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#1 jimmyrussle117
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http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/02/21/pc-gamer-vs-playstation-4-theres-only-ever-going-to-be-one-winner-right/

 

the hardware going into a ps4 costs about 600$ for a pc equivilent, and isnt even in the same ball park as my machine i built  two yeas ago for 900$ 

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http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/02/21/pc-gamer-vs-playstation-4-theres-only-ever-going-to-be-one-winner-right/

 

the hardware going into a ps4 costs about 600$ for a pc equivilent, and isnt even in the same ball park as my machine i built  two yeas ago for 900$ 

Cows am cry, Hermit domination of next gen confirmed.

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#4 sonic1564
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Failed to rustle jimmies again.

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#5 ConanTheStoner
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Consoles will always be obsolete from purely a hardware perspective.

That doesnt take away from the fact that the PS4 is already looking like a total beast of a console.

PC gamers should be happy if anything.  Now your multiplats wont be totally gimped.

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0/10. May God have mercy on your soul.

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#8 Speedzilla
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Jimmyrussles jimmies have been rustled.

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#9 jimmyrussle117
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did anyone actually read the link?

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#10 mrmcygan
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You do know that the article replaced the gddr5 ram in the ps4 with gddr3 ram. So the ram amount cost they listed was invalid. Plus they did not include a power supply into their caculations

From article:

Impressive, but it seems like massive overkill to me, so Ill recommend 8GB of DDR3 RAM.


They listed the ram cost at 53 USD for the DDR3 but in reality 8GB GDDR5 Ram will cost around 100 dollars. 

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#11 ConanTheStoner
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did anyone actually read the link?

jimmyrussle117

No.  I just wanted to post before your thread gets locked.

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#12 clyde46
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did anyone actually read the link?

jimmyrussle117
Its a poorly written article that doesnt even take into account the OS. I love PC gaming but I don't BS people when I say its expensive.
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#13 Evo_nine
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why are hermits so threatened by the ps4?

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#14 clyde46
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why are hermits so threatened by the ps4?

Evo_nine
I'm not threatened but my bank account sure is.
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#16 HaloPimp978
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did anyone actually read the link?

jimmyrussle117

No because it would have been a waste of time.

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#17 AmazonTreeBoa
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Well duh. Anything else you wish to tell us captain obvious?
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#18 jimmyrussle117
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why are hermits so threatened by the ps4?

Evo_nine

Not threatened, cows claiming ownage sure is annoying tho.

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#19 Kinthalis
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You do know that the article replaced the gddr5 ram in the ps4 with gddr3 ram. So the ram amount cost they listed was invalid. Plus they did not include a power supply into their caculations

From article:

Impressive, but it seems like massive overkill to me, so Ill recommend 8GB of DDR3 RAM.


They listed the ram cost at 53 USD for the DDR3 but in reality 8GB GDDR5 Ram will cost around 100 dollars. 

mrmcygan

 

CPU workload benefits from tight timings, not pure bandwidth. So there is no advantage to DDR5 and no reason to use it for a CPU. It might even be bad for performance, due to the looser timings. It's only good for high bandwidth workloads, like that of a GPU.  And all modern GPU's have DDR5.

 

The PS4 does have a larger theoretical GPU buffer. I'll guess that 4 gigs will be taken up by other game stuff + OS and background functions, leaving a hefty 4 Gig buffer (and maybe a little more if the devs are careful managing it) to play with.

 

No games require that kind of buffer as of yet, so we'll see how things shake out once better games come out for both the next gen consoles and PC.

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#21 LadyBlue
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[QUOTE="Evo_nine"]

why are hermits so threatened by the ps4?

clyde46
I'm not threatened but my bank account sure is.

One of the few cool hermits.
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#22 Obviously_Right
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Such a fail article, why didn't he factor in the cost of a new copy of Windows?

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#23 GD1551
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[QUOTE="jimmyrussle117"]

did anyone actually read the link?

clyde46

Its a poorly written article that doesnt even take into account the OS. I love PC gaming but I don't BS people when I say its expensive.

Yep, I feel that the PC gamers here mislead people alot out of pure fanboyism. When I posted on the hardware forums some of the reccs I'd see would make me cringe! I am glad some of us don't go around perpetuating BS.

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#24 Kinthalis
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Such a fail article, why didn't he factor in the cost of a new copy of Windows?

Obviously_Right

 

Isn't windows 8 still like $30?  IT's not really siginificant, considering that by the time the PS4 rolls out, these same parts will probably add up to $50-$60 dollars less anyway.

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#25 LadyBlue
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Such a fail article, why didn't he factor in the cost of a new copy of Windows?

Obviously_Right
Is the game in your sig GT or is that a different series?
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#27 clyde46
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[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

Such a fail article, why didn't he factor in the cost of a new copy of Windows?

Pete-B
Is the game in your sig GT or is that a different series?

Its the new DriveClub game.
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#28 ConanTheStoner
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[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

Such a fail article, why didn't he factor in the cost of a new copy of Windows?

Pete-B

Is the game in your sig GT or is that a different series?

Probably Driveclub since it says Driveclub, but thats just a random guess.

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#29 KingKinect
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PS4 is so dated Sony had to build themselves a time machine to go get it's hardware.

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#30 Obviously_Right
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[QUOTE="Pete-B"][QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

Such a fail article, why didn't he factor in the cost of a new copy of Windows?

ConanTheStoner

Is the game in your sig GT or is that a different series?

Probably Driveclub since it says Driveclub, but thats just a random guess.

:lol:

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#31 LadyBlue
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[QUOTE="Pete-B"][QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

Such a fail article, why didn't he factor in the cost of a new copy of Windows?

ConanTheStoner

Is the game in your sig GT or is that a different series?

Probably Driveclub since it says Driveclub, but thats just a random guess.

Goodness! :P I'm watching something on and didn't finish watching it. lol
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#33 jimmyrussle117
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Such a fail article, why didn't he factor in the cost of a new copy of Windows?

Obviously_Right

lems never factor in xbl fees...

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Funny thread I like it. I give it 10/10

 

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http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/02/21/pc-gamer-vs-playstation-4-theres-only-ever-going-to-be-one-winner-right/

 

the hardware going into a ps4 costs about 600$ for a pc equivilent, and isnt even in the same ball park as my machine i built  two yeas ago for 900$ 

Cows am cry, Hermit domination of next gen confirmed.

jimmyrussle117

Then why all PC games look like last gen garbage comapring to Star Wars, Watchdogs, Agnes, Killzone and Deep Down ?

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[QUOTE="jimmyrussle117"]

http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/02/21/pc-gamer-vs-playstation-4-theres-only-ever-going-to-be-one-winner-right/

 

the hardware going into a ps4 costs about 600$ for a pc equivilent, and isnt even in the same ball park as my machine i built  two yeas ago for 900$ 

Cows am cry, Hermit domination of next gen confirmed.

loosingENDS

Then why all PC games look like last gen garbage comapring to Star Wars, Watchdogs, Agnes, Killzone and Deep Down ?

I was wondering were you were.  Whatcha think of the PS4 so far?

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#37 hardmicro
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[QUOTE="Evo_nine"]

why are hermits so threatened by the ps4?

clyde46
I'm not threatened but my bank account sure is.

Whats funny is that you made that post after just saying this: " I love PC gaming but I don't BS people when I say its expensive." So why would the PS4's price bother you when its going to be signigicantly less then any PC of comparable power etc Plus you dont even know how much the PS4 is going to cost bottom line! Do you want to put your foot in your mouth even more my good sir!
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#38 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Evo_nine"]

why are hermits so threatened by the ps4?

hardmicro
I'm not threatened but my bank account sure is.

Whats funny is that you made that post after just saying this: " I love PC gaming but I don't BS people when I say its expensive." So why should the PS4's price bother you when its going to be signigicantly less then any pc of comparable power etc Plus you dont even know how much its going to cost! Do you want to put your foot in your mouth even more my good sir!

I already have a capable PC good sir, I need to pay for my car insurance in Septmeber which doesn't leave me with much time to save for the PS4.
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the ps4 has rustled his jimmies :lol:

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#40 hardmicro
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="hardmicro"][QUOTE="clyde46"] I'm not threatened but my bank account sure is.

Whats funny is that you made that post after just saying this: " I love PC gaming but I don't BS people when I say its expensive." So why should the PS4's price bother you when its going to be signigicantly less then any pc of comparable power etc Plus you dont even know how much its going to cost! Do you want to put your foot in your mouth even more my good sir!

I already have a capable PC good sir, I need to pay for my car insurance in Septmeber which doesn't leave me with much time to save for the PS4.

Are you a college student? I know that can be tough! But like i said, you dont even know the price of the PS4! If I were you, I would just start selling as many old consoles as i have to get as much money as possible toward a PS4 lol
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[QUOTE="jimmyrussle117"]

http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/02/21/pc-gamer-vs-playstation-4-theres-only-ever-going-to-be-one-winner-right/

 

the hardware going into a ps4 costs about 600$ for a pc equivilent, and isnt even in the same ball park as my machine i built  two yeas ago for 900$ 

Cows am cry, Hermit domination of next gen confirmed.

loosingENDS

Then why all PC games look like last gen garbage comapring to Star Wars, Watchdogs, Agnes, Killzone and Deep Down ?

Why compare all games to games that we've not seen in game? Besides Watch dogs,but it's on PC too and will be better anyway
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#42 lild1425
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Read the topic title and realized trolls don't hibernate for the winter.

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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="jimmyrussle117"]

http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/02/21/pc-gamer-vs-playstation-4-theres-only-ever-going-to-be-one-winner-right/

 

the hardware going into a ps4 costs about 600$ for a pc equivilent, and isnt even in the same ball park as my machine i built  two yeas ago for 900$ 

Cows am cry, Hermit domination of next gen confirmed.

MonsieurX

Then why all PC games look like last gen garbage comapring to Star Wars, Watchdogs, Agnes, Killzone and Deep Down ?

Why compare all games to games that we've not seen in game? Besides Watch dogs,but it's on PC too and will be better anyway

dont bother he's a known troll

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#45 hardmicro
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="jimmyrussle117"]

http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/02/21/pc-gamer-vs-playstation-4-theres-only-ever-going-to-be-one-winner-right/

 

the hardware going into a ps4 costs about 600$ for a pc equivilent, and isnt even in the same ball park as my machine i built  two yeas ago for 900$ 

Cows am cry, Hermit domination of next gen confirmed.

MonsieurX

Then why all PC games look like last gen garbage comapring to Star Wars, Watchdogs, Agnes, Killzone and Deep Down ?

Why compare all games to games that we've not seen in game? Besides Watch dogs,but it's on PC too and will be better anyway

Lol Killzone was 100% gameplay Did you not see them playing it with the PS4 controller on stage for crying out loud!
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#46 Basinboy
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[QUOTE="jimmyrussle117"]

did anyone actually read the link?

clyde46
Its a poorly written article that doesnt even take into account the OS. I love PC gaming but I don't BS people when I say its expensive.

It all depends on how many games you intend to buy and when. If you don't buy used games, console game prices will eventually outpace your spending for the same games available via Steam, Amazon, GMG, and other various sales.
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#47 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Then why all PC games look like last gen garbage comapring to Star Wars, Watchdogs, Agnes, Killzone and Deep Down ?

jimmyrussle117

Why compare all games to games that we've not seen in game? Besides Watch dogs,but it's on PC too and will be better anyway

dont bother he's a known troll

I'm well aware of it.
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#48 RoOodriGowW
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Meanwhile into the lonely and sad shell hermits call home...

Seriously you can build a ps4 with 600$ , but the actual ps4 will cost less than that , selling a 5k console just like the rig mentioned in the article would make a whole lotta sense wouldn't it?Yeah...so cut the bs please , nobody gives a damn about that , go to the hardware discussion forum.

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#49 jimmyrussle117
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Then why all PC games look like last gen garbage comapring to Star Wars, Watchdogs, Agnes, Killzone and Deep Down ?

hardmicro

Why compare all games to games that we've not seen in game? Besides Watch dogs,but it's on PC too and will be better anyway

Lol Killzone was 100% gameplay Did you not see them playing it with the PS4 controller on stage for crying out loud!

Theres dozens of pc games that absolutley destroy Killzone... Noones doubting that that was real footage.

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#50 starwarsjunky
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[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

Such a fail article, why didn't he factor in the cost of a new copy of Windows?

Kinthalis

 

Isn't windows 8 still like $30?  IT's not really siginificant, considering that by the time the PS4 rolls out, these same parts will probably add up to $50-$60 dollars less anyway.

no, you're thinking of the upgrade from win7. a fresh copy of Win8 is $100 for the cheapest oem version. and he only alloted $50 for blu-ray, case, and PSU? not to mention the downplay on the GDDR3. not saying ps4 is $1000 or anything, but if you're making an article to downplay the ps4, do it right.