PS4 Actually Only Comes With 408GB of HDD Space

@Shottayouth13-: Unfortunately, nope. The only way you can expand storage is with a screwdriver and a 2.5 HDD.

Linus explains it.

Yeah. This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

He says in the comments that the 408GB is AFTER he installed the games, not before.

No, it came with three preinstalled 'games,' like The Playroom

Hard drives always work that way.

Still, the 408GBs is with the games installed.

Is this a real thread for 2013?

Someone that owned a HDD on Xbox, PS2, PC, 360, PS3, or paid attention to the Wii U sizes over the last decade may be aware of how HDDs work by now.

In fact, if you had a ZUNE, ipod, or even ipad...you may have noticed this "space is missing ohnoez dilemma", lol.

+1 for lulz.

Hard drives, laptops, tablets, smartphones, iphones... All have some space taken for some apps and installed software.
Common sense.

Wii:U says 32gb and is actually 25gb.. with more updates, its going to get less.

No, you have to buy a whole new HDD. This is why I want to get a 1TB 7200rpm Sata Drive for mine.

looks like you can export/backup data to a USB device

http://imgur.com/fqoZOhu

Playing a game from an external hdd was never a good idea IMO. Getting an internal hdd upgrade for the ps4 for sure

Can you give a link for a 1TB 7200rpm drive ? The largest I can find is 750GB.

You can also transfer videos to a USB device if you need to upload it to youtube for example.

3 games installed, KZ:SF , COD and Madden.. all Massive games... this is unsurprising and such a misleading OP

Goddammit, Sony.

my mistake its 50. just got the game in today. wth bf4 it would be 100 gigs of space to play them on the ps4

Games that were already on the PS4 when he bought it. Not games that he himself installed. Understand?

@charizard1605 said:

The stock drive is 500GB.

https://twitter.com/cjcool804/status/400315951520165888

323GB free + 84GB games + 100MB other = 408GB.

Applications is only the three games. Nothing else installed/deletable.

https://twitter.com/cjcool804/status/400316029995581440

As others have pointed out, 500GB is a marketing number. The OS sees GB (and MB, KB) in chunks of 1024 compared to a straight 1000 multiplier. e.g. 1GB = 1024MB, not 1000MB as marketing reports.

Thus, 500GB /(1.024^3) = 465 "real" GB.

1.024 is the ratio factor which is cubed because it's used three times: Bytes in KB (1024 vs 1000), KB in MB (1024 vs 1000), and MB in GB (1024 vs 1000).

That means 465 - 408GB leaves 57GB reserved on the drive. Not all of that may necessarily be occupied. There is likely a swap partition, the OS, reserved space for game clip sharing, etc.

Not that it's a big deal at all (408GB is more than enough to begin with, plus you can always expand storage), but I remember how cows made a big deal about how the space available with the Wii U was not as much as advertised. I wonder if we'll see them call Sony out on the same issue now, or if we'll see their legendary hypocrisy in full force again.

I have always planned to upgrade my PS4s with the 2 TB Western Digital or Seagate any way.

They probably reserve 50 gigs in a hidden partition for "factory reset"

The rest of the discrepency is down to technical details of how a gigabyte is calculated.

And in other news, water is wet.

I hear if you throw a SSD in there you get improved loading times. :)

@charizard1605: You make me laugh, dude. you know there isn't going to be any "calling out" of Sony.

Sure.

http://www.amazon.com/HGST-Travelstar-2-5-Inch-7200RPM-Internal/dp/B0097LG9U8

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145875

Does changing the hdd void warranty?

I guess i'll be waiting for that 2 Terabyte version then :P

57GB reserved for future DRM.

He said the 408GB was AFTER he installed the games. Understand?

They never said it would come with 500gb of free space, they said it would come with a 500gb hard drive, which it does. I don't understand the point of this thread, unless you just want to get off on trying to dramatically skew something so you can try and make sony look bad.

Every single HDD you buy is going to do this. My 1Tb drive says it holds 931gb

Cool, thanks. It's cheaper than the one I was looking at as well.

well the wii u has like what a 20 or 30gb hdd? and it was actually less...i think the deal was not the advertised part, but more the low hdd space...

so i dont get where you are going with this