PS4 Pro gets full SATA 3 support [Rumour]

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#1 Desmonic  Moderator
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Not sure if this is legit or not, so take it as you will.

Story:

They say SIE people contacted them today for the request of editing article to state PS4 Pro does support SATA Rev.3 (original said it only supports up to Rev.2), so I believe that's legit.

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http://www.4gamer.net/games/990/G999024/20161013003/ (Japanese, have fun).

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1293548

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220041802&postcount=1916 (original comment)

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Awesome if true, SATA3 was already needed in 2013 when the PS4 and XB1 released. Hopefully all consoles moving forward support at least SATA3. Wonder if they'll ever go for PCIe M.2 SSD support though...that would be legit insane (in a great way, mind you!) and honestly seems like the logical step. Could potentially, in the long run, help developers make clever use of data transfer speeds (think, for example, loading Fallout 4 in it's entirety in a few seconds and/or, in cooperation with a better GPU, "hide" pop-in/loading assets much better by loading them blazingly fast) if the base units support these fast standards.

Granted, SSD's are still expensive as crap (in terms of 500GB+ ones) but baby steps I guess.

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#2 HavocV3
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SATA 2 is from 2004.

Jesus ****, Sony is cheap.

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#3 deactivated-60bf765068a74
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Sony pushing the industry foward day by day.

PS5 will probably have an SSD and some crazy good stuff couple years from now man I love this company just what a great company.

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#4 MGS2007
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Please let this be true.

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#5 Desmonic  Moderator
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@HavocV3 said:

SATA 2 is from 2004.

Jesus ****, Sony is cheap.

And SATA 3 is from 2009-ish (I think). Don't think any current console has any SATA 3 support though (but not sure).

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#6 speedfog
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The Xbox One S has a SATA3 Harddrive inside, altough replacing it removes your warrenty, it is possible. Not sure about the infrastructure tough.

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#7 inggrish
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Hope that's true. Any word as to if it's still same size hard drive? In wanting to be able to put in 3.5 drives...

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#8 Juub1990
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@ProtossRushX:

>Pushing the industry forward

>No 4K Blu-Ray player

>Still lacks a 7 year old technology

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#9 SecretPolice
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So nice I had to use this twice...

That is all. lololol P

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#10 Desmonic  Moderator
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@SecretPolice: U wot m8.

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#11 SecretPolice
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@Desmonic:

lol :P

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#12 DaVillain  Moderator  Online
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@Desmonic: Well, the Samsung 850 EVO 4TB SSD is supposed to fit, which uses SATA III.

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#13 stereointegrity
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@davillain- said:

@Desmonic: Well, the Samsung 850 EVO 4TB SSD is supposed to fit, which uses SATA III.

so much money tho...

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#14  Edited By Desmonic  Moderator
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@davillain-: ....Okay? SATA3 or SATA2 has nothing to do with the physical size of the actual SSD. Also that SSD costs 1399$ bro. You could buy, literally, 3 PS4 Pros with that kind of money AND still have some change.

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#15  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator  Online
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@Desmonic said:

@davillain-: ....Okay? SATA3 or SATA2 has nothing to do with the physical size of the actual SSD. Also that SSD costs 1399$ bro. You could buy, literally, 3 PS4 Pros with that kind of money AND still have some change.

I meant to say 1TB, sorry about the error on my part. Okay I need to go get me some Coffee now.

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#16 Desmonic  Moderator
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@davillain-: A lot more reasonable :P

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#17 pyro1245
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heh. I would think at this point you'd have to try to not have SATA III support.

I'm not sure why Sony doesn't have a model with and SSD already installed. Even at SATA II speeds it's still much faster than a regular HDD, especially a 5400 RPM HDD. They could probably offer a 500GB model for only $100 more or so (which is IMO plenty of space. I don't need more games installed than that and I have fast enough internet to download them as needed).

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#18 tushar172787
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There you go folks, SATA 3 is now a "pro" feature!

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#19 JasonOfA36
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SATA 3 wasn't fully supported until 2011. CPUs from 2009 couldn't actually fully utilize SATA 3 back then. But still, it's a 5 year old tech that's only been introduced to consoles just now. Pathetic.

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#20  Edited By freedom01  Moderator
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I would rather have them make the PS4 Pro be able to support a 4TB 2.5" 15mm HDD.

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@ProtossRushX said:

Sony pushing the industry foward day by day.

PS5 will probably have an SSD and some crazy good stuff couple years from now man I love this company just what a great company.

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#22 lamprey263
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Why bringing this up like it's old tech? Of course it is. Stuff has to become more affordable.

Plus, Xbox utilized it first in the Xbox One S while Sony was hiding the Neo.

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#23 raugutcon
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Great ! ..... hey, wait a minute, still no external storage support for games ?!? Damn, down the drain goes my enthusiasm.....

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#24  Edited By 04dcarraher
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Here is the thing folks.... mechanical harddrive and bluray drives dont even saturate a SATA 1 port speeds ie 150MB/s. Only items that would actually would need the SATA 2/3 speeds are SSHD's and SSD's. So as long as they continue to use mechanical harddrives it makes no difference if their using SATA 2 or 3

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Ooooooooooooooohhhh!

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#26  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@lamprey263: It's not being utilized in the Xbox One S because it still has a slow ass internal drive that can't be removed without voiding the warranty.

Hope I can find a quality 1TB SSD on sale during Black Friday/Cyber Monday. I'll sacrifice the storage capacity for speed at this point. Should also help with asset streaming. Gonna wait until Digital Foundry verifies the performance gains though.

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#27 Desmonic  Moderator
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@04dcarraher:

Difference being, the PS3 & PS4 (in all their variants) allow you, the user, to remove and replace the internal HDD with anything you want, as long as it fits. So having SATA3, allows you to get an SSD and actually enjoy it without breaking any warranty, or even too much trouble (access to the HDD bay is pretty simple and easy).

I can't confirm as I don't own one, but some are saying the XB1S, despite having SATA3 tech, does not allow you to replace it's HDD with anything else without breaking the warranty. Which is kinda lame if true, though again I personally can't confirm.

All that said, and as I've already mentioned, these standards should have been there from 2013. Kinda silly that it took this long for MS and Sony to implement them.

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#28  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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@HavocV3 said:

SATA 2 is from 2004.

Jesus ****, Sony is cheap.

Maybe, but the HDD is only at 5400RPM, even for a 7200RPM HDD, sata 2 is okay. Sata 2 only really holds back SSDs I think. Even sata 3 isn't the best for SSDs, PCI Express is.

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#29 Howmakewood
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guess I can add another 850 samsung 1tb to my pro order if this is true

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#30  Edited By A-new-Guardian
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So when are we getting SATA 4?

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#31 soul_starter
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what's SATA?

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#32  Edited By 04dcarraher
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@a-new-guardian said:

So when are we getting SATA 4?

We have SATA 3.2 aka SATA Express, which actually uses PCI-E lanes too.

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@a-new-guardian said:

So when are we getting SATA 4?

Probably never. PCIe NVME M.2 drives are the future. With SATA Express DOA and M.2 form factor being superior, it's unlikely traditional drives have a future beyond SATA 3.

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#34 Desmonic  Moderator
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@The_Stand_In: I wish Sony & MS had the "balls" (per say) to go all in with PCIe M.2 Support for their proper "next gen" devices (so anything after the Scorpio and after the PS4 Pro).

That'd be an insane jump from what we have now. Though, at best I seem them putting some cheap SSD's with SATA3 in them and that's that (of course that would already be a nice upgrade from what we have now).

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#35 osan0
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@Desmonic: if they are going to use an SSD you can bet its going to be a very small capacity. if they use carts for their next gen systems too though then games wont need to be installed. so....carts for the PS5 and X2 anyone?

anywho...the PS4 doesnt use SATA 3? is there a higher licensing fee or something? my old PC has Sata 3 and it was built in 2010-ish. why would they not use SATA3?

not that it makes a difference for a 5400RPM HDD. but i didnt think there would be any cost difference between implementing sata 2 and 3 for the PS4.

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#36 Desmonic  Moderator
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@osan0: Scorpio S and PS4 Pro are the only two consoles, right now, that support (or will support) SATA 3. We can assume Scorpio will too though.

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@ProtossRushX said:

Sony pushing the industry foward day by day.

PS5 will probably have an SSD and some crazy good stuff couple years from now man I love this company just what a great company.

You're the worst troll... or the most delusional fanboy I've ever seen.