PS3 Won't Catch 360 until 2009...if not later

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#1 comstrikeiscool
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The 360 is selling a steady 8 million each year. By the end of 2008 it should have around 24 million units sold. Why does everyone keep saying the PS3 is going to catch the 360 when it would have to sell 16 MILLION units in ONE year? In other words, PS3's second year is going to have to match how the Wii did it's first year.
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The PS3 has, as I understand, sold just under 9 million units worldwide, and is currently selling at a faster rate than the 360 in many areas. This, plus the fact that next year many of PS3's most anticipated titles will be released/announced will likely raise sales. But who said this is a sprint, not a marathon? If it takes PS3 till 09 to catch 360, does it matter?
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#3 shiram
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people dislike microsoft and Bill Gates, much like other people will dislike Sony or Nintendo
but your math is wrong, you cant assume what the 360's sale will be, nor the ps3's
though i would be surprised if the ps3 managed to pass the 360 in overall sales
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The 360 is selling a steady 8 million each year. By the end of 2008 it should have around 24 million units sold. Why does everyone keep saying the PS3 is going to catch the 360 when it would have to sell 16 MILLION units in ONE year? In other words, PS3's second year is going to have to match how the Wii did it's first year. comstrikeiscool

LOL Dude it didn't even reach that much this year soo just go away :P.

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#5 lhughey
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Yeah, the PS3 would have to sell better than the Wii did last year AND the X360 would have to sell NO consoles in order for Sony to catch them. Its not going to happen. Sony cannot make up a difference of 8M consoles in a year unless they were to drop the price of the PS3 to 199.00. This is assuming that the sales of the X360 is around 15-16M and sells of the PS3 are 8-9M.
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#6 light_zwitch
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from my point of view is that the 360 sells will slow down significantly because technically the ps3 came out in 2007 and sold to a near 8 million units and since there are more hyped games in 2008 I believe that sales would double and there is a hell of a lot of ps2 users left who want a ps3 but are waiting for the right time such as halo did for xbox. Ps3 users need a reason to buy a ps3 and so 2008 will determine to get a ps3 or not.
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#7 light_zwitch
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and btw there are 120 millions ps2 users out there so that a possiblity
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The PS3 has, as I understand, sold just under 9 million units worldwide, and is currently selling at a faster rate than the 360 in many areas. This, plus the fact that next year many of PS3's most anticipated titles will be released/announced will likely raise sales. But who said this is a sprint, not a marathon? If it takes PS3 till 09 to catch 360, does it matter? z_gaming_master

I agree with this dude. I also like to add that there are alot of PS2 gamers waiting to jump ship and maybe it's the established franchise like GT5, Tekken 6, GT5 & FF13 that will cause them to buy a PS3 this year or a price drop which will surely happen around Christmas time.

360 sales have slowed down in Europe and PS3 is rapidly catching up, all this leaves 360 with is the lead it has in America which will start to diminish by the end of this year.

but like z_gamer said "who said this is a sprint, not a marathon? If it takes PS3 till 09 to catch 360, does it matter?"

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#9 Strongman98
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the 360 is not selling a steady 8million, sales continure to decline while the sales for the ps3 continue to rise, plus the fect the ps3 heavy hitters arent out, well idk it seems inevitable
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The 360 is selling a steady 8 million each year. By the end of 2008 it should have around 24 million units sold. Why does everyone keep saying the PS3 is going to catch the 360 when it would have to sell 16 MILLION units in ONE year? In other words, PS3's second year is going to have to match how the Wii did it's first year. comstrikeiscool

Japan is all Wii and PS3 , Europe is very soon going to be in PS3 hands and the US is slowly going to the PS3

sales will sky rocket

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[QUOTE="comstrikeiscool"]The 360 is selling a steady 8 million each year. By the end of 2008 it should have around 24 million units sold. Why does everyone keep saying the PS3 is going to catch the 360 when it would have to sell 16 MILLION units in ONE year? In other words, PS3's second year is going to have to match how the Wii did it's first year. Sony_92

Japan is all Wii and PS3 , Europe is very soon going to be in PS3 hands and the US is slowly going to the PS3

sales will sky rocket

Do you guys just pull figures out of your ass? Japan is all Wii(has the PS3 ever managed to outsell the Wii in a single month in Japan)? Europe is Wii, with the PS3 and 360 both behind(the PS3 is still quite a ways behind the 360, and I believe present rates of sales would STILL take until at least 2009 for it to catch up to the 360). NA is 360 with the Wii closing in. The PS3 has STILL been outsold every single month it has been out in NA, by pretty much the same 2-1 margin the entire time. The PS3 falls further behind in NA month in and month out...how in the hell do you equate that to "catching up"?
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PS3 will never catch 360, get that out of your minds cows. I know NOBODY that's buying a PS3 next year just for MGSIV, or GT5.
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Everyone thought the Wii was going to be a flop and look how that turned out.

It's too early to judge if it will or not....

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I think its just wishful thinking and a delusion to think that all of a sudden the PS3 would surpass the 360 and Wii from behind magically in 2008.

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#16 _KenKittyragi_
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I think its just wishful thinking and a delusion to think that all of a sudden the PS3 would surpass the 360 and Wii from behind magically in 2008.

ReverseCycology

I will never happen, PS3 will always be in last place. Period.

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Well by the end of 08 360 should be dead outside NA, microsoft should just pull out since they will never be accepted really outside NA

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#18 _KenKittyragi_
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Well by the end of 08 360 should be dead outside NA, microsoft should just pull out since they will never be accepted really outside NA

Paddy345

europe...

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[QUOTE="Paddy345"]

Well by the end of 08 360 should be dead outside NA, microsoft should just pull out since they will never be accepted really outside NA

_KenKittyragi_

europe...

Yes of course europe, ps3 has nearly over took 360 there already and already has in germany, spain, italy, portugal and soon france, the only people who like it is UK

360 will be dead outside NA, MS should just pull out of the next gen

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#20 p2rus
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I think its just wishful thinking and a delusion to think that all of a sudden the PS3 would surpass the 360 and Wii from behind magically in 2008.

ReverseCycology

you hit it on the head...the words magic, 2008, and ps3 all in one sentence...no but seriously. 2008 can be an awsome year for the ps3. itll never win in NA, but then again the world doesnt revolve around the us. it revolves around antartica.

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Its pretty simple math to figure out how many consoles Sony will have to sell to catch the x360 by the end of 2009. You will get a rough number to go by, but not an accurate number because you have to predict the impact of sales coming with price drops in the next 2 years for both consoles.

Imo, we wont see a Premium package from Sony(BC) and MS(HDD) with a mainstream price (Sub $199) until 2009. Consoles havent been this pricey since the Saturn launched early for $399 and its going to take longer to see these consoles true saturation witha mainstream price.

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I don't think the PS3 will catch up on the 360 in 2008, but it will probably close the gap significantly.

Predition X360-24M PS3-20M

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#23 _KenKittyragi_
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[QUOTE="_KenKittyragi_"][QUOTE="Paddy345"]

Well by the end of 08 360 should be dead outside NA, microsoft should just pull out since they will never be accepted really outside NA

Paddy345

europe...

Yes of course europe, ps3 has nearly over took 360 there already and already has in germany, spain, italy, portugal and soon france, the only people who like it is UK

360 will be dead outside NA, MS should just pull out of the next gen

the units sold in uk offsets the difference sold in the other countries

fail

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[QUOTE="Paddy345"][QUOTE="_KenKittyragi_"][QUOTE="Paddy345"]

Well by the end of 08 360 should be dead outside NA, microsoft should just pull out since they will never be accepted really outside NA

_KenKittyragi_

europe...

Yes of course europe, ps3 has nearly over took 360 there already and already has in germany, spain, italy, portugal and soon france, the only people who like it is UK

360 will be dead outside NA, MS should just pull out of the next gen

the units sold in uk offsets the difference sold in the other countries

fail

linky linky?

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With what is happening with the 360 slow sales and the increase of PS3 sales it is very possible that M$ will be back where it was before (same place as the XBOX was).

Then if M$ releases another SKU with a high definition disc drive it could kill the M$ game console completely.

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#26 Swift_Boss_A
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I don't think the PS3 will catch up on the 360 in 2008, but it will probably close the gap significantly.

Predition X360-24M PS3-20M

DarkCloud79

my thoughts exactly :) PS3 will close the gap this year and overtake next year

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Yeah, the PS3 would have to sell better than the Wii did last year AND the X360 would have to sell NO consoles in order for Sony to catch them. Its not going to happen. Sony cannot make up a difference of 8M consoles in a year unless they were to drop the price of the PS3 to 199.00. This is assuming that the sales of the X360 is around 15-16M and sells of the PS3 are 8-9M.lhughey

so what you are trying to say is that the ps3 would have to sell 20 million units next year to get to a total of 29 million to pass the xbox 360 that is at 16 million

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#28 Sony_92
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Everyone thought the Wii was going to be a flop and look how that turned out.

It's too early to judge if it will or not....

UnrealSin_X

Even if at the end of this gen and the Wii is at first place it's still the worst.

The Wii is a disgrace to gaming

If we wanted gameplay over graphics etc. we would be playing our NES's

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Ps2 library is keeping some folks playing still which isnt bad...08 is gonna be a huge win or die thing for sony...and to be honest there looking like there gonna slaughter...i bought my ps3 last week after christmas just to prepare...who doesnt want to play LBP...unless you have no creativity and just Dislike fun.
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[QUOTE="Sony_92"]

[QUOTE="comstrikeiscool"]The 360 is selling a steady 8 million each year. By the end of 2008 it should have around 24 million units sold. Why does everyone keep saying the PS3 is going to catch the 360 when it would have to sell 16 MILLION units in ONE year? In other words, PS3's second year is going to have to match how the Wii did it's first year. Steppy_76

Japan is all Wii and PS3 , Europe is very soon going to be in PS3 hands and the US is slowly going to the PS3

sales will sky rocket

Do you guys just pull figures out of your ass? Japan is all Wii(has the PS3 ever managed to outsell the Wii in a single month in Japan)? Europe is Wii, with the PS3 and 360 both behind(the PS3 is still quite a ways behind the 360, and I believe present rates of sales would STILL take until at least 2009 for it to catch up to the 360). NA is 360 with the Wii closing in. The PS3 has STILL been outsold every single month it has been out in NA, by pretty much the same 2-1 margin the entire time. The PS3 falls further behind in NA month in and month out...how in the hell do you equate that to "catching up"?

did you check the sales latley?

'xbox 360 = 16 million (2 years)

ps3 = 9 million (1 year)

also the ps3 is out selling the 360 everywhere except america

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If they get the price to $299 before the holiday and the big games generate a lot of hype then yes PS3 could EASILY be tied with 360 by the end of the year. Still yet to see any of the huge name games people.
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[QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"]

Everyone thought the Wii was going to be a flop and look how that turned out.

It's too early to judge if it will or not....

Sony_92

Even if at the end of this gen and the Wii is at first place it's still the worst.

The Wii is a disgrace to gaming

If we wanted gameplay over graphics etc. we would be playing our NES's

if u want graphics over game play GO OUTSIDE. the graphics are great there sux in gameplay though
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ONLY TIME TELLS
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#34 Shattered007
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did you check the sales latley?

'xbox 360 = 16 million (2 years)

ps3 = 9 million (1 year)

also the ps3 is out selling the 360 everywhere except america

micky4889

Do you guys just pull figures out of your ass?Steppy_76

I lol'd

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#35 comstrikeiscool
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If they get the price to $299 before the holiday and the big games generate a lot of hype then yes PS3 could EASILY be tied with 360 by the end of the year. Still yet to see any of the huge name games people.Lazy_Boy88

What? I don't think Sony would be able to produce enough systems along to catch 360 in one year. Do you realize it would have to sell nearly 15 million in one year?

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More people are starting to buy a PS3 rather than a 360.
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[QUOTE="z_gaming_master"]The PS3 has, as I understand, sold just under 9 million units worldwide, and is currently selling at a faster rate than the 360 in many areas. This, plus the fact that next year many of PS3's most anticipated titles will be released/announced will likely raise sales. But who said this is a sprint, not a marathon? If it takes PS3 till 09 to catch 360, does it matter? Swift_Boss_A

I agree with this dude. I also like to add that there are alot of PS2 gamers waiting to jump ship and maybe it's the established franchise like GT5, Tekken 6, GT5 & FF13 that will cause them to buy a PS3 this year or a price drop which will surely happen around Christmas time.

360 sales have slowed down in Europe and PS3 is rapidly catching up, all this leaves 360 with is the lead it has in America which will start to diminish by the end of this year.

but like z_gamer said "who said this is a sprint, not a marathon? If it takes PS3 till 09 to catch 360, does it matter?"

BTW you spent an entire year claiming what a great value the PS3 is, yet you don't even have one.

I guess it's not THAT great a value, right? ;)

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#38 Yellow_Rose
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Well by the end of 08 360 should be dead outside NA, microsoft should just pull out since they will never be accepted really outside NA

Paddy345

We heard the same thing last year.

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#39 Yellow_Rose
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[QUOTE="Steppy_76"][QUOTE="Sony_92"]

[QUOTE="comstrikeiscool"]The 360 is selling a steady 8 million each year. By the end of 2008 it should have around 24 million units sold. Why does everyone keep saying the PS3 is going to catch the 360 when it would have to sell 16 MILLION units in ONE year? In other words, PS3's second year is going to have to match how the Wii did it's first year. micky4889

Japan is all Wii and PS3 , Europe is very soon going to be in PS3 hands and the US is slowly going to the PS3

sales will sky rocket

Do you guys just pull figures out of your ass? Japan is all Wii(has the PS3 ever managed to outsell the Wii in a single month in Japan)? Europe is Wii, with the PS3 and 360 both behind(the PS3 is still quite a ways behind the 360, and I believe present rates of sales would STILL take until at least 2009 for it to catch up to the 360). NA is 360 with the Wii closing in. The PS3 has STILL been outsold every single month it has been out in NA, by pretty much the same 2-1 margin the entire time. The PS3 falls further behind in NA month in and month out...how in the hell do you equate that to "catching up"?

did you check the sales latley?

'xbox 360 = 16 million (2 years)

ps3 = 9 million (1 year)

also the ps3 is out selling the 360 everywhere except america

What's your source?

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#40 Swift_Boss_A
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[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

[QUOTE="z_gaming_master"]The PS3 has, as I understand, sold just under 9 million units worldwide, and is currently selling at a faster rate than the 360 in many areas. This, plus the fact that next year many of PS3's most anticipated titles will be released/announced will likely raise sales. But who said this is a sprint, not a marathon? If it takes PS3 till 09 to catch 360, does it matter? Yellow_Rose

I agree with this dude. I also like to add that there are alot of PS2 gamers waiting to jump ship and maybe it's the established franchise like GT5, Tekken 6, GT5 & FF13 that will cause them to buy a PS3 this year or a price drop which will surely happen around Christmas time.

360 sales have slowed down in Europe and PS3 is rapidly catching up, all this leaves 360 with is the lead it has in America which will start to diminish by the end of this year.

but like z_gamer said "who said this is a sprint, not a marathon? If it takes PS3 till 09 to catch 360, does it matter?"

BTW you spent an entire year claiming what a great value the PS3 is, yet you don't even have one.

I guess it's not THAT great a value, right? ;)

wow you and Blackbond are all over me for not having a PS3 yet :? So what now I have to purchase PS3 in order to say its a good console. I'm getting a PS3 you guys don't have to worry about it, you see I bought the PS1 when MGS launched, I bought the PS2 when MGS2 launched and I'm gonna buy the PS3 when MGS4 launches, its a matter of principle for me.

PS3 is definitely a quality console with enough features & titles to warrent a purchase, right now I'm happy with my PS2. now will you guys stop riding me about purchasing a PS3... oh wait that came out wrong :shock:

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wow you and Blackbond are all over me for not having a PS3 yet :? So what now I have to purchase PS3 in order to say its a good console. I'm getting a PS3 you guys don't have to worry about it, you see I bought the PS1 when MGS launched, I bought the PS2 when MGS2 launched and I'm gonna buy the PS3 when MGS4 launches, its a matter of principle for me.

PS3 is definitely a quality console with enough features & titles to warrent a purchase, right now I'm happy with my PS2. now will you guys stop riding me about purchasing a PS3... oh wait that came out wrong :shock:

Swift_Boss_A

You're happy with your PS2 you say? So you have no clue whatsoever how good the PS3 is, right?

I have a PS3, you wanna know how good it is. You'll have to see my next blogpost. ;)

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#42 Yellow_Rose
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I'll tell you why any Sony fanboy that believes the PS3 will catch up significantly to the 360 this year might as well believe in Bigfoot and the Tooth Fairy. ;)

We've already covered that the PS3 would have to outsell the 360 world wide by at least 600,000 every month. This "supposively" is going to happen when "the big hits" release on the PS3?

When will that happen BTW? Because until then, the PS3 will continue to sell subpar every month (especially in NA).

....so there goes that theory. ;)

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#43 fuzzysquash
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I'll tell you why any Sony fanboy that believes the PS3 will catch up significantly to the 360 this year might as well believe in Bigfoot and the Tooth Fairy. ;)

We've already covered that the PS3 would have to outsell the 360 world wide by at least 600,000 every month. This "supposively" is going to happen when "the big hits" release on the PS3?

When will that happen BTW? Because until then, the PS3 will continue to sell subpar every month (especially in NA).

....so there goes that theory. ;)

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#44 TOAO_Cyrus
Member since 2003 • 270 Posts

With what is happening with the 360 slow sales and the increase of PS3 sales it is very possible that M$ will be back where it was before (same place as the XBOX was).

Then if M$ releases another SKU with a high definition disc drive it could kill the M$ game console completely.

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LOL fanboy logic makes me sick. Most people dont equate more features a bad thing and a reason not to buy something. And before you scream hyprocrit the PS3 was just to expensive to compete at launch. If they launched with a version at 400$ they wouldnt be in the perdicimate they are in.

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#45 Supafly1
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[QUOTE="comstrikeiscool"]The 360 is selling a steady 8 million each year. By the end of 2008 it should have around 24 million units sold. Why does everyone keep saying the PS3 is going to catch the 360 when it would have to sell 16 MILLION units in ONE year? In other words, PS3's second year is going to have to match how the Wii did it's first year. Sony_92

Japan is all Wii and PS3 , Europe is very soon going to be in PS3 hands and the US is slowly going to the PS3

sales will sky rocket

You sure? Because I remember that PS3 sold so badly that they had to start selling things in bundles so that someone would buy the console. And that still continues. I live in a small country in Europe but PS3 sales are quite horrible here.

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#46 Ballroompirate
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NA bundles ( ps3 ) is not worth it, we get a stupid blu ray movie why in Japan they get DMC 4....wow do I feel ript off.
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#47 360wiiPS3gamer
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Why doea everyone think that the PS3 is gonna catch upto the 360?
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#48 micky4889
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[QUOTE="Sony_92"]

[QUOTE="comstrikeiscool"]The 360 is selling a steady 8 million each year. By the end of 2008 it should have around 24 million units sold. Why does everyone keep saying the PS3 is going to catch the 360 when it would have to sell 16 MILLION units in ONE year? In other words, PS3's second year is going to have to match how the Wii did it's first year. Supafly1

Japan is all Wii and PS3 , Europe is very soon going to be in PS3 hands and the US is slowly going to the PS3

sales will sky rocket

You sure? Because I remember that PS3 sold so badly that they had to start selling things in bundles so that someone would buy the console. And that still continues. I live in a small country in Europe but PS3 sales are quite horrible here.

what country are you from? im from europe as well and ps3 sales are through the roof here also the ps3 is outselling the 360 month by month in europe and japan by a good bit
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#49 Shadow2k6
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Why doea everyone think that the PS3 is gonna catch upto the 360?360wiiPS3gamer

Maybe because it sold 6-9 million in its first year without any killer aps? I don't know but considering its killer aps are not even released (but are about to) the sales might sky rocket. I don't think PS3 will catch up to 360 in 2008 though I think 2009 is a safe bet. Considering by 2009 PS3 will probably have MGS4, FF13 and FF13 Versus (big maybe there), God of War 3, and othergames like Resistance 2, Uncharted 2, maybe another R&C, Infamous, etc.

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#50 rocklegacy2
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assuming 360 sales don't slow down of course