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#1  Edited By Skelly34
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As system war's most unbiased and fair manticore. I felt it my solemn duty to keep SW updated on the state of eight generation consoles, the PS4 and Xbox1. And I say this impartially, with the least amount of bias as humanly possible, that generation 8 consoles are "fat stinky plastic paper weights" with "literally no games imo."

Now, now SW, I have to say, I have not been entirely truthful with that statement or the title. PS4 and X1 actually DO have one game each of their own, the two of which I am sure you are all aware of by now. No, my SW pals, by "no games" I mean: "No games that aren't remasters, infinitely better on PC, timed exclusives or are not complete shit like Driveclub."

Teh sourcez: Onlyonconsoles

-Large boxes: games that are not multiplats, timed exclusives, digital only or remasters.

-Smaller boxes, games that are not out yet.

Keep in mind that these games are not even filtered for quality. If games with a metascore less than 80 were filtered out, each console would only have about one, maybe two games.

Why now, at the point where console exclusives matter now more than ever, as they face the definitive-multiplat-collecting, leviathan, powerhouse that is PC, are the PS4 and X1 libraries so abysmal? Why god, why? How many years do you think it will take for 8th gen consoles to finally obtain the one and only positive trait a console in PC's time can possess? As in quality exclusive games on the bottom.

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#2 NoodleFighter
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Hey what about Let it Die, Drawn to Death, and The Tomorrow Children. I think Rime went multiplat cuz the Unreal Gamescom licensee show had PC, Mac, and XB1 listed.

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#3  Edited By jg4xchamp
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Bloodborne is a good game.

But yeah these consoles blow right now if you primarily game on PC.

As for why? It's simple. Microsoft didn't put enough stock in building an actual robust first party, and Sony's first party was never actually that good, in fact a lot of their first party studios suck. In Microsoft's case they have two "big" franchises in Halo and Gears, that are now being developed by someone other than the creators of said franchises.

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#4 Heil68
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I'm buried in world class, high scoring games now for PS4. I think it's over 350+ right now that you can currently play. By golly that's a root'n toot'n lot.

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#5  Edited By deactivated-58ce94803a170
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Yep, yep, yep, ill be sticking to my PC, Wii U, and 3DS this gen i think. I look forward to NX though.

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#6 isturbo1984
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What a shitty thread that portrays false information. Nice work conveniently not posting the Xbox One exclusives, lol. "Unbiased manticore," my ass.

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#7 doubalfa
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if they don't have games, what do I play with?

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#8 chikenfriedrice
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They both have a ton of games actually

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#9 aroxx_ab
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Oh i must have dreamt i got about 15 Ps4 games in the bookshelf

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#10  Edited By SolidTy
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"No games (on Xbone/PS4) that aren't remasters, infinitely better on PC, timed exclusives or are not complete shit like Driveclub"?

But Bloodborne (92/100 metacritic) is an exclusive PS4 game and it's critically rated by the majority of the world's critics as fantastic...

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I agree it's not the greatest start of a gaming generation for the big three imo (especially Xbone and PS4). Nintendo taking advantage of their year head-start and having delivered the most quality exclusives on their lower end hardware. Still, I expected more by now from all three if you spoke to a 2010 SolidTy on exclusive expectations of 2015.

That said, there are a lot of 3rd Party multiplat games available, especially on PS4.

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#11 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Nah, they have a load of games.

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I've been playing lots of games on my PS4 so eh

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#13  Edited By drinkerofjuice
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Are you sure? I could have sworn I was playing a game on the One just a few hours ago.

Then again, I play more than exclusives. I understand they may be important to each system, but there's no reason to dismiss a load of other games that are multiplats.

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#14  Edited By BassMan
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The less console exclusives, the better. I would rather play the PC version of games. It sucks playing good games that are ruined by weak consoles. I am looking at you BloodBorne. What a waste.

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#15 Mr_Huggles_dog
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I've played many games on my PS4 and enjoyed almost all of them.

Not sure where TC is coming from.

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Could've sworn Forza Horizon 2 existed.

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#17 blackace
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@chikenfriedrice said:

They both have a ton of games actually

Yes they do. Goes back to playing RARE Replay.

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#18  Edited By Pikminmaniac
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I feel like the only really big games for PS4 from the day it was launched until 2016 is Arkham Knight and Bloodborne. I'm interested in Mad Max though. That one might be a surprise.

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#19 chikenfriedrice
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@blackace said:
@chikenfriedrice said:

They both have a ton of games actually

Yes they do. Goes back to playing RARE Replay.

Still need to get that.

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@chikenfriedrice said:
@blackace said:
@chikenfriedrice said:

They both have a ton of games actually

Yes they do. Goes back to playing RARE Replay.

Still need to get that.

Amazing collection, got it 3 days early and love the **** out of it.

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#21  Edited By playharderfool
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your thread is a lie based on Bloodborne. How can you be a manticore and try to pretend that game doesn't exist just to try to make PS4 look the same as xb1? Bloodborne is 93 on MC and certified AAA by majority of the industry so your PS4 nomination doesn't work. Maybe you should change your title to x1 still has no games since that's the only one that fits your descritption here.

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#22 Ant_17
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The shelves in every store say otherwise.

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#23 chikenfriedrice
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@davem1992 said:
@chikenfriedrice said:
@blackace said:
@chikenfriedrice said:

They both have a ton of games actually

Yes they do. Goes back to playing RARE Replay.

Still need to get that.

Amazing collection, got it 3 days early and love the **** out of it.

Nice....so many games coming up. I need to try to add this to the list.

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#24 davem1992
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@chikenfriedrice said:
@davem1992 said:
@chikenfriedrice said:
@blackace said:
@chikenfriedrice said:

They both have a ton of games actually

Yes they do. Goes back to playing RARE Replay.

Still need to get that.

Amazing collection, got it 3 days early and love the **** out of it.

Nice....so many games coming up. I need to try to add this to the list.

Thankfully a store near me breaks release date alot, can get all the big games weeks early if I'm lucky.

So that's awesome.

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#25 ConanTheStoner
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Yeah, same old story. If you have a decent PC, these consoles have slim pickings.

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#26  Edited By The_Last_Ride
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@skelly34: i guess indies don't count...

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If you have a solid PC there's pretty much no need for a PS4/X1, as of right now. Maybe in 2016 they'll be worth it.

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#28  Edited By lostrib
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@ConanTheStoner said:

Yeah, same old story. If you have a decent PC, these consoles have slim pickings.

Yep, still waiting for something worthwhile

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#29  Edited By Skelly34
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@SolidTy said:

"No games (on Xbone/PS4) that aren't remasters, infinitely better on PC, timed exclusives or are not complete shit like Driveclub"?

But Bloodborne (92/100 metacritic) is an exclusive PS4 game and it's critically rated by the majority of the world's critics as fantastic...

I know.

From OP:

Now, now SW, I have to say, I have not been entirely truthful with that statement or the title. PS4 and X1 actually DO have one game each of their own, the two of which I am sure you are all aware of by now.

Was referring to:

Bloodborne - PS4

Sunset Overdrive - X1

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#30 John_of_Rivia
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I don't buy into the whole "consoles have no games" bs right now. Each one offers games that are multiplat and exclusive. Are all of them quality? Nope, absolutely not. However, there's a big difference between having no games and not having games worth having.

Personally, I need 4 games out of an entire year to see myself through: 1 game that's focused a lot on multiplayer (Cod, Halo, Gears), 1 game for the story (Halo, Read Dead Redemption), 1 really good single player game that's generally hard/challenging or fun (such as Bloodborne or TW3, although I don't own a PS4), and 1 huge RPG to not only pass the time in, but to eventually purchase future DLCs (Fallout 4 or TW3.) Having all 4 is a good year, and so far I've gotten that handily. I've also taken to keeping a fighting game or sports game for college friends to play. Between work, college, and friends, this is all I need. Maybe I'm coming off as condescending, but there just seems to be such an oddly disproportionate amount of people asking for a console with 20 complete exclusives, knowing dang well they either won't have the a) money to actually get them all and purchase games afterwards and b) the time to play these games in their fullest.

This is my two cents anyway.

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#31 blueinheaven
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People who only game on PC are so terribly insecure. Maybe a sign of their own particular PC build? I'm guessing incredibly low PC specs, you know, the kind they had in that Steam chart which seems to be the one most PC gamers have.

I have a high end PC, PS4 and Xbox One so can't really identify with those financially challenged peasants clinging on to a low end PC and playing shit indie games thinking they are some kind of master race so I will just refrain from all comment as I am nice and don't want Skelly and his mates to be upset.

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#32 intotheminx
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They have tons of games, but lack high quality exclusives. Hopefully, that changes.

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#33  Edited By SolidTy
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@skelly34 said:
@SolidTy said:

"No games (on Xbone/PS4) that aren't remasters, infinitely better on PC, timed exclusives or are not complete shit like Driveclub"?

But Bloodborne (92/100 metacritic) is an exclusive PS4 game and it's critically rated by the majority of the world's critics as fantastic...

----

I agree it's not the greatest start of a gaming generation for the big three imo (especially Xbone and PS4). Nintendo taking advantage of their year head-start and having delivered the most quality exclusives on their lower end hardware. Still, I expected more by now from all three if you spoke to a 2010 SolidTy on exclusive expectations of 2015.

That said, there are a lot of 3rd Party multiplat games available, especially on PS4.

From OP:

Now, now SW, I have to say, I have not been entirely truthful with that statement or the title. PS4 and X1 actually DO have one game each of their own, the two of which I am sure you are all aware of by now.

Was referring to:

Bloodborne - PS4

Sunset Overdrive - X1

You weren't specific so I couldn't be sure what you meant with so many quality titles to choose from when you said, "One game each". I didn't realize you were comparing 92/100 metascoring Bloodborne with the much lower scoring 81/100 metascoring Sunset Overdrive.

TBH, in the realm of exclusives per system, the 80/100 metascoring Infamous Second Son is a sandbox game and is more in line for comparison when comparing the 81/100 metascoring Sunset Overdrive sandbox game (80 range B level exclusive title). I also wasn't sure you weren't referring to the 79/100 metacoring Forza 5 as "one" of the games each. It seemed all very subjective, so thanks for clarifying what you meant.

Top Tier 90+ MC games are level onto themselves and it's very, very hard to achieve like 93/100 metascoring Super Mario 3D World for instance. 343's Bonnie Ross has been making a huge, huge push to get one of 343's games at a 90+ MC like Bungie did with all their main Halo entries (Halo CE, Halo 2, Halo 3, and Halo Reach). So far, 343 hasn't done it yet (Halo 4 and Halo MCC).

I suppose I would make an argument that Sunset O and Infamous SS cancel each other out, both being exclusive, both being received by the majority of the world's critics at about the same level (low 80's; 80-81/100), and both being Sanboxish super hero type games.

In that sense, I would perhaps say both platforms have a few games each or maybe in your opinion the PS4 has two games and the Xbone has one game? I wasn't sure how you came about eliminating select exclusive quality titles in that sentence in your OP (PS4 and X1 actually DO have one game each of their own) when it's clear there are more than one.

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#34  Edited By Skelly34
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@SolidTy said:
@skelly34 said:
@SolidTy said:

"No games (on Xbone/PS4) that aren't remasters, infinitely better on PC, timed exclusives or are not complete shit like Driveclub"?

But Bloodborne (92/100 metacritic) is an exclusive PS4 game and it's critically rated by the majority of the world's critics as fantastic...

----

I agree it's not the greatest start of a gaming generation for the big three imo (especially Xbone and PS4). Nintendo taking advantage of their year head-start and having delivered the most quality exclusives on their lower end hardware. Still, I expected more by now from all three if you spoke to a 2010 SolidTy on exclusive expectations of 2015.

That said, there are a lot of 3rd Party multiplat games available, especially on PS4.

From OP:

Now, now SW, I have to say, I have not been entirely truthful with that statement or the title. PS4 and X1 actually DO have one game each of their own, the two of which I am sure you are all aware of by now.

Was referring to:

Bloodborne - PS4

Sunset Overdrive - X1

You weren't specific so I couldn't be sure what you meant with so many titles to choose from when you said, "One game each". I didn't realize you were comparing 92/100 metascoring Bloodborne with the much lower scoring 81/100 metascoring Sunset Overdrive/

TBH, in the realm of exclusives per system, the 80/100 metascoring Infamous Second Son is a sandbox game and is more of a 81/100 metascoring Sunset Overdrive caliber (80 range B level exclusive title) sandbox title to compare. I also wasn't sure you weren't referring to the 79/100 metacoring Forza 5.

Top Tier 90+ MC games are level onto themselves.

Including Sunset Overdrive twas an act of mercy to xboner. The arbitrary lowered threshold for X1 was <=81. I did this so:

1. Xbone could have at least one game.

2. I was too lazy to explain how PS4 had one game and X1 didn't

The true threshold is 90+ meaning:

PS4: 1

X1: 0

I didn't consider (and I doubt others consider) Sunset Overdrive, Forza 5 or Infamous: Second Son to be a top tier games like BB is. If games like that fit in the "criteria" both systems would have 2 games, but in reality it doesn't. That was the rationale behind that statement.

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#35  Edited By bunchanumbers
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Between Wii U and PC I am delighted with this generation. I even got a PS3 so now there isn't anything on PS4 or Xbox one that I am interested in at this point. I'm thinking that I'll do the same thing when NX comes out and ignore both of the twins. Lets be honest. Without multiplats both of them would be in serious trouble.

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Half of the OP is true.

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#37 Skelly34
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@bunchanumbers said:

Between Wii U and PC I am delighted with this generation. I even got a PS3 so now there isn't anything on PS4 or Xbox one that I am interested in at this point. I'm thinking that I'll do the same thing when NX comes out and ignore both of the twins. Lets be honest. Without multiplats both of them would be in serious trouble.

That's more or less what I am doing, but replace WiiU with a 3DS.

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#38 Legend002
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Kid think only exclusives are considered games. loll

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#39  Edited By SolidTy
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@skelly34 said:
@SolidTy said:
@skelly34 said:

From OP:

Was referring to:

Bloodborne - PS4

Sunset Overdrive - X1

You weren't specific so I couldn't be sure what you meant with so many quality titles to choose from when you said, "One game each". I didn't realize you were comparing 92/100 metascoring Bloodborne with the much lower scoring 81/100 metascoring Sunset Overdrive.

TBH, in the realm of exclusives per system, the 80/100 metascoring Infamous Second Son is a sandbox game and is more in line for comparison when comparing the 81/100 metascoring Sunset Overdrive sandbox game (80 range B level exclusive title). I also wasn't sure you weren't referring to the 79/100 metacoring Forza 5 as "one" of the games each. It seemed all very subjective, so thanks for clarifying what you meant.

Top Tier 90+ MC games are level onto themselves and it's very, very hard to achieve like 93/100 metascoring Super Mario 3D World for instance. 343's Bonnie Ross has been making a huge, huge push to get one of 343's games at a 90+ MC like Bungie did with all their main Halo entries (Halo CE, Halo 2, Halo 3, and Halo Reach). So far, 343 hasn't done it yet (Halo 4 and Halo MCC).

I suppose I would make an argument that Sunset O and Infamous SS cancel each other out, both being exclusive, both being received by the majority of the world's critics at about the same level (low 80's; 80-81/100), and both being Sanboxish super hero type games.

In that sense, I would perhaps say both platforms have a few games each or maybe in your opinion the PS4 has two games and the Xbone has one game? I wasn't sure how you came about eliminating select exclusive quality titles in that sentence in your OP (PS4 and X1 actually DO have one game each of their own) when it's clear there are more than one.

Including Sunset Overdrive twas an act of mercy to xboner. The arbitrary lowered threshold for X1 was <=81. The true threshold is and should have been 90+ meaning:

PS4: 1

X1: 0

I didn't consider (and I doubt others consider) Sunset Overdrive, Forza 5 or Infamous: Second Son to be a top tier games like BB is.

I gotcha.

Thanks for the explanation. I would also say that I agree that the majority of others probably do not consider Infamous, SO, or Forza 5 as a top tier games like say for example Super Mario 3D or Bloodborne are at 90+.

That said, I will reiterate that in terms of exclusives on the Xbone/PS4, it could and should be better definitely.

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#40  Edited By nameless123cc
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I have a gaming PC at the moment that plays Multi plats better than the current consoles no sweat. I have considered getting an xbone/ps4, but Bloodbourne is the only exclusive that appeals to me. Not an Uncharted or Halo fan either. also Not dishing out for 1 game sorry.

Guess I will end up grabbing a Wii U since it has loads of awesome exclusives and my 4 year old daughter loves Nintendo games also.

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#41  Edited By deactivated-5b883bb846c10
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@charizard1605 said:

Nah, they have a load of games.

Agreed. I dont know where the OP is getting at???? He missed loads of games for the PS4 and X1...

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#42 deactivated-5b883bb846c10
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Also where the heck is Rare Replay? MCC and Last of Us Remastered??? If you're solely talking exclusives...

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#43 PrincessGomez92
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My PS4 is literally just a NetflixStation.

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@doubalfa said:

if they don't have games, what do I play with?

Not CDs, believe it or not. lol. Really, PS4 does not know what a CD is.

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@Heirren:

Neither does my laptop hehe, I don't know what to do with all my floppy discs.

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#46 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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@doubalfa said:

@Heirren:

Neither does my laptop hehe, I don't know what to do with all my floppy discs.

When I buy music I still buy CD. Wiiu and PS4 are the only things I've got hooked up. Never thought I'd see the day where I'd have to go out and buy a dedicated CD player again.

***WiiU also doesn't recognize CD.

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#47 LJS9502_basic
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This shit again. A fair manticore would NOT make such a thread. Both consoles have games. A game does NOT have to be first party to be worth owning. Thread sucks.:

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#48 joel_c17
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Can i get a list of all these pc exclusive games that people are so enthralled with?

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It's true.

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#50 XboxStache
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Correction- Xbox One has NO Games.

All the so-called exclusives Xbox One has are coming to PS4 and PC. So, there's literally no reason to own an Xbox one. PS4 and Wii U have loads of games worth playing from Bayonetta 2 to BloodBorne, Knack, KZSF, GGXRD, CODBLOPS3, MGSVPP (after all, no one in their right mind would buy MGS for an Xbox. I'll even go as far as saying MGSVPP IS A SONY EXCLUSIVE).

Next year, Uncharted 4...that says it all.