PS3 = Well Planned Console, 360 = Badly planned console

[QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="SystemWarsMan"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]And yet, despite being 'so well planned', PS3 had terrible BC compatibility and quality issues at launch, it's online service is basically a pale shadow of XBL and it didn't managed to combine rumble and motion sensing like the Wii did.Danm_999

Easily fixed with firmware update, and online service is mainly only missing the headsets for online chat. Rumble is not necessary and just waste battery power and adds wait to the controller.

[QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="SystemWarsMan"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]And yet, despite being 'so well planned', PS3 had terrible BC compatibility and quality issues at launch, it's online service is basically a pale shadow of XBL and it didn't managed to combine rumble and motion sensing like the Wii did.Danm_999

Easily fixed with firmware update, and online service is mainly only missing the headsets for online chat. Rumble is not necessary and just waste battery power and adds wait to the controller.

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]The 360 was planned as a gaming Console. It's that simple, that doesn't make it badly planned. They aren't forcing a format onto people therefore raising the price of the console. HD-DVD and Bluray are movie formats that are used for watching movies, it's not as if either of them is going to be anywhere near overtaking DVD's anytime soon. Therefore, they weren't required. beyondgamez

It's like talking to a wall with you people. Please, get a clue.

1. PS3 is a trojan horse for Bluray right now, if you want to debate that then you are in denial.

2. Bluray is winning right now, wonderful. Yet, neither HD-DVD or bluray will overtake DVD's within the next 5 years. By then another Console will be readily available from each company.

3. HD-DVD and Bluray is used for movies, nothing more. Simply more storage for games...and until you have every game on the 360 being on more than one disc, this isn't an issue. It's not needed seeing as Blue Dragon is the only game on multiple discs out of 150+ games.

4. I suppose when you have nothing else to bash with a Console you bash the failure rate. Sure, there is a 5% defective rate. I'm assuming that you're weak in the math subject judging from your grammar so i'm going to enlighten you. 10 million consoles sold worldwide/.05 (Yes, this is 5%, sorry if i confused you) = 500,000 Consoles that are potentially going to get the ring of death. Seeing as MS is replacing them for free i don't see a reason for people to be complaining (other than it being inconvenient).

5. Unless you went around whining about how PS2's were busting all around then i suggest you stop talking about the failure rate of consoles, seeing as the dreaded PS2's Disc Read Error was much more prominent then any problem with the Xbox 360.

6. Yes, i'm going to buy a PS3 when the price goes down and/or MGS4 comes out. Yes, you are a fanboy. Does this mean you have to do nothing but post the same crap over and over again all the while getting debunked? No. So stop.

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="SystemWarsMan"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]And yet, despite being 'so well planned', PS3 had terrible BC compatibility and quality issues at launch, it's online service is basically a pale shadow of XBL and it didn't managed to combine rumble and motion sensing like the Wii did.AvatarAko

Easily fixed with firmware update, and online service is mainly only missing the headsets for online chat. Rumble is not necessary and just waste battery power and adds wait to the controller.

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]And yet, despite being 'so well planned', PS3 had terrible BC compatibility and quality issues at launch, it's online service is basically a pale shadow of XBL and it didn't managed to combine rumble and motion sensing like the Wii did.AvatarAko

You've gotta point with this one...I do wonder why Microsoft with all its unlimited wealth can't seem to fix the BC issues :? 

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="SystemWarsMan"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]And yet, despite being 'so well planned', PS3 had terrible BC compatibility and quality issues at launch, it's online service is basically a pale shadow of XBL and it didn't managed to combine rumble and motion sensing like the Wii did.AvatarAko

Easily fixed with firmware update, and online service is mainly only missing the headsets for online chat. Rumble is not necessary and just waste battery power and adds wait to the controller.

  My vote for obvious joke thread of the year...DXGreat1_HGL

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

[QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="Danm_999"]And yet, despite being 'so well planned', PS3 had terrible BC compatibility and quality issues at launch, it's online service is basically a pale shadow of XBL and it didn't managed to combine rumble and motion sensing like the Wii did.AvatarAko

1. We don't need the previous generation games. :wink:

2. No, PSN is not equivalent to XBL. I'm sorry you can't afford $50 a year for XBL, but that's the way it is. It's the better online service by a mile.

XBL > PSN.

Cry me a river, either that or stop talking. You're only looking worse and worse.

I buy my game consoles to play games, which is why I have a 360 and a Wii, the PS3 doesn't have enough good games to make me buy one, RFOM is the only good game on the PS3 right now, all you got from purchasing a PS3 right now is a cheap BD Player.Nagidar

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="SystemWarsMan"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]And yet, despite being 'so well planned', PS3 had terrible BC compatibility and quality issues at launch, it's online service is basically a pale shadow of XBL and it didn't managed to combine rumble and motion sensing like the Wii did.AvatarAko

Easily fixed with firmware update, and online service is mainly only missing the headsets for online chat. Rumble is not necessary and just waste battery power and adds wait to the controller.

 Great, if the PS3 is so great why are you in here posting? You must be playing all of those wonderful PS3 AAA exclusives...

Perhaps Sony could have PLANNED to have a half decent launch library ready?Danm_999

[QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="SystemWarsMan"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]And yet, despite being 'so well planned', PS3 had terrible BC compatibility and quality issues at launch, it's online service is basically a pale shadow of XBL and it didn't managed to combine rumble and motion sensing like the Wii did.Danm_999

Easily fixed with firmware update, and online service is mainly only missing the headsets for online chat. Rumble is not necessary and just waste battery power and adds wait to the controller.

Hasn't the PS3 gotten 6 or so Firmwire updates already? That's ridiculous. The Xbox 360 has only had about 3 Console updates...and it wasn't for problems. It was to add certain features to XBL. TC got shutdown.

[QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="SystemWarsMan"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]And yet, despite being 'so well planned', PS3 had terrible BC compatibility and quality issues at launch, it's online service is basically a pale shadow of XBL and it didn't managed to combine rumble and motion sensing like the Wii did.SystemWarsMan

Easily fixed with firmware update, and online service is mainly only missing the headsets for online chat. Rumble is not necessary and just waste battery power and adds wait to the controller.

Agreed - the 360 is like the PS2, awesome games but crap system.AHUGECAT

How so? The PS2 was unreliable in the beginning sure, but so are most consoles these days, its just a known fact. I have had a PS2 for almost a year now and have yet to encounter any flaws in the hardware (mines version 7 btw so its a couple of years old and was refurbished). The PS2 may be a poorly built console early on but there is no doubt that it was a great system, probably one of the best since the SNES in terms of overall consistency of good games.

The 360 lineup is far few inbetween for a wide variety of genres being covered in good consistency, most of the games are shooters of some sort. I mean yea shooters are great but compared to the PS2's lineup, Sony hands down will always have a better variety of genres covered, much like Nintendo has done plus their introduction of games for non gamers or new players.

[QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="SystemWarsMan"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]And yet, despite being 'so well planned', PS3 had terrible BC compatibility and quality issues at launch, it's online service is basically a pale shadow of XBL and it didn't managed to combine rumble and motion sensing like the Wii did.DXGreat1_HGL

Easily fixed with firmware update, and online service is mainly only missing the headsets for online chat. Rumble is not necessary and just waste battery power and adds wait to the controller.

Great, if the PS3 is so great why are you in here posting? You must be playing all of those wonderful PS3 AAA exclusives...

[QUOTE="SystemWarsMan"][QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="SystemWarsMan"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]And yet, despite being 'so well planned', PS3 had terrible BC compatibility and quality issues at launch, it's online service is basically a pale shadow of XBL and it didn't managed to combine rumble and motion sensing like the Wii did.AvatarAko

Easily fixed with firmware update, and online service is mainly only missing the headsets for online chat. Rumble is not necessary and just waste battery power and adds wait to the controller.

[QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="SystemWarsMan"][QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="beinss"]Actually the 360 was well planned. just HDMI might have been good at the start, thats a fault on M$ side. But not incorporating HD DVD into the system itself was great because no one would have bought a 600 dollar system. (proof, PS3)SystemWarsMan

Why is it killing 360 in sales?

Wait until PS3 is released in Europe next month. Wasn't it M$ that just droppped 360s sales forecast for this year not Sony??? And I will enjoy the Blu Ray player with my HD games with no load times..

[QUOTE="DSgamer64"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Agreed - the 360 is like the PS2, awesome games but crap system.eastside49er

The 360 lineup is far few inbetween for a wide variety of genres being covered in good consistency, most of the games are shooters of some sort. I mean yea shooters are great but compared to the PS2's lineup, Sony hands down will always have a better variety of genres covered, much like Nintendo has done plus their introduction of games for non gamers or new players.

STFU!

[QUOTE="beyondgamez"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]The 360 was planned as a gaming Console. It's that simple, that doesn't make it badly planned. They aren't forcing a format onto people therefore raising the price of the console. HD-DVD and Bluray are movie formats that are used for watching movies, it's not as if either of them is going to be anywhere near overtaking DVD's anytime soon. Therefore, they weren't required. Puckhog04

It's like talking to a wall with you people. Please, get a clue.

1. PS3 is a trojan horse for Bluray right now, if you want to debate that then you are in denial.

2. Bluray is winning right now, wonderful. Yet, neither HD-DVD or bluray will overtake DVD's within the next 5 years. By then another Console will be readily available from each company.

3. HD-DVD and Bluray is used for movies, nothing more. Simply more storage for games...and until you have every game on the 360 being on more than one disc, this isn't an issue. It's not needed seeing as Blue Dragon is the only game on multiple discs out of 150+ games.

4. I suppose when you have nothing else to bash with a Console you bash the failure rate. Sure, there is a 5% defective rate. I'm assuming that you're weak in the math subject judging from your grammar so i'm going to enlighten you. 10 million consoles sold worldwide/.05 (Yes, this is 5%, sorry if i confused you) = 500,000 Consoles that are potentially going to get the ring of death.

5. Unless you went around whining about how PS2's were busting all around then i suggest you stop talking about the failure rate of consoles, seeing as the dreaded PS2's Disc Read Error was much more prominent then any problem with the Xbox 360.

6. Yes, i'm going to buy a PS3 when the price goes down and/or MGS4 comes out. Yes, you are a fanboy. Does this mean you have to do nothing but post the same crap over and over again all the while getting debunked? No. So stop.

Blu Ray isn't used for games??? That explains why Ninja Gaiden sigma will have no load times..

Here you go cows, a nice thread to view on the awesome planning of Sony: http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25247543

Yes the PS3 is the BEST planned system out...

[QUOTE="AvatarAko"]PS3:
-Had Blu-Ray from the start
-Allows any HDD
-Lots of room for improvement via downloadable updates
-Got all the Hardware features they wanted

360:
-Go into next gen format war? No, yes, no yes, HD-DVD add-on comes out...
-No Upgradable HDD, hmm...whatever our fans love spending $$$.
-HDMI? Who cares? Ohh crap we might need it later for movies, crap what to do what to do, hey lets just release a new SKU with these new features, our fans will support us.

360 has been horribly planned from the beginning.
SystemWarsMan

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

[QUOTE="beyondgamez"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]The 360 was planned as a gaming Console. It's that simple, that doesn't make it badly planned. They aren't forcing a format onto people therefore raising the price of the console. HD-DVD and Bluray are movie formats that are used for watching movies, it's not as if either of them is going to be anywhere near overtaking DVD's anytime soon. Therefore, they weren't required. InfamousC

It's like talking to a wall with you people. Please, get a clue.

1. PS3 is a trojan horse for Bluray right now, if you want to debate that then you are in denial.

2. Bluray is winning right now, wonderful. Yet, neither HD-DVD or bluray will overtake DVD's within the next 5 years. By then another Console will be readily available from each company.

3. HD-DVD and Bluray is used for movies, nothing more. Simply more storage for games...and until you have every game on the 360 being on more than one disc, this isn't an issue. It's not needed seeing as Blue Dragon is the only game on multiple discs out of 150+ games.

4. I suppose when you have nothing else to bash with a Console you bash the failure rate. Sure, there is a 5% defective rate. I'm assuming that you're weak in the math subject judging from your grammar so i'm going to enlighten you. 10 million consoles sold worldwide/.05 (Yes, this is 5%, sorry if i confused you) = 500,000 Consoles that are potentially going to get the ring of death.

5. Unless you went around whining about how PS2's were busting all around then i suggest you stop talking about the failure rate of consoles, seeing as the dreaded PS2's Disc Read Error was much more prominent then any problem with the Xbox 360.

6. Yes, i'm going to buy a PS3 when the price goes down and/or MGS4 comes out. Yes, you are a fanboy. Does this mean you have to do nothing but post the same crap over and over again all the while getting debunked? No. So stop.

Blu Ray isn't used for games??? That explains why Ninja Gaiden sigma will have no load times..

[QUOTE="eastside49er"][QUOTE="DSgamer64"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Agreed - the 360 is like the PS2, awesome games but crap system.AvatarAko

The 360 lineup is far few inbetween for a wide variety of genres being covered in good consistency, most of the games are shooters of some sort. I mean yea shooters are great but compared to the PS2's lineup, Sony hands down will always have a better variety of genres covered, much like Nintendo has done plus their introduction of games for non gamers or new players.

STFU!

[QUOTE="SystemWarsMan"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="SystemWarsMan"][QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="beinss"]Actually the 360 was well planned. just HDMI might have been good at the start, thats a fault on M$ side. But not incorporating HD DVD into the system itself was great because no one would have bought a 600 dollar system. (proof, PS3)InfamousC

Why is it killing 360 in sales?

Wait until PS3 is released in Europe next month. Wasn't it M$ that just droppped 360s sales forecast for this year not Sony??? And I will enjoy the Blu Ray player with my HD games with no load times..

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

[QUOTE="beyondgamez"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]The 360 was planned as a gaming Console. It's that simple, that doesn't make it badly planned. They aren't forcing a format onto people therefore raising the price of the console. HD-DVD and Bluray are movie formats that are used for watching movies, it's not as if either of them is going to be anywhere near overtaking DVD's anytime soon. Therefore, they weren't required. InfamousC

It's like talking to a wall with you people. Please, get a clue.

1. PS3 is a trojan horse for Bluray right now, if you want to debate that then you are in denial.

2. Bluray is winning right now, wonderful. Yet, neither HD-DVD or bluray will overtake DVD's within the next 5 years. By then another Console will be readily available from each company.

3. HD-DVD and Bluray is used for movies, nothing more. Simply more storage for games...and until you have every game on the 360 being on more than one disc, this isn't an issue. It's not needed seeing as Blue Dragon is the only game on multiple discs out of 150+ games.

4. I suppose when you have nothing else to bash with a Console you bash the failure rate. Sure, there is a 5% defective rate. I'm assuming that you're weak in the math subject judging from your grammar so i'm going to enlighten you. 10 million consoles sold worldwide/.05 (Yes, this is 5%, sorry if i confused you) = 500,000 Consoles that are potentially going to get the ring of death.

5. Unless you went around whining about how PS2's were busting all around then i suggest you stop talking about the failure rate of consoles, seeing as the dreaded PS2's Disc Read Error was much more prominent then any problem with the Xbox 360.

6. Yes, i'm going to buy a PS3 when the price goes down and/or MGS4 comes out. Yes, you are a fanboy. Does this mean you have to do nothing but post the same crap over and over again all the while getting debunked? No. So stop.

Blu Ray isn't used for games??? That explains why Ninja Gaiden sigma will have no load times..

If that's all you had to comment in that then i guess i was mostly right.

Like i said, Bluray has more space for games, that's about it. I don't think the load times attribute anything to Bluray specifically. It's a glorified version of Ninja Gaiden Black that was on the Xbox years ago, i'd hope that it had no load times on a next gen console even without Bluray.

[QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="SystemWarsMan"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="SystemWarsMan"][QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="beinss"]Actually the 360 was well planned. just HDMI might have been good at the start, thats a fault on M$ side. But not incorporating HD DVD into the system itself was great because no one would have bought a 600 dollar system. (proof, PS3)Danm_999

Why is it killing 360 in sales?

Wait until PS3 is released in Europe next month. Wasn't it M$ that just droppped 360s sales forecast for this year not Sony??? And I will enjoy the Blu Ray player with my HD games with no load times..

[QUOTE="SystemWarsMan"][QUOTE="AvatarAko"]PS3:
-Had Blu-Ray from the start
-Allows any HDD
-Lots of room for improvement via downloadable updates
-Got all the Hardware features they wanted

360:
-Go into next gen format war? No, yes, no yes, HD-DVD add-on comes out...
-No Upgradable HDD, hmm...whatever our fans love spending $$$.
-HDMI? Who cares? Ohh crap we might need it later for movies, crap what to do what to do, hey lets just release a new SKU with these new features, our fans will support us.

360 has been horribly planned from the beginning.
Bren128

[QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

[QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="Danm_999"]And yet, despite being 'so well planned', PS3 had terrible BC compatibility and quality issues at launch, it's online service is basically a pale shadow of XBL and it didn't managed to combine rumble and motion sensing like the Wii did.Puckhog04

1. We don't need the previous generation games. :wink:

2. No, PSN is not equivalent to XBL. I'm sorry you can't afford $50 a year for XBL, but that's the way it is. It's the better online service by a mile.

XBL > PSN.

Cry me a river, either that or stop talking. You're only looking worse and worse.

[QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="eastside49er"][QUOTE="DSgamer64"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Agreed - the 360 is like the PS2, awesome games but crap system.SystemWarsMan

The 360 lineup is far few inbetween for a wide variety of genres being covered in good consistency, most of the games are shooters of some sort. I mean yea shooters are great but compared to the PS2's lineup, Sony hands down will always have a better variety of genres covered, much like Nintendo has done plus their introduction of games for non gamers or new players.

STFU!

And yet, despite being 'so well planned', PS3 had terrible BC compatibility and quality issues at launch, it's online service is basically a pale shadow of XBL and it didn't managed to combine rumble and motion sensing like the Wii did.Danm_999

Funny considering the 360's backwards compatibility is nothing more then an abysmal joke and pretty much nonexistant. OMG upgrades to make games playable is a waste of hard drive space, might as well just play them on the original Xbox, lemmings fail in backwards comaptibility. Also the PS3 controller has tilt sensors, not motion sensors, big difference, Wiimote is on a full 3-dimensional axis in any direction humanly possile, the PS3 controller tilt function only works on the X and Y axis I do believe.

[QUOTE="SystemWarsMan"][QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="eastside49er"][QUOTE="DSgamer64"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Agreed - the 360 is like the PS2, awesome games but crap system.AvatarAko

The 360 lineup is far few inbetween for a wide variety of genres being covered in good consistency, most of the games are shooters of some sort. I mean yea shooters are great but compared to the PS2's lineup, Sony hands down will always have a better variety of genres covered, much like Nintendo has done plus their introduction of games for non gamers or new players.

STFU!

[QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

[QUOTE="beyondgamez"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]The 360 was planned as a gaming Console. It's that simple, that doesn't make it badly planned. They aren't forcing a format onto people therefore raising the price of the console. HD-DVD and Bluray are movie formats that are used for watching movies, it's not as if either of them is going to be anywhere near overtaking DVD's anytime soon. Therefore, they weren't required. Puckhog04

It's like talking to a wall with you people. Please, get a clue.

1. PS3 is a trojan horse for Bluray right now, if you want to debate that then you are in denial.

2. Bluray is winning right now, wonderful. Yet, neither HD-DVD or bluray will overtake DVD's within the next 5 years. By then another Console will be readily available from each company.

3. HD-DVD and Bluray is used for movies, nothing more. Simply more storage for games...and until you have every game on the 360 being on more than one disc, this isn't an issue. It's not needed seeing as Blue Dragon is the only game on multiple discs out of 150+ games.

4. I suppose when you have nothing else to bash with a Console you bash the failure rate. Sure, there is a 5% defective rate. I'm assuming that you're weak in the math subject judging from your grammar so i'm going to enlighten you. 10 million consoles sold worldwide/.05 (Yes, this is 5%, sorry if i confused you) = 500,000 Consoles that are potentially going to get the ring of death.

5. Unless you went around whining about how PS2's were busting all around then i suggest you stop talking about the failure rate of consoles, seeing as the dreaded PS2's Disc Read Error was much more prominent then any problem with the Xbox 360.

6. Yes, i'm going to buy a PS3 when the price goes down and/or MGS4 comes out. Yes, you are a fanboy. Does this mean you have to do nothing but post the same crap over and over again all the while getting debunked? No. So stop.

Blu Ray isn't used for games??? That explains why Ninja Gaiden sigma will have no load times..

If that's all you had to comment in that then i guess i was mostly right.

Like i said, Bluray has more space for games, that's about it. I don't think the load times attribute anything to Bluray specifically. It's a glorified version of Ninja Gaiden Black that was on the Xbox years ago, i'd hope that it had no load times on a next gen console even without Bluray.

  Ninja Gaiden Sigma has no load times because it will be loaded on the HDD. (Actually, there will be load times, but it would be like a game loading from the HDD on your PC)

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]And yet, despite being 'so well planned', PS3 had terrible BC compatibility and quality issues at launch, it's online service is basically a pale shadow of XBL and it didn't managed to combine rumble and motion sensing like the Wii did.DSgamer64

Funny considering the 360's backwards compatibility is nothing more then an abysmal joke and pretty much nonexistant. OMG upgrades to make games playable is a waste of hard drive space, might as well just play them on the original Xbox, lemmings fail in backwards comaptibility. Also the PS3 controller has tilt sensors, not motion sensors, big difference, Wiimote is on a full 3-dimensional axis in any direction humanly possile, the PS3 controller tilt function only works on the X and Y axis I do believe.

[QUOTE="eastside49er"][QUOTE="DSgamer64"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Agreed - the 360 is like the PS2, awesome games but crap system.AvatarAko

The 360 lineup is far few inbetween for a wide variety of genres being covered in good consistency, most of the games are shooters of some sort. I mean yea shooters are great but compared to the PS2's lineup, Sony hands down will always have a better variety of genres covered, much like Nintendo has done plus their introduction of games for non gamers or new players.

STFU!

Hardly. I would go list all of the games that are non shooters that are either out or are announced for the 360 just to own you so hard that you would never come back, but its late and I don't even feel like wasting my time on a POS like you.

I guess in your case, ignorance truly is bliss.

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

[QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="Danm_999"]And yet, despite being 'so well planned', PS3 had terrible BC compatibility and quality issues at launch, it's online service is basically a pale shadow of XBL and it didn't managed to combine rumble and motion sensing like the Wii did.Bren128

1. We don't need the previous generation games. :wink:

2. No, PSN is not equivalent to XBL. I'm sorry you can't afford $50 a year for XBL, but that's the way it is. It's the better online service by a mile.

XBL > PSN.

Cry me a river, either that or stop talking. You're only looking worse and worse.

I pay for the best online service...if PS3's online service were up to XBL i'd pay for that as well. Free is the only way? You know what, that's an excuse that is being used in situation to help your argument. That's about the only argument you people have with XBL because it's essentially got an incredibly short list of gripes.

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

[QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="Danm_999"]And yet, despite being 'so well planned', PS3 had terrible BC compatibility and quality issues at launch, it's online service is basically a pale shadow of XBL and it didn't managed to combine rumble and motion sensing like the Wii did.Bren128

1. We don't need the previous generation games. :wink:

2. No, PSN is not equivalent to XBL. I'm sorry you can't afford $50 a year for XBL, but that's the way it is. It's the better online service by a mile.

XBL > PSN.

Cry me a river, either that or stop talking. You're only looking worse and worse.

 If you don't get online or barely get online you wouldn't pay  for XBL because you wouldn't need it. Maybe you should tune up on logic before you post

[QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="SystemWarsMan"][QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="eastside49er"][QUOTE="DSgamer64"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Agreed - the 360 is like the PS2, awesome games but crap system.SystemWarsMan

The 360 lineup is far few inbetween for a wide variety of genres being covered in good consistency, most of the games are shooters of some sort. I mean yea shooters are great but compared to the PS2's lineup, Sony hands down will always have a better variety of genres covered, much like Nintendo has done plus their introduction of games for non gamers or new players.

STFU!

[QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="SystemWarsMan"][QUOTE="AvatarAko"][QUOTE="eastside49er"][QUOTE="DSgamer64"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Agreed - the 360 is like the PS2, awesome games but crap system.SystemWarsMan

The 360 lineup is far few inbetween for a wide variety of genres being covered in good consistency, most of the games are shooters of some sort. I mean yea shooters are great but compared to the PS2's lineup, Sony hands down will always have a better variety of genres covered, much like Nintendo has done plus their introduction of games for non gamers or new players.

STFU!

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

[QUOTE="beyondgamez"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]The 360 was planned as a gaming Console. It's that simple, that doesn't make it badly planned. They aren't forcing a format onto people therefore raising the price of the console. HD-DVD and Bluray are movie formats that are used for watching movies, it's not as if either of them is going to be anywhere near overtaking DVD's anytime soon. Therefore, they weren't required. Nagidar

It's like talking to a wall with you people. Please, get a clue.

1. PS3 is a trojan horse for Bluray right now, if you want to debate that then you are in denial.

2. Bluray is winning right now, wonderful. Yet, neither HD-DVD or bluray will overtake DVD's within the next 5 years. By then another Console will be readily available from each company.

3. HD-DVD and Bluray is used for movies, nothing more. Simply more storage for games...and until you have every game on the 360 being on more than one disc, this isn't an issue. It's not needed seeing as Blue Dragon is the only game on multiple discs out of 150+ games.

4. I suppose when you have nothing else to bash with a Console you bash the failure rate. Sure, there is a 5% defective rate. I'm assuming that you're weak in the math subject judging from your grammar so i'm going to enlighten you. 10 million consoles sold worldwide/.05 (Yes, this is 5%, sorry if i confused you) = 500,000 Consoles that are potentially going to get the ring of death.

5. Unless you went around whining about how PS2's were busting all around then i suggest you stop talking about the failure rate of consoles, seeing as the dreaded PS2's Disc Read Error was much more prominent then any problem with the Xbox 360.

6. Yes, i'm going to buy a PS3 when the price goes down and/or MGS4 comes out. Yes, you are a fanboy. Does this mean you have to do nothing but post the same crap over and over again all the while getting debunked? No. So stop.

Blu Ray isn't used for games??? That explains why Ninja Gaiden sigma will have no load times..

If that's all you had to comment in that then i guess i was mostly right.

Like i said, Bluray has more space for games, that's about it. I don't think the load times attribute anything to Bluray specifically. It's a glorified version of Ninja Gaiden Black that was on the Xbox years ago, i'd hope that it had no load times on a next gen console even without Bluray.

  Ninja Gaiden Sigma has no load times because it will be loaded on the HDD. (Actually, there will be load times, but it would be like a game loading from the HDD on your PC)

As i said then, doesn't attribute anything to Bluray. :)

I have never seen a thread fill up so fast with TC ownage.:|

Well, not since the Yo_Foo - Halo 3 debockle.....