Ps3 "Wand" vs Natal

The wand is going directly against the Wii whereas Natal is something quite different. For that reason Natal. I also dont think that the wand wont be as successful for that reason.-Pred-Alien-

I couldn't care less for both of them.

I don't think these two products are really in the same league. You'd do better to compare the wand with the WiiMote+.

Natal is a different animal.

i'll wait to see which has the better support and games.

i'm not even sure how close sony are to getting the wands released or how they will release them. they was still prototypes at e3 and they showed a couple of tech demos (microsoft is in a slightly better position with the burnout demo). will they try to bundle them with a tech demo and make it eyetoy plus, or will they release them with some popular/core games like motion plus is currently doing with sports games, the upcoming red steel 2 and rumoured to be in zelda?

as for natal i'd like to see how they will implement it with games, i hope it will compliment the controller, rather than replace it like the sony wands will have to do.

either way i'm not that excited for either as i think neither will implement well into both consoles current strategies.

What I saw at E3 was pretty clear.

Natal was horrible and incredibly innacurate, the Sony Wand was pretty accurate.

However, the tech demo for the Sony Wand was pretty bleh (it did show it's accuracy, but it wasn't very interesting) while Natal's make belive commercial did grab a lot of attention.

I'm not interested in either, but I think Natal will be much more of a commercial success because of the marketing.

If its a three way battle Wii mote vs Wand vs Natal the wii mote would destroy the competition but it should be

Wii mote vs Wand and Eye toy vs Natal

[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]The wand is going directly against the Wii whereas Natal is something quite different. For that reason Natal. I also dont think that the wand wont be as successful for that reason.PoppaGamer

Also the Wand can work in every genre that the Wii Motion Plus can work in.

[QUOTE="PoppaGamer"][QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]The wand is going directly against the Wii whereas Natal is something quite different. For that reason Natal. I also dont think that the wand wont be as successful for that reason.Nintendo_Ownes7

Also the Wand can work in every genre that the Wii Motion Plus can work in.

[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]When I read this post it sounded Hypocritical because your saying the Wand can be used in all games "not just Wii Sports like casual crap" But the Wand is exactly like the Wii Remote + Motion Plus I do agree I can only see Natal working mainly in Casual games but it wouldn't be stuff like Wii Sports.

Also the Wand can work in every genre that the Wii Motion Plus can work in.

bf2nutta

I only said my opinion and from the demo of Natal I couldn't see it working in most genres. But I need to wait and see since that is a mystery I would have to see how developers use it to fully judge. But with the Wand I already know how it will work because it has the same result as the Wii Remote + Wii Motion Plus they just do it differently because the Eyetoy Camera works like the Sensor Bar for the Wii Remote.

Are you calling me a Blind Fanboy?

I only said my opinion and from the demo of Natal I couldn't see it working in most genres. But I need to wait and see since that is a mystery I would have to see how developers use it to fully judge. But with the Wand I already know how it will work because it has the same result as the Wii Remote + Wii Motion Plus they just do it differently because the Eyetoy Camera works like the Sensor Bar for the Wii Remote.

Nintendo_Ownes7

the only doubt's i have about the wand is how many buttons it has, with the wiimote it has the analog stick, a, z, b, c, d-pad, 1, 2 and + / -. when sony showed off the prototype it really didn't look like it had that many buttons and certainly with the shape of teh stick i doubt they would be able to fit that many buttons on without being incredibly uncomfortable. i know it was a prototype so designs can change, but right now i'm not convince it is going to have the versatility the wiimote has.

i'm not entirely convinced by either until i see some decent games for them, but right now natal is slightly ahead in terms of being ready. at least they showed it with a proper game (burnout) and had commercials for it.

I still don't think natal is quite ready for consumers.

I really hope both fail miserably.Motion control will be the death of gaming imo.MJPK

More interested in NATAL, it's alot different than then wii mote. But it's still too earlly to tell which will be better between the wand and NATAL, see you guys back here in about a year to claim a winner.

I don't find either of them appealing at all.

shawn7324

This.

Just give me a standard controller, not any of these motion controller crap.. Motion controls can be used for some games, but in the end they are just a useless gimmick.

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="MikeT072"]I don't like either one of them...they need to stop shoving this motion sensor crap down our throats.MJPK

If it is I will stop gaming

There is always PC Gaming and handheld gaming. ;).

[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]The wand is going directly against the Wii whereas Natal is something quite different. For that reason Natal. I also dont think that the wand wont be as successful for that reason.PoppaGamer

[QUOTE="MJPK"]I really hope both fail miserably.Motion control will be the death of gaming imo.2DFighter84

Well I actually think that the Natal is better for games, you are free to disagree. Anyway if Milo and the 3 shovelware games come with it its not too bad of a deal. Fable 3 is going to incoprate theController and the camera... And I have an Idea of how they can make a halo game or gears game work well with it. The trick would be yo hold only one half of the controller (the right half wit the face buttons) and hold your left hand as if you were holding a rifle. You move the character using the right stick and aim with the invisible gun you ar holding. You fire using RT and reload with a reload motion. The face butons would then be free for just about anything scince X is no longer needed for Reload, Y is no longer the action button, and B isnt melee RB would be free as well because you could throw a gernade using the motion. A would be to jump/ roll / take cover and Y would be the standard switch weapons. Iron sight would be activated when you hold the "gun close to you. Turning would be done by moving the gun or 90 degree quick turns with X and B, andRB would be to sprint. That way you won't look like a moron running in place and rolling into your coffee talbe. Its just a thought...

This Topic should be RE--written as

casual gamers and Wii owners please select one from ""wand"" and""" Natal"""

Given microsofts reputation with voice recognition (Vista's speech recognition anyone?) and how crap it is, and ofc the fact that i currently only own a ps3 i'm going with sony's ball-on-a-stick thing.

Here's a link to Vistas speech recognition:

Click me

I know that the vid was back in 2006 but it's still as crappy today.

Well, I think its too early to say which one will be better, but the wand has caught my attention simply because it's super accurate and holding something in your hand while your holding something in a game is better than grabbing thin air IMOmgkennedy5

maybe it's time that sony and microsoft realize
that motion sensor things can go to hell.


That's what the wii is for. Geeze.

Im happy with My dualshock controller. The wand and Natal do not interest me, Perhaps I'd check the wand thing some time but im rather indifferent about itAgentA-Mi6

What he said

You need a car to drive, you need a skateboard to skate, you need chair in order to sit. I can go on. What Im saying is that in gaming you need a controller in order to game otherwise it's just gonna be a dumbed down or broken version of gaming, granted I don't care for the Wiimote or Wand but I prefer them over Natal since you have to hold a controller in order to play motion gaming. It's also far easier to understand how the Sony wand will be implemented in current games (thanks to the wiimote) compared to Natal. I mean how the heck are they going to make it work in traditional games without making it feel tacked on?

PS Wand: if it has an analog stick then it will definitely be better. It could potentially be like the Wii with amazing graphics.

Natal: very impressive and I think families will amazed with no controller. I'm looking forward to it being implemented into controller based games like Mass Effect 3, Halo Reach, and Fable 3. More so than games built from the ground up only using Natal.

I still don't think natal is quite ready for consumers.

dark-warmachine

PS3 fanboys still using that video for one casual game. How many casual games is the PS3 motion controller going to have.

[QUOTE="dark-warmachine"]

I still don't think natal is quite ready for consumers.

PS3_3DO

PS3 fanboys still using that video for one casual game. How many casual games is the PS3 motion controller going to have.

Trust me, that's how everyone is gonna end up playing Natal ;)

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

[QUOTE="dark-warmachine"]

I still don't think natal is quite ready for consumers.

Swift_Boss_A

PS3 fanboys still using that video for one casual game. How many casual games is the PS3 motion controller going to have.

Trust me, that's how everyone is gonna end up playing Natal ;)

Sure. I bet you say Milo is never going to work. You going to be surprised next year. ;)

i dont think either can stand up to the wii. for a good example of how motion controls and buttons work well together while remaining intuitive, look at dbz budiki 2 for wii. you press certain buttons then shake the nunchuck or move the wiimote in certain patterns to do attacks but you still have the joystick to move your charactor so you can do more at once than any other controler out there, the problem with those two is they arnt integrated into every game, the games arnt developed around them so they will go the way of the light gun...

[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

PS3 fanboys still using that video for one casual game. How many casual games is the PS3 motion controller going to have.

PS3_3DO

Trust me, that's how everyone is gonna end up playing Natal ;)

Sure. I bet you say Milo is never going to work. You going to be surprised next year. ;)

Looking forward to it ;)

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

Trust me, that's how everyone is gonna end up playing Natal ;)

Swift_Boss_A

Sure. I bet you say Milo is never going to work. You going to be surprised next year. ;)

Looking forward to it ;)

And I look forward to seeing all the casual games for the PS3 wand like painting and sword playing! :D

[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

Looking forward to it ;)

PS3_3DO

And I look forward to see all the casual games for the PS3 wand like painting and sword playing! :D

Likewise, Im sure it's gonna be interesting. Sony Wand is gonna be shown at TGS next month, so hopefully we get some actual game demonstration ;)

Sorry I got something in my eye *pokes eye* damn it get out.... oh it's out now :D

okay i watched a video about milo, while i think that is scripted bs, i think facial and voice recongniton would be awsome in games, who cares about motion controls and scaning crap, thats for casual gamers, what about playing the next huge rpg and when you go up to the npc you talk to it, tell it what you want and it responds, including negetive responses for things it doesnt like, ie sexual inuendos and vulgar language, i mean come one, what if your party could see the fear in your face and became scared as well, think about horror games that could feed on your jumping from something scaring you and continue to scare you till you gota change your depends. there is lots that those two techs could do for hard core gaming, but the motion controls i dont like so much, i dont want to have to worry if it will detect me swinging my long and shiny blade at the dragons cockles...

Natal. I mean, I have a wand but I don't see people getting all excited about that.