PS3 Sales Fall Sharply After Slim's Release Spike

Did people actually thing those sales would continue? It's just basic logic isn't it?8Tango

only fanboy logic exists here

one good week after a price drop (which EVERYBODY predicted would happen), and it's the playstation brand is back and on it's way to being #1 again

i saw the exact same thing with the PSP when a big game drops. one good week and it's "DS' streak is over, the PSP will dominate from now on"

but then reality strikes and people eventually realised that the PSP will forever be inferior to the DS saleswise, and it's back to "sales don't matter"

same thing will happen with the PS3

Lower than I thought. We'll have to wait until next week to be sure though.

and when the Wii price drop hits with Wii Fit Plus and Final Fantasy Crystal Bearers this fall in japan?? moar sales

darth-pyschosis

I'm sure they'll all pass up on PS3s for FFXIII for this.

Still good numbers.

No offense towards Japan, but I'm more interested in NPD numbers. September will be an interesting month for sales, to say the very least.

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

well it is just september. Expect another huge spike in october or november

ogvampire

another price drop?

When everyone goes shopping for the holidays?

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[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

well it is just september. Expect another huge spike in october or november

VendettaRed07

another price drop?

When everyone goes shopping for the holidays?

wont every console get a spike then?

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[QUOTE="jakehouston88"]

Now with Uncharted 2!

:D

ogvampire

Uncharted 2 is little too american style to sell good in Japan....

also, UC is not a system seller... that bundle will not impress the masses

First off, the number of games that are truly proven "system sellers" each gen I could count on one hand. I'd probably even have a couple free fingers in case more come out.

Second, there is a WORLD of difference between a game being a system seller, and the capability of a game to move system if it is bundled in with the console. Two totally different things.

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[QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"]

Uncharted 2 is little too american style to sell good in Japan....

ZIMdoom

also, UC is not a system seller... that bundle will not impress the masses

First off, the number of games that are truly proven "system sellers" each gen I could count on one hand. I'd probably even have a couple free fingers in case more come out.

yes, which is why claiming UC2 as a system seller is funny

Second, there is a WORLD of difference between a game being a system seller, and the capability of a game to move system if it is bundled in with the console. Two totally different things.

the first UC sold 70,000 copies in Japan... do you honestly think UC2 will sell systems (people willing to spend an extra $100 for the bundle)... seriously? :|

[QUOTE="8Tango"]Did people actually thing those sales would continue? It's just basic logic isn't it?JB730

only fanboy logic exists here

one good week after a price drop (which EVERYBODY predicted would happen), and it's the playstation brand is back and on it's way to being #1 again

i saw the exact same thing with the PSP when a big game drops. one good week and it's "DS' streak is over, the PSP will dominate from now on"

but then reality strikes and people eventually realised that the PSP will forever be inferior to the DS saleswise, and it's back to "sales don't matter"

same thing will happen with the PS3

Show me one single post from one single cow where they say that the PS3 will sell 250,000 consoles every single week for ever. Just one. If you want to talk about fanboy logic, how about all the people talking about the sales stabilizing to a normal level as if the PS3 is "going back to normal". What evidence is there to back up this claim? What evidence is there proving that the price drop won't cause an improvement in PS3 sales over the long term? ZERO. There is zero evidence that the price drop has failed and zero evidence to support the claim that PS3 sales are going back to what they were before the drop. Meanwhile, anti-Sony fanboys are creating straw man arguements to bash cows AND the PS3. Nobody ever said that the PS3 would maintain the 250,000 a week sales, but that is the claim being made.

I certainly do see a number of fanboys making fanboy claims here...but the number coming from cows seems to be MUCH lower here than those made by other fanboys.

[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

First off, the number of games that are truly proven "system sellers" each gen I could count on one hand. I'd probably even have a couple free fingers in case more come out.

yes, which is why claiming UC2 as a system seller is funny

Second, there is a WORLD of difference between a game being a system seller, and the capability of a game to move system if it is bundled in with the console. Two totally different things.

the first UC sold 70,000 copies in Japan... do you honestly think UC2 will sell systems (people willing to spend an extra $100 for the bundle)... seriously? :|

ogvampire

Is this bundle ONLY for Japan,or will it be sold in other regions as well? Is that extra $100 just for the game orfor the extra HDD space? What will the cost of the 250gig PS3 cost without UC2? If it is the same price, wouldn't a free game being bundled in be more of an incentive than having no game, regardless of region?

So you see, if your comments, or the comments previously, made any logical sense, there wouldn't be so many unanswered questions.

sony need to release different bundles every month to continue this strong momentum

PS3 slim has sold 850,000 in two weeks worldwide lol JEESH im glad ppl are finally finding out how great of a console the ps3 is so im happy

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

First off, the number of games that are truly proven "system sellers" each gen I could count on one hand. I'd probably even have a couple free fingers in case more come out.

yes, which is why claiming UC2 as a system seller is funny

Second, there is a WORLD of difference between a game being a system seller, and the capability of a game to move system if it is bundled in with the console. Two totally different things.

the first UC sold 70,000 copies in Japan... do you honestly think UC2 will sell systems (people willing to spend an extra $100 for the bundle)... seriously? :|

ZIMdoom

Is this bundle ONLY for Japan,or will it be sold in other regions as well?

Not confirmed for NA, just europe and Japan i believe

Is that extra $100 just for the game orfor the extra HDD space? What will the cost of the 250gig PS3 cost without UC2? If it is the same price, wouldn't a free game being bundled in be more of an incentive than having no game, regardless of region?

people didnt really flock to a $399 ps3 (even the bundled ones)... so what makes you think a UC2 one will sell? extra HDD space is great for gamers... the masses dont care about that stuff (points to Wii and the 360 arcade for example)

So you see, if your comments, or the comments previously, made any logical sense, there wouldn't be so many unanswered questions.

i see nothing illogical about my comments... i posted facts and reasoning, you posted speculations

Did people actually thing those sales would continue? It's just basic logic isn't it?8Tango

You people do realize stores run out of product, then reorder....then they sale the product when they get it again. Tracking this by week is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. darthogre

I agree. This is like people saying a movie must suck because the second weekend sales aren't as high as opening weekend.

[QUOTE="darthogre"]You people do realize stores run out of product, then reorder....then they sale the product when they get it again. Tracking this by week is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. ZIMdoom

I agree. This is like people saying a movie must suck because the second weekend sales aren't as high as opening weekend.

nobody is saying anything about quality

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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

ogvampire

Is this bundle ONLY for Japan,or will it be sold in other regions as well?

Not confirmed for NA, just europe and Japan i believe

Is that extra $100 just for the game orfor the extra HDD space? What will the cost of the 250gig PS3 cost without UC2? If it is the same price, wouldn't a free game being bundled in be more of an incentive than having no game, regardless of region?

people didnt really flock to a $399 ps3 (even the bundled ones)... so what makes you think a UC2 one will sell? extra HDD space is great for gamers... the masses dont care about that stuff (points to Wii and the 360 arcade for example)

So you see, if your comments, or the comments previously, made any logical sense, there wouldn't be so many unanswered questions.

i see nothing illogical about my comments... i posted facts and reasoning, you posted speculations

No, you are the one posting speculation when you claim the PS3 sales spike is over, when you claim the UC2 bundle won't sell, when you pretend like one week in Japan reflects world wide sales over the long-term, when you act like the upcoming holiday season won't matter, when you speak for what the masses want, and when you use straw man arguements against myself and others.

At no point did I speculate anything about the success, or possible lack, of this bundle in Japan. The issue here is PS3 sales and the claim that (a) a bundle makes no difference in sales anywhere, and (b) that Japan's weekly sales is an accurate reflection of long-term world wide demand for PS3. Both of those are faulty claims with ZERO evidence backing them. That is just a fact.

[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

[QUOTE="darthogre"]You people do realize stores run out of product, then reorder....then they sale the product when they get it again. Tracking this by week is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. ogvampire

I agree. This is like people saying a movie must suck because the second weekend sales aren't as high as opening weekend.

nobody is saying anything about quality

No, they are saying that nobody wants or cares that much about PS3 and that this is reflected by PS3 sales "going back to normal" this quickly after the price drop. However, they have zero evidence to make that claim because we don't know where the sales will stabilize and we don't have monthly sales numbers from any other region yet. We don't know what the demand will be over the holiday shopping rush which will start only a month after the NA sales numbers are released. We also don't know what the long term sales (or movie attendace) will be.

Instead, a bunch of Sony hating fanboys have taken this article completely out of context, used straw man arguements to bash the cows, and are making assumptions with ZERO basis in fact.

Then they, like you, want to turn around and argue semantics instead of the flawed logic that is the heart of this topic.

[QUOTE="8Tango"]Did people actually thing those sales would continue? It's just basic logic isn't it?surrealnumber5

You sound pretty sure of that. Surely you MUST have some sort of evidence to back up that comment? Perhaps a link? I'll wait but I won't hold my breath.

The it out sold the Wii by 40,000, there's your story! but this is Sony so we need a negative spin!

[QUOTE="darthogre"]You people do realize stores run out of product, then reorder....then they sale the product when they get it again. Tracking this by week is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. ZIMdoom

I agree. This is like people saying a movie must suck because the second weekend sales aren't as high as opening weekend.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

Is this bundle ONLY for Japan,or will it be sold in other regions as well?

Not confirmed for NA, just europe and Japan i believe

Is that extra $100 just for the game orfor the extra HDD space? What will the cost of the 250gig PS3 cost without UC2? If it is the same price, wouldn't a free game being bundled in be more of an incentive than having no game, regardless of region?

people didnt really flock to a $399 ps3 (even the bundled ones)... so what makes you think a UC2 one will sell? extra HDD space is great for gamers... the masses dont care about that stuff (points to Wii and the 360 arcade for example)

So you see, if your comments, or the comments previously, made any logical sense, there wouldn't be so many unanswered questions.

i see nothing illogical about my comments... i posted facts and reasoning, you posted speculations

ZIMdoom

No, you are the one posting speculation when you claim the PS3 sales spike is over, when you claim the UC2 bundle won't sell, when you pretend like one week in Japan reflects world wide sales over the long-term, when you act like the upcoming holiday season won't matter, when you speak for what the masses want, and when you use straw man arguements against myself and others.

the 'spike' IS over. if it wasnt, the ps3 sales would be higher than last week. thats what a 'spike' is :roll:

im not saying the UC2 bundle will not sell, im saying it will not have great sales. i based that statement on facts (UC1 sold 70k in japan, ps3 at $399 was not a hot seller)

you draw the same speculations saying that people want more HDD and UC2... yet the Wii (which outsold both the 360 and ps3) has a very small HDD and the original UC was not an instant hit in terms of sales. those are facts

At no point did I speculate anything about the success, or possible lack, of this bundle in Japan. The issue here is PS3 sales and the claim that (a) a bundle makes no difference in sales anywhere

you must be really confused... i didnt make that claim.

, and (b) that Japan's weekly sales is an accurate reflection of long-term world wide demand for PS3

again, confused... i never claimed that either. you seem to be reading something in my writting that isnt there...

. Both of those are faulty claims with ZERO evidence backing them. That is just a fact.

...claims that i never made

everything i said is related to Japan... which is where these sales numbers are from

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[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

I agree. This is like people saying a movie must suck because the second weekend sales aren't as high as opening weekend.

ZIMdoom

nobody is saying anything about quality

No, they are saying that nobody wants or cares that much about PS3 and that this is reflected by PS3 sales "going back to normal" this quickly after the price drop. However, they have zero evidence to make that claim because we don't know where the sales will stabilize and we don't have monthly sales numbers from any other region yet. We don't know what the demand will be over the holiday shopping rush which will start only a month after the NA sales numbers are released. We also don't know what the long term sales (or movie attendace) will be.

Instead, a bunch of Sony hating fanboys have taken this article completely out of context, used straw man arguements to bash the cows, and are making assumptions with ZERO basis in fact.

Then they, like you, want to turn around and argue semantics instead of the flawed logic that is the heart of this topic.

what flawed logic is there? ps3 sales are coming down after a sales spike... that what usually happens after the initial demand of a price drop

not sure what else you are trying to argue... but its getting kinda sad

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"][QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

Yep dissapointing numbers right there. Looks like cows better enjoy this while they still can unfortunately,

PS3's bi-annual sales spike ending in 3...2...1.

360 already beat the original XBOX numbers.

As far as MS is concerned- Mission acomplished. :D And I congratulate them on their success.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] yes,yes the did. i am still waiting another5 weeks before any wild assumptionsZIMdoom

You sound pretty sure of that. Surely you MUST have some sort of evidence to back up that comment? Perhaps a link? I'll wait but I won't hold my breath.

They will achieve it with ease, PS3 slim sold half a million in a week so if that is any indication, and add in the fact that PS3 has a lot of quality games releasing I believe Sony will achieve it's goal of selling 13 million by the end of this fiscal year, if not more. The Price cut was the only thing standing between PS3 and HUGE sales, the PS3 train is not going to slow down any time soon.

Swift_Boss_A

probably PS3 will settle at 150~180k per week WW from now on unlease there is some big hits.

ps3 is next dreamcast dont care if u like it or not . Cuz 3rd party developers are stepping away from ps3 which is alarming for sony . E.G NAMCO(TEKKEN 6) KONAMI ( MG 5 ) SQAURE ENIX (FINAL FANTASY ).

ps3 is next dreamcast dont care if u like it or not . Cuz 3rd party developers are stepping away from ps3 which is alarming for sony . E.G NAMCO(TEKKEN 6) KONAMI ( MG 5 ) SQAURE ENIX (FINAL FANTASY ).

fahadsul3man

[QUOTE="fahadsul3man"]

ps3 is next dreamcast dont care if u like it or not . Cuz 3rd party developers are stepping away from ps3 which is alarming for sony . E.G NAMCO(TEKKEN 6) KONAMI ( MG 5 ) SQAURE ENIX (FINAL FANTASY ).

Giancar

what flawed logic is there? ps3 sales are coming down after a sales spike... that what usually happens after the initial demand of a price drop

not sure what else you are trying to argue... but its getting kinda sad

ogvampire

At no point have I ever questioned the drop in sales after the spike. My issue is quite simple...people are saying that this is proof the PS3's price drop has failed and that the ps3 sales are going 'back to normal'. This is flawed logic for a number of reasons I have already pointed out countless times.

I have essentiallymade two arguements over and over which you seem to have either ignored, or completely failed to understand.

1) I pointed out why the initial article, as well as the thread title and initial post were misleading.

2) Your comment (or whomever's) that the UC2 bundle won't help sell consoles because the first UC wasn't a "system seller".

I have made perfectly logical cases over and over. Your response seems to keep going off on tangents, changing the subject or arguing symatics. I would encourage you to go back and reread my original two posts.

[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="fahadsul3man"]

ps3 is next dreamcast dont care if u like it or not . Cuz 3rd party developers are stepping away from ps3 which is alarming for sony . E.G NAMCO(TEKKEN 6) KONAMI ( MG 5 ) SQAURE ENIX (FINAL FANTASY ).

surrealnumber5

ps3 is next dreamcast dont care if u like it or not . Cuz 3rd party developers are stepping away from ps3 which is alarming for sony . E.G NAMCO(TEKKEN 6) KONAMI ( MG 5 ) SQAURE ENIX (FINAL FANTASY ).

fahadsul3man

If the PS3 was the next Dreamcast it would've died by now. :|

bad week for the xbox should be the name of this. and the psp is outselling the wii ? the 360 and the ps2 are practically neck and neck.Androvinus

lol yea lemmings need to stop worrying about PS3 being the second best selling console they need to worry about their X360 being the second worst selling console :D

it's going to be close but i'm putting my money on PS2 beating the X360 :D

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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

what flawed logic is there? ps3 sales are coming down after a sales spike... that what usually happens after the initial demand of a price drop

not sure what else you are trying to argue... but its getting kinda sad

simslifer

At no point have I ever questioned the drop in sales after the spike. My issue is quite simple...people are saying that this is proof the PS3's price drop has failed and that the ps3 sales are going 'back to normal'. This is flawed logic for a number of reasons I have already pointed out countless times.

I have essentiallymade two arguements over and over which you seem to have either ignored, or completely failed to understand.

1) I pointed out why the initial article, as well as the thread title and initial post were misleading.

2) Your comment (or whomever's) that the UC2 bundle won't help sell consoles because the first UC wasn't a "system seller".

I have made perfectly logical cases over and over. Your response seems to keep going off on tangents, changing the subject or arguing symatics. I would encourage you to go back and reread my original two posts.

don't bother ypur talking to blind fanboys who don't understand logic or common sense.

lol! just cause both of you share the same defunct logic and common sense doesnt make it right

but hey, im sure in your world, two wrongs make a right... ;)

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[QUOTE="8Tango"]Did people actually thing those sales would continue? It's just basic logic isn't it?ZIMdoom

only fanboy logic exists here

one good week after a price drop (which EVERYBODY predicted would happen), and it's the playstation brand is back and on it's way to being #1 again

i saw the exact same thing with the PSP when a big game drops. one good week and it's "DS' streak is over, the PSP will dominate from now on"

but then reality strikes and people eventually realised that the PSP will forever be inferior to the DS saleswise, and it's back to "sales don't matter"

same thing will happen with the PS3

Show me one single post from one single cow where they say that the PS3 will sell 250,000 consoles every single week for ever. Just one. If you want to talk about fanboy logic, how about all the people talking about the sales stabilizing to a normal level as if the PS3 is "going back to normal". What evidence is there to back up this claim? What evidence is there proving that the price drop won't cause an improvement in PS3 sales over the long term? ZERO. There is zero evidence that the price drop has failed and zero evidence to support the claim that PS3 sales are going back to what they were before the drop. Meanwhile, anti-Sony fanboys are creating straw man arguements to bash cows AND the PS3. Nobody ever said that the PS3 would maintain the 250,000 a week sales, but that is the claim being made.

I certainly do see a number of fanboys making fanboy claims here...but the number coming from cows seems to be MUCH lower here than those made by other fanboys.

did i say cows were claiming the PS3 would sell 250000 every week? no i didn't, so no i will not show you such a post. in fact nobody claimed what you are accusing other of claiming.....so relax.

did i say that this sales drop wouldn't improve PS3 sales in the long term? of course not, nobody claimed that because it's obvious that the PS3 needed a sales drop. so again.....relax.

you are creating straw-man arguments yourself, and looking like a hypocrite in the process. try READING what you are responding to. it helps.

i said that there are some cows out there claiming that the PS3 is on it's way to the #1 position in the market - which is downrigt silly considering the lead the wii has on it. there are also many cows who claim the PS3 will overtake the 360 when they saw the 1st week sales results.....as if the 360 won't get a price cut of its own in the near future, and the PS3 will still manage to outpace it significantly.

i was merely trying to point out that ALL consoles get huge boosts in sales as a result of price cuts...and the last time we saw this happen to a last-place sony gaming device (the PSP), we saw the same sense of overexcitement dulled a couple of months later.

the competition is on the verge of having price drops of their own for this holiday season. do we really believe that the PS3 will continue to have enough momentum to propell itself from that last place position in the console market?