PS3 vs. 360 graphics debate should end already. PS3 has won.

Even after so many professional sites went on records saying Uncharted has the best graphics on consoles, some lemmings here still refuse to believe. Now that GT5p is out, the debate should end already. If you have played GT5p and not say the PS3 has the best graphics on any console, then I regard you as nothing more than a blind fanboy.

Have you ever seen a more realistic looking game on any console? If you answer no, then the graphics debate has ended.

The debate finished long ago, and its based on devs how well they can design the graphics, not the consoles.

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The debate should be ended, but the reasons you placed for that TC are ENTIRELY WRONG.

The fact is, the visual quality on both the PS3 and the Xbox 360 is so ridiculously close, people are just nitpicking over the most minute, and ultimately insubstantial details to have bragging rights. As if there was a gap between them like comparing PS1 and Gamecube.

And if one system has a new game that juuuuuust edges in graphics over the other platform? It's still young into this generation. The other will come out with something that tops that (again by just a small margin) as the two competitors escalate their battle of one upmanship. And NO, neither console has "maxed out its potential" after only 2 years as some fanboys like to say. Which is a GOOD thing for us gamers. We reap the benefits of their trying to earn our favor.

Also, many people overlook the importance of art direction and sty1e that it's not just about the technical graphics of polygons, texture resolution, surface refraction and such. Games like Okami and Killer 7 have a unique and beautiful sty1e

Bottom line - either one of these systems will give you a gaming experience with brilliant visuals that will pull you into an immersive world of both realism and art design. The battle for "graphics supremacy" is ultimately futile.

Even after so many professional sites went on records saying Uncharted has the best graphics on consoles, some lemmings here still refuse to believe. Now that GT5p is out, the debate should end already. If you have played GT5p and not say the PS3 has the best graphics on any console, then I regard you as nothing more than a blind fanboy.

Have you ever seen a more realistic looking game on any console? If you answer no, then the graphics debate has ended.

Sihanouk

I own an Xbox 360 myself, and I think it would be ignorant of me to say that the PS3 doesnt have greater capabilities graphically.But just like the PS2 was the weakest machine last gen, and still managed to kick but doesnt mean that graphics are everything.

pretty sad how 360 is a year older yet it has the same graphics as ps3deadmeat59

It's also pretty sad that PS3 was released a year later and the difference between both consoles is pretty minimal and considering how fast technology can evolve during 1 year then you shouldn't really say that MS did a lousy job with X-box 360 hardware, expect for the RROD.

pretty sad how 360 is a year older yet it has the same graphics as ps3deadmeat59

How is it sad, the PS3 came out a year later wich means it should have better technology. It should be the other way around, sad how a system thats a year old can have the same graphics of a newer system.

pretty sad how 360 is a year older yet it has the same graphics as ps3deadmeat59

sad? why is it sad? i think it is awesome that both consoles have such amazing graphics. i think its sad how people get all EMO over different consoles graphics. Its about what developers do with the consoles, not what consoles do with graphics.

pretty sad how 360 is a year older yet it has the same graphics as ps3deadmeat59

ehhh..heh....I agree.

Any way is was settled a while ago PS3 has the best graphics.

The debate has been over. While some 360 fans refuse to admit it if they looked at any up coming game for each system they would shut up. But its known the PS3 has better graphics but again its all up to the developer and how much effort they want to put into the game. The PS3 has the capibility for greater graphics and better physics but the developer could just not harness the power well enough.

Even after so many professional sites went on records saying Uncharted has the best graphics on consoles, some lemmings here still refuse to believe. Now that GT5p is out, the debate should end already. If you have played GT5p and not say the PS3 has the best graphics on any console, then I regard you as nothing more than a blind fanboy.

Have you ever seen a more realistic looking game on any console? If you answer no, then the graphics debate has ended.

Sihanouk

I still say Gears of War, a 2 year old game, still looks slightly better than Uncharted. I mean, the character models, alone, are better looking.

I know it's the cow's natural instinct to try and end the war when one decent looking game comes out, but this gen is far from over. There will games that will most likely make Uncharted look like Superman 64.

The debate has been over. While some 360 fans refuse to admit it if they looked at any up coming game for each system they would shut up. But its known the PS3 has better graphics but again its all up to the developer and how much effort they want to put into the game. The PS3 has the capibility for greater graphics and better physics but the developer could just not harness the power well enough.

beinss

Just like the PS2, huh?

Cows were convinced that devs would unleash the hidden power of the PS2. Someone should tell Sony to stop hiding it so well.

[QUOTE="deadmeat59"]pretty sad how 360 is a year older yet it has the same graphics as ps3lmblomas

How is it sad, the PS3 came out a year later wich means it should have better technology. It should be the other way around, sad how a system thats a year old can have the same graphics of a newer system.

Even worse is the cows have to install a lot of their games on their HDD for them to even run on par with the 360. :lol:

[QUOTE="Sihanouk"]

Even after so many professional sites went on records saying Uncharted has the best graphics on consoles, some lemmings here still refuse to believe. Now that GT5p is out, the debate should end already. If you have played GT5p and not say the PS3 has the best graphics on any console, then I regard you as nothing more than a blind fanboy.

Have you ever seen a more realistic looking game on any console? If you answer no, then the graphics debate has ended.

lmblomas

I own an Xbox 360 myself, and I think it would be ignorant of me to say that the PS3 doesnt have greater capabilities graphically.But just like the PS2 was the weakest machine last gen, and still managed to kick but doesnt mean that graphics are everything.

Listen to this guy, he knows what hes talking about.

[QUOTE="Sihanouk"]

Even after so many professional sites went on records saying Uncharted has the best graphics on consoles, some lemmings here still refuse to believe. Now that GT5p is out, the debate should end already. If you have played GT5p and not say the PS3 has the best graphics on any console, then I regard you as nothing more than a blind fanboy.

Have you ever seen a more realistic looking game on any console? If you answer no, then the graphics debate has ended.

MortalDecay

I still say Gears of War, a 2 year old game, still looks slightly better than Uncharted. I mean, the character models, alone, are better looking.

I know it's the cow's natural instinct to try and end the war when one decent looking game comes out, but this gen is far from over. There will games that will most likely make Uncharted look like Superman 64.

Even after so many professional sites went on records saying Uncharted has the best graphics on consoles, some lemmings here still refuse to believe. Now that GT5p is out, the debate should end already. If you have played GT5p and not say the PS3 has the best graphics on any console, then I regard you as nothing more than a blind fanboy.

Have you ever seen a more realistic looking game on any console? If you answer no, then the graphics debate has ended.

Sihanouk

Talk about blind fanboy. You sir are a hypocrite! First off MOST if not ALL game reviewers and sites stated Uncharted is ONE of the best looking console games. Not THE best, not to mention some games are just as good looking (DMC 4) and future games will surpass this.

Oh yea and those blurry grass and tree models in GT5:P are oh so real!

Go back to living in a fantasy world but please leave the intellectual debates to adults.

Even worse is the cows have to install a lot of their games on their HDD for them to even run on par with the 360. :lol:MortalDecay

AMEN to that! One of the reasons I stay FAR away form the PS3. I ******* HATE preinstalling games.

[QUOTE="Sihanouk"]

Even after so many professional sites went on records saying Uncharted has the best graphics on consoles, some lemmings here still refuse to believe. Now that GT5p is out, the debate should end already. If you have played GT5p and not say the PS3 has the best graphics on any console, then I regard you as nothing more than a blind fanboy.

Have you ever seen a more realistic looking game on any console? If you answer no, then the graphics debate has ended.

thegame1980

Talk about blind fanboy. You sir are a hypocrite! First off MOST if not ALL game reviewers and sites stated Uncharted is ONE of the best looking console games. Not THE best, not to mention some games are just as good looking (DMC 4) and future games will surpass this.

Oh yea and those blurry grass and tree models in GT5:P are oh so real!

Go back to living in a fantasy world but please leave the intellectual debates to adults.

The debate should be ended, but the reasons you placed for that TC are ENTIRELY WRONG.

The fact is, the visual quality on both the PS3 and the Xbox 360 is so ridiculously close, people are just nitpicking over the most minute, and ultimately insubstantial details to have bragging rights. As if there was a gap between them like comparing PS1 and Gamecube.

And if one system has a new game that juuuuuust edges in graphics over the other platform? It's still young into this generation. The other will come out with something that tops that (again by just a small margin) as the two competitors escalate their battle of one upmanship. And NO, neither console has "maxed out its potential" after only 2 years as some fanboys like to say. Which is a GOOD thing for us gamers. We reap the benefits of their trying to earn our favor.

Also, many people overlook the importance of art direction and sty1e that it's not just about the technical graphics of polygons, texture resolution, surface refraction and such. Games like Okami and Killer 7 have a unique and beautiful sty1e

Bottom line - either one of these systems will give you a gaming experience with brilliant visuals that will pull you into an immersive world of both realism and art design. The battle for "graphics supremacy" is ultimately futile.

AdobeArtist

Well said. Bravo!

do not, were you high at the time or is your tv messed up.shadowkiller11

I DO own a PS3 and have played Prolouge and the environment graphics are muddy and flat. GET OVER IT!

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

The debate should be ended, but the reasons you placed for that TC are ENTIRELY WRONG.

The fact is, the visual quality on both the PS3 and the Xbox 360 is so ridiculously close, people are just nitpicking over the most minute, and ultimately insubstantial details to have bragging rights. As if there was a gap between them like comparing PS1 and Gamecube.

And if one system has a new game that juuuuuust edges in graphics over the other platform? It's still young into this generation. The other will come out with something that tops that (again by just a small margin) as the two competitors escalate their battle of one upmanship. And NO, neither console has "maxed out its potential" after only 2 years as some fanboys like to say. Which is a GOOD thing for us gamers. We reap the benefits of their trying to earn our favor.

Also, many people overlook the importance of art direction and sty1e that it's not just about the technical graphics of polygons, texture resolution, surface refraction and such. Games like Okami and Killer 7 have a unique and beautiful sty1e

Bottom line - either one of these systems will give you a gaming experience with brilliant visuals that will pull you into an immersive world of both realism and art design. The battle for "graphics supremacy" is ultimately futile.

thegame1980

Well said. Bravo!

So the Wii is the most powerful console?

Adobe Artist is making a fallacy the likes of which we've seen many times on System Wars. Art direction does not equal technical graphics and we've consistently tried to prove to people like you (fanboys) that, no, it isn't a "ridiculously close margin" we've determined by "nitpicking."

Play Ratchet, play Uncharted. Then be quiet.

[QUOTE="shadowkiller11"]do not, were you high at the time or is your tv messed up.thegame1980

I DO own a PS3 and have played Prolouge and the environment graphics are muddy and flat. GET OVER IT!

Fanboy or liar?

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"][QUOTE="Sihanouk"]

Even after so many professional sites went on records saying Uncharted has the best graphics on consoles, some lemmings here still refuse to believe. Now that GT5p is out, the debate should end already. If you have played GT5p and not say the PS3 has the best graphics on any console, then I regard you as nothing more than a blind fanboy.

Have you ever seen a more realistic looking game on any console? If you answer no, then the graphics debate has ended.

shadowkiller11

I still say Gears of War, a 2 year old game, still looks slightly better than Uncharted. I mean, the character models, alone, are better looking.

I know it's the cow's natural instinct to try and end the war when one decent looking game comes out, but this gen is far from over. There will games that will most likely make Uncharted look like Superman 64.

Because I don't agree with the cows opinion?

i guess your highshadowkiller11

Bash those opinions that do not match yours. The true cow way.

[QUOTE="thegame1980"][QUOTE="shadowkiller11"]do not, were you high at the time or is your tv messed up.BobHipJames

I DO own a PS3 and have played Prolouge and the environment graphics are muddy and flat. GET OVER IT!

Fanboy or liar?

Neither. Want my PSN name? Played GT5:P at my friends last night he bought it.

I must be messed up then because I think games like Mario Galaxy and Mass Effect look pretty good. I've even been known to like a DS game or 2 because of the graphics. I guess I need glasses or something.fanboy999

That's more games than the cows have. They still haven't figured out how to play sales yet, on their PS3, even though they hype it so much. So all they have left are games with UBER EXTREME GRAPHICS, which only leaves less than a hand full.

[QUOTE="shadowkiller11"][QUOTE="MortalDecay"][QUOTE="Sihanouk"]

Even after so many professional sites went on records saying Uncharted has the best graphics on consoles, some lemmings here still refuse to believe. Now that GT5p is out, the debate should end already. If you have played GT5p and not say the PS3 has the best graphics on any console, then I regard you as nothing more than a blind fanboy.

Have you ever seen a more realistic looking game on any console? If you answer no, then the graphics debate has ended.

MortalDecay

I still say Gears of War, a 2 year old game, still looks slightly better than Uncharted. I mean, the character models, alone, are better looking.

I know it's the cow's natural instinct to try and end the war when one decent looking game comes out, but this gen is far from over. There will games that will most likely make Uncharted look like Superman 64.

Because I don't agree with the cows opinion?

Now you're understanding the arrogant cow way of thinking.

[QUOTE="fanboy999"]I must be messed up then because I think games like Mario Galaxy and Mass Effect look pretty good. I've even been known to like a DS game or 2 because of the graphics. I guess I need glasses or something.MortalDecay

That's more games than the cows have. They still haven't figured out how to play sales yet, on their PS3, even though they hype it so much. So all they have left are games with UBER EXTREME GRAPHICS, which only leaves less than a hand full.

Two most popular PS3 games "Just Wait" by SCEA and "Folding @ Home" by Stanford

[QUOTE="thegame1980"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

The debate should be ended, but the reasons you placed for that TC are ENTIRELY WRONG.

The fact is, the visual quality on both the PS3 and the Xbox 360 is so ridiculously close, people are just nitpicking over the most minute, and ultimately insubstantial details to have bragging rights. As if there was a gap between them like comparing PS1 and Gamecube.

And if one system has a new game that juuuuuust edges in graphics over the other platform? It's still young into this generation. The other will come out with something that tops that (again by just a small margin) as the two competitors escalate their battle of one upmanship. And NO, neither console has "maxed out its potential" after only 2 years as some fanboys like to say. Which is a GOOD thing for us gamers. We reap the benefits of their trying to earn our favor.

Also, many people overlook the importance of art direction and sty1e that it's not just about the technical graphics of polygons, texture resolution, surface refraction and such. Games like Okami and Killer 7 have a unique and beautiful sty1e

Bottom line - either one of these systems will give you a gaming experience with brilliant visuals that will pull you into an immersive world of both realism and art design. The battle for "graphics supremacy" is ultimately futile.

BobHipJames

Well said. Bravo!

So the Wii is the most powerful console?

Adobe Artist is making a fallacy the likes of which we've seen many times on System Wars. Art direction does not equal technical graphics and we've consistently tried to prove to people like you (fanboys) that, no, it isn't a "ridiculously close margin" we've determined by "nitpicking."

Play Ratchet, play Uncharted. Then be quiet.

Who honestly cares. Its all dependant on the capabilities of the developers coders. If they suck, the graphcis suffer. If they are proficient, then it will look great. If "uncharted" is the "king of grpahics" righ tnow, they could port it to the 360.. then what? on noes, both consoles wiould have the same graphcis! AHH! Imagine that!

Oh and for no reason, here is the word DIARHEA

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

[QUOTE="fanboy999"]I must be messed up then because I think games like Mario Galaxy and Mass Effect look pretty good. I've even been known to like a DS game or 2 because of the graphics. I guess I need glasses or something.thegame1980

That's more games than the cows have. They still haven't figured out how to play sales yet, on their PS3, even though they hype it so much. So all they have left are games with UBER EXTREME GRAPHICS, which only leaves less than a hand full.

Two most popular PS3 games "Just Wait" by SCEA and "Folding @ Home" by Stanford

Which can be combined. They can cure diseases while they wait.

[QUOTE="shadowkiller11"]i guess your highMortalDecay

Bash those opinions that do not match yours. The true cow way.

pretty sad how 360 is a year older yet it has the same graphics as ps3deadmeat59

All X360 has is a decent GPU, maybe they should've taken the extra year to actually have quality, HDMI, wifi and Blu-ray as well.

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"][QUOTE="shadowkiller11"][QUOTE="MortalDecay"][QUOTE="Sihanouk"]

Even after so many professional sites went on records saying Uncharted has the best graphics on consoles, some lemmings here still refuse to believe. Now that GT5p is out, the debate should end already. If you have played GT5p and not say the PS3 has the best graphics on any console, then I regard you as nothing more than a blind fanboy.

Have you ever seen a more realistic looking game on any console? If you answer no, then the graphics debate has ended.

thegame1980

I still say Gears of War, a 2 year old game, still looks slightly better than Uncharted. I mean, the character models, alone, are better looking.

I know it's the cow's natural instinct to try and end the war when one decent looking game comes out, but this gen is far from over. There will games that will most likely make Uncharted look like Superman 64.

Because I don't agree with the cows opinion?

Now you're understanding the arrogant cow way of thinking.

oh yeah gotta love those cows, they give us the best cut of meat and are as dumb as a post of frozen stupid!!

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

[QUOTE="shadowkiller11"]i guess your highshadowkiller11

Bash those opinions that do not match yours. The true cow way.

Then stop acting like a cow.

[QUOTE="deadmeat59"]pretty sad how 360 is a year older yet it has the same graphics as ps3EmperorSupreme

All X360 has is a decent GPU, maybe they should've taken the extra year to actually have quality, HDMI, wifi and Blu-ray as well.

After seeing what BluRay has done to the PS3, the LAST thing I would want in the 360 is a BluRay drive. Not until they up the drive speed. PS3 owners can live with it all they want, but I don't want to sit around, and waste my HDD space so a game can install and run like it should in the first place.

As long as people like you are making threads claiming one console is far graphically superior to the other, when you are infact splitting hairs, the debate will never end :|.csliney

didnt you post that same statment some where else?? or am I just not getting enough sleep??

anyway your bang on the money!

[QUOTE="BobHipJames"][QUOTE="thegame1980"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

The debate should be ended, but the reasons you placed for that TC are ENTIRELY WRONG.

The fact is, the visual quality on both the PS3 and the Xbox 360 is so ridiculously close, people are just nitpicking over the most minute, and ultimately insubstantial details to have bragging rights. As if there was a gap between them like comparing PS1 and Gamecube.

And if one system has a new game that juuuuuust edges in graphics over the other platform? It's still young into this generation. The other will come out with something that tops that (again by just a small margin) as the two competitors escalate their battle of one upmanship. And NO, neither console has "maxed out its potential" after only 2 years as some fanboys like to say. Which is a GOOD thing for us gamers. We reap the benefits of their trying to earn our favor.

Also, many people overlook the importance of art direction and sty1e that it's not just about the technical graphics of polygons, texture resolution, surface refraction and such. Games like Okami and Killer 7 have a unique and beautiful sty1e

Bottom line - either one of these systems will give you a gaming experience with brilliant visuals that will pull you into an immersive world of both realism and art design. The battle for "graphics supremacy" is ultimately futile.

Blood_Bampyre

Well said. Bravo!

So the Wii is the most powerful console?

Adobe Artist is making a fallacy the likes of which we've seen many times on System Wars. Art direction does not equal technical graphics and we've consistently tried to prove to people like you (fanboys) that, no, it isn't a "ridiculously close margin" we've determined by "nitpicking."

Play Ratchet, play Uncharted. Then be quiet.

BobHipJames, just HOW did I infer that Wii is more powerful than X360 or PS3? I said that art direction is highly overlooked by people who only look at the technical side of graphics. Flashy polygons and textures are great and all, but it's the art direction that sets the mood and tone of the game. Which is why it is not to be underestimated.

So yes, from the technical aspect X360 and PS3 are far more powerful than Wii. But even in that league, art sty1e is still integral to visual quality.

As for Uncharted, yes it IS an graphically beautiful game. But nothing that X360 isn't capable of. Again the gap between that and games like Bioshock, Gears, NG2, Mass Effect isn't THAT huge (see my earlier PS1 to Gamecube metaphore). Can you really tell me the visual fidelity between X360 and PS3 is that far apart? Really, can you?

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

The debate should be ended, but the reasons you placed for that TC are ENTIRELY WRONG.

The fact is, the visual quality on both the PS3 and the Xbox 360 is so ridiculously close, people are just nitpicking over the most minute, and ultimately insubstantial details to have bragging rights. As if there was a gap between them like comparing PS1 and Gamecube.

And if one system has a new game that juuuuuust edges in graphics over the other platform? It's still young into this generation. The other will come out with something that tops that (again by just a small margin) as the two competitors escalate their battle of one upmanship. And NO, neither console has "maxed out its potential" after only 2 years as some fanboys like to say. Which is a GOOD thing for us gamers. We reap the benefits of their trying to earn our favor.

Also, many people overlook the importance of art direction and sty1e that it's not just about the technical graphics of polygons, texture resolution, surface refraction and such. Games like Okami and Killer 7 have a unique and beautiful sty1e

Bottom line - either one of these systems will give you a gaming experience with brilliant visuals that will pull you into an immersive world of both realism and art design. The battle for "graphics supremacy" is ultimately futile.

AmyMizuno

In other words, just wait...I am getting so sick of seeing that. The cow's "Just Wait" theory didn't work for the PS2, and I doubt it'll work for the PS3.

Even after so many professional sites went on records saying Uncharted has the best graphics on consoles, some lemmings here still refuse to believe. Now that GT5p is out, the debate should end already. If you have played GT5p and not say the PS3 has the best graphics on any console, then I regard you as nothing more than a blind fanboy.

Have you ever seen a more realistic looking game on any console? If you answer no, then the graphics debate has ended.

Sihanouk

*waits till gears 2 comes out*

pretty sad how 360 is a year older yet it has the same graphics as ps3deadmeat59

the ps3 and xbox went into development at the exact same time. You guys forget that sony was suppost to release the ps3 1 year before the xbox actually released. Not that this was planned by at its unveiling it was said to be 1 year away. As was the 360. MS got 360 out but sony took an extra 2 years to develope.