PS3: -Had Blu-Ray from the start -Allows any HDD -Lots of room for improvement via downloadable updates -Got all the Hardware features they wanted
360: -Go into next gen format war? No, yes, no yes, HD-DVD add-on comes out... -No Upgradable HDD, hmm...whatever our fans love spending $$$. -HDMI? Who cares? Ohh crap we might need it later for movies, crap what to do what to do, hey lets just release a new SKU with these new features, our fans will support us.
PS3: -Had Blu-Ray from the start -Allows any HDD -Lots of room for improvement via downloadable updates -Got all the Hardware features they wanted
360: -Go into next gen format war? No, yes, no yes, HD-DVD add-on comes out... -No Upgradable HDD, hmm...whatever our fans love spending $$$. -HDMI? Who cares? Ohh crap we might need it later for movies, crap what to do what to do, hey lets just release a new SKU with these new features, our fans will support us.
360 has been horribly planned from the beginning. AvatarAko
PS3: -Had Blu-Ray from the start -Allows any HDD -Lots of room for improvement via downloadable updates -Got all the Hardware features they wanted
360: -Go into next gen format war? No, yes, no yes, HD-DVD add-on comes out... -No Upgradable HDD, hmm...whatever our fans love spending $$$. -HDMI? Who cares? Ohh crap we might need it later for movies, crap what to do what to do, hey lets just release a new SKU with these new features, our fans will support us.
360 has been horribly planned from the beginning. AvatarAko
Let's assume everything you said is true and that the 360 was terribly planned and the PS3 was well planned....
Doesn't that just make it even more pathetic that the PS3 is selling more poorly than everyone expected it too?
Actually the 360 was well planned. just HDMI might have been good at the start, thats a fault on M$ side. But not incorporating HD DVD into the system itself was great because no one would have bought a 600 dollar system. (proof, PS3)
[QUOTE="AvatarAko"]PS3: -Had Blu-Ray from the start -Allows any HDD -Lots of room for improvement via downloadable updates -Got all the Hardware features they wanted
360: -Go into next gen format war? No, yes, no yes, HD-DVD add-on comes out... -No Upgradable HDD, hmm...whatever our fans love spending $$$. -HDMI? Who cares? Ohh crap we might need it later for movies, crap what to do what to do, hey lets just release a new SKU with these new features, our fans will support us.
360 has been horribly planned from the beginning. AvIdGaMeR444
Let's assume everything you said is true and that the 360 was terribly planned and the PS3 was well planned....
Doesn't that just make it even more pathetic that the PS3 is selling more poorly than everyone expected it too?
Hm....1.5+m sold in 3 months....and not out in Europe and Australia ohh and a $500+ Pricetag....hmm.... I thought they would be lucky to get 1 million before they launch in europe.
Actually the 360 was well planned. just HDMI might have been good at the start, thats a fault on M$ side. But not incorporating HD DVD into the system itself was great because no one would have bought a 600 dollar system. (proof, PS3)beinss
And yet, despite being 'so well planned', PS3 had terrible BC compatibility and quality issues at launch, it's online service is basically a pale shadow of XBL and it didn't managed to combine rumble and motion sensing like the Wii did.
[QUOTE="Spartan070"]I don't have an HDTV:| Neither does most of the world.:| All your points = debunked. next. Shame...playing your 360 must really suck....not being able to read the letters on screen and all
PS3: -Had Blu-Ray from the start -Allows any HDD -Lots of room for improvement via downloadable updates -Got all the Hardware features they wanted
360: -Go into next gen format war? No, yes, no yes, HD-DVD add-on comes out... -No Upgradable HDD, hmm...whatever our fans love spending $$$. -HDMI? Who cares? Ohh crap we might need it later for movies, crap what to do what to do, hey lets just release a new SKU with these new features, our fans will support us.
360 has been horribly planned from the beginning. AvatarAko
We have a new Big Boss Cow thread starter. Sorry but I own all three systems and the PS3 is collecting dust. Stop making excuses for the PS3, the 360 is a major success and is going to take a huge chunk out of the market share that Sony had built up. The Trend is Microsoft and not Sony.
The 360 was planned as a gaming Console. It's that simple, that doesn't make it badly planned. They aren't forcing a format onto people therefore raising the price of the console. HD-DVD and Bluray are movie formats that are used for watching movies, it's not as if either of them is going to be anywhere near overtaking DVD's anytime soon. Therefore, they weren't required.
Actually the 360 was well planned. just HDMI might have been good at the start, thats a fault on M$ side. But not incorporating HD DVD into the system itself was great because no one would have bought a 600 dollar system. (proof, PS3)beinss
Ya that would be proof but it's not! People are buying Playstation 3's ;).
And yet, despite being 'so well planned', PS3 had terrible BC compatibility and quality issues at launch, it's online service is basically a pale shadow of XBL and it didn't managed to combine rumble and motion sensing like the Wii did.Danm_999
At Launch...and BC has been fixed in less then 2 months, with 99% of the games working....how's 360's BC? Can you play 50% of the games? PSN is equivalent to XBL for the most part...and its free. Sure XBL is a bit better, but at least with PSN you don't have to pay.
[QUOTE="beinss"]Actually the 360 was well planned. just HDMI might have been good at the start, thats a fault on M$ side. But not incorporating HD DVD into the system itself was great because no one would have bought a 600 dollar system. (proof, PS3)AvatarAko
1.5+million people = nobody ? 1.5 million LOL, wow so why is the wii just killing the PS3 in sales???
The 360 was planned as a gaming Console. It's that simple, that doesn't make it badly planned. They aren't forcing a format onto people therefore raising the price of the console. HD-DVD and Bluray are movie formats that are used for watching movies, it's not as if either of them is going to be anywhere near overtaking DVD's anytime soon. Therefore, they weren't required. Puckhog04
So then why create a new sku with HDMI? and release an HD-DVD add-on...buh buh buh teh choices :cry: LMAO
[QUOTE="Danm_999"]And yet, despite being 'so well planned', PS3 had terrible BC compatibility and quality issues at launch, it's online service is basically a pale shadow of XBL and it didn't managed to combine rumble and motion sensing like the Wii did.AvatarAko
At Launch...and BC has been fixed in less then 2 months, with 99% of the games working....how's 360's BC? Can you play 50% of the games? PSN is equivalent to XBL for the most part...and its free. Sure XBL is a bit better, but at least with PSN you don't have to pay. a bit better? LOL come on now your cow tail is showing. It took me 2 hours to download GTHD last week. Xbox live has downloads out all the time, while the PSN is barebones. Keep dreaming cow.
[QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="beinss"]Actually the 360 was well planned. just HDMI might have been good at the start, thats a fault on M$ side. But not incorporating HD DVD into the system itself was great because no one would have bought a 600 dollar system. (proof, PS3)SystemWarsMan
1.5+million people = nobody ? 1.5 million LOL, wow so why is the wii just killing the PS3 in sales??? Because its 2X cheaper...and its novelty is starting to wear off....
[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]The 360 was planned as a gaming Console. It's that simple, that doesn't make it badly planned. They aren't forcing a format onto people therefore raising the price of the console. HD-DVD and Bluray are movie formats that are used for watching movies, it's not as if either of them is going to be anywhere near overtaking DVD's anytime soon. Therefore, they weren't required. AvatarAko
So then why create a new sku with HDMI? and release an HD-DVD add-on...buh buh buh teh choices :cry: LMAO Its called IPTV, the TV service that Sony wishes they would have signed on with. OWNAGE
[QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="Danm_999"]And yet, despite being 'so well planned', PS3 had terrible BC compatibility and quality issues at launch, it's online service is basically a pale shadow of XBL and it didn't managed to combine rumble and motion sensing like the Wii did.SystemWarsMan
At Launch...and BC has been fixed in less then 2 months, with 99% of the games working....how's 360's BC? Can you play 50% of the games? PSN is equivalent to XBL for the most part...and its free. Sure XBL is a bit better, but at least with PSN you don't have to pay. a bit better? LOL come on now your cow tail is showing. It took me 2 hours to download GTHD last week. Xbox live has downloads out all the time, while the PSN is barebones. Keep dreaming cow. LMAO
PS3: -Had Blu-Ray from the start -Allows any HDD -Lots of room for improvement via downloadable updates -Got all the Hardware features they wanted
360: -Go into next gen format war? No, yes, no yes, HD-DVD add-on comes out...Um, when releasing a console with a new format you have to consider a few things, you are putting unproven tech in your console. MS needed the time lead, and HD-DVD would have slowed them down, and hiked up the 360 price , and they would have to massly manufacture it in a small amount of time. So actually it would have been foolish of MS to wait for HD-DVD. -No Upgradable HDD, hmm...whatever our fans love spending $$$.- Upgradable HDD? Um, you can upgrade HDD's just buy a bigger one and transfer your saves, and you can re-DL all you content (if you paid, you won't have to pay again). -HDMI? Who cares? Ohh crap we might need it later for movies, crap what to do what to do, hey lets just release a new SKU with these new features, our fans will support us.- First of all, this Zephyr is not confirmed. And when the 360 came out HDMI was new and expensive to incorporate in a console. Do lemmings actually need HDMI? SInce not all games will be native 1080p, actually a few games will be. And it relativley useless, unless if they tag it along with an HD-DVD drive.
360 has been horribly planned from the beginning. AvatarAko
So actually the 360 was a very smartly planned console. But it was rushed media wise so that they can get a leg-up in games which looking at the 360, is what what matter more.
[QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]I don't have an HDTV:| Neither does most of the world.:| All your points = debunked. next. Shame...playing your 360 must really suck....not being able to read the letters on screen and all Actually, I can see fine on my TV, I guess many of you need glasses. Anyway, I usually play on a 21" CRT moniter with VGA so whatever.
[QUOTE="Danm_999"]And yet, despite being 'so well planned', PS3 had terrible BC compatibility and quality issues at launch, it's online service is basically a pale shadow of XBL and it didn't managed to combine rumble and motion sensing like the Wii did.AvatarAko
At Launch...and BC has been fixed in less then 2 months, with 99% of the games working....how's 360's BC? Can you play 50% of the games? PSN is equivalent to XBL for the most part...and its free. Sure XBL is a bit better, but at least with PSN you don't have to pay.
1. We don't need the previous generation games. :wink:
2. No, PSN is not equivalent to XBL. I'm sorry you can't afford $50 a year for XBL, but that's the way it is. It's the better online service by a mile.
[QUOTE="SystemWarsMan"][QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="beinss"]Actually the 360 was well planned. just HDMI might have been good at the start, thats a fault on M$ side. But not incorporating HD DVD into the system itself was great because no one would have bought a 600 dollar system. (proof, PS3)AvatarAko
1.5+million people = nobody ? 1.5 million LOL, wow so why is the wii just killing the PS3 in sales??? Because its 2X cheaper...and its novelty is starting to wear off.... Wishful cow thinking, I have the wii and the PS3, wii is much more fun than the PS3. sorry cow
[QUOTE="Danm_999"]And yet, despite being 'so well planned', PS3 had terrible BC compatibility and quality issues at launch, it's online service is basically a pale shadow of XBL and it didn't managed to combine rumble and motion sensing like the Wii did.AvatarAko
At Launch...and BC has been fixed in less then 2 months, with 99% of the games working....how's 360's BC? Can you play 50% of the games? PSN is equivalent to XBL for the most part...and its free. Sure XBL is a bit better, but at least with PSN you don't have to pay. 2 weeks is too long considering Sony promised full BC support at launch. What the heck were they doing that extra year they had? They couldn't even get BC compatibility right. That's piss poor planning. And the systems are in no way equal. PS3 only just had a firmware update to allow multi-tasking! There's no integrated method of dealing with online, just ad hoc servers for each game. Sony really dropped the ball on that one, and did not plan it out at all. This system had basically a whole year once 360 had launched to be perfect. What did Sony spend that time doing?
[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]The 360 was planned as a gaming Console. It's that simple, that doesn't make it badly planned. They aren't forcing a format onto people therefore raising the price of the console. HD-DVD and Bluray are movie formats that are used for watching movies, it's not as if either of them is going to be anywhere near overtaking DVD's anytime soon. Therefore, they weren't required. AvatarAko
So then why create a new sku with HDMI? and release an HD-DVD add-on...buh buh buh teh choices :cry: LMAO An SKU MS has not confirmed.
[QUOTE="SystemWarsMan"][QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="Danm_999"]And yet, despite being 'so well planned', PS3 had terrible BC compatibility and quality issues at launch, it's online service is basically a pale shadow of XBL and it didn't managed to combine rumble and motion sensing like the Wii did.AvatarAko
At Launch...and BC has been fixed in less then 2 months, with 99% of the games working....how's 360's BC? Can you play 50% of the games? PSN is equivalent to XBL for the most part...and its free. Sure XBL is a bit better, but at least with PSN you don't have to pay. a bit better? LOL come on now your cow tail is showing. It took me 2 hours to download GTHD last week. Xbox live has downloads out all the time, while the PSN is barebones. Keep dreaming cow. LMAO LMAO even harder at you thinking that the PSN is just a tad less than Live. OWNAGE
And yet, despite being 'so well planned', PS3 had terrible BC compatibility and quality issues at launch, it's online service is basically a pale shadow of XBL and it didn't managed to combine rumble and motion sensing like the Wii did.Danm_999
Easily fixed with firmware update, and online service is mainly only missing the headsets for online chat. Rumble is not necessary and just waste battery power and adds wait to the controller.
[QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]The 360 was planned as a gaming Console. It's that simple, that doesn't make it badly planned. They aren't forcing a format onto people therefore raising the price of the console. HD-DVD and Bluray are movie formats that are used for watching movies, it's not as if either of them is going to be anywhere near overtaking DVD's anytime soon. Therefore, they weren't required. SystemWarsMan
So then why create a new sku with HDMI? and release an HD-DVD add-on...buh buh buh teh choices :cry: LMAO Its called IPTV, the TV service that Sony wishes they would have signed on with. OWNAGE I bet your going to get IPTV too...and pay another $40/month (IPTV isin't free buddy) And then pay money for XBL to see what you can PAY for to download (video marketplace) MS fans really liked to be nickeled and dimed
Actually the 360 was well planned. just HDMI might have been good at the start, thats a fault on M$ side. But not incorporating HD DVD into the system itself was great because no one would have bought a 600 dollar system. (proof, PS3)beinss
The hdmi isue truly affects how many people? The millions of kids and teens need hdmi on their standard definition set?
The millions of consumers who don't have hd tv sets? HDMI isn't for the mainstream user and is only for a select segment of the user base. So many of you seem to forget the rest of the current owners and future as well. Maybe in 3-5 years when hd sets will make up 40% of total households but by then there might be something new anyways.
The 360 was planned as a gaming Console. It's that simple, that doesn't make it badly planned. They aren't forcing a format onto people therefore raising the price of the console. HD-DVD and Bluray are movie formats that are used for watching movies, it's not as if either of them is going to be anywhere near overtaking DVD's anytime soon. Therefore, they weren't required. Puckhog04
Its not planned to for only a gamin console..Microsoft have the same vision as sony..well copying sony that is.callin their console a home entertainment system.blue ray is winning right now..it might not over take dvds soon but eventually blue ray will come on top in the future.and who ever said microsoft console is well planned does the red ring of death sound familiar..lol..they rushed their system and now they tryin to play catch up with sony hardware..
[QUOTE="SystemWarsMan"][QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]The 360 was planned as a gaming Console. It's that simple, that doesn't make it badly planned. They aren't forcing a format onto people therefore raising the price of the console. HD-DVD and Bluray are movie formats that are used for watching movies, it's not as if either of them is going to be anywhere near overtaking DVD's anytime soon. Therefore, they weren't required. AvatarAko
So then why create a new sku with HDMI? and release an HD-DVD add-on...buh buh buh teh choices :cry: LMAO Its called IPTV, the TV service that Sony wishes they would have signed on with. OWNAGE I bet your going to get IPTV too...and pay another $40/month (IPTV isin't free buddy) And then pay money for XBL to see what you can PAY for to download (video marketplace) MS fans really liked to be nickeled and dimed Its all about choices, and this coming from a cow that pays 600 dollars for a system with NO games. LOL
[QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="Danm_999"]And yet, despite being 'so well planned', PS3 had terrible BC compatibility and quality issues at launch, it's online service is basically a pale shadow of XBL and it didn't managed to combine rumble and motion sensing like the Wii did.Puckhog04
At Launch...and BC has been fixed in less then 2 months, with 99% of the games working....how's 360's BC? Can you play 50% of the games? PSN is equivalent to XBL for the most part...and its free. Sure XBL is a bit better, but at least with PSN you don't have to pay.
1. We don't need the previous generation games. :wink:
2. No, PSN is not equivalent to XBL. I'm sorry you can't afford $50 a year for XBL, but that's the way it is. It's the better online service by a mile.
LMAO again. XBL you pay for to see what else you can PAY for.
[QUOTE="Danm_999"]And yet, despite being 'so well planned', PS3 had terrible BC compatibility and quality issues at launch, it's online service is basically a pale shadow of XBL and it didn't managed to combine rumble and motion sensing like the Wii did.InfamousC
Easily fixed with firmware update, and online service is mainly only missing the headsets for online chat. Rumble is not necessary and just waste battery power and adds wait to the controller.
explain to me why it takes 2 hours to download GTHD when the demo has been out for 2 months? I have a 30mb Fios connection so it isnt my connection. Its more like they dont have the servers like MS does.
[QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="Danm_999"]And yet, despite being 'so well planned', PS3 had terrible BC compatibility and quality issues at launch, it's online service is basically a pale shadow of XBL and it didn't managed to combine rumble and motion sensing like the Wii did.AvatarAko
At Launch...and BC has been fixed in less then 2 months, with 99% of the games working....how's 360's BC? Can you play 50% of the games? PSN is equivalent to XBL for the most part...and its free. Sure XBL is a bit better, but at least with PSN you don't have to pay.
1. We don't need the previous generation games. :wink:
2. No, PSN is not equivalent to XBL. I'm sorry you can't afford $50 a year for XBL, but that's the way it is. It's the better online service by a mile.
LMAO again. XBL you pay for to see what else you can PAY for. LOL at how you keep defending the PS3 so blindly. Try getting a 360. Your fanboyism shows.
[QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="beinss"]Actually the 360 was well planned. just HDMI might have been good at the start, thats a fault on M$ side. But not incorporating HD DVD into the system itself was great because no one would have bought a 600 dollar system. (proof, PS3)SystemWarsMan
1.5+million people = nobody ? 1.5 million LOL, wow so why is the wii just killing the PS3 in sales???
[QUOTE="Danm_999"]And yet, despite being 'so well planned', PS3 had terrible BC compatibility and quality issues at launch, it's online service is basically a pale shadow of XBL and it didn't managed to combine rumble and motion sensing like the Wii did.InfamousC
Easily fixed with firmware update, and online service is mainly only missing the headsets for online chat. Rumble is not necessary and just waste battery power and adds wait to the controller.
We're talking about planning here, not merit. Why were these blatantly obvious flaws allowed to move forward to launch? Doesn't that suggest a failure in quality control and planning?
[QUOTE="SystemWarsMan"][QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]The 360 was planned as a gaming Console. It's that simple, that doesn't make it badly planned. They aren't forcing a format onto people therefore raising the price of the console. HD-DVD and Bluray are movie formats that are used for watching movies, it's not as if either of them is going to be anywhere near overtaking DVD's anytime soon. Therefore, they weren't required. AvatarAko
So then why create a new sku with HDMI? and release an HD-DVD add-on...buh buh buh teh choices :cry: LMAO Its called IPTV, the TV service that Sony wishes they would have signed on with. OWNAGE I bet your going to get IPTV too...and pay another $40/month (IPTV isin't free buddy) And then pay money for XBL to see what you can PAY for to download (video marketplace) MS fans really liked to be nickeled and dimed Another cow jumping to conclusions. Since when could you predict the price of IPTV? Nickel and dimed? MS doesn't have a gun to my head forcing me to get IPTV. How much will it cost? No one knows, and you better watch out for PSN :lol: I can be a fanboy like you and say dev's will charge you for playing games on their servers, but I am smarter than you, and I will wait and see b4 I make a conclusion.
[QUOTE="Danm_999"]And yet, despite being 'so well planned', PS3 had terrible BC compatibility and quality issues at launch, it's online service is basically a pale shadow of XBL and it didn't managed to combine rumble and motion sensing like the Wii did.SystemWarsMan
Easily fixed with firmware update, and online service is mainly only missing the headsets for online chat. Rumble is not necessary and just waste battery power and adds wait to the controller.
explain to me why it takes 2 hours to download GTHD when the demo has been out for 2 months? I have a 30mb Fios connection so it isnt my connection. Its more like they dont have the servers like MS does. Seems like you have everything lol. I doubt you even have a 360. Buh buh buh I have a PS3, 360, Wii, A multi-billion dollar PC, etc....
[QUOTE="SystemWarsMan"][QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="beinss"]Actually the 360 was well planned. just HDMI might have been good at the start, thats a fault on M$ side. But not incorporating HD DVD into the system itself was great because no one would have bought a 600 dollar system. (proof, PS3)InfamousC
1.5+million people = nobody ? 1.5 million LOL, wow so why is the wii just killing the PS3 in sales???
Why is it killing 360 in sales?
No neck and neck, I guess you dont know that the PS3 isnt selling like they expected. Due to the 360 being better and the wii being more fun. Enjoy that blue ray player.
[QUOTE="Danm_999"]And yet, despite being 'so well planned', PS3 had terrible BC compatibility and quality issues at launch, it's online service is basically a pale shadow of XBL and it didn't managed to combine rumble and motion sensing like the Wii did.AvatarAko
Easily fixed with firmware update, and online service is mainly only missing the headsets for online chat. Rumble is not necessary and just waste battery power and adds wait to the controller.
explain to me why it takes 2 hours to download GTHD when the demo has been out for 2 months? I have a 30mb Fios connection so it isnt my connection. Its more like they dont have the servers like MS does. Seems like you have everything lol. I doubt you even have a 360. Buh buh buh I have a PS3, 360, Wii, A multi-billion dollar PC, etc.... Wow, lay off the damage control.
[QUOTE="Danm_999"]And yet, despite being 'so well planned', PS3 had terrible BC compatibility and quality issues at launch, it's online service is basically a pale shadow of XBL and it didn't managed to combine rumble and motion sensing like the Wii did.AvatarAko
Easily fixed with firmware update, and online service is mainly only missing the headsets for online chat. Rumble is not necessary and just waste battery power and adds wait to the controller.
explain to me why it takes 2 hours to download GTHD when the demo has been out for 2 months? I have a 30mb Fios connection so it isnt my connection. Its more like they dont have the servers like MS does. Seems like you have everything lol. I doubt you even have a 360. Buh buh buh I have a PS3, 360, Wii, A multi-billion dollar PC, etc.... hey kiddo, try being original, teh teh stuff was started by lemmings, NOT cows, so stop trying so hard.
[QUOTE="SystemWarsMan"][QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="beinss"]Actually the 360 was well planned. just HDMI might have been good at the start, thats a fault on M$ side. But not incorporating HD DVD into the system itself was great because no one would have bought a 600 dollar system. (proof, PS3)AvatarAko
1.5+million people = nobody ? 1.5 million LOL, wow so why is the wii just killing the PS3 in sales??? Because its 2X cheaper...and its novelty is starting to wear off.... Yeah, just like the DS's novelty wore off and the PSP won the handheld war... :roll:
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