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#101  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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@highking_kallor said:

@HalcyonScarlet said:

@kinectthedots said:

@HalcyonScarlet said:

@highking_kallor said:

@HalcyonScarlet said:

@highking_kallor said:

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You have access to a streaming rental service? wow, da **** does this have to do with XBL. cows grasping as usual.

You wanna be happy about this, fine.

Just to point out yet more cow hypocrisy though. Weren't you guys complaining about the proposed Xbox DRM 'what if you lose connection'. Then you're given a Onlive like streaming service which has an absolute reliance on your connection and the quality of it and it's 'WOOOO YEAHHHHHH TEH OWNAGE'. Make up your minds.

Point is that you can use it or not. It is not required like what ms planned. Sure went over your head.

What has that got to do with it? People are claiming ownage for a service that requires a perfect connection if you choose to use it. Did that go over your head?

And you compared it to what ms planned last e3. So why did you say that to start with then if its not related?

Good one.

Re-read what I wrote, I was talking about what you said, not what I said.

Silly billy. I responded to your post about drm. I replied to you! Get it? Maybe you should just learn to read?

You must get into some awkward social situations with your lack of communication skills.

Funny, I'm only having this issue with you.

I was referring to the cows hyping this and the need for a permanent connection whist playing. You started talking about how one was required. In fact if you're in any way planning to use this service, the permanent connection is still required, and it's not once a day that it needs to be checked, it needs a permanent solid connection.

Whether the service is required is irrelevant. You want it, this is the deal, you need to be online worrying about your connection, so how can someone complain about how the connection to one service could effect gameplay, whilst another WILL effect gameplay.

Okay let's take Xbls proposed DRM out of the equation and replace it with possible future use of the Azure cloud service (which would require much less bandwidth than PS Now). Still the connection to one (Azure) could effect gameplay, and with PS Now it WILL effect gameplay, it doesn't even need to go completely, you could lose bandwidth quality during a busy period and you're fucked. But cows still claim ownage? The hypocrisy stands.

Cows complain about Azure 'what if you're not close to a server centre', well MS have spent around 10billion dollars since 2009 building the infrastructure and server centres around the world. So they're still likely in a better position with that.

No, what you are saying is pretty stupid.

Let's put it into context so you can stop saying stupid things. Playing a PS NOW is = to playing any multiplayer online game out now (Titanfall, Battlefield, ect.) you only need to have the online connection when you pay those specific games and you are NOT required to stay connected online with the system or for any other normal offline functions or games where online connection isn't needed.

Also the connection being required is entirely the point. You don't have to subscribe to PS NOW just like you don't have to subscribe to PSN+ to play online multiplayer games to use the system.

I already moved this on to a more suitable comparison to make it easier for you.

So why isn't it the same thing for Azure Cloud gaming. Why then is that reduced to 'latency' and 'what if you lose connection'.

And you're playing a single player game and you lose connection, then what? You've lost your progress. The cows specially make a big deal out of how the connection would effect single player gaming in relation to the Azure Cloud.

Harp on all you want. Yor point is wrong. Get over it move on.

Ah man I was suckered in, no ones that useless at this, just wasted my time.

I tip my hat to you sir. Well played.

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#102 highking_kallor
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@HalcyonScarlet said:

@highking_kallor said:

@HalcyonScarlet said:

@kinectthedots said:

@HalcyonScarlet said:

@highking_kallor said:

@HalcyonScarlet said:

@highking_kallor said:

@HalcyonScarlet said:

@highking_kallor said:

@HalcyonScarlet said:

You have access to a streaming rental service? wow, da **** does this have to do with XBL. cows grasping as usual.

You wanna be happy about this, fine.

Just to point out yet more cow hypocrisy though. Weren't you guys complaining about the proposed Xbox DRM 'what if you lose connection'. Then you're given a Onlive like streaming service which has an absolute reliance on your connection and the quality of it and it's 'WOOOO YEAHHHHHH TEH OWNAGE'. Make up your minds.

Point is that you can use it or not. It is not required like what ms planned. Sure went over your head.

What has that got to do with it? People are claiming ownage for a service that requires a perfect connection if you choose to use it. Did that go over your head?

And you compared it to what ms planned last e3. So why did you say that to start with then if its not related?

Good one.

Re-read what I wrote, I was talking about what you said, not what I said.

Silly billy. I responded to your post about drm. I replied to you! Get it? Maybe you should just learn to read?

You must get into some awkward social situations with your lack of communication skills.

Funny, I'm only having this issue with you.

I was referring to the cows hyping this and the need for a permanent connection whist playing. You started talking about how one was required. In fact if you're in any way planning to use this service, the permanent connection is still required, and it's not once a day that it needs to be checked, it needs a permanent solid connection.

Whether the service is required is irrelevant. You want it, this is the deal, you need to be online worrying about your connection, so how can someone complain about how the connection to one service could effect gameplay, whilst another WILL effect gameplay.

Okay let's take Xbls proposed DRM out of the equation and replace it with possible future use of the Azure cloud service (which would require much less bandwidth than PS Now). Still the connection to one (Azure) could effect gameplay, and with PS Now it WILL effect gameplay, it doesn't even need to go completely, you could lose bandwidth quality during a busy period and you're fucked. But cows still claim ownage? The hypocrisy stands.

Cows complain about Azure 'what if you're not close to a server centre', well MS have spent around 10billion dollars since 2009 building the infrastructure and server centres around the world. So they're still likely in a better position with that.

No, what you are saying is pretty stupid.

Let's put it into context so you can stop saying stupid things. Playing a PS NOW is = to playing any multiplayer online game out now (Titanfall, Battlefield, ect.) you only need to have the online connection when you pay those specific games and you are NOT required to stay connected online with the system or for any other normal offline functions or games where online connection isn't needed.

Also the connection being required is entirely the point. You don't have to subscribe to PS NOW just like you don't have to subscribe to PSN+ to play online multiplayer games to use the system.

I already moved this on to a more suitable comparison to make it easier for you.

So why isn't it the same thing for Azure Cloud gaming. Why then is that reduced to 'latency' and 'what if you lose connection'.

And you're playing a single player game and you lose connection, then what? You've lost your progress. The cows specially make a big deal out of how the connection would effect single player gaming in relation to the Azure Cloud.

Harp on all you want. Yor point is wrong. Get over it move on.

Ah man I was suckered in, no ones that useless at this, just wasted my time.

I tip my hat to you sir. Well played.

Yep you sure swallowed. Almost made me feel bad with the amount of effort you put into your response. Didn’t tho as I’m a full on psychopath.

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#103 Spartan070
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I hope this is very reasonably priced, many of the PSN titles are priced very low already, I don't want to rent a game for 75% of the cost of buying it.

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#104  Edited By FoxbatAlpha
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PSN NOW! The future in the form of the past. FAIL.

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#105 slimdogmilionar
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I heard they are releasing the beta codes in waves, IS this true? I was kinda bummed I didn't get one but my friend did.

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#106 The-Apostle
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@xboxdone74 said:

@lostrib: 1 day 7 days. 30 days

Really? This sucks... Was hoping for better. :(

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#107 Spartan070
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@lostrib: 1 day 7 days. 30 days

Really? This sucks... Was hoping for better. :(

Well if you read a review for a game that said "amazing gameplay but only a 7-hour campaign"then the 1-day option would be pretty appealing right? :P

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#108  Edited By Jankarcop
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This is good since playstation exclusives, even the greatest ones, are at best rentals.

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#109  Edited By AdobeArtist  Moderator
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I can see this being beneficial for those short games. Depending on the pricing structure, but say a week's rental costs $10. You pay that, and go through a game that's 8-10 hrs. And since most people don't have that much time in a single day (work, sleep, social obligations, etc...) so let's assume they need 1 week instead of a day rental.

They use that 1 week play time, complete the game and still saved $50.

But we need to see the pricing structure to gauge its viability.

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#110  Edited By blackace
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@xboxdone74 said:

http://youtu.be/2IGqkj1agCU

Here comes, the Domination.

Don't even need it. I have a PS3 that still plays all my PS3, PS2 and PS1 games without having to rent them for a fee and deal with terrible lag. This is really for hardcore gamers who were foolish enough to sell or get rid of their PS3 and PS2 systems just to get a PS4.

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But they already had a rental service with PSN+

True and as long as I get free games to play every month why would I bother with PSNow? If Sony keeps having those $1 Flash Sales you'll never need it.

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#111  Edited By deactivated-5f19d4c9d7318
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@AdobeArtist said:

I can see this being beneficial for those short games. Depending on the pricing structure, but say a week's rental costs $10. You pay that, and go through a game that's 8-10 hrs. And since most people don't have that much time in a single day (work, sleep, social obligations, etc...) so let's assume they need 1 week instead of a day rental.

They use that 1 week play time, complete the game and still saved $50.

But we need to see the pricing structure to gauge its viability.

This, it's why i stick to retail currently as i know i can get £25 on a trade in for most of the big games if i don't get more than 10hrs out of them. I miss Blockbuster a bit as i used to rent for even cheaper prices and this could remove the problem of the big games being unavailable until weeks after launch as they'd already been rented out.

It seems that Sony sees streaming as a potential future for video games and i don't blame them. The ability to put games across pretty much any platform with a stable internet connection offers a lot.

Anyway seeing rentals in the future of digital games is a big plus point for me and if they get it up and running might just be the reason to get me to switch.

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#112 blackace
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@lostrib said:

@xboxdone74 said:

@lostrib: 1 day 7 days. 30 days

is that per game?

How much for 1 day? How much for 7 days? How much for 30 days? How much for 1 year?

That's what Sony isn't telling us.

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#113  Edited By _SWAG_
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you gotta give it up to sony, they straight beastin this gen again. they have a profetic vision how gaming should be. this sony rental gaming service will kill redbox blockbuster and gamefly all together. sony turn it up another notch! we salute you godny you the best imho facts

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#114 Blabadon
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@_SWAG_ said:

they have a profetic vision

This sounds gross

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#115 blackace
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@_SWAG_ said:

you gotta give it up to sony, they straight beastin this gen again. they have a profetic vision how gaming should be. this sony rental gaming service will kill redbox blockbuster and gamefly all together. sony turn it up another notch! we salute you godny you the best imho facts

I doubt that. Especially if the games are laggy and lose connection sporadically. Having a physically disk will always be better overall. Most gamers will just stick with PS+ and be happy with that.