PS3 stigma is fading little by little.

I haven't seen any official January NPD charts, so as of now, your claim of PS3 outselling X360 is a bit dubious.

Frankly, Sony better hope PS3 outsold X360 in January.

I haven't seen any official January NPD charts, so as of now, your claim of PS3 outselling X360 is a bit dubious.

Frankly, Sony better hope PS3 outsold X360 in January.

CelineDion

Motorstorm needing more than a DVD seems a bit strange when you consider games like PGR 3 and Oblivion are on a single DVD. I thought one of the major complaints about the game was lack of content. What are they using all this space on? Sir_Graham

[QUOTE="zeonne"]he actually makes a few very valid points...........R-Dot-Yung

On another note, the PS3 isn't outselling the 360. :|Ninja-Vox

[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]On another note, the PS3 isn't outselling the 360. :|nickdastick

This thing about the size of games is a funny thing. PS2 Soul Calibur 2 uses more than 4GB, while Xbox Soul Calibur 2 uses a little more than 1GB. Which one is better? Xbox Soul Calibur 2 of course, with better textures and 720p. Anyone got my point? How do i know about the size of them? Very simple, i made images of both. You know, a lot of PS2 games use a thing called dummy files. You can remove the dummy files without messing with the content of the game. What's the purpose of the dummy files? I don't know, but perhaps PS3 games are using the same dummy files. Anyone that know a little about the torrent scene knows what i'm talking about. DanBal76

[QUOTE="zeonne"]he actually makes a few very valid points...........SyluxElite

Just for fun, can't resist...

Remember the Blu-Ray format is not needed? MGS, Motorstorm, Heavenly Sword all ready uses 2x the capacity of DVD9.

shungokustasu

Which doesn't help the argument that the extra space is needed, as many people have stated it's most likely buffers or duplicated data.  Blu-Ray still is slower which is a major downfall compared to DVD.

Remember the Blu-Ray will flop = PS3 flop?  Now Blu-Ray is selling 3:1 to the HD-DVD

shungokustasu

Movie formats don't really matter much when it comes to video games, but how is it outselling HD-DVD in player or movie sales?  And what time frame is that over, is that the life of the product or one month of sales?  Do you know what the stats you regurgitating actually are?  And can you really compare the sales of a time frame when different products were released for each format? 

Remember PS3 is expensive? PS3 is out selling the Xbox360 which is 200 dollars less.
shungokustasu

Again over which time frame and what source?  And does that time frame really matter in the long run, how much did it outsell it?  Which sold more games and accessories in that time frame?

Remember PS3 don't have any games? PS3 Euro Launch will have 30 games at launch plus downloadable content.

shungokustasu

How long has the PS3 been out in other regions?  How many of those games are available, and possibly better on other consoles?  I don't think most people are arguing that PS3 doesn't have any games, but it has less in relation to 360 for example, and very few notable exclusives.

Remember PS3 is less powerful than Xbox360? Oblivion is better looking on the PS3, and Motorstorm looks on par with GeoW

Remember PS3 can do 4d? well, no it can't... Remember when Xbox360 is getting 1 billion consumers? :lol:

The truth is finally surfacing about the PS3. The bad stigma it was recieving at launch is now fading away. This war is just getting started.
shungokustasu

Those last statements are just silly... 

Remember the Blu-Ray format is not needed? MGS, Motorstorm, Heavenly Sword all ready uses 2x the capacity of DVD9.

Remember the Blu-Ray will flop = PS3 flop?  Now Blu-Ray is selling 3:1 to the HD-DVD

Remember PS3 is expensive? PS3 is out selling the Xbox360 which is 200 dollars less.

Remember PS3 don't have any games? PS3 Euro Launch will have 30 games at launch plus downloadable content.

Remember PS3 is less powerful than Xbox360? Oblivion is better looking on the PS3, and Motorstorm looks on par with GeoW

Remember PS3 can do 4d? well, no it can't... Remember when Xbox360 is getting 1 billion consumers? :lol:

The truth is finally surfacing about the PS3. The bad stigma it was recieving at launch is now fading away. This war is just getting started.
shungokustasu

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]Remember the Blu-Ray format is not needed? MGS, Motorstorm, Heavenly Sword all ready uses 2x the capacity of DVD9.ginazswordsman

Remember the Blu-Ray will flop = PS3 flop? Now Blu-Ray is selling 3:1 to the HD-DVDshungokustasu

Remember PS3 is expensive? PS3 is out selling the Xbox360 which is 200 dollars less.shungokustasu

Remember PS3 don't have any games? PS3 Euro Launch will have 30 games at launch plus downloadable content.shungokustasu

Remember PS3 is less powerful than Xbox360? Oblivion is better looking on the PS3, and Motorstorm looks on par with GeoWshungokustasu

Remember PS3 can do 4d? well, no it can't... Remember when Xbox360 is getting 1 billion consumers? :lol:shungokustasu

The truth is finally surfacing about the PS3. The bad stigma it was recieving at launch is now fading away. This war is just getting started.
shungokustasu

On another note, the PS3 isn't outselling the 360. :|Ninja-Vox

Following note. PS3 isn't outselling Wii anywhere!

Just for fun, can't resist...

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]Remember the Blu-Ray format is not needed? MGS, Motorstorm, Heavenly Sword all ready uses 2x the capacity of DVD9.

fattychubs

Which doesn't help the argument that the extra space is needed, as many people have stated it's most likely buffers or duplicated data.  Blu-Ray still is slower which is a major downfall compared to DVD.

Remember the Blu-Ray will flop = PS3 flop?  Now Blu-Ray is selling 3:1 to the HD-DVD

shungokustasu

Movie formats don't really matter much when it comes to video games, but how is it outselling HD-DVD in player or movie sales?  And what time frame is that over, is that the life of the product or one month of sales?  Do you know what the stats you regurgitating actually are?  And can you really compare the sales of a time frame when different products were released for each format? 

Remember PS3 is expensive? PS3 is out selling the Xbox360 which is 200 dollars less.
shungokustasu

Again over which time frame and what source?  And does that time frame really matter in the long run, how much did it outsell it?  Which sold more games and accessories in that time frame?

Remember PS3 don't have any games? PS3 Euro Launch will have 30 games at launch plus downloadable content.

shungokustasu

How long has the PS3 been out in other regions?  How many of those games are available, and possibly better on other consoles?  I don't think most people are arguing that PS3 doesn't have any games, but it has less in relation to 360 for example, and very few notable exclusives.

Remember PS3 is less powerful than Xbox360? Oblivion is better looking on the PS3, and Motorstorm looks on par with GeoW

Remember PS3 can do 4d? well, no it can't... Remember when Xbox360 is getting 1 billion consumers? :lol:

The truth is finally surfacing about the PS3. The bad stigma it was recieving at launch is now fading away. This war is just getting started.
shungokustasu

Those last statements are just silly... 

Are you serious???? The PS3's drive is slower, yeah but that where it ends, Blu-Ray is the future

Its definetly Movie Wise, Because player Wise its like 8 to 1

Watch Japan sales figures and NA sales figures. Keep in mind NA is about 60% of 360 market and its getting owned there to

Your last statement was an opinion

 

Are you serious???? The PS3's drive is slower, yeah but that where it ends, Blu-Ray is the future

Blinblingthing

Being slower is a big issue, and they are more expensive to produce (but that's mostly a publisher issue), the only advantage over DVD is the added space which really doesn't add anything to this generation of gaming.

 

Its definetly Movie Wise, Because player Wise its like 8 to 1

Blinblingthing

For what time frame, from what source? 

 

Watch Japan sales figures and NA sales figures. Keep in mind NA is about 60% of 360 market and its getting owned there to

Blinblingthing

For what time frame, from what source and by how much?  Like I said what were game and accessories sales during that period?  What do the total install base look like? 

 

Your last statement was an opinion

Blinblingthing

Everything I wrote was my opinion.  Not sure what you mean by that.

[QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"][QUOTE="zeonne"]he actually makes a few very valid points...........shungokustasu

I thought this was going to be about Ninja GaidenMagical_Guy

Remember the Blu-Ray format is not needed? MGS, Motorstorm, Heavenly Sword all ready uses 2x the capacity of DVD9.

Remember the Blu-Ray will flop = PS3 flop?  Now Blu-Ray is selling 3:1 to the HD-DVD

Remember PS3 is expensive? PS3 is out selling the Xbox360 which is 200 dollars less.

Remember PS3 don't have any games? PS3 Euro Launch will have 30 games at launch plus downloadable content.

Remember PS3 is less powerful than Xbox360? Oblivion is better looking on the PS3, and Motorstorm looks on par with GeoW

Remember PS3 can do 4d? well, no it can't... Remember when Xbox360 is getting 1 billion consumers? :lol:

The truth is finally surfacing about the PS3. The bad stigma it was recieving at launch is now fading away. This war is just getting started.
shungokustasu

Those games you are listing use twice the space of a DVD9 because none of the data on it is compressed. That equates to slower loading times actually and there is no real benefit from doing so (unless you install files onto the hard drive, kind of defeats the purpose of a console though). So what's the point of not compressing your data, nothing really. Just another excuse for Sony to try and sell it's "Blu-Ray" format to us, making us think that HD games really need that space, when in reality we don't. Most of those PS3 games can fit on a DVD9 when if using the right compression method.

Depending on your sources, some will say HD DVD is winning, but you know what? Neither format is really winning as DVD shows no sign of going away, and by the time DVD gets phased out, we will most likely have online distribution of HD content, so Blu-Ray and HD-DVD might not be here to stay.

Yes, the PS3 is expensive, and no it's not selling faster then the 360. It sold more at /launch/ then the 360 did at it's launch but the 360 outsold the PS3 during the Holiday season and as far as I'm aware it still does (in the USA anyway). The PS3 is a very powerful machine but only a moron would argue this whole " Oblivion " issue. The 360 version is getting a patch to make it look about as good as the PS3 version. And from what I've seen the PS3 version doesn't look that much better to begin with. MotorStorm is a good looking game but it's not at the same level as Gear of War, I can actually see pixels on the ground at the vehicle select screen :/