PS3's biggest failure... Development or Marketing or.....?

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#51 colmusterd28
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Development is top notch for the PS3. I would have to say marketing is the worst. Although it's getting better.

And this "JUST WAIT" nonsense is pretty ignorant. Lemmings should hope that "JUST WAIT" never goes away because this "JUST WAIT" thing is going to be gone really soon. Your setting yourself up Lemmings.

dream431ca

Development was in reference to the console itself... ie. bluray, cell processor... new unproven tech that drives prices up...

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#52 Udsen
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[QUOTE="King_of_Sorrow"]How is it a system that has been out for 2 years and has sold less than a system that's been out for 1 year not consider that console a failure?colmusterd28

How is it that a company with a 100+ million user fanbase releases a new console with more power than both of the competition yet limps to the finish line every month in sales...? your rebudle...? didn't think so...

WTF is a rebudle?

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#53 colmusterd28
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[QUOTE="colmusterd28"]

[QUOTE="King_of_Sorrow"]How is it a system that has been out for 2 years and has sold less than a system that's been out for 1 year not consider that console a failure?Udsen

How is it that a company with a 100+ million user fanbase releases a new console with more power than both of the competition yet limps to the finish line every month in sales...? your rebudle...? didn't think so...

WTF is a rebudle?

comeback... last word...

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#54 dream431ca
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[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Development is top notch for the PS3. I would have to say marketing is the worst. Although it's getting better.

And this "JUST WAIT" nonsense is pretty ignorant. Lemmings should hope that "JUST WAIT" never goes away because this "JUST WAIT" thing is going to be gone really soon. Your setting yourself up Lemmings.

colmusterd28

Development was in reference to the console itself... ie. bluray, cell processor... new unproven tech that drives prices up...

399.99?? For a Bluray player, that is dirt cheap. Unproven tech? How is it unproven? Bluray is doing very well, and The Cell processor is a very successful processor. It's being used in super computers around the world. I think the development is better than any other console this generation. It's the most high tech, the most risky (even though it's the most risky it's doing very well) and the PS3 is the ultimate multimedia device. Developement is not the issue, however, the marketing is.

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#55 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="gamenux"]

here is another list of PS3 biggest failures:

1. Having free online playgamenux

How is this a failure? It's the industry standard.

It is not an industry standard. Last I check, LIVE is still charging a monthly fee.

Last I check, LIVE did not start online gaming.

And yeah, I didn't realize the thing I originally quoted was a joke.

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#56 Darthmatt
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Development. They should have used a multi core CPU instead of the radically different cell.
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#57 ANti_RiCeR
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[QUOTE="gamenux"]Having UT3 has a timed exclusive

100Gamer

UT3 isnt timed exclusive. get over it cows, it's getting really pathetic

he was joking...........

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#58 lhughey
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Development - Sony should have provided Devs with better development tools so that almost every PS3 game wouldnt be delayed. Many devs have said that the PS3's dev kit is clumbsy and makes development expensive and time consuming.
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#59 Warfust
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It has to be marketing. Granted, you can do it worse.
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#60 fanboy999
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They released it way expensive with no good games. What do you expect? They should have released it this year at $399 with decent games. They could easily have ridden on the PS2 sales for another season. But they had to push Blu-ray and the PS3 on us. They want to control the movie industry, gaming industry, and one day...THE WORLD! They are greedy and that's why they fail. Greed and failure go hand and hand. I probably would have bought one by now if I didn't already have so much invested in my 360 and Wii. 3 systems would be too much. And Sony was too expensive for too long. Especially at $60 a game and $30 a Blu-ray movie. I'll take cheap-ass dvds any day.
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#61 NWA_31
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They definitely underestimated the competition. The X360 and Wii kick some serious ass. It was a mistake to think they could win with pratically no games and a $600 price tag.
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#62 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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We all know now that Sony has botched just about every second of the PS3's existance... which is more to blame...

1. Development--- The overloading of so called "cutting edge" unproven technlogy which has given the unit an incredibly unrealistic price tag, unless you want to give things up. As well as making the console incredibly hard to program for.

2. Marketing--- The most god aweful comercials and ads, maybe ever, along with poor promotion of their few half way decent exclusives.

3. Underestimating the competition.....

colmusterd28

I would say development. While it sounds awesome on paper to have the cell and all the bundled features and BR...Sony should have known that selling a console for $500 or $600 is just stupid and people wouldn't support it. Even when MS launched at $399 it was a risky move and is probably the reason the 360 hasn't exploded the way it should have (up until recently it has only sold the same as original Xbox).

Sony should have understood the risks of launching a console at roughly double what the competition is at, and significantly more than people are used to. Even now, with a $399 model, people are more willing to pay $399 but it still is a barrier as I think most customers won't jump in until we see a more reasonable $299 price tag. Even devs and publishers are saying prices have to drop much faster for the 360 and PS3 to get better customer adoption.

I don't think we'll see the true winner between the 360 and PS3 until they drop to the $299 price. Right now the audience is still mostly hardcore gamers, rich casuals, and hardware nerds who are early adopters.

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#63 devil_1994
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that would have to be Underestimating the competition
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#64 l3erserker
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im thinking...

mgs4. ps3's biggest failure is keeping mgs4 excusive.

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:lol: too bad

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#65 RIZDRAVER
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Almost all of the PS3 developers over at Beyond3D claim that the major failure of the PS3 was corporate politics.

They won't give specific details over the net. But Sony pushed aside MUCH better hardware when shopping for a GPU due to corporate politics. Their refusal to bid with MS and keep their exclusives all came down to corporate politics. And the confusion of making the PS brand become more focused on being an expensive media player all came down to the same thing: a giant board of Japanese business men with little knowledge about game developement all compromising resulting in a poorly executed plan for the PS3.

As the years go on, a lot of information on the frustrations and internal fighting that went on during the PS3's developement will start to be leaked. A little already has with a handful of devs sharing as much information as they can while holding onto their NDA. But I think it's fair to say that most even at Sony were far from 100% pleased with how the PS3 turned out.

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#66 Gamerboi27
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They definitely underestimated the competition. The X360 and Wii kick some serious ass. It was a mistake to think they could win with pratically no games and a $600 price tag.NWA_31

having no games? the ps3 came out a year ago, xbox didnt have jack at the time either...also 600 price tag? u live in a cave or something its now 399 WITH bluray player and 40gb hdd

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#67 Donkey_Puncher
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um....how about the games.

I system will sell no matter the price point if it offers something great to play. The PS3 just doesn't offer anything close to the competition.

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#68 Gamerboi27
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um....how about the games.

I system will sell no matter the price point if it offers something great to play. The PS3 just doesn't offer anything close to the competition.

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have u played ...ut3, resistance, motorstorm, uncharted, R&C, warhawk ?

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#69 HAZE-Unit
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I think the biggest mistake was the weak launch titles, the games launched with PS3 was not what everybody expected, I didn't even imagine that the first game I would be playing was Resistance, I was anticapting what they showed in E3 2005 and E3 2006, if Eight days for example was a launch title, plus HAZE with Tekken 6 and two RPGs, wow, that's a big launch for a console, but they didn't, that's why alot of people are waiting for the big guns to come.