PS3's comeback attempt has FAILED..... PS3 is in BIG TROUBLE

Lair? Warhawk? Heavenly Sword? the PS3 price drop?

Even I started to believe a little bit of the hype, but as it turns out, the PS3 still cant even pass the 360 in monthly NA sales (which doesnt bode well when considering Halo 3 is coming out in Sept, and the the 360 is getting a price drop of its own) but worst of all, PS3's exclusives are flopping left right and center. What's more, the Wii is absolutley freakin crushing everything in sight.

The 360 and the Wii are getting big games this Christmas that are gauranteed to deliver huge sales (Halo 3, Bioshock, Mass Effect, Galaxy, Brawl, MP3) and big scores. I don't think it's wise to put the same faith in Sony's offerings at this point.

Just like Sony though.... overhyping and under-delivering....

as usual.

Well thank god I have all three.:|

I can't play MGS4 on 360 now or can I ? :twisted:

Sad but true. Oh well for Sony sheeple! I dont like Sony much anyway.....

360 All Day

Lair? Warhawk? Heavenly Sword? the PS3 price drop?

Even I started to believe a little bit of the hype, but as it turns out, the PS3 still cant even pass the 360 in monthly NA sales (which doesnt bode well when considering Halo 3 is coming out in Sept, and the the 360 is getting a price drop of its own) but worst of all, PS3's exclusives are flopping left right and center. What's more, the Wii is absolutley freakin crushing everything in sight.

The 360 and the Wii are getting big games this Christmas that are gauranteed to deliver huge sales (Halo 3, Bioshock, Mass Effect, Galaxy, Brawl, MP3) and big scores. I don't think it's wise to put the same faith in Sony's offerings at this point.

Just like Sony though.... overhyping and under-delivering....

as usual.

jedigemini

NO game isnt a flop until reviewed by GS. and its funny how you forgot R&C and Drakes unfortune into your "flop" list....

Lair? Warhawk? Heavenly Sword? the PS3 price drop?

Even I started to believe a little bit of the hype, but as it turns out, the PS3 still cant even pass the 360 in monthly NA sales (which doesnt bode well when considering Halo 3 is coming out in Sept, and the the 360 is getting a price drop of its own) but worst of all, PS3's exclusives are flopping left right and center. What's more, the Wii is absolutley freakin crushing everything in sight.

The 360 and the Wii are getting big games this Christmas that are gauranteed to deliver huge sales (Halo 3, Bioshock, Mass Effect, Galaxy, Brawl, MP3) and big scores. I don't think it's wise to put the same faith in Sony's offerings at this point.

Just like Sony though.... overhyping and under-delivering....

as usual.

jedigemini

Call me strange, but those games you mentioned didn't excite me in the slightest. Maybe because I dont like shooters much and I lost faith in Ninkiddy back in the N64 disaster. Sorry Fanboyee!

[QUOTE="jedigemini"]

Lair? Warhawk? Heavenly Sword? the PS3 price drop?

Even I started to believe a little bit of the hype, but as it turns out, the PS3 still cant even pass the 360 in monthly NA sales (which doesnt bode well when considering Halo 3 is coming out in Sept, and the the 360 is getting a price drop of its own) but worst of all, PS3's exclusives are flopping left right and center. What's more, the Wii is absolutley freakin crushing everything in sight.

The 360 and the Wii are getting big games this Christmas that are gauranteed to deliver huge sales (Halo 3, Bioshock, Mass Effect, Galaxy, Brawl, MP3) and big scores. I don't think it's wise to put the same faith in Sony's offerings at this point.

Just like Sony though.... overhyping and under-delivering....

as usual.

megaton3k

Call me strange, but those games you mentioned didn't excite me in the slightest. Maybe because I dont like shooters much and I lost faith in Ninkiddy back in the N64 disaster. Sorry Fanboyee!

non shooter 360 games coming out this year(all exclusive)

mass effect

ace combat six

naruto rise of a ninja

blue dragon

eternal sonata

lost odyssey

viva pinata: party animals

scene it

PGR4

Also on PC but not on ps3:

world in confilict.

good enough for you?

Honestly, I'm incredibly disappointed. Phil Harrison failed me in a big way. The first party titles were supposed to rush in and saturate the market in gaming goodness. That's literally Phil Harrison's obligation. He screwed up with Motorstorm, Genji, Warhawk, and Heavenly Sword.

Although Lair isn't under his jurisdiction, it's failure is well noted by people skeptical of the Playstation 3. Literally, Phil Harrison's failure notes a seriously marked drop in interest in the Playstation 3.

In reality, I'm expecting the only decent first party titles coming out of Sony studios to be from the top tier, such as Corey Barlog, Insomniac, Sucker Punch, Media Molecule, and Naughty Dog. Guerilla is a possibility, but it's primarily based on how much they've changed.

I'm extremely upset to learn how short all of these games are and how light they are on gameplay, regardless of their absolutely movie-busting production values. Heavenly Sword's got it in spades, but what the hell, where did the gameplay go? I'm just mind-numbingly irritated right now.

Then again, if Warhawk scores 8.5 or above, I'll restore some semblance of faith in these folks. Echochrome looks fantastic but it's not what people are looking for on PS3 (superb downloadable titles are a plus, and even bad ones aren't a minus...but little spruced up PC casual games with high particle counts and enhanced physics don't sell consoles).

The only game that I can say I have an extreme amount of faith in, knowing the developers and having played Resistance: Fall of Man, is Ratchet and Clank Future: ToD.

We'll see how it goes, but TC speaks the truth. Far too much floppage, far too much insanity as far as region-locked price drops.

idc PS3 owns 08 so w/e, and its not like im not gonna have no gamesto play 4 me PS3 this year, i'll be buying Warhawk, Haze, COD4, BiA: HH, and maybe unchartedtherealmcc0y

I love how people say SONY OWNZ 08, just because of metal gear and FF. Time travel is fun isn't it?

[QUOTE="therealmcc0y"]idc PS3 owns 08 so w/e, and its not like im not gonna have no gamesto play 4 me PS3 this year, i'll be buying Warhawk, Haze, COD4, BiA: HH, and maybe unchartedgoodlay

I love how people say SONY OWNZ 08, just because of metal gear and FF. Time travel is fun isn't it?

does no one else remember how cows said last year they owned 07 with MGS4? kinda funny how that turned out, dint learn their lesson.

[QUOTE="megaton3k"][QUOTE="jedigemini"]

Lair? Warhawk? Heavenly Sword? the PS3 price drop?

Even I started to believe a little bit of the hype, but as it turns out, the PS3 still cant even pass the 360 in monthly NA sales (which doesnt bode well when considering Halo 3 is coming out in Sept, and the the 360 is getting a price drop of its own) but worst of all, PS3's exclusives are flopping left right and center. What's more, the Wii is absolutley freakin crushing everything in sight.

The 360 and the Wii are getting big games this Christmas that are gauranteed to deliver huge sales (Halo 3, Bioshock, Mass Effect, Galaxy, Brawl, MP3) and big scores. I don't think it's wise to put the same faith in Sony's offerings at this point.

Just like Sony though.... overhyping and under-delivering....

as usual.

Tactis

Call me strange, but those games you mentioned didn't excite me in the slightest. Maybe because I dont like shooters much and I lost faith in Ninkiddy back in the N64 disaster. Sorry Fanboyee!

non shooter 360 games coming out this year(all exclusive)

mass effect

ace combat six

naruto rise of a ninja

blue dragon

eternal sonata

lost odyssey

viva pinata: party animals

scene it

PGR4

Also on PC but not on ps3:

world in confilict.

good enough for you?

Please don't tell me you're actually interested in Viva Pinata: Party Animals and Scene It. Please don't tell me that's the case.

If I'm not going to act like Lair and Heavenly Sword are going to be GotY genre breakthroughs, please don't act like trash such as Scene it and VP: PA (not dev'd by Rare BTW) are going to make it anywhere. And the IGN Blue Dragon review just about killed the game for me, even if Sakaguchi does have some magic left. LO has a chance to be extremely good, and the guy still comes from an excellent pedigree.

Naruto....okay, put it this way: if it was on PS3, I would ignore it, I wouldn't care how good it was. Stick to the shooters, dude, they're mostly good on the Xbox 360.

Xbox 360 has some good system sellers this year and the ps3 dontSeckzy_Gamer

Potentially, Ratchet and Uncharted are two extremely heavy hitters. I put them above any game coming out this year, besides perhaps Crysis and Mass Effect.

Lair? Warhawk? Heavenly Sword? the PS3 price drop?

Even I started to believe a little bit of the hype, but as it turns out, the PS3 still cant even pass the 360 in monthly NA sales (which doesnt bode well when considering Halo 3 is coming out in Sept, and the the 360 is getting a price drop of its own) but worst of all, PS3's exclusives are flopping left right and center. What's more, the Wii is absolutley freakin crushing everything in sight.

The 360 and the Wii are getting big games this Christmas that are gauranteed to deliver huge sales (Halo 3, Bioshock, Mass Effect, Galaxy, Brawl, MP3) and big scores. I don't think it's wise to put the same faith in Sony's offerings at this point.

Just like Sony though.... overhyping and under-delivering....

as usual.

jedigemini

Link to GS review of a recently flopped exclusive PS3 game?

Xbox 360 has some good system sellers this year and the ps3 dontSeckzy_Gamer

so R&C isnt a system seller?

Please don't tell me you're actually interested in Viva Pinata: Party Animals and Scene It. Please don't tell me that's the case.

If I'm not going to act like Lair and Heavenly Sword are going to be GotY genre breakthroughs, please don't act like trash such as Scene it and VP: PA (not dev'd by Rare BTW) are going to make it anywhere. And the IGN Blue Dragon review just about killed the game for me, even if Sakaguchi does have some magic left. LO has a chance to be extremely good, and the guy still comes from an excellent pedigree.

Naruto....okay, put it this way: if it was on PS3, I would ignore it, I wouldn't care how good it was. Stick to the shooters, dude, they're mostly good on the Xbox 360.

Redfingers

ummm... no i think viva pinata and scene are going to suck just like i think singstar is going to suck on the ps3 when its released doesnt matter it shows variety.

BTW you dint mention world in conflict, eternal sonata, PGR4, Ace combat six,and mass effect? thats at least5-6 games that you think are pretty good which is more than enough to say the 360 has something for everyone. I was trying to kill the perception that 360 only has shooters if that list isnt good enough for you than nothing is good enough for you.

I mean i am not saying you have to like every game but i am sure anyone who isn't a shooter fan can find at least 2-4 games that are interesting. For me i want all four rpgs(mass effect, blue dragon, eternal sonata, and lost odyssey) and ace combat six thats more than enough for my non-shooter side.

I often come across as a full fledged Lemming. And even though i have an X360 (i also have a PS2), i'm very level headed and a lil too mature to get caught up in the whole System Wars mindset.

Now that i've given a disclaimer...

I'm very surprised in the early reviews of the games coming out for the games that were poised to give the PS3 a holiday boost. There is obviously something going on. There is no way that this many developers are "not talented enough" to develop for the PS3. I'm a developer by profession, and anyone who is not intelligent enough will get weeded out of this industry pretty quickly.

this fact causes me draw my attention to Sony. It sounds like Sony needs to take a good hard look at their development tools and API.

That being said, I think UT3 is going to keep the PS3 afloat this winter. Epic knows how to make great games. Rachet will also be an interesting game, i think. And when is SOCOM going to be released. That game will attract a TON of gamers (if they werent turned off by SOCOM3).

You make me laugh. Warhawk has gotten good reviews so far. PSM is **** because every other review has given it an 8 or above. AA so far. Lair sucks because people don't like the controls because they don't have an open mind. Kotaku played the demo (check Kotaku.com, it's at first page right now) and they loved Lair and said it's a buy. Heavenly Sword has everything great, but the length of the game. The combat system is great if you ask me. It's addicting. PS3 price drop rose the sales 63%. What I don't like is a fanboy with no facts.

ratchet & clank is the ps3's biggest killer app for the holiday season

which means that sales-wise, the ps3 is in DEEP trouble......because its going against two of the biggest killer app franchises in the video game market - halo and super smash bros....against those two, ratchet and clank doesn't stand a chance

[QUOTE="Seckzy_Gamer"]Xbox 360 has some good system sellers this year and the ps3 dontnba532002

so R&C isnt a system seller?

Exactly. No one bothers to look at the lineup, they just flame every game. Whatever makes them feel better I guess :lol:

Well the ps3 still sells more than 360 for the time being.

Plus PS2 has a massive install base so im sure alot of people are going for ps3 when they are done with their ps2's. My self included.

[QUOTE="nba532002"]

[QUOTE="Seckzy_Gamer"]Xbox 360 has some good system sellers this year and the ps3 dontAlbanian_Killa

so R&C isnt a system seller?

Exactly. No one bothers to look at the lineup, they just flame every game. Whatever makes them feel better I guess :lol:

its really not

less than 3% of the PS2's user base own the original ratched & clank

face the facts: althought the ratchet & clank franchise is quality, its NOT a system selling franchise

ratchet & clank is the ps3's biggest killer app for the holiday season

whichmeans that sales-wise, the ps3 is in DEEP trouble......becasue its going against two of the biggest killer app franchisesin the video game market - halo and super smash bros....against those two, ratchet and clank doesn't stand a chance

JB730

UTIII (don't say PC because not all PCs are gaming rigs), HAZE, Warhawk, Heavenly Sword, Stranglehold Collector's Edition, Hot Shots Golf 5, Folklore, Ratchet and Clank, Singstar, Uncharted. Is that enough for a few months until 2008?

Honestly, I'm incredibly disappointed. Phil Harrison failed me in a big way. The first party titles were supposed to rush in and saturate the market in gaming goodness. That's literally Phil Harrison's obligation. He screwed up with Motorstorm, Genji, Warhawk, and Heavenly Sword.

Redfingers

it was apparent to anyone and everyone that these titles were horrible, it is understandable that Cows would hype these titles given the sparsity of the first year PS3 lineup but everyone has been pointing out that these games look mediocre since day one

Wait a bit, save some money and buy a PS3 next year. You'll have more than enough to keep you busy. don't rush into into like you see mindless fanboys do.

Did your parents get fired from Sony, or something?Teufelhuhn

Did your parents get fired from Nintendo?

PS3 price drop rose the sales 63%. What I don't like is a fanboy with no facts.Albanian_Killa

I agree, but i think it was a short term sales surge. This months sales will probably go back down.

[QUOTE="JB730"]

ratchet & clank is the ps3's biggest killer app for the holiday season

whichmeans that sales-wise, the ps3 is in DEEP trouble......becasue its going against two of the biggest killer app franchisesin the video game market - halo and super smash bros....against those two, ratchet and clank doesn't stand a chance

Albanian_Killa

UTIII (don't say PC because not all PCs are gaming rigs), HAZE, Warhawk, Heavenly Sword, Stranglehold Collector's Edition, Hot Shots Golf 5, Folklore, Ratchet and Clank, Singstar, Uncharted. Is that enough for a few months until 2008?

If you are hyping Hot Shots Golf and Singstar, you just need to stop..

[QUOTE="Seckzy_Gamer"]Xbox 360 has some good system sellers this year and the ps3 dontnba532002

so R&C isnt a system seller?

No it's not. It has never been.

[QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"][QUOTE="nba532002"]

[QUOTE="Seckzy_Gamer"]Xbox 360 has some good system sellers this year and the ps3 dontJB730

so R&C isnt a system seller?

Exactly. No one bothers to look at the lineup, they just flame every game. Whatever makes them feel better I guess :lol:

its really not

less than 3% of PS2 owner own the ratched & clank

face the facts: althought the ratchet & clank franchise is quality, itsNOT a system selling franchise

The system sellers come out early 2008. That's not far away, and if you look at my list above, there are tons of games that can hold a person until then. MGS4, and Killzone 2 are going to be the top system sellers.

Well the ps3 still sells more than 360 for the time being.

Plus PS2 has a massive install base so im sure alot of people are going for ps3 when they are done with their ps2's. My self included.

Pessu

The PS3 still sells more more than 360 where?

Honestly, I'm incredibly disappointed. Phil Harrison failed me in a big way. The first party titles were supposed to rush in and saturate the market in gaming goodness. That's literally Phil Harrison's obligation. He screwed up with Motorstorm, Genji, Warhawk, and Heavenly Sword.

Although Lair isn't under his jurisdiction, it's failure is well noted by people skeptical of the Playstation 3. Literally, Phil Harrison's failure notes a seriously marked drop in interest in the Playstation 3.

In reality, I'm expecting the only decent first party titles coming out of Sony studios to be from the top tier, such as Corey Barlog, Insomniac, Sucker Punch, Media Molecule, and Naughty Dog. Guerilla is a possibility, but it's primarily based on how much they've changed.

I'm extremely upset to learn how short all of these games are and how light they are on gameplay, regardless of their absolutely movie-busting production values. Heavenly Sword's got it in spades, but what the hell, where did the gameplay go? I'm just mind-numbingly irritated right now.

Then again, if Warhawk scores 8.5 or above, I'll restore some semblance of faith in these folks. Echochrome looks fantastic but it's not what people are looking for on PS3 (superb downloadable titles are a plus, and even bad ones aren't a minus...but little spruced up PC casual games with high particle counts and enhanced physics don't sell consoles).

The only game that I can say I have an extreme amount of faith in, knowing the developers and having played Resistance: Fall of Man, is Ratchet and Clank Future: ToD.

We'll see how it goes, but TC speaks the truth. Far too much floppage, far too much insanity as far as region-locked price drops.

Redfingers

Wow Red, an honest and candid post. Very nice. I agree for the most part.

[QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"][QUOTE="nba532002"]

[QUOTE="Seckzy_Gamer"]Xbox 360 has some good system sellers this year and the ps3 dontJB730

so R&C isnt a system seller?

Exactly. No one bothers to look at the lineup, they just flame every game. Whatever makes them feel better I guess :lol:

its really not

less than 3% of the PS2's user base own the original ratched & clank

face the facts: althought the ratchet & clank franchise is quality, its NOT a system selling franchise

heck i dont even have the original but i have others, i love the series..

[QUOTE="JB730"][QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"][QUOTE="nba532002"]

[QUOTE="Seckzy_Gamer"]Xbox 360 has some good system sellers this year and the ps3 dontAlbanian_Killa

so R&C isnt a system seller?

Exactly. No one bothers to look at the lineup, they just flame every game. Whatever makes them feel better I guess :lol:

its really not

less than 3% of PS2 owner own the ratched & clank

face the facts: althought the ratchet & clank franchise is quality, itsNOT a system selling franchise

The system sellers come out early 2008. That's not far away, and if you look at my list above, there are tons of games that can hold a person until then. MGS4, and Killzone 2 are going to be the top system sellers.

Killzone 1 sold less than 500k world wide. So how is KZ2 a system seller

[QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"][QUOTE="JB730"]

ratchet & clank is the ps3's biggest killer app for the holiday season

whichmeans that sales-wise, the ps3 is in DEEP trouble......becasue its going against two of the biggest killer app franchisesin the video game market - halo and super smash bros....against those two, ratchet and clank doesn't stand a chance

goodlay

UTIII (don't say PC because not all PCs are gaming rigs), HAZE, Warhawk, Heavenly Sword, Stranglehold Collector's Edition, Hot Shots Golf 5, Folklore, Ratchet and Clank, Singstar, Uncharted. Is that enough for a few months until 2008?

If you are hyping Hot Shots Golf and Singstar, you just need to stop..

Just like Guitar Hero, these are system sellers to casuals. Hot Shots Golf is a system seller in Japan for some people. I'm just stating potential good games, not games I hype.

[QUOTE="Pessu"]

Well the ps3 still sells more than 360 for the time being.

Plus PS2 has a massive install base so im sure alot of people are going for ps3 when they are done with their ps2's. My self included.

Yellow_Rose

The PS3 still sells more more than 360 where?

I think he's referring to the fact that the PS3 outsold the 360 worldwide in July.

[QUOTE="JB730"][QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"][QUOTE="nba532002"]

[QUOTE="Seckzy_Gamer"]Xbox 360 has some good system sellers this year and the ps3 dontnba532002

so R&C isnt a system seller?

Exactly. No one bothers to look at the lineup, they just flame every game. Whatever makes them feel better I guess :lol:

its really not

less than 3% of the PS2's user base own the original ratched & clank

face the facts: althought the ratchet & clank franchise is quality, its NOT a system selling franchise

heck i dont even have the original but i have others, i love the series..

But that doesn't make it a system seller now does it? ;)

[QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"][QUOTE="JB730"][QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"][QUOTE="nba532002"]

[QUOTE="Seckzy_Gamer"]Xbox 360 has some good system sellers this year and the ps3 dontYellow_Rose

so R&C isnt a system seller?

Exactly. No one bothers to look at the lineup, they just flame every game. Whatever makes them feel better I guess :lol:

its really not

less than 3% of PS2 owner own the ratched & clank

face the facts: althought the ratchet & clank franchise is quality, itsNOT a system selling franchise

The system sellers come out early 2008. That's not far away, and if you look at my list above, there are tons of games that can hold a person until then. MGS4, and Killzone 2 are going to be the top system sellers.

Killzone 1 sold less than 500k world wide. So how is KZ2 a system seller

I didn't buy Killzone 1 and am getting Killzone 2. There are millions of people like me, and I know tons of people who are dieing to play the game and some don't own PS3s.

[QUOTE="goodlay"][QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"][QUOTE="JB730"]

ratchet & clank is the ps3's biggest killer app for the holiday season

whichmeans that sales-wise, the ps3 is in DEEP trouble......becasue its going against two of the biggest killer app franchisesin the video game market - halo and super smash bros....against those two, ratchet and clank doesn't stand a chance

Albanian_Killa

UTIII (don't say PC because not all PCs are gaming rigs), HAZE, Warhawk, Heavenly Sword, Stranglehold Collector's Edition, Hot Shots Golf 5, Folklore, Ratchet and Clank, Singstar, Uncharted. Is that enough for a few months until 2008?

If you are hyping Hot Shots Golf and Singstar, you just need to stop..

Just like Guitar Hero, these are system sellers to casuals. Hot Shots Golf is a system seller in Japan for some people. I'm just stating potential good games, not games I hype.

Well I can play that game too, and just list all of the Wii and 360 games that I think may be good.

[QUOTE="JB730"]

ratchet & clank is the ps3's biggest killer app for the holiday season

whichmeans that sales-wise, the ps3 is in DEEP trouble......becasue its going against two of the biggest killer app franchisesin the video game market - halo and super smash bros....against those two, ratchet and clank doesn't stand a chance

Albanian_Killa

UTIII (don't say PC because not all PCs are gaming rigs), HAZE, Warhawk, Heavenly Sword, Stranglehold Collector's Edition, Hot Shots Golf 5, Folklore, Ratchet and Clank, Singstar, Uncharted. Is that enough for a few months until 2008?

yes, i will say PC forUTIII....because UT III is also available on the PC and will sell more copies on the PC....meaning that it won't be a PS3 killer app

the rest don't stand a chance when pitted against SSB and halo

Lair? Warhawk? Heavenly Sword? the PS3 price drop?

Even I started to believe a little bit of the hype, but as it turns out, the PS3 still cant even pass the 360 in monthly NA sales (which doesnt bode well when considering Halo 3 is coming out in Sept, and the the 360 is getting a price drop of its own) but worst of all, PS3's exclusives are flopping left right and center. What's more, the Wii is absolutley freakin crushing everything in sight.

The 360 and the Wii are getting big games this Christmas that are gauranteed to deliver huge sales (Halo 3, Bioshock, Mass Effect, Galaxy, Brawl, MP3) and big scores. I don't think it's wise to put the same faith in Sony's offerings at this point.

Just like Sony though.... overhyping and under-delivering....

as usual.

jedigemini

You win the price for fanboy#1 at GS. Trying to take a jab against Sony as soon as he gets the chance. PS3 sold better than 360 worldwide. Warhawk has so far gotten AA wich it was hyped and Lair and HS might not have been AAA but they're still looking very promising. If I were you I would worry more about outdated hardware,controlls that are fad and weak third-party.

[QUOTE="nba532002"][QUOTE="JB730"][QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"][QUOTE="nba532002"]

[QUOTE="Seckzy_Gamer"]Xbox 360 has some good system sellers this year and the ps3 dontYellow_Rose

so R&C isnt a system seller?

Exactly. No one bothers to look at the lineup, they just flame every game. Whatever makes them feel better I guess :lol:

its really not

less than 3% of the PS2's user base own the original ratched & clank

face the facts: althought the ratchet & clank franchise is quality, its NOT a system selling franchise

heck i dont even have the original but i have others, i love the series..

But that doesn't make it a system seller now does it? ;)

what makes you think that its not? alot of people loved the series from ps2, what makes you think that they wont buy a ps3 for R&C?

if anything the 360 is intouble with MS spending billions and still making 0 profit.

atleast sony is stillmaking money with ps2 and psp

[QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"][QUOTE="JB730"]

ratchet & clank is the ps3's biggest killer app for the holiday season

whichmeans that sales-wise, the ps3 is in DEEP trouble......becasue its going against two of the biggest killer app franchisesin the video game market - halo and super smash bros....against those two, ratchet and clank doesn't stand a chance

JB730

UTIII (don't say PC because not all PCs are gaming rigs), HAZE, Warhawk, Heavenly Sword, Stranglehold Collector's Edition, Hot Shots Golf 5, Folklore, Ratchet and Clank, Singstar, Uncharted. Is that enough for a few months until 2008?

yes, i will say PC forUTIII....because UT III is also available on the PC and will sell more copies on the PC....meaning that it won't be a PS3 killer app

the rest don't stand a chance when pitted against SSB and halo

Those were titles that will hold people until the real system sellersarrive. Man, you people don't read?

I didn't buy Killzone 1 and am getting Killzone 2. There are millions of people like me, and I know tons of people who are dieing to play the game and some don't own PS3s.

Albanian_Killa

That doesn't make sense. How can there be "millions" of people like you if (again) Killzone 1 sold less than 500k world wide.

[QUOTE="Redfingers"]

Please don't tell me you're actually interested in Viva Pinata: Party Animals and Scene It. Please don't tell me that's the case.

If I'm not going to act like Lair and Heavenly Sword are going to be GotY genre breakthroughs, please don't act like trash such as Scene it and VP: PA (not dev'd by Rare BTW) are going to make it anywhere. And the IGN Blue Dragon review just about killed the game for me, even if Sakaguchi does have some magic left. LO has a chance to be extremely good, and the guy still comes from an excellent pedigree.

Naruto....okay, put it this way: if it was on PS3, I would ignore it, I wouldn't care how good it was. Stick to the shooters, dude, they're mostly good on the Xbox 360.

Tactis

ummm... no i think viva pinata and scene are going to suck just like i think singstar is going to suck on the ps3 when its released doesnt matter it shows variety.

BTW you dint mention world in conflict, eternal sonata, PGR4, Ace combat six,and mass effect? thats at least5-6 games that you think are pretty good which is more than enough to say the 360 has something for everyone. I was trying to kill the perception that 360 only has shooters if that list isnt good enough for you than nothing is good enough for you.

I mean i am not saying you have to like every game but i am sure anyone who isn't a shooter fan can find at least 2-4 games that are interesting. For me i want all four rpgs(mass effect, blue dragon, eternal sonata, and lost odyssey) and ace combat six thats more than enough for my non-shooter side.

if anything the 360 is intouble with MS spending billions and still making 0 profit.

atleast sony is stillmaking money with ps2 and psp

niall077

Which the losses from the PS3 are totally negating ;)

[QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"]

I didn't buy Killzone 1 and am getting Killzone 2. There are millions of people like me, and I know tons of people who are dieing to play the game and some don't own PS3s.

Yellow_Rose

That doesn't make sense. How can there be "millions" of people like you if (again) Killzone 1 sold less than 500k world wide.

You need to read what he wrote. He said he DIDN'T buy Killzone 1.

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"]

I didn't buy Killzone 1 and am getting Killzone 2. There are millions of people like me, and I know tons of people who are dieing to play the game and some don't own PS3s.

ramey70

That doesn't make sense. How can there be "millions" of people like you if (again) Killzone 1 sold less than 500k world wide.

You need to read what he wrote. He said he DIDN'T buy Killzone 1.

:lol: I'm starting to think half the people here can't read lol