PS3 vs 360- Games library

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="mD-"] Your post suggested to me that you're saying that 360 having higher scoring games for 2010 is the reason why people vote for itmD-

Well we see who the real fanboy is. : )

Honestly I have a ton more games on my 360 than I do on any other console. 360 is my console of choice, a ton of truly amazing XBLA titles as well as the best scoring library of games. I also despise the PS3's controller, so that's a big plus in the 360's category for me.

[QUOTE="mD-"][QUOTE="locopatho"] Ok so whats your question? Its this year and overall too.locopatho

Because people don't think about all the best games currently talked about or the most recent games compared or the future one compared to the much older ones? :roll:

[QUOTE="mD-"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

the 360 has more high scoring exclusives than the ps3 does. :?

CaseyWegner

yes. old games = crap. got it.

that's not how things work. if a game is from this generation, it counts.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="mD-"]

People voting 360 must be either be Xbox 360 only owners or Xbox 360 fanboys. It really doesn't make much sense why you would pick the 360 at this point unless you are in extreme denial lol. Maybe you hate all other games and love Halo, fine. But, for 60 people to vote 360 means that you are missing some of gamings best because you can't let go of your feelings and negative bias

mD-

the 360 has more high scoring exclusives than the ps3 does. :?

I have read it again, and again...

I honestly dont see your point :|

People voting 360 must be either be Xbox 360 only owners or Xbox 360 fanboys. It really doesn't make much sense why you would pick the 360 at this point unless you are in extreme denial lol. Maybe you hate all other games and love Halo, fine. But, for 60 people to vote 360 means that you are missing some of gamings best because you can't let go of your feelings and negative bias

mD-

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="mD-"] I didn't get the point you were trying to make which is why I asked "so". Having 2010 as a year of higher scoring games isn't exactly a good reason why the 360 is the better overall library. Also, counting scores isn't very convincing either, especially when games are a lot better than they were 4 years ago. The PS3 library has a variety of pretty high scoring games in its library (more than the 360). I can't find a game similar to the ratchet and clank series on the 360. I can't find anything like Modnation. The list goes on, but yet people continuously use stupid lists instead of providing actual examples. Those lists are flawed because games have gotten better. mD-

Because people don't think about all the best games currently talked about or the most recent games compared or the future one compared to the much older ones? :roll:

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="mD-"] Lol, read the last few posts.KevinButlerVP

yes. old games = crap. got it.

that's not how things work. if a game is from this generation, it counts.

to who?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="mD-"] Lol, read the last few posts.KevinButlerVP

yes. old games = crap. got it.

that's not how things work. if a game is from this generation, it counts.

And again, in this exact year, 360 had more high scoring games than PS3. I love this 360 games are old myth lol

[QUOTE="mD-"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

the 360 has more high scoring exclusives than the ps3 does. :?

CaseyWegner

yes. old games = crap. got it.

that's not how things work. if a game is from this generation, it counts. arguing otherwise just makes things worse for you.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="mD-"] Lol, read the last few posts.mD-

yes. old games = crap. got it.

that's not how things work. if a game is from this generation, it counts. arguing otherwise just makes things worse for you.

For your convenience and enjoyment I have condensed my response into a fun and easy to read list..

1. If games like Epic Mickey and Gran Turismo have shown us anything is that you can not judge the quality of future unreleased titles as sure as everyone is they will be AAA.

2. You would be absolutely correct if we were talking about the first Xbox but it is the same generation and 1st gen 360 games are still a lot of fun.

3. For the sake of argument lets say you were right and we take away all of the past games. 360 had more high scoring games JUST THIS YEAR.

4. Microsoft has not even announced their 2011 lineup yet, according to Microsoft a couple weeks ago.

People voting 360 must be either be Xbox 360 only owners or Xbox 360 fanboys. It really doesn't make much sense why you would pick the 360 at this point unless you are in extreme denial lol. Maybe you hate all other games and love Halo, fine. But, for 60 people to vote 360 means that you are missing some of gamings best because you can't let go of your feelings and negative bias

mD-

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="mD-"] Lol, read the last few posts.mD-

yes. old games = crap. got it.

that's not how things work. if a game is from this generation, it counts. arguing otherwise just makes things worse for you.

game quality does not decay that fast, dude. it's still the same generation and that's what counts. the ps3 has made a lot of progress but it's not there yet. why can't you just be pleased with that?

[QUOTE="mD-"][QUOTE="locopatho"] Ok so whats your question? Its this year and overall too.JStroud88

Well we see who the real fanboy is. : )

Honestly I have a ton more games on my 360 than I do on any other console. 360 is my console of choice, a ton of truly amazing XBLA titles as well as the best scoring library of games. I also despise the PS3's controller, so that's a big plus in the 360's category for me.

[QUOTE="JStroud88"]

[QUOTE="mD-"] I didn't get the point you were trying to make which is why I asked "so". Having 2010 as a year of higher scoring games isn't exactly a good reason why the 360 is the better overall library. Also, counting scores isn't very convincing either, especially when games are a lot better than they were 4 years ago. The PS3 library has a variety of pretty high scoring games in its library (more than the 360). I can't find a game similar to the ratchet and clank series on the 360. I can't find anything like Modnation. The list goes on, but yet people continuously use stupid lists instead of providing actual examples. Those lists are flawed because games have gotten better. mD-

Well we see who the real fanboy is. : )

Honestly I have a ton more games on my 360 than I do on any other console. 360 is my console of choice, a ton of truly amazing XBLA titles as well as the best scoring library of games. I also despise the PS3's controller, so that's a big plus in the 360's category for me.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] lol no old games dont equal crap but new games definitely have more relevance than a 2005 gamemD-

And again, in this exact year, 360 had more high scoring games than PS3. I love this 360 games are old myth lol

[QUOTE="JStroud88"]

[QUOTE="mD-"] I didn't get the point you were trying to make which is why I asked "so". Having 2010 as a year of higher scoring games isn't exactly a good reason why the 360 is the better overall library. Also, counting scores isn't very convincing either, especially when games are a lot better than they were 4 years ago. The PS3 library has a variety of pretty high scoring games in its library (more than the 360). I can't find a game similar to the ratchet and clank series on the 360. I can't find anything like Modnation. The list goes on, but yet people continuously use stupid lists instead of providing actual examples. Those lists are flawed because games have gotten better. mD-

Well we see who the real fanboy is. : )

Honestly I have a ton more games on my 360 than I do on any other console. 360 is my console of choice, a ton of truly amazing XBLA titles as well as the best scoring library of games. I also despise the PS3's controller, so that's a big plus in the 360's category for me.

how can the overall library be compared when you dismiss the merits of older games just because they are older?

[QUOTE="JStroud88"]

[QUOTE="mD-"] I didn't get the point you were trying to make which is why I asked "so". Having 2010 as a year of higher scoring games isn't exactly a good reason why the 360 is the better overall library. Also, counting scores isn't very convincing either, especially when games are a lot better than they were 4 years ago. The PS3 library has a variety of pretty high scoring games in its library (more than the 360). I can't find a game similar to the ratchet and clank series on the 360. I can't find anything like Modnation. The list goes on, but yet people continuously use stupid lists instead of providing actual examples. Those lists are flawed because games have gotten better. mD-

Well we see who the real fanboy is. : )

Honestly I have a ton more games on my 360 than I do on any other console. 360 is my console of choice, a ton of truly amazing XBLA titles as well as the best scoring library of games. I also despise the PS3's controller, so that's a big plus in the 360's category for me.

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

yes. old games = crap. got it.

that's not how things work. if a game is from this generation, it counts.

CaseyWegner

to who?

[QUOTE="mD-"]

People voting 360 must be either be Xbox 360 only owners or Xbox 360 fanboys. It really doesn't make much sense why you would pick the 360 at this point unless you are in extreme denial lol. Maybe you hate all other games and love Halo, fine. But, for 60 people to vote 360 means that you are missing some of gamings best because you can't let go of your feelings and negative bias

delta3074

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] lol no old games dont equal crap but new games definitely have more relevance than a 2005 gameKevinButlerVP

to who?

of course they are talked about more because they are new. what does that have to do with quality?

The Xbox360 has just as many high scoring exclusives and superior multiplats.

Gears of War and Halo are the best shooters, while Forza is the best racing game.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] lol no old games dont equal crap but new games definitely have more relevance than a 2005 gameKevinButlerVP

to who?

[QUOTE="JStroud88"]

[QUOTE="mD-"] I didn't get the point you were trying to make which is why I asked "so". Having 2010 as a year of higher scoring games isn't exactly a good reason why the 360 is the better overall library. Also, counting scores isn't very convincing either, especially when games are a lot better than they were 4 years ago. The PS3 library has a variety of pretty high scoring games in its library (more than the 360). I can't find a game similar to the ratchet and clank series on the 360. I can't find anything like Modnation. The list goes on, but yet people continuously use stupid lists instead of providing actual examples. Those lists are flawed because games have gotten better. mD-

Well we see who the real fanboy is. : )

Honestly I have a ton more games on my 360 than I do on any other console. 360 is my console of choice, a ton of truly amazing XBLA titles as well as the best scoring library of games. I also despise the PS3's controller, so that's a big plus in the 360's category for me.

More specific than using numbers? Man, 360 has more A, AA and AAA games than PS3. theres nothing vague about it! That´s reason enough for some people to vote 360 in the poll...:?

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

to who?

CaseyWegner

of course they are talked about more because they are new. what does that have to do with quality?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] to everyone, including the media you won't hear of a Too Human review nowadays because its 3 years old and the same can be applied to many things. are old news stories still as relevant as new ones? noKevinButlerVP

of course they are talked about more because they are new. what does that have to do with quality?

in the context of this thread, what's the difference? why shouldn't their quality be relevant? this thread is about system libraries so all games are relevant.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] to everyone, including the media you won't hear of a Too Human review nowadays because its 3 years old and the same can be applied to many things. are old news stories still as relevant as new ones? noKevinButlerVP

of course they are talked about more because they are new. what does that have to do with quality?

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

of course they are talked about more because they are new. what does that have to do with quality?

delta3074

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

of course they are talked about more because they are new. what does that have to do with quality?

delta3074

i've noticed that the quality decay is only ever applied to 360 games.

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

of course they are talked about more because they are new. what does that have to do with quality?

CaseyWegner

in the context of this thread, what's the difference? why shouldn't their quality be relevant? this thread is about system libraries so all games are relevant.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] when did I say anything about old games not having quality? I was talking about relevanceCaseyWegner

i've noticed that the quality decay is only ever applied to 360 games.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] when did I say anything about old games not having quality? I was talking about relevanceKevinButlerVP

in the context of this thread, what's the difference? why shouldn't their quality be relevant? this thread is about system libraries so all games are relevant.

only if it's a 360 game though, right?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] when did I say anything about old games not having quality? I was talking about relevanceKevinButlerVP

in the context of this thread, what's the difference? why shouldn't their quality be relevant? this thread is about system libraries so all games are relevant.

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

in the context of this thread, what's the difference? why shouldn't their quality be relevant? this thread is about system libraries so all games are relevant.

CaseyWegner

only if it's a 360 game though, right?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] time can change the quality of games because of standards, a game that came out in 2005 may have been amazing in its time but 6 years later it would have been more than likely beaten by many other gamesKevinButlerVP

only if it's a 360 game though, right?

360 embraces all game types and aims to be the future of gaming.

PS3 "perfects" PS2 games, but they still feel like PS2 games.

PC... no one really cares except for PC kids.

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

only if it's a 360 game though, right?

delta3074

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] time can change the quality of games because of standards, a game that came out in 2005 may have been amazing in its time but 6 years later it would have been more than likely beaten by many other gamesKevinButlerVP

only if it's a 360 game though, right?

it's based on history. i didn't expect you to say it in the open though.

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

only if it's a 360 game though, right?

CaseyWegner

it's based on history. i didn't expect you to say it in the open though.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] no, why would you think that?KevinButlerVP

so what's the arbitrary cutoff date? (aka whatever makes the 360 look worse)

To me the ps3 has had more variety in the last couple years than the 360 and the fact that I don't pay for live incline me to say ps3.

It seems like me arguing isn't going anywhere since people aren't really thinking about what they're saying at all. Comparing libraries isn't suppose to be as easy as counting a list of A, AA, and AAA games and choosing which is better based off that. Reason: While there are some great older games (that I still play today), there are also some that have scored high in certain genres, but cannot simply compare to whats offered today especially in the FPS category. My reasoning for the PS3 library being better really comes down to the variety of very good exclusive games across genres in addition to many of the multiplats compared to the Xbox 360 library. And it's not like these are just decent games. Many of them happen to be some of the best of their genres this gen.

Most notably (we are talking PS3 vs Xbox 360 exclusives, meaning you can't play one on the other system - these are not complete lists):

Killzone 2, Infamous, Little Big Planet, Uncharted 1, Uncharted 2, Ratchet and Clank: Tools of Destruction, Ratchet and Clank: A Crack in Time, Demons Soul's, Warhawk, Resistance 1, Resistance 2, Modnation Racer's, God of War III, Heavy Rain, Metal Gear Solid 4, God of War Collection, Gran Turismo 5, Wipeout HD, MLB The Show 2010, PixelJunk Shooter,...

Now I mentioned in an early post that I made the mistake of taking into consideration everything that would be coming out next year (which is a lot!). If you factor that in, then the differences in library become more apparent.

Though the Xbox 360 has many exclusives: Perfect Dark Zero, Viva Pinata, Kameo, Gears of War, Gears of War 2, Halo 3, Halo ODST, Halo Reach, Mass Effect, Fable II, Dead of Alive 4, Super Meat Boy, Limbo, Forza 2, Forza 3, Crackdown, Splinter Cell Conviction, Alan Wake, Left 4 Dead, Left 4 Dead 2...

I feel it lacks in the variety that the PS3 exclusives have across all genres. Also, I feel that the overall quality in those exclusive games on the PS3 are higher than the 360s based on my impression, reviews, etc...

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="mD-"] Lol, read the last few posts.KevinButlerVP

yes. old games = crap. got it.

that's not how things work. if a game is from this generation, it counts.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] no, why would you think that?KevinButlerVP

Though the Xbox 360 has many exclusives: Perfect Dark Zero, Viva Pinata, Kameo, Gears of War, Gears of War 2, Halo 3, Halo ODST, Halo Reach, Mass Effect, Fable II, Dead of Alive 4, Super Meat Boy, Limbo, Forza 2, Forza 3, Crackdown, Splinter Cell Conviction, Alan Wake, Left 4 Dead, Left 4 Dead 2...

mD-

you left other genre games like culdcept saga, scene it, deathsmiles, saint's row, and ace combat 6. did you just not know about these or were they left out to shrink the 360's game variety?

In addition to all of those in this thread basing your logic on counts of A, AA, and AAA, by your logic if a console was to have 10 AAA exclusives of only games in the puzzle genre and the other console had 7 AAA games of various genres, the console with 10 AAA must have the better library right? It's that easy right?

Also, I don't understand why some of you can't see that the main reason why the dates are relevant. You keep saying something similar: "LOL WHATS THE CUT OFF DATE THEN FOR GAMES THAT COUNT?" or "WOW I GUESS OLD GAMES DON'T COUNT". I really don't see how you can't understand the point I'm trying to make makes perfect sense, lol. If you recommend 360 games to your friend you aren't going to tell him to go get Perfect Dark Zero and Ninja Blade first. Regardless of whether you think those are still good games is besides the point. The general belief is that there are better games out today so more weight should be placed on those games that are better.

If there's an old game like Halo 3, which is a lot of fun and still holds up with the giants then great because that's another great addition to a library of games to play. But, games like Perfect Dark Zero are ones that counted in that list of AAA games. Are you really going to explain to me that comparing these lists are an accurate representation of the quality of a gaming library? They aren't, and like I've said 10000000x times in this thread, it's not suppose to be easy to compare a library because comparing counts of A, AA, and AAA games doesn't work well for the reason I've just explained. This logic really isn't hard to understand.

You can do the exact same thing with some PS3 exclusives like Resistance 1, which don't hold up compared to FPSs out right now.

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

yes. old games = crap. got it.

that's not how things work. if a game is from this generation, it counts.

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