PS3 uses five times more energy than a fridge

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#101 carlisledavid79
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[QUOTE="carlisledavid79"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

It's true that the PS3 uses five times more energy than a fridge, but the annual electricity bill might vary because some might not even use their PS3 at all, and some might use it all the time to watch blu ray movies.

ReverseCycology

PSN ID ?

Why, are you gonna spam me too? I PMed a couple of people my PSN ID, and yep, I got spammed. Now I'm trying to find a way to block them. I know there's this option above their PSN ID if they're on my friend's list, but I'm not sure how to block random people.

You dont have to worry wbout me spamming you. I own both consoles. So you know what to add.

(but we all know you dont have a PS3)

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#102 Miss_Wacy
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[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

It's true that the PS3 uses five times more energy than a fridge, but the annual electricity bill might vary because some might not even use their PS3 at all, and some might use it all the time to watch blu ray movies.

carlisledavid79

PSN ID ?

wasent he proven to be a fakeboy? :lol:

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#103 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="PS_John"]whatever guys im leavingcarljohnson3456

SOMEBODY ACTUALLY GAVE HIM A PIC!

http://i27.tinypic.com/ae1xc2.jpg

LAWL i love it :lol:
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#104 crunchUK
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Atleast we can leave our PS3s on without the risk of getting RROD

PS_John

man i love originality. too bad your post is devoid of it. you even have an RROD sig. i feel slightly moe dpressed after reading your post

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#105 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

I "helped" him out. :P

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26418277&msg_id=302040122#302040122

carljohnson3456

lol Dude do you have your 360 on lego blocks to help with the heat???

lol Why didnt I think of that??

Yes indeed. I've heard the best way to keep it ventillated is to keep it on a raised platform. I had some lego blocks left over from when I was a kid (they're all in a big box in my closet) so I went ahead and built one. :P

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#106 carljohnson3456
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

[QUOTE="PS_John"]whatever guys im leavingblue_hazy_basic

SOMEBODY ACTUALLY GAVE HIM A PIC!

http://i27.tinypic.com/ae1xc2.jpg

LAWL i love it :lol:

lol Man dont ever change your sig, that is too much ownage and I dont want to forget! lol.

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#107 carlisledavid79
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[QUOTE="carlisledavid79"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

It's true that the PS3 uses five times more energy than a fridge, but the annual electricity bill might vary because some might not even use their PS3 at all, and some might use it all the time to watch blu ray movies.

Miss_Wacy

PSN ID ?

wasent he proven to be a fakeboy? :lol:

He hasnt proven he has a PS3 yet, Dont say that though or you'll be on the "list"

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#108 carljohnson3456
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

I "helped" him out. :P

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26418277&msg_id=302040122#302040122

The_Game21x

lol Dude do you have your 360 on lego blocks to help with the heat???

lol Why didnt I think of that??

Yes indeed. I've heard the best way to keep it ventillated is to keep it on a raised platform. I had some lego blocks left over from when I was a kid (they're all in a big box in my closet) so I went ahead and built one. :P

lol That is so simple and effective, and I didnt even think of that. I actually tired stacking quarters on all four corners of the 360 to keep it elevated, needless to say, they didnt stay very well, lol.

I got some ol' legos in the closet. I might build me a platform for my 360 too. While I'm at it, I might just go ahead and build a replica of my house. :lol:

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#109 warmaster670
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]I dread to think how much my PC costs a year :SStevo_the_gamer
Indeed! Depends on the PSU though... I'm sure my 650W costs about 400 a year.

doesnt depend on the PSU, thats just the max, just like the PS3s 350w, just becasue it can do 650w or 350w, doesnt mean it does, the parts inside, and what there doing is much more important.

i have an 800w power supply, but i think i only need a 400w

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#110 Floppy_Jim
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[QUOTE="Miss_Wacy"][QUOTE="carlisledavid79"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

It's true that the PS3 uses five times more energy than a fridge, but the annual electricity bill might vary because some might not even use their PS3 at all, and some might use it all the time to watch blu ray movies.

carlisledavid79

PSN ID ?

wasent he proven to be a fakeboy? :lol:

He hasnt proven he has a PS3 yet, Dont say that though or you'll be on the "list"

He's even starting to make threads in the PS3 forums:

http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26418360

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#111 carlisledavid79
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[QUOTE="carlisledavid79"][QUOTE="Miss_Wacy"][QUOTE="carlisledavid79"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

It's true that the PS3 uses five times more energy than a fridge, but the annual electricity bill might vary because some might not even use their PS3 at all, and some might use it all the time to watch blu ray movies.

Floppy_Jim

PSN ID ?

wasent he proven to be a fakeboy? :lol:

He hasnt proven he has a PS3 yet, Dont say that though or you'll be on the "list"

He's even starting to make threads in the PS3 forums:

http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26418360

looooooool really. :lol:

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#112 carljohnson3456
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[QUOTE="carlisledavid79"][QUOTE="Miss_Wacy"][QUOTE="carlisledavid79"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

It's true that the PS3 uses five times more energy than a fridge, but the annual electricity bill might vary because some might not even use their PS3 at all, and some might use it all the time to watch blu ray movies.

Floppy_Jim

PSN ID ?

wasent he proven to be a fakeboy? :lol:

He hasnt proven he has a PS3 yet, Dont say that though or you'll be on the "list"

He's even starting to make threads in the PS3 forums:

http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26418360

lol Until he actually proves different he's a fakeboy. He could very well have a PS3 but the fact he is so adament about not proving is fishy.

I'll be back on in a lil bit. Later fellas.

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#113 Floppy_Jim
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lol Until he actually proves different he's a fakeboy. He could very well have a PS3 but the fact he is so adament about not proving is fishy.

I'll be back on in a lil bit. Later fellas.

carljohnson3456

That's what I find so weird- I don't necessarily doubt he has a PS3 (I'm kinda 50/50 on that) but the fact that he would rather die instead of actually providing proof is what I find so bizarre. Hopefully he keeps getting harrassed- maybe he'll either stop posting or finally provide proof.

Ah, well. I'll see ya later.

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#114 carlisledavid79
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Incase anybody doubts me lol goto the images section of my profile.

(just excuse the room its been decorated since :lol: )

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#115 SOedipus
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He's even starting to make threads in the PS3 forums:

http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26418360

Floppy_Jim

First time I've seen him there, however his question is actually quite reasonable. I don't even know how to block users come to think of it so I take that part back from my previous post. Nonetheless, someone claiming to have seen him on PSN or a pick of his PS3 would suffice for proof.

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#116 PS_John
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what do i need to do to prove i have a xbox 360? can we just put all this behind us and move on please i regret it
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#117 st1ka
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what do i need to do to prove i have a xbox 360? can we just put all this behind us and move on please i regret itPS_John

you lied to us time and time again, what did you expect?

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#118 TBoogy
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My electric bill only goes up during the summer. Otherwise it's really cheap so screw the tree huggers and the liberals, I'll melt those ice caps soon enough! The polar bears can go to a zoo.Sins-of-Mosin

Oh my God...

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what do i need to do to prove i have a xbox 360? can we just put all this behind us and move on please i regret itPS_John
I believe you :)
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#120 carlisledavid79
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what do i need to do to prove i have a xbox 360? can we just put all this behind us and move on please i regret itPS_John

Sorry but you got owned

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#121 PS_John
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[QUOTE="PS_John"]what do i need to do to prove i have a xbox 360? can we just put all this behind us and move on please i regret itcarlisledavid79

Sorry but you got owned

i dont wanna start all this again but i have given enough proof i have a 360
1. my gamertag is PS_John
2. look at the link in my sig

so can we just put everything behind us

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#122 carlisledavid79
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[QUOTE="carlisledavid79"]

[QUOTE="PS_John"]what do i need to do to prove i have a xbox 360? can we just put all this behind us and move on please i regret itPS_John

Sorry but you got owned

i dont wanna start all this again but i have given enough proof i have a 360
1. my gamertag is PS_John
2. look at the link in my sig

so can we just put everything behind us

Dude, just give it up lmaoooooo

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#123 PS_John
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why dont you give up proving me wrong when the evidence i have a 360 is laid right infront of u
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#124 The_Game21x
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why dont you give up proving me wrong when the evidence i have a 360 is laid right infront of uPS_John

:lol: All you've done is prove that you'll go to desperate measures to try and pull the wool over our eyes.

Dude, you're not fooling anyone at this point (as if you were before...). Just give it up and try to save face.

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#126 carlisledavid79
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="PS_John"]why dont you give up proving me wrong when the evidence i have a 360 is laid right infront of uPS_John

:lol: All you've done is prove that you'll go to desperate measures to try and pull the wool over our eyes.

Dude, you're not fooling anyone at this point (as if you were before...). Just give it up and try to save face.

OMG fgs! I have done enough to prove i have one

Send me a msg on xbox live (PS John) and i will reply to prove i have a xbox

Dude its all over this thread ( and my own :lol: ) that you havent.

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#127 deactivated-57af49c27f4e8
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hey, at least us 360 owners are paying for something that gets better with time. electricity is just, well, electricity.
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#128 carljohnson3456
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PS_John, how come when I try to add you on Xbox.com it says "The gamertag you entered does not exist on Xbox LIVE."???
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#129 A_zombie
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why dont you give up proving me wrong when the evidence i have a 360 is laid right infront of uPS_John

Hadn't you said that you never got your 360 back from MS support when you sent it in for the RRoD?

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"][QUOTE="PS_John"]

i dunno what hipcrisy is but look at it this way

achicvements are just numbers like 10 points for doing a mission all it is is numbers and you cant even check what people did to get the numbers its just a number next to ur $50 a year username.

with trophys u can show off exactly wot u got the trophys for etc and they are not just numbers

PS_John

Wow... it's painfully obvious you don't have a 360.

Each achievement does have a number attached to it, but there's a description as well as a picture. Check wayneheads pic a few posts up.

EDIT...nevermind. I'll just repost the pic:

well sorry maybe i would know if my 360 didnt RROD a week after i got it and M$ never sent it back

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#130 PS_John
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PS_John, how come when I try to add you on Xbox.com it says "The gamertag you entered does not exist on Xbox LIVE."???carljohnson3456

well its here

http://live.xbox.com/member/PS+John

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#131 carljohnson3456
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]PS_John, how come when I try to add you on Xbox.com it says "The gamertag you entered does not exist on Xbox LIVE."???PS_John

well its here

http://live.xbox.com/member/PS+John

Let's recap...

Your gamer tag has zero gamerpoints, zero games played, your reputation hasnt even been touched, you got busted in another thread asking people to take a pic of your name by a 360... and you're anti-360.

You really expect us to believe you have a 360?

Tell me this, to prove. What games have you played???

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#132 PS_John
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[QUOTE="PS_John"]

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]PS_John, how come when I try to add you on Xbox.com it says "The gamertag you entered does not exist on Xbox LIVE."???carljohnson3456

well its here

http://live.xbox.com/member/PS+John

Let's recap...

Your gamer tag has zero gamerpoints, zero games played, your reputation hasnt even been touched, you got busted in another thread asking people to take a pic of your name by a 360... and you're anti-360.

You really expect us to believe you have a 360?

Tell me this, to prove. What games have you played???

i havent had a chance to play games cos of RROD and im not anti xbox 360?

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#133 Floppy_Jim
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="PS_John"]

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]PS_John, how come when I try to add you on Xbox.com it says "The gamertag you entered does not exist on Xbox LIVE."???PS_John

well its here

http://live.xbox.com/member/PS+John

Let's recap...

Your gamer tag has zero gamerpoints, zero games played, your reputation hasnt even been touched, you got busted in another thread asking people to take a pic of your name by a 360... and you're anti-360.

You really expect us to believe you have a 360?

Tell me this, to prove. What games have you played???

i havent had a chance to play games cos of RROD and im not anti xbox 360?

Don't worry, PS_John. I believe you.

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#134 jknight5422
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The PS3 owners are saving energy by the simple fact that they aren't using their systems for gaming & the odd viewing of boring blu-ray movie. It makes for a great dust collector & useful paper weight though.
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#135 carljohnson3456
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="PS_John"]

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]PS_John, how come when I try to add you on Xbox.com it says "The gamertag you entered does not exist on Xbox LIVE."???PS_John

well its here

http://live.xbox.com/member/PS+John

Let's recap...

Your gamer tag has zero gamerpoints, zero games played, your reputation hasnt even been touched, you got busted in another thread asking people to take a pic of your name by a 360... and you're anti-360.

You really expect us to believe you have a 360?

Tell me this, to prove. What games have you played???

i havent had a chance to play games cos of RROD and im not anti xbox 360?

So are you saying your 360 RROD'd before you ever turned it on to play a game?

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#136 carljohnson3456
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The PS3 owners are saving energy by the simple fact that they aren't using their systems for gaming & the odd viewing of boring blu-ray movie. It makes for a great dust collector & useful paper weight though.jknight5422

So is the RROD a designed feature that allows the 360 owner to save electricity for a whole month?

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#137 jknight5422
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i havent had a chance to play games cos of RROD and im not anti xbox 360?

PS_John

Microsoft gives you a free replacements with a 3 year warranty. It only took me 3 weeks to get a replacement & it has already lasted over 1 year without a single crash. I'm hoping it'll crash again so I can get another one with another 3 year replacement & that I can keep playing the Xbox 360 for free through the lifetime of its production. What kind of warranty does the PS3 have? At the end of 3 years, it might crap out on you & then you have to go buy another one at full price since your warranty is used up. The unstability works out because Microsoft will openly take care of the problem for you. I'd like to see Sony be able to do that. Instead the delaystation will die when the warranty is gone & then you can buy another one. Go you.

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#138 Eponique
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Apparently, when they're both off for the entire year, the 360 uses up more power.

Here are the yearly money suckage per console (if you played a game for a year straight):

PS3 - $260.76
360 - $203.38
Wii - $24.58

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#139 Floppy_Jim
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The PS3 owners are saving energy by the simple fact that they aren't using their systems for gaming & the odd viewing of boring blu-ray movie. It makes for a great dust collector & useful paper weight though.jknight5422

That was a bland comment.

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#140 LEGEND_C4A
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[QUOTE="PS_John"]

Atleast we can leave our PS3s on without the risk of getting RROD

st1ka

so how is "your" xbox 360 doing?

i couldnt help it :P

is this the dude that lied about owning a 360? and got cought creating a silver account? this dude has no credibility!

unless he proved it, then I take it back.

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#141 jknight5422
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[QUOTE="jknight5422"]The PS3 owners are saving energy by the simple fact that they aren't using their systems for gaming & the odd viewing of boring blu-ray movie. It makes for a great dust collector & useful paper weight though.carljohnson3456

So is the RROD a designed feature that allows the 360 owner to save electricity for a whole month?

Only 3 weeks. It's fine by me. They pay shipping & handling, they send you the coffin to put your Xbox in, & they send you another one that looks good as new & plays just fine. I'd happily exchange my Xbox 360 every year if I could just because of that perfect 3 year warranty. It's really not that much of an inconvenience when you look at getting a new 3 year warranty when it breaks with the next one that comes in. Sadly, it doesn't break very often for me, only that one time. Dangit.

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#142 Eponique
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[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="PS_John"]

Atleast we can leave our PS3s on without the risk of getting RROD

LEGEND_C4A

so how is "your" xbox 360 doing?

i couldnt help it :P

is this the dude that lied about owning a 360? and got cought creating a silver account? this dude has no credibility!

unless he proved it, then I take it back.

Omg, was there a thread? Link pls?

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#143 carljohnson3456
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[QUOTE="PS_John"]

i havent had a chance to play games cos of RROD and im not anti xbox 360?

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Microsoft gives you a free replacements with a 3 year warranty. It only took me 3 weeks to get a replacement & it has already lasted over 1 year without a single crash. I'm hoping it'll crash again so I can get another one with another 3 year replacement & that I can keep playing the Xbox 360 for free through the lifetime of its production. What kind of warranty does the PS3 have? At the end of 3 years, it might crap out on you & then you have to go buy another one at full price since your warranty is used up. The unstability works out because Microsoft will openly take care of the problem for you. I'd like to see Sony be able to do that. Instead the delaystation will die when the warranty is gone & then you can buy another one. Go you.

The instability of the 360 works out because MS has a 3 year warranty that pertains to only the RROD? And the warranty doesnt renew after every refurb, but 3 years from date of purchace. How about stability works out, huh?

I've never once heard anyone try to justify the 360's faultyness yet try to degrade the PS3's reliability. That's a new one.

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[QUOTE="jknight5422"]The PS3 owners are saving energy by the simple fact that they aren't using their systems for gaming & the odd viewing of boring blu-ray movie. It makes for a great dust collector & useful paper weight though.jknight5422

So is the RROD a designed feature that allows the 360 owner to save electricity for a whole month?

Only 3 weeks. It's fine by me. They pay shipping & handling, they send you the coffin to put your Xbox in, & they send you another one that looks good as new & plays just fine. I'd happily exchange my Xbox 360 every year if I could just because of that perfect 3 year warranty. It's really not that much of an inconvenience when you look at getting a new 3 year warranty when it breaks with the next one that comes in. Sadly, it doesn't break very often for me, only that one time. Dangit.

What??? For one, it took me an even 4 weeks, and I would rather just have one reliable console for 7 years than a 7 refurbs in 7 years. Why would you rather get a refurb every year when you could have one reliable one year after year?

That is crazy.

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#146 akif22
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interesting

that's a lot of money that we're spending without even realising it

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#147 jknight5422
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[QUOTE="jknight5422"][QUOTE="PS_John"]

i havent had a chance to play games cos of RROD and im not anti xbox 360?

carljohnson3456

Microsoft gives you a free replacements with a 3 year warranty. It only took me 3 weeks to get a replacement & it has already lasted over 1 year without a single crash. I'm hoping it'll crash again so I can get another one with another 3 year replacement & that I can keep playing the Xbox 360 for free through the lifetime of its production. What kind of warranty does the PS3 have? At the end of 3 years, it might crap out on you & then you have to go buy another one at full price since your warranty is used up. The unstability works out because Microsoft will openly take care of the problem for you. I'd like to see Sony be able to do that. Instead the delaystation will die when the warranty is gone & then you can buy another one. Go you.

The instability of the 360 works out because MS has a 3 year warranty that pertains to only the RROD? And the warranty doesnt renew after every refurb, but 3 years from date of purchace. How about stability works out, huh?

I've never once heard anyone try to justify the 360's faultyness yet try to degrade the PS3's reliability. That's a new one.

It totally works out. The warranty is on the REFURB, not the date of purchase! You get a new unit, it's guaranteed 3 years. I already asked them about that. Just like when my Shure ES3 earbuds died, a $180 value, they died twice, each time the replacements were given a new 2 year warranty & they were replaced by Shure without incident. If the Microsoft warranty wasn't so long and the return time so quick, plus it being a free process, I'd have something to be unhappy about..but this just isn't the case.

Regretfully, this second Xbox 360 has been very stable. No crashes, no hangs, nothing! :( Perhaps one more year of use & then I expect it to break so I can get Softy to send me another free one. Don't cost nothing, except a few weeks of my time, which I can use my PC for gaming & be just as happy.

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Wow this is really dumb. Who cares if he has a 360 or not? And why is he so desperate to prove he has one? Dumb.
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Wow this is really dumb. Who cares if he has a 360 or not? And why is he so desperate to prove he has one? Dumb.Mario2007

He claims he has a 360 that RROD'd before he played his first game...

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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="jknight5422"][QUOTE="PS_John"]

i havent had a chance to play games cos of RROD and im not anti xbox 360?

jknight5422

Microsoft gives you a free replacements with a 3 year warranty. It only took me 3 weeks to get a replacement & it has already lasted over 1 year without a single crash. I'm hoping it'll crash again so I can get another one with another 3 year replacement & that I can keep playing the Xbox 360 for free through the lifetime of its production. What kind of warranty does the PS3 have? At the end of 3 years, it might crap out on you & then you have to go buy another one at full price since your warranty is used up. The unstability works out because Microsoft will openly take care of the problem for you. I'd like to see Sony be able to do that. Instead the delaystation will die when the warranty is gone & then you can buy another one. Go you.

The instability of the 360 works out because MS has a 3 year warranty that pertains to only the RROD? And the warranty doesnt renew after every refurb, but 3 years from date of purchace. How about stability works out, huh?

I've never once heard anyone try to justify the 360's faultyness yet try to degrade the PS3's reliability. That's a new one.

It totally works out. The warranty is on the REFURB, not the date of purchase! You get a new unit, it's guaranteed 3 years. I already asked them about that. Just like when my Shure ES3 earbuds died, a $180 value, they died twice, each time the replacements were given a new 2 year warranty & they were replaced by Shure without incident. If the Microsoft warranty wasn't so long and the return time so quick, plus it being a free process, I'd have something to be unhappy about..but this just isn't the case.

Regretfully, this second Xbox 360 has been very stable. No crashes, no hangs, nothing! :( Perhaps one more year of use & then I expect it to break so I can get Softy to send me another free one. Don't cost nothing, except a few weeks of my time, which I can use my PC for gaming & be just as happy.

Unless you prove me wrong with other than he said, she said - I dont beleive the 3 year warranty goes to every refurb. Me, and everyone I know understands it as 3 year from date of purchase.

But go ahead, prove me wrong, seriously, I hope you can, lol.