PS3 will have some great games that many will never get 2 play... kinda sad

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#51 ironcreed
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[QUOTE="ironcreed"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

quote: The PS3 IS A BETTER DEAL IN THE LONG RUN....period 

            Only way for that to be true is if like me, you wait for a $200.00 price drop - nuf said ;)

rdo

 

Well. what if you end up forking out nearly 200.00 to get your 360 repaired after your warranty is null and void? Not to mention what you pay for Live, or if you decide to get any "add-ons", lol. Seems to me, the 360, desptie being a lemon of a design, is also potentially more expensive in THE LONG RUN.

Like I said, the PS3 is a one time, one price, and RELIABLE LONG TERM investment with all of the features straight out of the box.....no "add on" bullsh!t millkage, hence, a better deal in the long run. It is even backward compatible with PS1, and PS2 straight out of the box. Enough said.

you dont have to buy the addons.  with a price cut a core would only cost $199 laer so forget a $200 repair,  thats a brand new consloe you can get.  my launch unit hasn't had a single problem.  live costs 14 cents a day,  the ps3 costs $2.00 and hour in electricity.  i could play my 360 off line,  can you play the ps3 without electricity?  ms stood behind their console abd extended the warrenty.   sony had to be sued into honoring the ps2 warranty.  the emotion chip has been removed from current ps3s,  if you can get one of those it has been sittting on a shelf for over 3 months.  you paid $600 to play games i played last year,  and you want to talk about milkage? 

 

I realize that the add ons are optional for the 360....but PS3 comes with them, which of of course equals NO POTENTIAL FUTURE MILKAGE....not to mention free online.;) My point was if you get all of the add ons, you pay more for the 360 in the end. Plus it is made like sh!t, which is PROVEN. And, no, I did not pay 600.00 to play games you played last year:lol:. Or did you play, Lair, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Ratchet and Clank: Tools of Destruction, Killzone 2, Little Big Planet, White Knight Story, MGS4, FFXIII, War Devil: Enigma, ect. ect. last year?....that's what I thought, bud.;) Nice try though

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#52 rdo
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I realize that the add ons are optional for the 360....but PS3 comes with them, which of of course equals NO POTENTIAL FUTURE MILKAGE....not to mention free online.;) My point was if you get all of the add ons, you pay more for the 360 in the end. Plus it is made like sh!t, which is PROVEN. And, no, I did not pay 600.00 to play games you played last year:lol:. Or did you play, Lair, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Ratchet and Clank: Tools of Destruction, Killzone 2, Little Big Planet, White Knight Story, MGS4, FFXIII, War Devil: Enigma, ect. ect. last year?....that's what I thought, bud.;) Nice try though

ironcreed
have you played them yet ? that's what i thought.  you are probably playing oblivion.  in about 2 weeks i'll be playing forza2,  deemed the best racer period,  and it comes to the ps3 around....never.  three weeks after that i'll be playing dirt,  and you are gonna love the next part.  it's made by code masters and wont be comming out on the ps3 untill mnoths later because the ps3 is poorly designed acording to codemasters.  code masters says the 360 is the best console.  the first was a nice try,  this one was better? you should just give up.  if you are happy with your ps3 great, to each his own.  but there is no way you are going to win the argument that it's a better value than the 360.  the facts are all on my side
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#53 souledge474
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Hey guys lets wait some more:|

these excuses are getting more pathetic each day

untill MGS4 and Final Fantasy come out....I have no reason to glance at a PS3

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#54 donalbane
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A little early too be digging graves, ya think? Give it at least a year, bud. Even considering the current huge quarterly losses....the PS3 is not about to go anywhere. It has only been out six months, and has not even had a chance to show what it can really do yet, and people are already prematurely, and ignorantly saying that it is dead, lol. Give me a break man.

All of this negativity torward the PS3 has sadly become nothing more than a fanboy trend. "Everybody else is bashing it, so let's join the gang!" Sure, Sony made some mistakes, but you think that Microsoft has ran a straight operation? Hell, the 360 has been out nearly 2 years now, and it's STILL the most SHODDY console on the market. It might red ring you if you look at it wrong it is so poorly made.

Do not get me wrong, I own, and love the 360 as well, but it is a piece of sh!t, man. Great game library....yes indeed. But the hardware SUCKS. In my opinion, this should be the obvious, and viable target for so called "bashing", as what good is a killer game library on a part time console? You can pile all of the gold you want on a turd, but it still will be a TURD all the same. Not to even mention all of the "options" that they give you via add ons in order to try and milk the hell out of their customers.

All of these things that Microsoft are getting away with, and people just ignore them because of games like Gears of War, and it makes me sick. Every GOOD thing that Sony tries to do, like free online, Home, working as hard as they can to get some great games out, ect. is automatically shot down in flames because some gamers are just bitter that it is 600.00, and because Sony is getting a late start with the software. Nevermind the fact that it is a damn fine piece of hardware that is RELIABLE....making it a great LONG TERM INVESTMENT to play games on, and watch HD blu-ray movies on for the LONG HAUL OF THE NEXT FEW YEARS.

People always ignore the good in favor of the negatives, but with Microsoft, it seems it is the opposite because they finally got a few good games. Not hardly right, nor fair. Even though the hardware is still as shoddy as ever, people ignore it because they have a good library. They look over the fact that hordes of people are already on their 3rd, 4th and even 5th 360s just because the games are good. Why not slack up on Sony already, at least give them the benefit of the doubt here, and give them a little longer than 6 months to show what the PS3 can do by releasing some great games on a RELIABLE console that will not lemon out on you at any given moment, making you go through 2, 3 or more of them before the end of the generation? LONG TERM INVESTMENT, folks.

At $600.00, when looked at from a long term perspective, the reliability of the PS3, prospective GREAT looking future line-up of games, HD blu-ray player included, free online....how is it not easily worth the years of entertainment that you will get out of it? Consider the 360 at $399.00 after your warranty runs out. What is it....nearly 200.00 bones to get it fixed if it red rings on you? If you want an HD DVD add on, that is 200.00 more bucks. Let's see here, 50.00 a year for XBL. Hell, hey even charge 180.00 for their new 120GB HD, if you decided to pick one up for your premium. Man, that sure does add up, does it not....and on a console that is a PROVEN piece of sh!t hardware wise? HMMMMM.

Maybe you guys are bashing the wrong company here. 600.00 for a PS3 is more than reasonable when looked at from a future standpoint that is weighed with reliablity, features, great future game line-up, free online, and INCLUDED hardware that the PS3 comes with straight out of the box....no extra milkage. Just try looking at it from that perspective, and it should make sense. The PS3 bashing has gone on for FAR too long, and is on overkill so hard, it is not even funny. I own, and love the 360, as well, but facts are facts. The PS3 IS A BETTER DEAL IN THE LONG RUN....period.

Of course it will all come down to personal preference in games though, and that is why I had to have both, as they actually complement each other, and both will have their own great line-up of exclusives that deserve credit where credit is due, but imo, the PS3 is indeed the better long term deal, and choice by far.....for very obvious reasons that I outlined above.

legalize3

you shouldnt write this down it makes to much sense for sw people...

 

You speak of NO EXTRA MILKAGE, yet no Headset (wired or otherwise), HD cables, or USB cable long enough to play while you charge the remote are included.  If you buy all those things, you are talking another $100 at least.  And they are re-releasing a rumblin' sixaxis... time to sell those old controllers for pennies to the dollar.  And when you get bent over on day one with the $600 price point, you don't get a cookie for not having that experience drawn out.  Essentially Sony Milks everyone right off the bat by limiting their choices.
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#55 ironcreed
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I realize that the add ons are optional for the 360....but PS3 comes with them, which of of course equals NO POTENTIAL FUTURE MILKAGE....not to mention free online.;) My point was if you get all of the add ons, you pay more for the 360 in the end. Plus it is made like sh!t, which is PROVEN. And, no, I did not pay 600.00 to play games you played last year:lol:. Or did you play, Lair, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Ratchet and Clank: Tools of Destruction, Killzone 2, Little Big Planet, White Knight Story, MGS4, FFXIII, War Devil: Enigma, ect. ect. last year?....that's what I thought, bud.;) Nice try though

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have you played them yet ? that's what i thought.  you are probably playing oblivion.  in about 2 weeks i'll be playing forza2,  deemed the best racer period,  and it comes to the ps3 around....never.  three weeks after that i'll be playing dirt,  and you are gonna love the next part.  it's made by code masters and wont be comming out on the ps3 untill mnoths later because the ps3 is poorly designed acording to codemasters.  code masters says the 360 is the best console.  the first was a nice try,  this one was better? you should just give up.  if you are happy with your ps3 great, to each his own.  but there is no way you are going to win the argument that it's a better value than the 360.  the facts are all on my side

 

Facts are on your side, aye?:lol: More like your OPINION is on your side....just as mine is on my side, lol. No, I have not played the games I listed of course....but I will soon enough, and yes I am playing Oblivion...ON MY 360. Anyway, games like the ones I mentioned are the reason I bought my PS3, and just because you may not think that they are worth waiting for, it in no way makes it a FACT that you are right, and I am wrong. You only have YOUR OPINION on your side....as do I. Simple as that. 

But regardless, in my opinion, AND FOR ME PERSONALLY, the PS3 is a better long term value for what you get when weighed with the reliability factors with all that you get for 1 price, which makes it a ONE PRICE better long term investment from my perspective. Looking at the situation 3-4 years down the road, the 360 is indeed the more expensive choice IF one were to get the add ons, pay for XBL, get potential repairs, ect.

With the PS3, the online is free, all of the features that are add ons for the 360 ARE INCLUDED in one price, and it is also MADE CONSIDERABLY BETTER. Now, my good sir, those ARE FACTS....which are clearly in my corner IF you add the price of all you would be paying for the 360 over the years and compare it to the one time price that you would pay for the PS3. The PS3 is the CHEAPER CHOICE FOR THE LONG TERM WITH ALL THAT IS INCLUDED WITH IT in this particular comparison....period. Which was the comparison that I was making to begin with. No disputing that, as all you have to do is add.

And please do not give me the, "but you do not have to buy the add ons" arguement either, as I was stating that IF you add all of the add ons to the 360, it is IN FACT more expensive then what you pay for the PS3 for a one time 600.00.....all features included. If you do not get the add ons for the 360...well you just will have less features than what the PS3 offers....simple as that, hence, the price. End of story.  

In response to your statements about Codemasters. Their opinion of the PS3 is not going to change the fact that I love them as developers and am greatly looking forward to a few of their up coming titles....namely Overlord. Also, Clive Barker's Jericho and Rise of the Argonauts....both of which will also be on the PS3 that you say they hate so much.:P  

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i'm a 360 owner and i would tell anyone to get whats best for them. i got a 360 because i was pissed at sony after E306... but now i see the PS3 is a much better system when it comes to hardware. you get a next-gen movie player out of the box and a good gaming console with 20g harddrive plus free on on-line gaming all for $500. now as we all know for all that with the 360 its much more than $500. now i much say i did my best to talk friends/co-workers out of getting a PS3 well no more. i'm getting one after the sell of my house so i'll be a 360PS3 owner so no more PS3 hate for me. so i'll get to play many of the great PS3/360 games soon.... thx:) norm
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#57 Smoke_ManMuscle
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ps3 is selling better then the xbox360 in its first 6 months after launch

means the xbox360 is the first dreamcast right ? 

legalize3

PS3 ain't competing with the 360 6 months after launch; it's competing with 360 NOW.

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#58 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

quote: The PS3 IS A BETTER DEAL IN THE LONG RUN....period 

            Only way for that to be true is if like me, you wait for a $200.00 price drop - nuf said ;)

ironcreed

 

Well. what if you end up forking out nearly 200.00 to get your 360 repaired after your warranty is null and void? Not to mention what you pay for Live, or if you decide to get any "add-ons", lol. Seems to me, the 360, desptie being a lemon of a design, is also potentially more expensive in THE LONG RUN.

Like I said, the PS3 is a one time, one price, and RELIABLE LONG TERM investment with all of the features straight out of the box.....no "add on" bullsh!t millkage, hence, a better deal in the long run. It is even backward compatible with PS1, and PS2 straight out of the box. Enough said.

     I must be the luckiest person alive - My houshold has ( 3 !!! ) 360's yet none have failed yet all I hear is this unreliable hardware issue - Huh - I dunno maybe I am - Lucky numbers to play tonight are 3, 6, 0,  but dont tellem I told you so lmao ;)
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[QUOTE="ironcreed"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

quote: The PS3 IS A BETTER DEAL IN THE LONG RUN....period 

            Only way for that to be true is if like me, you wait for a $200.00 price drop - nuf said ;)

SecretPolice

 

Well. what if you end up forking out nearly 200.00 to get your 360 repaired after your warranty is null and void? Not to mention what you pay for Live, or if you decide to get any "add-ons", lol. Seems to me, the 360, desptie being a lemon of a design, is also potentially more expensive in THE LONG RUN.

Like I said, the PS3 is a one time, one price, and RELIABLE LONG TERM investment with all of the features straight out of the box.....no "add on" bullsh!t millkage, hence, a better deal in the long run. It is even backward compatible with PS1, and PS2 straight out of the box. Enough said.

     I must be the luckiest person alive - My houshold has ( 3 !!! ) 360's yet none have failed yet all I hear is this unreliable hardware issue - Huh - I dunno maybe I am - Lucky numbers to play tonight are 3, 6, 0,  but dont tellem I told you so lmao ;)

 Haven't your realized by now? Every cow that posts in this forum is on their 8th 360 and all of their friends are too. Heck, cows have nothing better to do then troll the official 360 forums with their stories.

 It's nice to know that when Sony does another smoke in mirrors show, suddenly every cow in existence gets brave enough to act like it was the biggest thing.

 BTW, the videogame cases at work are only overfilled with PS3 products, the 360 and Wii cases are almost empty. Go figure...

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#60 De_Bears
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The truth is....

Your pocket-book went the way of the dreamcast and you expect Sony to make their premier system fit your budget.  If you can't afford it stay with the cheaper stuff.  No one is begging you guys to buy one.

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#61 -Murdock-
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When the PS3 or any of the next gen consoles get games worth playing, then I'll buy one, until then, they're all pretty sub-par.
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#62 raynimrod
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[QUOTE="legalize3"]

ps3 is selling better then the xbox360 in its first 6 months after launch

means the xbox360 is the first dreamcast right ? 

Smoke_ManMuscle

PS3 ain't competing with the 360 6 months after launch; it's competing with 360 NOW.



Why do you keep posting the exact same response in every topic?  I don't know what point you're trying to make Smoke_ManMuscle.  Are you saying that in the 6 months (7 weeks world wide) the PS3 has been out, it should have sold more than the 360 has since its release?  It looks like you're sugesting something along those lines which if you are, is just ridiculous.  The PS3 is doing better than the 360 was at this point in its life, how could the PS3 currently be a failure?  Good work.