Ps3 power is overrated

[QUOTE="shroofnayef"] No, they arent...Since you said U2 textures are bad, then JC2 doesnt even have have texture detail whatsoever when compared to U2's "bad textures" :roll:washd123

theyre roughly about the same, yet just cause 2 is 5x bigger.

[QUOTE="SwagSurf"]

[QUOTE="shroofnayef"] Those images are still no where near U2 graphicallyshroofnayef

Almost anything from the year 2005 to now, PC games have better graphics. So far on Consoles, UC2 is still king, but Crysis 2, Rage, KZ3, and the other games might change that.

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[QUOTE="shroofnayef"] No, they arent...Since you said U2 textures are bad, then JC2 doesnt even have have texture detail whatsoever when compared to U2's "bad textures" :roll:shroofnayef

theyre roughly about the same, yet just cause 2 is 5x bigger.

Halo 3 had great textures, but didnt look the best.

? The only titles on Pc that have better graphics than U2 are Crysis/ Warhead, and Metro 2033...Also, KZ3 looks better than U2, and C2 isnt impressive at all, espicially when footage was released about it at gamescom...The only one that could challenge U2 is Rage, and as of now, U2's graphical aspects are still substantially better than Rage'sshroofnayef

Erm... No. Try games like Arma II, Empire: Total War, Crysis 2 (at max, definately), Rage (definately will on PC), Cryostasis, Stalker series (in some aspects, such as lighting) and quite a number of multiplats.

[QUOTE="shroofnayef"][QUOTE="washd123"]

theyre roughly about the same, yet just cause 2 is 5x bigger.

Halo 3 had great textures, but didnt look the best.

[QUOTE="shroofnayef"]? The only titles on Pc that have better graphics than U2 are Crysis/ Warhead, and Metro 2033...Also, KZ3 looks better than U2, and C2 isnt impressive at all, espicially when footage was released about it at gamescom...The only one that could challenge U2 is Rage, and as of now, U2's graphical aspects are still substantially better than Rage'slundy86_4

Erm... No. Try games like Arma II, Empire: Total War, Crysis 2 (at max, definately), Rage (definately will on PC), Cryostasis, Stalker series (in some aspects, such as lighting) and quite a number of multiplats.

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[QUOTE="shroofnayef"]FNR4's only special graphical aspect is the 2 character models...other than that everything else cant even compare to the likes of U2, KZ2, GOw3, etc, etcshroofnayef

yes but the 2 character models is pretty much all that you see... thus i contend its the best looking game this gen.

no, they really dont. they look like legos compared to the polys in fight night.

I think it is a proven fact that both bluray and the Cell helped those exclusive games to look that good and to have such cinematics..

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[QUOTE="shroofnayef"]? The only titles on Pc that have better graphics than U2 are Crysis/ Warhead, and Metro 2033...Also, KZ3 looks better than U2, and C2 isnt impressive at all, espicially when footage was released about it at gamescom...The only one that could challenge U2 is Rage, and as of now, U2's graphical aspects are still substantially better than Rage'sshroofnayef

Erm... No. Try games like Arma II, Empire: Total War, Crysis 2 (at max, definately), Rage (definately will on PC), Cryostasis, Stalker series (in some aspects, such as lighting) and quite a number of multiplats.

You only said Crysis/Warhead and Metro 2033. So it's not "...Like I said...". Have you played any Stalker games or even seen Cryostasis running on a high-end rig? In terms of multiplats, RE5 easily takes it for PC over UC2, on top of games such as JC2, and some others (personally i'd even say ME2 on PC beats out UC2). Games like Arma II not only look fantastic but have so, so, so much more going on that UC2.

Also, go back and answer my other question about why your JC2 screen was in 720p.

I think it is a proven fact that both bluray and the Cell helped those exclusive games to look that good and to have such cinematics..

pitty8982

then DVD9 is holding the Pc back?

[QUOTE="pitty8982"]

I think it is a proven fact that both bluray and the Cell helped those exclusive games to look that good and to have such cinematics..

italygamer

then DVD9 is holding the Pc back?

yea blu ray did pretty much nothing for gaming graphics... outside of allowing a bunch of uncompressed CGI to be jam packed on to a single disc and forced installs.

If carmack is right though, rage might be the first title where it will actually improve in game graphics.

PS3 has can do more... We are comparing Xbox 360 games that developers have had more time with... understood how to make games longer with, DX is used on PC as well.... So when you compare.... Use last yearsXbox 360games to this years PS3 games. Thats more of a fair comparison.

AGAIN... Xbox 360 has been out 1 year more!!! Xbox 360 is easier to develop for AND uses DirectX9c MADE from Microsoft itself for the Xbox 360... .... and YET it has take till Halo: Reach to get where it is at?!!who's fault is that?????

when the Ps3 came out, everyone thought it was so much more powerful than the 360, like x2 times more powerful. the polygon crap was funny, of course Sony spread lots of lies as always.

aia89

Umm, who is this "everyone" that thought the PS3 was twice as powerful as the 360? What "polygon crap" and what "lies"?

JC2 is impressive on PC and can do some things better than PS3 exclusives...

I think what we gotta consider is what if UC2 was on PC and you crank that all the way to 1920x1080p. Then how will it compare to JC2 at 1920x1080p. I have both i gotta say JC2 looks better but that may only be because its at a higher ress with AA etc.

PS3 power isn't overrated because it still has the best console graphics, it has quality and quantity EXCLUSIVES(notice the S), and multiplats (even tho 5-10 pct of them look slightly better on the 360) blu-ray, FREE online gaming, etc.

360 lacks exclusives but has better multiplats sometimes (or 90pct of the time if ur staring at every single last detail). It has crossgame chat which isnt a must have feature but people use that as a excuse to justify playing for XBl and unless u love talking all the time you probably wont use it much. I wouldn't want to listen to people talking while im playing fighting games online and if i did ill just call them and talk.

I had my 360 for almost 2 years and i didnt see a good reason to remove all online gameplay to have u pay for it while ur already paying for ur online.

BTW this was my OPINION with some FACTS mixed together and i bet ill get reported for "offensive content". How does using facts and disagreeing with people "offensive"? And how can people get reported for trolling when using FACTS?!!?!? wtf

[QUOTE="shroofnayef"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Erm... No. Try games like Arma II, Empire: Total War, Crysis 2 (at max, definately), Rage (definately will on PC), Cryostasis, Stalker series (in some aspects, such as lighting) and quite a number of multiplats.

lundy86_4

You only said Crysis/Warhead and Metro 2033. So it's not "...Like I said...". Have you played any Stalker games or even seen Cryostasis running on a high-end rig? In terms of multiplats, RE5 easily takes it for PC over UC2, on top of games such as JC2, and some others (personally i'd even say ME2 on PC beats out UC2). Games like Arma II not only look fantastic but have so, so, so much more going on that UC2.

Also, go back and answer my other question about why your JC2 screen was in 720p.

I dont think this

Or this

Or this

Or this

They dont look anywhere near U2 graphically

OMG, this is just like the same old bla bla bla .... pwoooooooooo ... i am out.

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[QUOTE="shroofnayef"]

Even on PC and consoles JC2 is no where near U2

shroofnayef

Why was that image at 720p? Here are some better shots (not mine, so I don't take credit

Ok. Have you even seen JC2 running on a PC? I have it, i also have UC2, if you want proof let me know. Not only does PC JC2 smash UC2 graphically its in a massive open gameworld that dwarfs UC2's.

Don't rely on screenshots, you don't get to see all the fancy effects that JC2 has, also resolution is never evident in screens.

And i read that when youre close in U2 thye textures look ugly, people every game has that.johny300

Its the texture resolution. Maybe im picky being used to PC, i don't play my PS3 but my son does. That's probably why i notice these things.

I swear next gen they need to release scouters for gamers so they can confirm the power levels of consoles.

I think all 3 systems are overrated this gen. The PS3 is not some super computer, the 360 doesnt have some revolutionary online service/community, and the Wii is not some beacon of innovation. Though the more extreme supporters of each try to convince people so.

Furthermore, I dont think either of these consoles have a good enough library to really stand on their own. You need to own at least two and though I've been a multiconsole guy since the SNES/Genesis combo, I never actually felt the need to own more than one untill this gen.

uncharted 2:

Fight Night Round 4:

multiplat is teh graphics kingz

when the Ps3 came out, everyone thought it was so much more powerful than the 360, like x2 times more powerful. the polygon crap was funny, of course Sony spread lots of lies as always. the CPU is indeed the only advantage the Ps3 has over the 360, but somehow "we" are still blaming it on the LAZY devs when it comes to the inferior multiplats. when you have so many games that perform better on the Ms system, then it's not the devs' fault, but Sony's for making an arguably crazy hardware, a pain to develop games on.

So, why does the Ps3 have such beautiful looking games? the power of the cell? I don't think so. it's the power of the talented devs, which is something that Ms seems to lack. remember the ps2 how weak it was compared to the other systems? yet they were able to impress us with God of War 2, no one could ever imagine that the ps2 could push such graphics.

So when people say that the ps3 is like a Ferrari and the 360 like an average car, they're kidding themselves. over 90% of the games are multiplats, hence overall the 360 is winning in the graphics department, except for the exclusives' that they don't seem to care for much.

the techno buffalo guy said that the bluray is a big advantage for the ps3 and that dvd9 is even limiting the overall quality of the graphics on the 360.. I don't know how a support can make better graphics, but he may have a point.

thoughts?

aia89

Wow, people really like to overexaggerate UC2's graphics. I just played it last night, and I'll play it when I get home today. It's a good game, but the graphics aren't breath taking. In fact, some of the things, like the bad voice to mouth movement synching and weird movement glitches actually irritate me. And to say tha Mass Effect 2 isn't anywhere close in terms of graphics is retarded. Yes, it's a retarded thing to say. If words could be mentally challenged, then the phrase "ME2 is nowhere NEAR uncharted 2's graphics" would be a special ed class. Stop this ridiculousness.

Yes, it's graphics are overrated. In fact even the 360 graphics are overrated. The whole graphical argument this gen is overrated.

[QUOTE="johny300"]And i read that when youre close in U2 thye textures look ugly, people every game has that.Frozzik

Its the texture resolution. Maybe im picky being used to PC, i don't play my PS3 but my son does. That's probably why i notice these things.

Yes, it's graphics are overrated. In fact even the 360 graphics are overrated. The whole graphical argument this gen is overrated.

edo-tensei

Amen. This gen's graphics stopped being incredible a few years ago. It's old hat now. The worst is when games go for photorealism, because they don't have the hardware backing to achieve it, so the flaws become all that more apparent. And I'd rather have big games that let me do a lot of stuff than shallow corridor games that sacrifice scope for graphics.

I dont think this

Or this

Or this

Or this

They dont look anywhere near U2 graphically

shroofnayef

Did you pull those images from the PC section of GS? I'm assuming so. Also, could you choose worse quality shots? I'm assuming you don't have a gaming rig (so I dunno why you're even debating this without experience), so how would you know UC2 looks better than a lot of games?

Anyways, with regards to Stalker, I only said in aspects such as lighting, and not overall. However, i'll upload some screens for you:

Resident Evil 5 (my own pics of the benchmark... Motion blur was removed to improve stillscreen capture):

Mass Effect 2 (my own pics):

Stalker (my own pics):

Cryostasis (not my pics):

it obviously is, when people start comparing it to the pc and say killzone 2 is equal to crysis.

Thank you for showing that they dont look anywhere near U2 graphically

shroofnayef

I dunno what pictures you're looking at, but they look superior.

Whatever though, no matter what I show, you'll continue to say they don't look better. At least I portrayed that you were showing incorrect screens for the PC versions (along with poor quality incorrect screens), which just shows you a.) have no experience with the PC versions and b.) are unaware of what the PC versions even look like.

On top of that, you still avoid my question regarding your JC2 screen used at the beginning of this thread, as it's at 720p... The commonly used console resolution. That, along with your supposed "PC screens" show you don't really know what you're posting.

P.S. You may want to delete my pictures that you quoted, lest you wish to be modded.

Has there been a console game that has surpassed UC2's graphics?

SwagSurf

[QUOTE="shroofnayef"]

Thank you for showing that they dont look anywhere near U2 graphically

lundy86_4

I dunno what pictures you're looking at, but they look superior.

Whatever though, no matter what I show, you'll continue to say they don't look better. At least I portrayed that you were showing incorrect screens for the PC versions (along with poor quality incorrect screens), which just shows you a.) have no experience with the PC versions and b.) are unaware of what the PC versions even look like.

On top of that, you still avoid my question regarding your JC2 screen used at the beginning of this thread, as it's at 720p... The commonly used console resolution. That, along with your supposed "PC screens" show you don't really know what you're posting.

P.S. You may want to delete my pictures that you quoted, lest you wish to be modded.

just post some crysis screens, that will shut him up,lol, resident evil 5 looks amazing on the PC imodelta3074

:P

Unfortunately he admitted Crysis looks better than UC2, but thinks the other games (that I posted) don't.

I was shocked by how good it look on the PC (I played the PS3 version), and that was only using the benchmark, cos I don't have the full game.

True that.NOBODY(bar Crytek and Id) is enthusiastic on graphics and pushing hardware as Sonys first party.360 and PS3 are very equal in their power,weather cows admit it or not,you CANT have inferior system and 4 and half years have better multiplats.One 3rd party developer can be wrong and make inferior version,hell,10 of them can be,but 50+?A-A.

[QUOTE="SwagSurf"]

Has there been a console game that has surpassed UC2's graphics?

aia89

I believe PS3 still has a slightly more powerful graphics card than the 360. But only slightly.Cloud_765

I myself dont think Just Cause 2 looks better than uncharted 2. At least not when it comes to character models,textures, and animations. Plus Just cause 2 is a really good looking console game as well. PC does look better but not by much imo. The higher res and AA really help the game on the PC, plus the Nvidia CUDA water effects look great. The more impressive thing about the game is that its open world, one of the better ones this gen imo.

My own pics btw

Personally I don't think the 360 or the ps3 are all that powerful. Maybe back in late 2006 and early 2007 this thread would be neccessary, but in late 2010? Cmon now......... my PC I bought last year destroys both consoles put together. Why? Cause we're talking Oooooooooooold techhhhhhhhh... from what 2005 and 2006? It's time to move on don't ya'll think? Besides I don't know if you all haven't noticed yet, but the economy is no joke right now. Expect things to get worse and get lucky enough to even afford the wifi connection let alone the electricity to run any one of these. Enjoy.

Other then uncharted 1 and 2, the ps3 has not impressed me. I personally think uncharted would look just as good on the 360.

Everything is overrated and nothing is overrated. Pretty much clears that up.

Wow, people really like to overexaggerate UC2's graphics. I just played it last night, and I'll play it when I get home today. It's a good game, but the graphics aren't breath taking. In fact, some of the things, like the bad voice to mouth movement synching and weird movement glitches actually irritate me. And to say tha Mass Effect 2 isn't anywhere close in terms of graphics is retarded. Yes, it's a retarded thing to say. If words could be mentally challenged, then the phrase "ME2 is nowhere NEAR uncharted 2's graphics" would be a special ed class. Stop this ridiculousness.

JonSnow777