Ps4 is already obsolete.

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#51 Maneil99
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I'm sorry, but this article is BS. To get things straight before I go over my reasoning: I'm a PC enthusiast, not a console fanboy. I've never owned a console. First off, on RAM: "Given that the next Xbox will supposedly launch at 8GB, it only seems right that Sony also sticks in a full 8GB of GDDR 5 RAM. Impressive, but it seems like massive overkill to me, so Ill recommend 8GB of DDR3 RAM." You failed to note that it's actually impossible to include high-speed GDDR5 RAM with this system, instead choosing to call it "overkill." When you're recommending parts to people, at least tell them the truth about why you chose a specific part, rather than feeding them lies. My second gripe with the article is found in the "other" section: The rest of the components you can put together from any number of budget parts. So long as the PSU has a PCIe power connector for your graphics card youre good to go. With that and a cheapo chassis you can have the lot for another $50." You're honestly expecting people to find their own power supply when they don't even have the know-how to choose a graphics card? None the less, you're saying that you can fit a high quality power supply and a decent case in a $50 budget, which you can't.

 

Even moreshocking to me where you say "as long as the PSU has a PCIe power connection for your graphics card you're good to go." This is just downright wrong. There is much, much more to buying a power supply than the connections it offers.There are too many low quality power supplies out there with that PCIe power connection included, even though they would literally catch on fire if you came close to providing the power needed for the graphics card and (inefficient) CPU, destroying not only the unit itself, but also every other part in the computer.

 

And then you go on to say that Optical is dead: "Im assuming you have a display, as Id assume a PS4 buyer would have a TV, and youll notice Im not including a Blu-ray drive here. Not because Im trying to stick to a price-point, but because optical medias dead, man. Weve got digital downloads and operating systems that can be installed from USB sticks, so why would we?" Sure, maybe it is dead. But guess what? Windows still comes on a disk! How can you expect a first time builder to know that he has to download it and prepare a flash drive to boot off of for the installation? Are you prepared to have a bunch of poor souls coming back to you crying that they can't find where to put the disk? Finally, you don't even include a legitimate copy of Windows. Add $100 on to your budget, buddy. If you're going to tell people they can build a comparable PC to a console for a similar price, don't lie about it. You're looking at at least $50-$80 for a decent PSU on its own, another $30-$50 for case of acceptable quality, and $100 more for an OEM license of Windows. I'm not including an optical drive in there for argument's sake, and you're still roughly $250 more than your so called "$600 rig." -Razer

 

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I'm sorry, but this article is BS. To get things straight before I go over my reasoning: I'm a PC enthusiast, not a console fanboy. I've never owned a console. First off, on RAM: "Given that the next Xbox will supposedly launch at 8GB, it only seems right that Sony also sticks in a full 8GB of GDDR 5 RAM. Impressive, but it seems like massive overkill to me, so Ill recommend 8GB of DDR3 RAM." You failed to note that it's actually impossible to include high-speed GDDR5 RAM with this system, instead choosing to call it "overkill." When you're recommending parts to people, at least tell them the truth about why you chose a specific part, rather than feeding them lies. My second gripe with the article is found in the "other" section: The rest of the components you can put together from any number of budget parts. So long as the PSU has a PCIe power connector for your graphics card youre good to go. With that and a cheapo chassis you can have the lot for another $50." You're honestly expecting people to find their own power supply when they don't even have the know-how to choose a graphics card? None the less, you're saying that you can fit a high quality power supply and a decent case in a $50 budget, which you can't.

 

Even moreshocking to me where you say "as long as the PSU has a PCIe power connection for your graphics card you're good to go." This is just downright wrong. There is much, much more to buying a power supply than the connections it offers.There are too many low quality power supplies out there with that PCIe power connection included, even though they would literally catch on fire if you came close to providing the power needed for the graphics card and (inefficient) CPU, destroying not only the unit itself, but also every other part in the computer.

 

And then you go on to say that Optical is dead: "Im assuming you have a display, as Id assume a PS4 buyer would have a TV, and youll notice Im not including a Blu-ray drive here. Not because Im trying to stick to a price-point, but because optical medias dead, man. Weve got digital downloads and operating systems that can be installed from USB sticks, so why would we?" Sure, maybe it is dead. But guess what? Windows still comes on a disk! How can you expect a first time builder to know that he has to download it and prepare a flash drive to boot off of for the installation? Are you prepared to have a bunch of poor souls coming back to you crying that they can't find where to put the disk? Finally, you don't even include a legitimate copy of Windows. Add $100 on to your budget, buddy. If you're going to tell people they can build a comparable PC to a console for a similar price, don't lie about it. You're looking at at least $50-$80 for a decent PSU on its own, another $30-$50 for case of acceptable quality, and $100 more for an OEM license of Windows. I'm not including an optical drive in there for argument's sake, and you're still roughly $250 more than your so called "$600 rig." -Razer

 

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glad that guy isn't building me a pc. itd be in a wooden box, and he'd leave out the keyboard as its not really necessary. also, it'd run ms-dos.
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#53 kuraimen
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I'm sorry, but this article is BS. To get things straight before I go over my reasoning: I'm a PC enthusiast, not a console fanboy. I've never owned a console. First off, on RAM: "Given that the next Xbox will supposedly launch at 8GB, it only seems right that Sony also sticks in a full 8GB of GDDR 5 RAM. Impressive, but it seems like massive overkill to me, so Ill recommend 8GB of DDR3 RAM." You failed to note that it's actually impossible to include high-speed GDDR5 RAM with this system, instead choosing to call it "overkill." When you're recommending parts to people, at least tell them the truth about why you chose a specific part, rather than feeding them lies. My second gripe with the article is found in the "other" section: The rest of the components you can put together from any number of budget parts. So long as the PSU has a PCIe power connector for your graphics card youre good to go. With that and a cheapo chassis you can have the lot for another $50." You're honestly expecting people to find their own power supply when they don't even have the know-how to choose a graphics card? None the less, you're saying that you can fit a high quality power supply and a decent case in a $50 budget, which you can't.

 

Even moreshocking to me where you say "as long as the PSU has a PCIe power connection for your graphics card you're good to go." This is just downright wrong. There is much, much more to buying a power supply than the connections it offers.There are too many low quality power supplies out there with that PCIe power connection included, even though they would literally catch on fire if you came close to providing the power needed for the graphics card and (inefficient) CPU, destroying not only the unit itself, but also every other part in the computer.

 

And then you go on to say that Optical is dead: "Im assuming you have a display, as Id assume a PS4 buyer would have a TV, and youll notice Im not including a Blu-ray drive here. Not because Im trying to stick to a price-point, but because optical medias dead, man. Weve got digital downloads and operating systems that can be installed from USB sticks, so why would we?" Sure, maybe it is dead. But guess what? Windows still comes on a disk! How can you expect a first time builder to know that he has to download it and prepare a flash drive to boot off of for the installation? Are you prepared to have a bunch of poor souls coming back to you crying that they can't find where to put the disk? Finally, you don't even include a legitimate copy of Windows. Add $100 on to your budget, buddy. If you're going to tell people they can build a comparable PC to a console for a similar price, don't lie about it. You're looking at at least $50-$80 for a decent PSU on its own, another $30-$50 for case of acceptable quality, and $100 more for an OEM license of Windows. I'm not including an optical drive in there for argument's sake, and you're still roughly $250 more than your so called "$600 rig." -Razer

 

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#54 LadyBlue
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Read the topic title and realized trolls don't hibernate for the winter.

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#55 AM-Gamer
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http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/02/21/pc-gamer-vs-playstation-4-theres-only-ever-going-to-be-one-winner-right/

 

the hardware going into a ps4 costs about 600$ for a pc equivilent, and isnt even in the same ball park as my machine i built  two yeas ago for 900$ 

Cows am cry, Hermit domination of next gen confirmed.

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LMAO a PS4 or any next gen console would smoke a pc for $600 or the obsolete rig you built two years ago.  Its a console its better optimized and it has better ram.  Not to mention they havent even finished the GPU ye so you are really just babbling. 

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The sticky makes your topic obsolete ;)