why the UK has a huge 360 install base?
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#60 xxyetixx
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not really surprising, MS only has the US, thats why the 360 fanboys think NPD=World.InfiniteBlak

That cause I live in the US and NPD=World, cause I don't care about the rest of the world

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#61 clone01
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It seems this is the only comeback lemmings can come up with. VGChartz may be a little off, but that doesn't mean that the TC is completely wrong.

Rikusaki
its been shown in these threads time and time again that VGChartz is not reliable at all, whoever it favors. its just not a credible source.
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#62 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="InfiniteBlak"]not really surprising, MS only has the US, thats why the 360 fanboys think NPD=World.xxyetixx
That cause I live in the US and NPD=World, cause I don't care about the rest of the world

Why stop there? Why not forget the rest of the US and just bother with the state you live in?

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#63 clone01
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Even though it is indeed stereotyping and not racism, it's still insulting nonetheless.

MadVybz

and stereotyping can be construed as a form of racism. on topic: yes, NA is a huge 360 stronghold, but i really do think a lot of people downplay MS success in other regions of the world, as well.

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#64 delta3074
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[QUOTE="Doctor-McNinja"][QUOTE="metalgear-solid"]

Just proves that Americans are either very loyal to their country or very stupid. I'll with the first option for now. Seriously, it's the only region where 360 does so well.

Tykain
UK. Second biggest gaming market in the world. 360 does very well indeed. ;)

UK isn't second biggest gaming market anymore, it only was for a very short time. Germany is a bigger market than the UK now.

got a link to prove that , i have as of feb this year the UK overtook japan as the second largest gaming region on the planet http://www.joystiq.com/2009/02/10/uk-game-industry-beats-japan-takes-second-place/ now, can you prove that's changed?
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#65 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Tykain"][QUOTE="Doctor-McNinja"] UK. Second biggest gaming market in the world. 360 does very well indeed. ;)delta3074
UK isn't second biggest gaming market anymore, it only was for a very short time. Germany is a bigger market than the UK now.

got a link to prove that , i have as of feb this year the UK overtook japan as the second largest gaming region on the planet http://www.joystiq.com/2009/02/10/uk-game-industry-beats-japan-takes-second-place/ now, can you prove that's changed?

He is wrong and I already corrected him in this thread. He must have completely ignored all the evidence I provided.

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#66 dual_boot
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I'm not surprised, they tend to have better gaming preferences there.

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#67 ogvampire
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I'm not surprised, they tend to have better gaming preferences there.

dual_boot

yup, cause when i think of regions with superior gaming tastes, Africa always comes to mind :roll:

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#68 gensigns
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It seems this is the only comeback lemmings can come up with. VGChartz may be a little off, but that doesn't mean that the TC is completely wrong.

Rikusaki

A little!?!? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Last month they were off over 100k in one territory! Now how much are they off in areas where their numbers can't be checked and "fixed" when proper ones come out!

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#69 vaderhater
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And in other news today 3rd place named officially the new first!:lol:

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#70 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"]

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

I actually do believe PS3 is outselling 360 in some European nations, but...

LOLZ VGChartz?

Rikusaki

LOL, fanboys trying to prove stuff with Vgchartz93soccer

It seems this is the only comeback lemmings can come up with. VGChartz may be a little off, but that doesn't mean that the TC is completely wrong.

because cows weren't using such comebacks when vgchartz showed 360 winning am i right?

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#71 FIipMode
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[QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"]

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

I actually do believe PS3 is outselling 360 in some European nations, but...

LOLZ VGChartz?

Rikusaki

LOL, fanboys trying to prove stuff with Vgchartz93soccer

It seems this is the only comeback lemmings can come up with. VGChartz may be a little off, but that doesn't mean that the TC is completely wrong.

This, they can't cope with the fact that PS3 is now doing very well.

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#72 EndorphinMaster
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This, they can't cope with the fact that PS3 is now doing very well.

FIipMode

They're not the ones who desperately try to prove a point by tossing away their dignity and resorting to VGChartz.

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#73 FIipMode
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

This, they can't cope with the fact that PS3 is now doing very well.

EndorphinMaster

They're not the ones who desperately try to prove a point by tossing away their dignity and resorting to VGChartz.

Lems use VGC too.:|

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#74 Chaos_HL21
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Wow, N4G and VGchartz that is like fail squared...

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

It seems this is the only comeback lemmings can come up with. VGChartz may be a little off, but that doesn't mean that the TC is completely wrong.FIipMode

This, they can't cope with the fact that PS3 is now doing very well.

I remember when the fake numbers of VGchartz were showing the 360 ahead the cows where doing the same thing as the lems by saying that VGchartzshould not be used(and the lems were doing the smae thing as the cows braging about the sales.)

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#76 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

It seems this is the only comeback lemmings can come up with. VGChartz may be a little off, but that doesn't mean that the TC is completely wrong.WilliamRLBaker

because cows weren't using such comebacks when vgchartz showed 360 winning am i right?

Right, I am not one of them.
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#77 FIipMode
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Never said they didn't.

EndorphinMaster

Why don't you re-read what you wrote :lol:

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#78 ToScA-
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[QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"]

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

This, they can't cope with the fact that PS3 is now doing very well.

FIipMode

They're not the ones who desperately try to prove a point by tossing away their dignity and resorting to VGChartz.

Lems use VGC too.:|

Two wrongs do not make a right. VG Chartz are literally off the Chartz (pun intended) whoever uses them whenever they are used.
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#79 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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I wonder when MS and Sony are gonna release their official numbers. It should be soon.
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#81 Rikusaki
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VGChartz may not be the most reliable source out there, but I don't think we should be jumping the gun and laughing at the TC every single time a thread like this is posted.

Is VGChartz Reliable?

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#82 EndorphinMaster
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VGChartz may not be the most reliable source out there, but I don't think we should be jumping the gun and laughing at the TC every single time a thread like this is posted.

Is VGChartz Reliable?

Rikusaki

Sorry, but VGC fails.

"Sales estimates are split into three major regions – Americas , Japan and Others – and are arrived at via a number of proprietrary and ever-developing methods:

  • Polling end users to find out what games they are currently purchasing and playing
  • Polling retail partners to find out what games and hardware they are selling
  • Using statistical trend fitting and historical data for similar games
  • Studying resell prices to determine consumer demand and inventory levels
  • Consulting with publishers and manufacturers to find out how many units they are introducing into the channel"
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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="comeonthehoops"] It also dominates in the UK (besides the Wii) which is the 2nd biggest gaming market. Your point is stupid and racist anyway.MadVybz

america is a race?

Even though it is indeed stereotyping and not racism, it's still insulting nonetheless.

I'd argue that sterotyping is a form of racism. While "Americans" aren't actually a race saying that all americans are stupid is certainly racism in my opinion. Racism doesn't just have to be between races, but it's a good word to cover all sorts of insults and discrimination of this nature. In fact I hate the term race, and would class people in different ethnic groups rather than saying they belong to a race. Btw is that a Nightmare avatar? He was my character of choice in Soul Calibur 2 :P
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#84 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

VGChartz may not be the most reliable source out there, but I don't think we should be jumping the gun and laughing at the TC every single time a thread like this is posted.

Is VGChartz Reliable?

That link does not say anyhing that helps VGCharts' position.
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#85 ToScA-
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I wonder when MS and Sony are gonna release their official numbers. It should be soon.IronBass
'Bout a month from now I reckon?
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#86 clone01
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

VGChartz may not be the most reliable source out there, but I don't think we should be jumping the gun and laughing at the TC every single time a thread like this is posted.

Is VGChartz Reliable?

from the article: ..."This basically means that they can get things horribly wrong at times"... VGChartz is a terrible source.
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#87 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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[QUOTE="IronBass"]I wonder when MS and Sony are gonna release their official numbers. It should be soon.ToScA-
'Bout a month from now I reckon?

I think so, end January. It's gonna be interesting.
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#88 ToScA-
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VGChartz may not be the most reliable source out there, but I don't think we should be jumping the gun and laughing at the TC every single time a thread like this is posted.

Is VGChartz Reliable?

Rikusaki

Actually, having read that, that is exactly what we should be doing.

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#89 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

VGChartz may not be the most reliable source out there, but I don't think we should be jumping the gun and laughing at the TC every single time a thread like this is posted.

Is VGChartz Reliable?

ToScA-

Actually, having read that, that is exactly what we should be doing.

Really?

Even when the TC happens to be right?

Even when the PS3 is actually doing very well worldwide compared to the 360?

The numbers may be a little off, but come on...

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#90 Captain_SOAP_
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Dam the Ps3 is like the chimera 1st taking over Europe then coming for the US lmao.

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#91 AdmiralBison
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not really surprising, MS only has the US, thats why the 360 fanboys think NPD=World.InfiniteBlak

woopee doo.

The race in the entire PAL region is always close and it's hard to get figures.

PS3 only has Japan, that's why PS3 fanboys use Media Sales create.

for your information the World=Xbox360>PS3

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#92 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="MadVybz"]

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] america is a race?comeonthehoops

Even though it is indeed stereotyping and not racism, it's still insulting nonetheless.

I'd argue that sterotyping is a form of racism. While "Americans" aren't actually a race saying that all americans are stupid is certainly racism in my opinion. Racism doesn't just have to be between races, but it's a good word to cover all sorts of insults and discrimination of this nature. In fact I hate the term race, and would class people in different ethnic groups rather than saying they belong to a race. Btw is that a Nightmare avatar? He was my character of choice in Soul Calibur 2 :P

Really now? just accept the fact that you are wrong don't try to bend the truth in your favour. It's discrimination or prejudice not racism as racism like it has in its name is based on race.... Now what does america have to do with race build your vocab my friend. If you said racism was a form ofdiscrimination then youwould have a point

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#93 xxyetixx
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[QUOTE="xxyetixx"][QUOTE="InfiniteBlak"]not really surprising, MS only has the US, thats why the 360 fanboys think NPD=World.Hexagon_777

That cause I live in the US and NPD=World, cause I don't care about the rest of the world

Why stop there? Why not forget the rest of the US and just bother with the state you live in?

Or town maybe, or just friends and people I know. I've got over 50 friends on LIVE and I'm sure only 2 of them have PS3, hows that for domination.

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#94 EndorphinMaster
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[QUOTE="ToScA-"]

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

VGChartz may not be the most reliable source out there, but I don't think we should be jumping the gun and laughing at the TC every single time a thread like this is posted.

Is VGChartz Reliable?

Rikusaki

Actually, having read that, that is exactly what we should be doing.

Really?

Even when the TC happens to be right?

Even when the PS3 is actually doing very well worldwide compared to the 360?

The numbers may be a little off, but come on...

According to VGC :lol:

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#95 Arach666
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NTSC > PAL

HermitQ6600
Wrong. PAL pwns.
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#96 FIipMode
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

[QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"]Never said they didn't.

EndorphinMaster

Why don't you re-read what you wrote :lol:

Maybe you should. :lol:

I didn't deny that lemmings didn'tuse VGC. I said they don't. There's a difference. Again, go get some fresh air.

You still implied they didn't, when in fact they do. Sorry bud ;)
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#98 FIipMode
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Buddy, you're imagining things. Take a deep breath.

EndorphinMaster

They'renot the ones who desperately try to prove a point by tossing away their dignity and resorting to VGChartz.

EndorphinMaster

So no, I'm not imagining anything.:)

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#99 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

[QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"]

Buddy, you're imagining things. Take a deep breath.

[QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"]

They'renot the ones who desperately try to prove a point by tossing away their dignity and resorting to VGChartz.

So no, I'm not imagining anything.:)

hes the one thats imagining things thats whats funny LMAO
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#100 themyth01
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Also, if you add up VGChartz's OWN numbers, the total they give is wrong, and by a pretty big margin. If they cant even add their own numbers up what hope do they have? I'd also like to know where they get their data from for the countries they call 'other Europe'. :roll:Doctor-McNinja
Probably trying to get some hits on the site and we know how fanboys search the web every minute looking for anything to brag about.