PS3 vs X360 in multiplatform gaming experience.

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#1 jimmzeh
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I was thinking about which console out of PS3 and Xbox 360 is the better gaming system when it comes to games that can be played on both consoles (multiplats).

Is it stupid of me to think that the PS3's Blu-Ray media will enhance the graphics and picture quality simply because there is more space on it (50GB) to fit information on?

And let us also not forget which controller is best, I have used Dual Shock since PS1 was out and love the feel of it, whereas Xbox controllers I find take some getting used to. However I've only played PS3 once and that was in a shop playing Fifa 08 for like 5 minutes. I don't know anything about the Dual Shock 3 eg. Do they all come with integrated SixAxis? What percentage of games involve motion sensing?

Some of my friends who own 360's say that PS3's are not fluid graphically and and are "sh!tty". This is most probably because they own 360's and are biased, but I stll wonder if there is truth in what they say.

I haven't had much experience playing 360 or PS3, so I'd love to hear from people who own them.

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#3 jimmzeh
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Come on man... I need at least some reasoning to back that up.
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#4 LibertySaint
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really just look into the game before u buy it for either system. Its all up to the consumer.
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I was thinking about which console out of PS3 and Xbox 360 is the better gaming system when it comes to games that can be played on both consoles (multiplats).

Is it stupid of me to think that the PS3's Blu-Ray media will enhance the graphics and picture quality simply because there is more space on it (50GB) to fit information on?

And let us also not forget which controller is best, I have used Dual Shock since PS1 was out and love the feel of it, whereas Xbox controllers I find take some getting used to. However I've only played PS3 once and that was in a shop playing Fifa 08 for like 5 minutes. I don't know anything about the Dual Shock 3 eg. Do they all come with integrated SixAxis? What percentage of games involve motion sensing?

Some of my friends who own 360's say that PS3's are not fluid graphically and and are "sh!tty". This is most probably because they own 360's and are biased, but I stll wonder if there is truth in what they say.

I haven't had much experience playing 360 or PS3, so I'd love to hear from people who own them.

jimmzeh

this topic will pretty much start a war here in SW.

most multiplats look better on the 360 but that's because the devs are not completely used to programming for the PS3 yet. The exclusive titles on the PS3 look amazing and Uncharted is the best looking game on consoles to date and it it a PS3 exclusive, so the PS3 is capable for sure, it just has not shown it yet.

now, there are multiplats that look and play better on the PS3 like Oblivion and Dirt. Other multiplats are almost exact on both machines like COD4 and the darkness, and other games.

Certainly the early titles for both machines specially look bettter on the 360 though. the newer games, the difference is almost negligable although some title do look obviously better on the 360.

as for motion sensing, some of its uses are brilliant like in WarHawk or in Heavenly Sword, but for the most part it's turned off for me although I really enjoyed playing Heavenly Sword with the six axis controlls

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yep....its all up to the developers
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#7 jimmzeh
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[QUOTE="jimmzeh"]

I was thinking about which console out of PS3 and Xbox 360 is the better gaming system when it comes to games that can be played on both consoles (multiplats).

Is it stupid of me to think that the PS3's Blu-Ray media will enhance the graphics and picture quality simply because there is more space on it (50GB) to fit information on?

And let us also not forget which controller is best, I have used Dual Shock since PS1 was out and love the feel of it, whereas Xbox controllers I find take some getting used to. However I've only played PS3 once and that was in a shop playing Fifa 08 for like 5 minutes. I don't know anything about the Dual Shock 3 eg. Do they all come with integrated SixAxis? What percentage of games involve motion sensing?

Some of my friends who own 360's say that PS3's are not fluid graphically and and are "sh!tty". This is most probably because they own 360's and are biased, but I stll wonder if there is truth in what they say.

I haven't had much experience playing 360 or PS3, so I'd love to hear from people who own them.

MotoRacer81

this topic will pretty much start a war here in SW.

most multiplats look better on the 360 but that's because the devs are not completely used to programming for the PS3 yet. The exclusive titles on the PS3 look amazing and Uncharted is the best looking game on consoles to date and it it a PS3 exclusive, so the PS3 is capable for sure, it just has not shown it yet.

now, there are multiplats that look and play better on the PS3 like Oblivion and Dirt. Other multiplats are almost exact on both machines like COD4 and the darkness, and other games.

Certainly the early titles for both machines specially look bettter on the 360 though. the newer games, the difference is almost negligable although some title do look obviously better on the 360.

as for motion sensing, some of its uses are brilliant like in WarHawk or in Heavenly Sword, but for the most part it's turned off for me although I really enjoyed playing Heavenly Sword with the six axis controlls

Great answer :)

To me, it seems like motion sensing is a massive move for Sony, and I'm not quite sure I could get into it after playing normal console games for so long (and disliking Wii)

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Multiplayerwise cows will try to tell you that PSN is somewhat comparable to XBL. In reality it's not.
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#9 Animal-Mother
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yeah my brother plays oblivion on 360 i play it on ps3, its barely noticable, i mean yeah games attract you because they look good, but whats a smidge of extra detail on the grass going to do for the game, make it a AAAA game, no just really reasearch the game first
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#10 CommanderTy
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Well ive seen pros and cons on both system but if your talkin bout multi plat PC PWNS ALL!!!!!!
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yep....its all up to the developerstiger35010
and i second that plus the dude with the really big and very good post hats off to you my friend
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#12 Animal-Mother
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Well ive seen pros and cons on both system but if your talkin bout multi plat PC PWNS ALL!!!!!!CommanderTy
well listen i admit the PC has some power behind but other than KB/M controls for fps and some 3rd person games its not that great, i mean try to imagine playing dmc 4 on a pc
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#13 Puckhog04
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Well ive seen pros and cons on both system but if your talkin bout multi plat PC PWNS ALL!!!!!!CommanderTy

PC owns all in terms of multiplats and exclusives. :)

In terms of most of the years past the PC has the most AA and AAA titles along with the most AA and AAA exclusives. ;)

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I have both systems and i have to say that i really dont see any difference in the multiplatform games graphics or performance.I only buy multiplats on my 360 though because i prefer xboxlive and the 360 controller over ps3s online multiplayer and controller.Not saying that the ps3 doesnt do online good its just not as good as xboxlive.Home looks to be very interesting so i think sony could be on to something when its released.I like both systems and have them pretty much for different reasons.I have my 360 for xboxlive,controller,multiplats and exclusives like halo,gears of war,forza and several others.I have my ps3 for blueray and ps3 exclusives like resistance,ratchet and clank,uncharted and heavenly sword along with future releases like metal gear 4,killzone2,god of war and little big planet looks interesting.Also im hoping for a twisted metal sequal with online multiplayer.
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#15 CommanderTy
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[QUOTE="CommanderTy"]Well ive seen pros and cons on both system but if your talkin bout multi plat PC PWNS ALL!!!!!!Animal-Mother
well listen i admit the PC has some power behind but other than KB/M controls for fps and some 3rd person games its not that great, i mean try to imagine playing dmc 4 on a pc

well indeed it would be very annyoing and complex in ways for pc to maybe not complex but uncomfortable playing methods yes i could see your point thats where i said pros and cons
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[QUOTE="CommanderTy"]Well ive seen pros and cons on both system but if your talkin bout multi plat PC PWNS ALL!!!!!!Animal-Mother
well listen i admit the PC has some power behind but other than KB/M controls for fps and some 3rd person games its not that great, i mean try to imagine playing dmc 4 on a pc

hey is it still coming to pc? remeber it was announced as ps3 only then ps3 pc, then all 3. the pc verison still in the works lol? We don't hear much about pc verison of games...like ac pc verison and cod4 pc verison no one paid attention to those.
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#17 Animal-Mother
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yeah if you dont mind shelling out $50 dollars for live a year if you break it down its really 4.50 a month which isnt bad it is better than PSN, but hopefully with the relase of home ps3 can catch up
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#18 CommanderTy
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="CommanderTy"]Well ive seen pros and cons on both system but if your talkin bout multi plat PC PWNS ALL!!!!!!LibertySaint
well listen i admit the PC has some power behind but other than KB/M controls for fps and some 3rd person games its not that great, i mean try to imagine playing dmc 4 on a pc

hey is it still coming to pc? remeber it was announced as ps3 only then ps3 pc, then all 3. the pc verison still in the works lol? We don't hear much about pc verison of games...like ac pc verison and cod4 pc verison no one paid attention to those.

OK hold on i bougth cod4 on my pc way before i did my console but the others idk about good question
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Once I purchase my PS3, I'm determined to split my Multiplatform games down the line. I'll purchase multiplat Shooters, RTS, and Fighting games for the 360, while for the PS3, I'll purchase multiplat RPGs, Action, and Adventure games; therefore, both of my systems will enjoy equal love along with their exclusives. In cases where a game is a hybrid, that's where the problem will arise.
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#20 jimmzeh
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^Less than $4.50 :)

I can't believe I forgot about PSN vs XBL in my OP! Bah!

Is there really a massively noticable difference between the 2? I'm sure once Home rolls round the difference will be negligible, and saving $80 (Australian) a year doesn't hurt either.

Now what I'm really concerned with is the controller, I mean whats the deal with SixAxis? I'm really uneducated in this department :(

Is motion-sensing utilized in most games or just a few? And is it fun?

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#21 comptonst
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I dont get why people say that most 360 multiplats look better and play better. The only multiplat that i have noticed a difference with is Skate. I played the demo and noticed that in the community center there is that kicker with all the drawings on it, the detail doesnt show up very good from far away but as you get closer the details start to show, Big frickin deal, that doesnt change the experience one bit.
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In terms of actual game performance online they are pretty much identical since most servers are peer to peer. Some games have actual dedicated servers which is cool. This is both platforms.

Live has more content online, and has a more uniform appearance. You can access the console in game and receive messages and the like. PS3 is supposed to get this soon, but we've been waiting a while already. The PSN store is basically a website, not really integrated into the PS3 like Live. There are demos, trailers, ps1 games and other DLC available for free and purchase. Sony is supposed to start releasing some of the content from their music and movie divisions on the PSN some time this year.

Sixaxis seems to be used mostly for minigames nowadays, but its also used alot in racing games like motorstorm and also Warhawk. I think its a nice addition. Other than Lair and some other titles its mostly optional and can be turned off if you don't feel like it, but games like Heavenly Sword, High Velocity Bowling, and Folklore make VERY good use of it.

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#23 jimmzeh
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In terms of actual game performance online they are pretty much identical since most servers are peer to peer. Some games have actual dedicated servers which is cool. This is both platforms.

Live has more content online, and has a more uniform appearance. You can access the console in game and receive messages and the like. PS3 is supposed to get this soon, but we've been waiting a while already. The PSN store is basically a website, not really integrated into the PS3 like Live. There are demos, trailers, ps1 games and other DLC available for free and purchase. Sony is supposed to start releasing some of the content from their music and movie divisions on the PSN some time this year.

Sixaxis seems to be used mostly for minigames nowadays, but its also used alot in racing games like motorstorm and also Warhawk. I think its a nice addition. Other than Lair and some other titles its mostly optional and can be turned off if you don't feel like it, but games like Heavenly Sword, High Velocity Bowling, and Folklore make VERY good use of it.

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Very informative post, thank you!

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#24 -wii60-
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Blu ray =/= better graphics.
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Blu ray =/= better graphics.-wii60-
Blu-Gay has nothing to do with graphics.
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Blu ray =/= better graphics.-wii60-

Stop writing bs........blu ray doesn't affect graphics, just the length of a game. Also it effects audio, as some files don't have to be compressed.

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[QUOTE="-wii60-"]Blu ray =/= better graphics.bigevil_rashek

Stop writing bs........blu ray doesn't affect graphics, just the length of a game. Also it effects audio, as some files don't have to be compressed.



What part of =/= u don't understand?
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#28 jimmzeh
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[QUOTE="-wii60-"]Blu ray =/= better graphics.bigevil_rashek

Stop writing bs........blu ray doesn't affect graphics, just the length of a game. Also it effects audio, as some files don't have to be compressed.

Uh, I think by "=/=" he meant "does not equal", so your all in agreeance with each other.

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[QUOTE="bigevil_rashek"]

[QUOTE="-wii60-"]Blu ray =/= better graphics.jimmzeh

Stop writing bs........blu ray doesn't affect graphics, just the length of a game. Also it effects audio, as some files don't have to be compressed.

Uh, I think by "=/=" he meant "does not equal", so your all in agreeance with each other.

Yeah, that means "does not equal" there, heh. Blu-ray would only equal better graphics if textures or other graphical assets on a given title were forced to be very compressed in order to make them fit onto a single disc. So far this gen this doesn't seem to be the case with the exception of maybe Gears of War. I've heard that game was so short because they really ran out of room. As great as it looked, it probably could have been better if MS hadn't forced them to keep it to one disc. Maybe for 2 they'll finally let Epic loose.

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#30 jimmzeh
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Yeah, but can you explain to me how a 50GB disc could not store more information (pixels, textures, i dunno) and therefore equal a more fulfilled look than a 9GB disc? I'm not comparing framerate or anything, just the information stored on the discs.

Soz I don't know much about Graphics processing and the like.

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Yeah, but can you explain to me how a 50GB disc could not store more information (pixels, textures, i dunno) and therefore equal a more fulfilled look than a 9GB disc? I'm not comparing framerate or anything, just the information stored on the discs.

Soz I don't know much about Graphics processing and the like.

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what most developers so far have used the extra storage space for is mostly audio and cutscenes. Uncompressed audio>compressed audio. I had given up on the ps3, I figured I would use it as a bluray player, until yesterday when I played uncharted. It is a graphical masterpiece.
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#32 jimmzeh
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[QUOTE="jimmzeh"]

Yeah, but can you explain to me how a 50GB disc could not store more information (pixels, textures, i dunno) and therefore equal a more fulfilled look than a 9GB disc? I'm not comparing framerate or anything, just the information stored on the discs.

Soz I don't know much about Graphics processing and the like.

carsales

what most developers so far have used the extra storage space for is mostly audio and cutscenes. Uncompressed audio>compressed audio. I had given up on the ps3, I figured I would use it as a bluray player, until yesterday when I played uncharted. It is a graphical masterpiece.

So does Uncharted's graphical brilliance have anything to do with the Blu-Ray media or is it all about the GPU/CPU? I find it hard to believe that devs have only utilized an extra 40GB+ worth of space on enchanced audio and cutscenes... these should only account for like 1-2GB right? Am I missing something here?

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#33 Animal-Mother
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i think its all the gpu cpu, blu ray is a type of high defination, so i believe blu ray has more to do wiht making the game high def then how it looks, correct me if im wrong anyone
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#34 MegaTyX
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Well,

PS3 sports slightly better graphics (if it is dev'ed for PS3 then ported) but has little to no online user interface. Maybe HOME can change that. Longer load times seem to plague the PS3 in most cases.

Xbox360 sports better load times and a superior online experience (even though it was down recently). You get used to how the xbox controller fits in your hand. It feels as though most things on xbox are crafted for an older audience such as myself.

Either way you get to play some great games so dont miss out because you decided that so and so company decided to make money and port games that were exclusives to other consoles. (yes that was to freaking sony fanboys.)