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#51 rasengan2552
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[QUOTE="DrakesHaloGears"]b[QUOTE="phonemug"]Maybe since you don't know how to read a stock page straight print will better for you

http://techcrunch.com/2011/11/02/sony-forecasts-us1-15-billion-loss-for-this-fiscal-year/

phonemug

Exactly! And just as I thought, you cant answer simple questions or do what's asked of you! Its like you got this Microsoft paid poster routine down to a tee Groverslanding/Phonemug/Abonsabo. I guess its only natural that you follow in the footsteps of M$ the sleazy politicians! You are trying to do your best impersonation of M$ I see! But anyways, You can come back to us when you are ready to be a good poster for once, And when you are ready to brake down your own "links" for us, and tell us how it all means what you constantly say it does, Since you know.....you are the self proclaimed financial expert on all things Sony, seem to know the inner most workings of all their operations, and are the ..according to yourself - and your many alt accounts...the best Sony doom prophet in all of the forums !

You seem mentally disturbed. You got owned with a the link and now you're making a bunch of other crap up. At no point in your incoherent rambling did you even remotely stumble on anything with an ounce of truth. May god have mercy on your soul.

lmao.
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#52 ZombieKiller7
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So just to confirm

Do consolites care about graphics or not?

DrakesHaloGears

Of course. You have us there! And anybody denying it would be lying. But I've always said that if lemmings cared so much about superior multi plats then they should get the damn PC version. Because there actually is a noticeable difference bewtwen the PC version to the 360 version. Its a much MUCH bigger difference than the difference between the 360 and PS3 versions. The differences between the 360 and PS3 versions are so minimal and minuscule, that you'd be hard pressed to even find the differences

What of PC titles that folks can't get to run at all? Or that crash every 20 minutes?

Surely that's worse than having 3 less pixels on your character's left ear.

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#53 DrakesHaloGears
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[QUOTE="phonemug"]

[QUOTE="DrakesHaloGears"] Exactly! And just as I thought, you cant answer simple questions or do what's asked of you! Its like you got this Microsoft paid poster routine down to a tee Groverslanding/Phonemug/Abonsabo. I guess its only natural that you follow in the footsteps of M$ the sleazy politicians! You are trying to do your best impersonation of M$ I see! But anyways, You can come back to us when you are ready to be a good poster for once, And when you are ready to brake down your own "links" for us, and tell us how it all means what you constantly say it does, Since you know.....you are the self proclaimed financial expert on all things Sony, seem to know the inner most workings of all their operations, and are the ..according to yourself - and your many alt accounts...the best Sony doom prophet in all of the forums !rasengan2552

You seem mentally disturbed. You got owned with a the link and now you're making a bunch of other crap up. At no point in your incoherent rambling did you even remotely stumble on anything with an ounce of truth. May god have mercy on your soul.

lmao.

You are laughing at him, not with him right! Because that was beyond lame! Its like he re-worded that famous scene from Billy Madison, but took out all the awesome, and instead made it his own brand of mental retardation
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#54 soulitane
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[QUOTE="DrakesHaloGears"][QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="DrakesHaloGears"] What do you mean by "used for" Just curious? Surely, the PS3 cant produce that many polygons?

As far as I know the PS3 is more than capable of producing that many polygons, but for a single model that would be a complete waste. As explained by a user on here who is actually a graphics designer (or something like that), they render the original model using a program at with a lot more polygons than used in game. They then import that model into the game engine and scale it down so that it has less polygons. I'm pretty sure that's how it goes. 1 million polygons for a single character model in game would be a complete waste of resources.

That's interesting to know. Thanks:) But do you have a source that this is the case here? And why would it be a waist if the hardware were truly advanced enough to handel that and much more?

No I don't. Sorry if my numbers are a little off at this point but bare with me. On average I think UC2 had about 3million (I think this number might actually be for RE5 though I'm not sure) add or minus polygons per frame, drake was around 70k wasn't he? Now say the next PS is roughly 8x more powerful than the PS3, that's 24 million polygons per frame (it may not work this way but again bare with me). If a character model is 1million polygons, that's already taking up a lot of the polygons on screen, add more character models onto that say 6 and that's one quarter of the polygons on screen just for character models. If I got that wrong someone is welcome to correct me but it really doesn't seem feasible for them to use 1 million polygon models in game.
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#55 DrakesHaloGears
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[QUOTE="DrakesHaloGears"]b[QUOTE="phonemug"]Maybe since you don't know how to read a stock page straight print will better for you

http://techcrunch.com/2011/11/02/sony-forecasts-us1-15-billion-loss-for-this-fiscal-year/

phonemug

Exactly! And just as I thought, you cant answer simple questions or do what's asked of you! Its like you got this Microsoft paid poster routine down to a tee Groverslanding/Phonemug/Abonsabo. I guess its only natural that you follow in the footsteps of M$ the sleazy politicians! You are trying to do your best impersonation of M$ I see! But anyways, You can come back to us when you are ready to be a good poster for once, And when you are ready to brake down your own "links" for us, and tell us how it all means what you constantly say it does, Since you know.....you are the self proclaimed financial expert on all things Sony, seem to know the inner most workings of all their operations, and are the ..according to yourself - and your many alt accounts...the best Sony doom prophet in all of the forums !

You seem mentally disturbed. You got owned with a the link and now you're making a bunch of other crap up. At no point in your incoherent rambling did you even remotely stumble on anything with an ounce of truth. May god have mercy on your soul.

Damn, and just like I said not even more then a couple posts ago. "*waits for Phomemug/Groverslanding to start crying about cow conspiracys, and to then start furiously responding to me, and any one who disagrees with him, which would basically be every one, but other trolls, with name calling to the full extent of his nerd rage!" Was I right or what guys? lol go ahead and give me some bro fists guys! *reaches out fists to be bro fisted* But all thanks goes to you Abonsabo/Groverslanding for proving how right i was to a tee! You are proving how much of loser you truly are, with each and every one of your insane posts , and with each and every one of your many alt troll accounts, And with each passing day, you prove what a truly disturbed loser you are! We all know that you are the mentally deficient troll with alt troll account after alt troll account, so you of all people shouldnt be calling any one mentally disturbed. lol m'okay! You sir are projecting your issues on others. And along with your basement obsession of Sony that is not healthy. You are one mad and bitter man! And like typical, you are full of hot air/ garbage, just like M$ is. And, I would tell you the same too, "May God have mercy on your soul" but that still wouldn't be enough for you! God made a huge mistake when he allowed you to live. Your mom should've have swallowed you! But its funny that you STILL cant even answer to my questions or do what's asked! So chop chop , get to it now! Or run along-with your arms flailing, and drool coming out your mouth-like usual-and run your self out this thread! So again, one last time, i ask of you sir, HOW do those links PROVE your "there will be no PS4, Sony is in the doomz" doom prophet drivel? Seriously, We need to put you in a mental house, like with straigh jackets and everything. You are beyond nuts.
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#56 RyviusARC
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These constant next gen rumors are annoying.

waltefmoney
This happens at the end of every console generation though. Last gen was pretty bad too with 4D, 120fps, and 3 monitors.
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#57 DrakesHaloGears
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[QUOTE="DrakesHaloGears"][QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

So just to confirm

Do consolites care about graphics or not?

ZombieKiller7

Of course. You have us there! And anybody denying it would be lying. But I've always said that if lemmings cared so much about superior multi plats then they should get the damn PC version. Because there actually is a noticeable difference bewtwen the PC version to the 360 version. Its a much MUCH bigger difference than the difference between the 360 and PS3 versions. The differences between the 360 and PS3 versions are so minimal and minuscule, that you'd be hard pressed to even find the differences

What of PC titles that folks can't get to run at all? Or that crash every 20 minutes?

Surely that's worse than having 3 less pixels on your character's left ear.

IF I TRULY CARED about multi plats, then I'd get the PC versions. That's all I can say. And a majority feel the same way
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#58 ZombieKiller7
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[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

[QUOTE="DrakesHaloGears"] Of course. You have us there! And anybody denying it would be lying. But I've always said that if lemmings cared so much about superior multi plats then they should get the damn PC version. Because there actually is a noticeable difference bewtwen the PC version to the 360 version. Its a much MUCH bigger difference than the difference between the 360 and PS3 versions. The differences between the 360 and PS3 versions are so minimal and minuscule, that you'd be hard pressed to even find the differencesDrakesHaloGears

What of PC titles that folks can't get to run at all? Or that crash every 20 minutes?

Surely that's worse than having 3 less pixels on your character's left ear.

IF I TRULY CARED about multi plats, then I'd get the PC versions. That's all I can say. Its my opinion

I'm debating to get Skyrim for PC or 360.

I see too many posts on Steam saying "oh it crashes every 20 minutes, it won't run etc etc."

I'm just worried.

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[QUOTE="DrakesHaloGears"][QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

What of PC titles that folks can't get to run at all? Or that crash every 20 minutes?

Surely that's worse than having 3 less pixels on your character's left ear.

ZombieKiller7

IF I TRULY CARED about multi plats, then I'd get the PC versions. That's all I can say. Its my opinion

I'm debating to get Skyrim for PC or 360.

I see too many posts on Steam saying "oh it crashes every 20 minutes, it won't run etc etc."

I'm just worried.

they're probably trying to run Skyrim on DOS operating systems :lol: never trust anything you read on Steam forums. Skyrim is meant to be played on PC.
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#60 FPSDad1161
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I think the PS4 and next Xbox system will be about equal, just as this gen the PS3 and 360 are pretty much equal. I think the Wii U will be behind again like the Wii was. I think it will be less of a difference between the three than the PS3 and 360 versus the Wii was. I think the GCN was the last we will see of Nintendo pushing strong hardware. Don't care either way. Buying a PS4 and next Xbox. Not bothering with the Wii U.
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#61 DrakesHaloGears
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[QUOTE="DrakesHaloGears"][QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

What of PC titles that folks can't get to run at all? Or that crash every 20 minutes?

Surely that's worse than having 3 less pixels on your character's left ear.

ZombieKiller7

IF I TRULY CARED about multi plats, then I'd get the PC versions. That's all I can say. Its my opinion

I'm debating to get Skyrim for PC or 360.

I see too many posts on Steam saying "oh it crashes every 20 minutes, it won't run etc etc."

I'm just worried.

p.s What systems do you have? Anyways, Its up to you, and its your decision to make, But what I can tell you, is that you should always do your own research on the matter, and of course I'm pretty sure you know that... And that you should never ever take or always go by what some people on forums have to say seriously. I think that the loser Abonsabo/Phonemug/Groverslanding is proof enough of this, And thankfully no one here does take him serious. Its up to you to also decide if a forum members opinion is worth any merit. In the end, it all comes down to you. Its your final decision to make, so it should be your research that leads to it. I will offer my personal opinion though. I think you should get the PC version. The 360 version is pretty bugged out too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUvlNZJBH-o . . I hope you make the decision that you are happy with the most:) p.s And If you are also looking for some game recommendation, id highly recommend Uncharted 2 or Uncharted 3! Just brilliant games IMO. Also, Portal 2, Batman:AA, and Zelda:SS :)
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#62 AdmiralBison
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Graphics > All existance. EVER!

R3FURBISHED

so does that mean we should get a gaming PC when the PS4 comes out?

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#63 ronvalencia
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So could PS4 be the only true "next gen" console? Meaning the huge leap in graphics compared to the rumored weak specs of the Wii U and Xbox 720.

I feel like the PS4 will be the most powerful next gen console. Though I feel it won't be a significant lead.

What do you think?

Blazerdt47

Depends on GPU with single slot cooling solution.

90nm TSMC NVIDIAGeforce 7900 GT. The first RSX was release on 90nm process tech.

40nm TSMC AMD Radeon HD 6670

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#64 nameless12345
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Isn't the PS4 supposed to be aimed at women? :P

Altho it's probably true that they don't have to do much to surpass the competition, technically. Just throw a gimped GTX 460 with a PowerPC CPU and 2 gigs of RAM in there and it'll already be the most powerful of the three :P

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[QUOTE="Vortexshadowray"]@grove above Bottom point makes no sense, Vita is a handheld. Vita has also not been fully released so how can it be struggling?phonemug

Point is Sony is struggling financially now more than ever.

They're in even less of a position to release expensive hardware now than they were 6 months ago when the Sony Euro VP made these comments.

Ah, so you are Grive, I knew I would attract the inner alt in you with something you disagree with.
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#66 Vortexshadowray
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[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

[QUOTE="DrakesHaloGears"] IF I TRULY CARED about multi plats, then I'd get the PC versions. That's all I can say. Its my opinion DrakesHaloGears

I'm debating to get Skyrim for PC or 360.

I see too many posts on Steam saying "oh it crashes every 20 minutes, it won't run etc etc."

I'm just worried.

p.s What systems do you have? Anyways, Its up to you, and its your decision to make, But what I can tell you, is that you should always do your own research on the matter, and of course I'm pretty sure you know that... And that you should never ever take or always go by what some people on forums have to say seriously. I think that the loser Abonsabo/Phonemug/Groverslanding is proof enough of this, And thankfully no one here does take him serious. Its up to you to also decide if a forum members opinion is worth any merit. In the end, it all comes down to you. Its your final decision to make, so it should be your research that leads to it. I will offer my personal opinion though. I think you should get the PC version. The 360 version is pretty bugged out too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUvlNZJBH-o . . I hope you make the decision that you are happy with the most:) p.s And If you are also looking for some game recommendation, id highly recommend Uncharted 2 or Uncharted 3! Just brilliant games IMO. Also, Portal 2, Batman:AA, and Zelda:SS :)

SS made all your credibility fly right out the window.
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So could PS4 be the only true "next gen" console? Meaning the huge leap in graphics compared to the rumored weak specs of the Wii U and Xbox 720.

I feel like the PS4 will be the most powerful next gen console. Though I feel it won't be a significant lead.

What do you think?

PS4 could release games with 30x the polygons

PS4 could release games with 30x the polygons

In June last year we heard the next PlayStation could be ten times as powerful as the current system. However, in 2011 we were also told the PS4 would be with us in the next couple of years, but this is looking less likely due to the fact Sony hasno plan to make an announcement at E3this year regarding their next-gen console.

It's easy to see why we would doubt a release of the PS4 in 2013, but you cannot hide the fact the new console will be more powerful. Further proof of this can be found in a recent job listing from Naughty Dog, who has said they are working on a next-gen game capable of 30x the polygons, which would mean 1,000,000 polygon characters.

Anarticle heresuggests some gamers would argue the current batch of consoles are already next-gen, so Naughty Dog could be referring to their next game, which as we know is The Last of Us. However, most gamers consider the PS4 to be the next-gen console. We already reported onehalf of Naughty Dog were working on The Last of Us, this could mean the other half are working on Uncharted 4 complete with 1,000,000 polygon character models.

Our recent articles regarding possiblestoriesandantagonistfor Uncharted 4 doesn't seem as important at this stage, not when you consider the current version of the game uses 30,000 polygons and the next-gen version could have another 970,000 on top of that.

There have been suggestions that Uncharted 4 will be a no go, but consider this; Sony needs a flagship game for the launch of the PlayStation 4, and a fourth outing for Nathan Drake could be it –if Naughty Dog can make vast improvements to the story and the gameplay that is.

When the PS3 first launched back in 2006 it had a rocky start, it's for this reason why Sony needs to come out of the starting blocks running. There are many ways this can be achieved, such as an improved controller, cloud gaming (which we have covered in another article), improved design, a price reduction and more. However,a report herelooks at how backwards compatibility will be another great feature for the PS4. Okay, the idea of playing your PS3 games on a next-gen console would be cool; do you think this is a feature Sony would finally bring back?

http://www.inentertainment.co.uk/20120124/ps4-could-release-games-with-30x-the-polygons/

Blazerdt47

Didn't $ony also say the PS2 could do"Toystory 3D Graphics"and the"PS4 could do 4D 1080P/@120Hz Dual screen outputs with supercomputer speed"? Looks like you are a decade late to the news.

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[QUOTE="DrakesHaloGears"][QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]I'm debating to get Skyrim for PC or 360.I see too many posts on Steam saying "oh it crashes every 20 minutes, it won't run etc etc."I'm just worried.Vortexshadowray
p.s What systems do you have? Anyways, Its up to you, and its your decision to make, But what I can tell you, is that you should always do your own research on the matter, and of course I'm pretty sure you know that... And that you should never ever take or always go by what some people on forums have to say seriously. I think that the loser Abonsabo/Phonemug/Groverslanding is proof enough of this, And thankfully no one here does take him serious. Its up to you to also decide if a forum members opinion is worth any merit. In the end, it all comes down to you. Its your final decision to make, so it should be your research that leads to it. I will offer my personal opinion though. I think you should get the PC version. The 360 version is pretty bugged out too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUvlNZJBH-o . . I hope you make the decision that you are happy with the most:) p.s And If you are also looking for some game recommendation, id highly recommend Uncharted 2 or Uncharted 3! Just brilliant games IMO. Also, Portal 2, Batman:AA, and Zelda:SS :)

SS made all your credibility fly right out the window.

Its a good game, you should try it! But let me get this straight, liking a game that you don't like, is what destroys my credibility with you? LOL you need to grow up my dude!
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#69 DrakesHaloGears
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[QUOTE="Vortexshadowray"]Who the hell cares about Polygons anymore?Heirren

:roll:

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LMAO BURN!

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#70 Heil68
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Long as the games are as good as this gens, I'll be pleased as punch.
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#71 mitu123
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Will it be $599 as well?

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#72 Frostbite24
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[QUOTE="EsYuGee"]

I wouldn't consider this a good omen. For the past few generations the most powerful console has always come in second.

DrakesHaloGears
Omens are meant to be broken! p.s But that wasn't true for this gen, because the PS3 is the most powerful system, and its in third place- albiet to be fair- they are right behind M$ in a sort of neck and neck battle for second, so eventually that omen will make sense lol

I think he was referring to 360 being the most powerful this gen.
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#73 JohnF111
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30x more powerful? I doubt it, i think i remember Sony even saying that it won't be much more powerful due to the direction of gaming. So i'll expect to see current gen games running at maybe 1080p with some AA, not the 120fps 4D we'd all like to see. Just give us 1080p with no jaggies and i'll be happy as hell.
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#74 BibiMaghoo
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[QUOTE="rasengan2552"][QUOTE="6yadayada9"]

I wonder if PS4 will charge for PSN. It probably will. I doubt Sony will forgo that revenue stream again.

Really hope it's free though. If it is, I'll definitely go PS4 next gen. I'd never want to pay for goddamn P2P networking.

6yadayada9

They will never charge for it. They will just do the two infrastructures like they did this gen.

And how do you know that sir? Do you have Kaz Hirai on speed-dial?

I do :D

Me: So Kaz, whats up dude?
Kaz:: Riiiidge Raaceeerrrr!!!!!
Me: lol, glad your good, whats the situation with paying for online next gen?
Kaz: We will be forcing all devs of PS4 to include online passes, otherwise it will be free, we will still have a premium service though.
Me: Cool, how much will that cost Kaz?
Kaz: Five Hundred and ninety nine US dollars!!
Me: lol mate, thats a bit expensive isnt it?
Kaz: Its a risky investment, but we are confident we can offer a service like no other. We have spent two billion in R&D!
Me: Cool, say hi to shadow for me
Kaz: Ill have to wake him up first, he snores like a dog
Me: No worries lol, take it easy dude
Kaz: Riiiidge Raaceeerrrr!!!!!
Me: K,lol, by.


.........Sorry, I dont know what came over me.....

P.s - no offense shadowMosses, you were just the first PS fanboy that came to mind, dont hate me, it was a joke.

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#75 Zant_sanity
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The one thing I can't stand about Sony is their Bullsh!t PR, and they go even further and make their first party studios say things like this as well. Guerrilla games was forced to say that Killzone 3 had 4x the polygons that KZ2 had. :/ And maybe more than that, I can't remember exactly. Don't forget teh 4D and 120 fps.
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The one thing I can't stand about Sony is their Bullsh!t PR.Zant_sanity
Then you must hate M$, because they spew out even more bull sh*t PR!
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#77 DrakesHaloGears
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[QUOTE="DrakesHaloGears"][QUOTE="EsYuGee"]

I wouldn't consider this a good omen. For the past few generations the most powerful console has always come in second.

Frostbite24
Omens are meant to be broken! p.s But that wasn't true for this gen, because the PS3 is the most powerful system, and its in third place- albiet to be fair- they are right behind M$ in a sort of neck and neck battle for second, so eventually that omen will make sense lol

I think he was referring to 360 being the most powerful this gen.

??? Wow! And do you know what my post meant or what it was referring to? Don't think too hard. I don't want to give you a brain aneurysm or anything!
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With the profit Sony is making I would expect a PS4 made of cardboard..

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#80 DrakesHaloGears
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[QUOTE="6yadayada9"][QUOTE="rasengan2552"] They will never charge for it. They will just do the two infrastructures like they did this gen.BibiMaghoo
And how do you know that sir? Do you have Kaz Hirai on speed-dial?

I do :D Me: So Kaz, whats up dude? Kaz:: Riiiidge Raaceeerrrr!!!!!Me: lol, glad your good, whats the situation with paying for online next gen? Kaz: We will be forcing all devs of PS4 to include online passes, otherwise it will be free, we will still have a premium service though.Me: Cool, how much will that cost Kaz? Kaz: Five Hundred and ninety nine US dollars!!Me: lol mate, thats a bit expensive isnt it? Maz: Its a risky investment, but we are confident we can offer a service like no other. We have spent two billion in R&D!Me: Cool, say hi to shadow for meKaz: Ill have to wake him up first, he snores like a dogMe: No worries lol, take it easy dudeKaz: Riiiidge Raaceeerrrr!!!!!Me: K,lol, by. .........Sorry, I dont know what came over me.....P.s - no offense shadowMosses, you were just the first PS fanboy that came to mind, dont hate me, it was a joke.

lol You shall be forgiven, once you make a joke about Microsoft! What do you say guys: thumbs up or thumbs down? lol
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[QUOTE="DrakesHaloGears"][QUOTE="Frostbite24"][QUOTE="DrakesHaloGears"] Omens are meant to be broken! p.s But that wasn't true for this gen, because the PS3 is the most powerful system, and its in third place- albiet to be fair- they are right behind M$ in a sort of neck and neck battle for second, so eventually that omen will make sense lol

I think he was referring to 360 being the most powerful this gen.

??? Wow! And do you know what my post meant or what it was referring to? Don't think too hard. I don't want to give you a brain aneurysm or anything!

Wtf? I was talking about what EsYuGee wrote. You assumed he considered the PS3 the most powerful system when I opined that he could be referring to the 360 you dimwit. Seems like you might already have an aneurysm. :roll:
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#82 z4twenny
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i expect next gen to run games that have the quality of the samaritan demo @ 1080p 60fps. theres no excuse to not be able to.

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#83 DrakesHaloGears
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With the profit Sony is making I would expect a PS4 made of cardboard..

tjricardo089
LOL dont tell me that you actually believe that loser Abonsabo/Phonemug/Groverslanding "Sony is in the doomz, and there will be no PS4" drivel. There will be enough for a PS4 and it will come out- maybe later rather then sooner- Because of how bad the economy has been, for not only Sony, and customers, but for a lot of other big business' too. But it will eventually come out!
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#84 Frostbite24
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[QUOTE="tjricardo089"]

With the profit Sony is making I would expect a PS4 made of cardboard..

DrakesHaloGears
LOL dont tell me that you actually believe that loser Abonsabo/Phonemug/Groverslanding "Sony is in the doomz, and there will be no PS4" drivel. There will be enough for a PS4 and it will come out- maybe later rather then sooner- Because of how bad the economy has been, for not only Sony, and customers, but for a lot of other big business' too. But it will eventually come out!

For as much as you talk about those other posters it makes me think that you are all the same trouble fanboy lol.
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#85 DrakesHaloGears
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[QUOTE="Frostbite24"][QUOTE="DrakesHaloGears"][QUOTE="Frostbite24"] I think he was referring to 360 being the most powerful this gen.

??? Wow! And do you know what my post meant or what it was referring to? Don't think too hard. I don't want to give you a brain aneurysm or anything!

Wtf? I was talking about what EsYuGee wrote. You assumed he considered the PS3 the most powerful system when I opined that he could be referring to the 360 you dimwit. Seems like you might already have an aneurysm. :roll:

My god you are a moron ! Serious question, do you get tired of being such a damn idiot all the time? I knew he was talking about the 360. Like duh duh you moron! Now, if only you knew what I was talking about! You see, that's EXACTLY why I posted this: "But that wasn't true for this gen, because the PS3 IS the most powerful system, and its in third place- albiet to be fair- they are right behind M$ in a sort of neck and neck battle for second, "so eventually that omen will make sense lol" I mean do you not know how to read? And are you like at a first grade reading comprehension level or something? I may have told this to some one else, but you sir, you need a brain transplant (from a smarter one)
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[QUOTE="Zant_sanity"]The one thing I can't stand about Sony is their Bullsh!t PR.DrakesHaloGears
Then you must hate M$, because they spew out even more bull sh*t PR!

The difference being I don't expect anything from M$ as they've always been terrible. Sony's PR is just one of the few things that could use improvement.
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#87 Frostbite24
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[QUOTE="Frostbite24"][QUOTE="DrakesHaloGears"] ??? Wow! And do you know what my post meant or what it was referring to? Don't think too hard. I don't want to give you a brain aneurysm or anything! DrakesHaloGears
Wtf? I was talking about what EsYuGee wrote. You assumed he considered the PS3 the most powerful system when I opined that he could be referring to the 360 you dimwit. Seems like you might already have an aneurysm. :roll:

My god you are a moron ! Serious question, do you get tired of being such a damn idiot all the time? I knew he was talking about the 360. Like duh duh you moron! Now, if only you knew what I was talking about! You see moron, that's EXACTLY why I posted this: "But that wasn't true for this gen, because the PS3 IS the most powerful system, and its in third place- albiet to be fair- they are right behind M$ in a sort of neck and neck battle for second, "so eventually that omen will make sense lol" I mean do you not know how to read? Are you like at a first grade reading comprehension level? Jesus christ, you are beyond stupid! I may have told this to some one else, but you sir, you need a brain transplant!

:|:?:o:lol:

Alright kid you got me hahaha. Here I thought I was talking to an adult not a child.

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#88 DrakesHaloGears
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[QUOTE="DrakesHaloGears"][QUOTE="Zant_sanity"]The one thing I can't stand about Sony is their Bullsh!t PR.Zant_sanity
Then you must hate M$, because they spew out even more bull sh*t PR!

The difference being I don't expect anything from M$ as they've always been terrible. Sony's PR is just one of the few things that could use improvement.

What the hell lol! That doesn't make sense, and it doesn't excuse the fact that M$ spews out bullsh*t PR! Anyway, I wouldn't want M$ (or even Sony) to look to "improve" their "PR." That's kind of like saying, you want M$ to become even better then they already are at lying to us. What i would want is much less "PR" talk, and more "telling it like it is" talk! I could care less about the many things and or pro stats that M$ PR politicians twists and distorts almost daily ect. PR is one of the things I could care less about, or at least what it became and is now, is what I could care less about. Also, If you take everything you hear, as literal as you do, then you are going to be raging at more PR statements in the future lol. I'm telling you for your own good. Just learn to know what is more likely real talk then PR fluff. It doesn't take much to educate yourself. And lastly, and very importantly, for the people to stupid to realise it, THIS IS NOT WHAT SONY NOR NAUGHTY DOG SAID, ITS ONLY WHAT A WEB SITE HAS REPORTED ON AS A RUMOR(ACCORDING TO THEIR SOURCES)
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#89 DrakesHaloGears
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[QUOTE="DrakesHaloGears"][QUOTE="Frostbite24"] Wtf? I was talking about what EsYuGee wrote. You assumed he considered the PS3 the most powerful system when I opined that he could be referring to the 360 you dimwit. Seems like you might already have an aneurysm. :roll: Frostbite24

My god you are a moron ! Serious question, do you get tired of being such a damn idiot all the time? I knew he was talking about the 360. Like duh duh you moron! Now, if only you knew what I was talking about! You see moron, that's EXACTLY why I posted this: "But that wasn't true for this gen, because the PS3 IS the most powerful system, and its in third place- albiet to be fair- they are right behind M$ in a sort of neck and neck battle for second, "so eventually that omen will make sense lol" I mean do you not know how to read? Are you like at a first grade reading comprehension level? Jesus christ, you are beyond stupid! I may have told this to some one else, but you sir, you need a brain transplant!

:|:?:o:lol:

Alright kid you got me hahaha. Here I thought I was talking to an adult not a child.

I'm atually 23, But i bet that you are 12 years old, at the most! I was playing the PS1 while you were still wearing diapers! Although you probably still may be wearing diapers!
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[QUOTE="Frostbite24"]

[QUOTE="DrakesHaloGears"] My god you are a moron ! Serious question, do you get tired of being such a damn idiot all the time? I knew he was talking about the 360. Like duh duh you moron! Now, if only you knew what I was talking about! You see moron, that's EXACTLY why I posted this: "But that wasn't true for this gen, because the PS3 IS the most powerful system, and its in third place- albiet to be fair- they are right behind M$ in a sort of neck and neck battle for second, "so eventually that omen will make sense lol" I mean do you not know how to read? Are you like at a first grade reading comprehension level? Jesus christ, you are beyond stupid! I may have told this to some one else, but you sir, you need a brain transplant! DrakesHaloGears

:|:?:o:lol:

Alright kid you got me hahaha. Here I thought I was talking to an adult not a child.

I bet that you are 12 years old, at the most! I was playing the PS1 while you were still wearing diapers! Although you probably still may be wearing diapers!

Well that's even worse, you're an adult who's acting like a child. Sorry the internet has got you so upset. Cheers mate.

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#91 DrakesHaloGears
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[QUOTE="DrakesHaloGears"][QUOTE="Frostbite24"]:|:?:o:lol:Alright kid you got me hahaha. Here I thought I was talking to an adult not a child.Frostbite24
I bet that you are 12 years old, at the most! I was playing the PS1 while you were still wearing diapers! Although you probably still may be wearing diapers!

Well that's even worse, you're an adult who acting like a child. Sorry the internet has got you so upset. Cheers mate.

I guess stupid people bring that out in me lol! But cheers too though mate! That was nice of you!
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#92 CanYouDiglt
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[QUOTE="DrakesHaloGears"][QUOTE="Frostbite24"]:|:?:o:lol:

Alright kid you got me hahaha. Here I thought I was talking to an adult not a child.

Frostbite24

I bet that you are 12 years old, at the most! I was playing the PS1 while you were still wearing diapers! Although you probably still may be wearing diapers!

Well that's even worse, you're an adult who's acting like a child. Sorry the internet has got you so upset. Cheers mate.

lol I was thinking that also. At least if he was a child it would be more understandable the way he acts.
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#93 DrakesHaloGears
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[QUOTE="Frostbite24"]

[QUOTE="DrakesHaloGears"] I bet that you are 12 years old, at the most! I was playing the PS1 while you were still wearing diapers! Although you probably still may be wearing diapers!CanYouDiglt

Well that's even worse, you're an adult who's acting like a child. Sorry the internet has got you so upset. Cheers mate.

lol I was thinking that also. At least if he was a child it would be more understandable the way he acts.

Why are you butting into our convo! This convo doesn't involve you! And do you not realise how many times, and how many people have called you a troll/and or delusional? You are one of this site's bigger lemming trolls! You of all people have no business calling out other members, when you are probably WORSE!
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#94 CanYouDiglt
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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="Frostbite24"] Well that's even worse, you're an adult who's acting like a child. Sorry the internet has got you so upset. Cheers mate.

DrakesHaloGears

lol I was thinking that also. At least if he was a child it would be more understandable the way he acts.

Why are you butting into our convo! This convo doesn't involve you! And do you not realise how many times, and how many people have called you a troll/and or delusional? You are one of this site's bigger lemming trolls! You of all people have no business calling out other members, when you are probably WORSE!

Aww yes let your inner nerd rage out.

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#95 DrakesHaloGears
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[QUOTE="DrakesHaloGears"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]lol I was thinking that also. At least if he was a child it would be more understandable the way he acts.CanYouDiglt
Why are you butting into our convo! This convo doesn't involve you! And do you not realise how many times, and how many people have called you a troll/and or delusional? You are one of this site's bigger lemming trolls! You of all people have no business calling out other members, when you are probably WORSE!

Aww yes let your inner nerd rage out.

I bet you would know all about what nerd rage is, uh geek lol! You have given me an idea though! What we should do, is put a warning label: sever troll ahead: before and after each one of your posts! It would go a long way in helping new members to know to continue ignoring you like every one else has already! So thank you with the utmost sincerity for giving me that idea lem troll!
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Isn't the PS4 supposed to be aimed at women? :P

Altho it's probably true that they don't have to do much to surpass the competition, technically. Just throw a gimped GTX 460 with a PowerPC CPU and 2 gigs of RAM in there and it'll already be the most powerful of the three :P

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LOL...

Geforce GTX 460's die size is larger than Radeon HD 5870...

Geforce GTX 460 has 367 mm^2 die size (1).

Radeon HD 5870 has 334 mm^2 die size (2) .

They both use 40nm TSMC process technology.

References

1. Link

2. Link

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#97 ddlcpc
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so far sony playstation hasn't let me down and considering the proof of 30x polygoons capabilities i've high hopes for next gen console....

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#98 ronvalencia
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so far sony playstation hasn't let me down and considering the proof of 30x polygoons capabilities i've high hopes for next gen console....

ddlcpc

It depends on single slot cooled GPUs.

Both NVIDIA RSX(PS3's GPU)and Geforce 7900 GT are based on the G7X design and use the same 90nm TSMC process tech.

Radeon HD 6770 can cooled by single slot designs, but it's pushing it to the limit.

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and adding more polygons won't make the console sell :lol:
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#100 DrakesHaloGears
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Ronvalencia, Unlike many others here, you seem to actually know what you are talking about. May I ask, are you a developer? And I'm not asking in a sarcastic way. But, I wanted to get your thoughs on this series of posts. [QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="DrakesHaloGears"][QUOTE="soulitane"] As far as I know the PS3 is more than capable of producing that many polygons, but for a single model that would be a complete waste. As explained by a user on here who is actually a graphics designer (or something like that), they render the original model using a program at with a lot more polygons than used in game. They then import that model into the game engine and scale it down so that it has less polygons. I'm pretty sure that's how it goes. 1 million polygons for a single character model in game would be a complete waste of resources.

That's interesting to know. Thanks:) But do you have a source that this is the case here? And why would it be a waist if the hardware were truly advanced enough to handel that and much more?

No I don't. Sorry if my numbers are a little off at this point but bare with me. On average I think UC2 had about 3million (I think this number might actually be for RE5 though I'm not sure) add or minus polygons per frame, drake was around 70k wasn't he? Now say the next PS is roughly 8x more powerful than the PS3, that's 24 million polygons per frame (it may not work this way but again bare with me). If a character model is 1million polygons, that's already taking up a lot of the polygons on screen, add more character models onto that say 6 and that's one quarter of the polygons on screen just for character models. If I got that wrong someone is welcome to correct me but it really doesn't seem feasible for them to use 1 million polygon models in game.

What do you think? p.s Thank you for all your informative posts