PS4 Rumors: APU Radeon HD 7970, GPU Steamroller CPU 16GB

The hardware If something is a goal for me was that it was getting hold of a photograph of the PlayStation 4 itself, but this is sadly failed. The PlayStation 4 is still only on paper but a console for developers and only a select few people know how the device actually really look like. Sony also find it not necessary to the looks of the PS4 to share with developers, because here they simply have nothing. Of course, Sony then also a good point, but this is obviously bad for us. What I have got is a very comprehensive document on the specifications of the PlayStation 4. Thus, the PlayStation 4 AMD Fusion APU get with the CPU and GPU sit together on the same chip. The code name for this chip is 'Liverpool' According developers would chip in "real talk" over 10x longer than that of the PS3 can. It would be a quad-core AMD x86 CPU running at 3.2GHz which contain the code name 'Steamroller' know. The GPU is an ATI r10xx at 800MHz with 1843 GFLOPS, this is code-named "Tahiti." This chip is also include on AMD Radeon HD 7970, both chips (CPU and GPU) are 28nm processors. In terms of memory, there is much uncertainty with the PlayStation 4, as was the initial plan for Sony 2GB unified memory in the machine to stop. This is still only a point for discussion and developers ask whether this really can be brought up to 4GB, these choices are viewed by Sony. For comparison, the Wii you would to contain 1.5 GB of memory. In terms of disc drive the PlayStation 4 will again be equipped with Blu-Ray, the space offers a Blu-Ray disc (50GB) is in fact still remains enough and so we use this technology. The back of the PS4 you will have a HDMI 1.4 port to put in and it will have a maximum output of 1080 and not the aforementioned 2048p. In total, during the launch two PlayStation 4 are available, both are only equipped with a hard drive larger than 320GB. In terms of bundles, there are no concrete plans at Sony. What the exact difference between the two we do not know, but this is probably just the hard drive size. Also, the PS4 will have a special place for patches, OS etc this is stored on an internal 16 GB of flash storage.

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Tikeio

I could see a 7970 being in the ps4. Two years from now that will be old.

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Tikeio

"599$...if this is even possible. I massively call BS...I don't see Sony making the same mistake twice."

Well, they may make the pricing mistake a second time, but at least if that's true, they're not making the hardware mistake again (cell).

And 16GB flash for the OS to boot off of, though interesting, isn't any of the core functioning of the console. (Ram)If they do 2gb they've failed, 4gb they're skimping(and failed) 8gb is 'on par' (with previous generations gains) anymore would be a surprise.

Your title made me think they were doing 16gb ram, not flash. : /

I could see a 7970 being in the ps4. Two years from now that will be old.

slipknot0129

Why do threads like this get made based on rumors that are so obviously false?

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

I could see a 7970 being in the ps4. Two years from now that will be old.

04dcarraher

These console spec rumors are getting old.Stevo_the_gamer

Why do threads like this get made based on rumors that are so obviously false?

hoola

These console spec rumors are getting old.Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

I could see a 7970 being in the ps4. Two years from now that will be old.

CwlHeddwyn

Xbox's cooling solution was flawed and cheap, causing the failures. As it is, modern gpu's ARE in a tiny box, self-contained to keep the airflow steady over the heatsinks.

Cooling has massively improved, or we'd have fried gpu's galore, a 7800gtx cooler couldn't dream of cooling a 680gtx.

And modern gpus, off the shelf, are in 'no' danger of overheating, pretty big headroom for cooling, so a smaller box, with more heat generating crap in it isn't going to fry it so easily, so long as they don't go and try to overclock it. Maybe underclock it instead! (a little)

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]These console spec rumors are getting old.mitu123

Why do threads like this get made based on rumors that are so obviously false?

hoola

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

I could see a 7970 being in the ps4. Two years from now that will be old.

CwlHeddwyn

I can imagine them basing the GPU off of the 7000 series, but it won't be a 7970. They may share a similar architecture though.

[QUOTE="CwlHeddwyn"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"] The rumor has been shot down, a 7970 is a 260w TDP GPU, Sony cant afford the the cooling and power needed for a gpu like that. and keep their next console cost effective. Inconsistancy

Xbox's cooling solution was flawed and cheap, causing the failures. As it is, modern gpu's ARE in a tiny box, self-contained to keep the airflow steady over the heatsinks.

Cooling has massively improved, or we'd have fried gpu's galore, a 7800gtx cooler couldn't dream of cooling a 680gtx.

I can imagine them basing the GPU off of the 7000 series, but it won't be a 7970. They may share a similar architecture though.

Wasdie

i don't see how 599$ is expensive

When xbox360 costed 400$ + 80$ wifi, 20$ battery recharge pack and 350$ online play for 7 years

Thats 850$ for one console

The only thing we can agree on about PS4 is that it'll have the 50GB blu ray capacity, maybe... possibly 2GB RAM but Sony aren't exactly the best when it comes to hardware and they seem to cheap out on RAM to cut costs. I'd like at least 2GB RAM but I recon we'll see that as being total system RAM plus video RAM.JohnF111

PS1 2mb x 16
PS2 32mb x 16
PS3 512mb x 16
PS4...8192, if any less then they're skimping.

2000 would be a 'massive' skimp, that's wii territory, and modern games can already chew up 2gb of vram (crysis2), utterly non-future proof, it's not even modern proof.

stop with these bs rumours it

no way they will make an current hardcore high end gaming rig hardware in a console in a year or 2

I love all these next gen rumors.tagyhag

stop with these bs rumours it

no way they will make an current hardcore high end gaming rig hardware in a console in a year or 2

quebec946

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]I love all these next gen rumors.mitu123

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

I could see a 7970 being in the ps4. Two years from now that will be old.

04dcarraher

stop with these bs rumours it

no way they will make an current hardcore high end gaming rig hardware in a console in a year or 2

quebec946

Sony didn't make a mistake with the PS3, silly guys. The hardware was supposed to be powerful! I want the PS4 to be even more powerful. Stop complaining about the price and go and get a job.

PS4 will have........... 5D. It doesn't RROD, it just turns into a singularity when it crashes.

Sony didn't make a mistake with the PS3, silly guys. The hardware was supposed to be powerful! I want the PS4 to be even more powerful. Stop complaining about the price and go and get a job.

GamerwillzPS

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Sony didn't make a mistake with the PS3, silly guys. The hardware was supposed to be powerful! I want the PS4 to be even more powerful. Stop complaining about the price and go and get a job.

mitu123

Who cares? It has kick ass games that no other consoles have.

But still, the PS3 is selling really well and Sony seems happy with it. That's all that matters.

Microsoft made a huge mistake with the 360, IMO. Xbox Live fees, all add-ons such as Wi-Fi adapter, batteries for controller, none upgradeable hard drive, etc.

I don't know why the 360 sold more. It's a mystery. No games, Xbox Live fees and inferior hardware - and people still buy them. When you add all of that stuff up, it's more expensive than PS3.

Xbox 360 buyers are stupid. I would probably get flamed over this, but that's my opinion.

Sony didn't make a mistake with the PS3, silly guys. The hardware was supposed to be powerful! I want the PS4 to be even more powerful. Stop complaining about the price and go and get a job.

GamerwillzPS

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Sony didn't make a mistake with the PS3, silly guys. The hardware was supposed to be powerful! I want the PS4 to be even more powerful. Stop complaining about the price and go and get a job.

GamerwillzPS

Who cares? It has kick ass games that no other consoles have.

But still, the PS3 is selling really well and Sony seems happy with it. That's all that matters.

Microsoft made a huge mistake with the 360, IMO. Xbox Live fees, all add-ons such as Wi-Fi adapter, batteries for controller, none upgradeable hard drive, etc.

I don't know why the 360 sold more. It's a mystery. No games, Xbox Live fees and inferior hardware - and people still buy them. When you add all of that stuff up, it's more expensive than PS3.

Xbox 360 buyers are stupid. I would probably get flamed over this, but that's my opinion.

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Sony didn't make a mistake with the PS3, silly guys. The hardware was supposed to be powerful! I want the PS4 to be even more powerful. Stop complaining about the price and go and get a job.

GamerwillzPS

Who cares? It has kick ass games that no other consoles have.

But still, the PS3 is selling really well and Sony seems happy with it. That's all that matters.

Microsoft made a huge mistake with the 360, IMO. Xbox Live fees, all add-ons such as Wi-Fi adapter, batteries for controller, none upgradeable hard drive, etc.

I don't know why the 360 sold more. It's a mystery. No games, Xbox Live fees and inferior hardware - and people still buy them. When you add all of that stuff up, it's more expensive than PS3.

Xbox 360 buyers are stupid. I would probably get flamed over this, but that's my opinion.

PS4 = capable of unmanned flights for ALL F-18, F-22 fighters, and stealth bombers.

This is actually one of the more feasible rumors going around.

Consoles are always at where the top computer gpu is at when they first come out. All these gpu makers want the consoles to have the best. It would be beneficial to all. So that computer games wont be held back by the primitive graphics of the consoles. I bet the console makers get a big discount from using a more top of the line gpu because it creates more reasons for computer gamers to buy their gpu's.

People it's not all about price with these consoles. It's a big part of it but people seem to forget about size cooling and power consumption of a GPU like that. never going to happen unless you want a big console like a desktop

Consoles are always at where the top computer gpu is at when they first come out. All these gpu makers want the consoles to have the best. It would be beneficial to all. So that computer games wont be held back by the primitive graphics of the consoles. I bet the console makers get a big discount from using a more top of the line gpu because it creates more reasons for computer gamers to buy their gpu's.

slipknot0129

Yeah but this gen has had a huge influx of very poweful GPUs. No way a console is going to have a kepler GPU in it and be efficient. It needs adequate cooling and a sufficient PSU to boot. Also a 680 now costs a lot of money. Consoles will be lucky if they get a 560Tis power next gen.

But hey, if I'm wrong then at least we'll get superb looking games

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

Consoles are always at where the top computer gpu is at when they first come out. All these gpu makers want the consoles to have the best. It would be beneficial to all. So that computer games wont be held back by the primitive graphics of the consoles. I bet the console makers get a big discount from using a more top of the line gpu because it creates more reasons for computer gamers to buy their gpu's.

seanmcloughlin

Yeah but this gen has had a huge influx of very poweful GPUs. No way a console is going to have a kepler GPU in it and be efficient. It needs adequate cooling and a sufficient PSU to boot. Also a 680 now costs a lot of money. Consoles will be lucky if they get a 560Tis power next gen.

But hey, if I'm wrong then at least we'll get superb looking games

Remember, console architecture is different from PC architecture. Console GPU's can very well have some advanced features available only on high-end cards, next gen console can very well end up sporting some sort of 480-560 Ti-tier GPU at a reasonable price.

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

Consoles are always at where the top computer gpu is at when they first come out. All these gpu makers want the consoles to have the best. It would be beneficial to all. So that computer games wont be held back by the primitive graphics of the consoles. I bet the console makers get a big discount from using a more top of the line gpu because it creates more reasons for computer gamers to buy their gpu's.

XVision84

Yeah but this gen has had a huge influx of very poweful GPUs. No way a console is going to have a kepler GPU in it and be efficient. It needs adequate cooling and a sufficient PSU to boot. Also a 680 now costs a lot of money. Consoles will be lucky if they get a 560Tis power next gen.

But hey, if I'm wrong then at least we'll get superb looking games

Remember, console architecture is different from PC architecture. Console GPU's can very well have some advanced features available only on high-end cards, next gen console can very well end up sporting some sort of 480-560 Ti-tier GPU at a reasonable price.

Yeah. Besides, some of you seem to have blinders on in terms of your analysis of the past. The 1950 XTX and 7900 GT were just as gigantic and red hot as today's expensive GPUs and consoles managed to utilize their equivalents.

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

Consoles are always at where the top computer gpu is at when they first come out. All these gpu makers want the consoles to have the best. It would be beneficial to all. So that computer games wont be held back by the primitive graphics of the consoles. I bet the console makers get a big discount from using a more top of the line gpu because it creates more reasons for computer gamers to buy their gpu's.

XVision84

Yeah but this gen has had a huge influx of very poweful GPUs. No way a console is going to have a kepler GPU in it and be efficient. It needs adequate cooling and a sufficient PSU to boot. Also a 680 now costs a lot of money. Consoles will be lucky if they get a 560Tis power next gen.

But hey, if I'm wrong then at least we'll get superb looking games

Remember, console architecture is different from PC architecture. Console GPU's can very well have some advanced features available only on high-end cards, next gen console can very well end up sporting some sort of 480-560 Ti-tier GPU at a reasonable price.

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Yeah but this gen has had a huge influx of very poweful GPUs. No way a console is going to have a kepler GPU in it and be efficient. It needs adequate cooling and a sufficient PSU to boot. Also a 680 now costs a lot of money. Consoles will be lucky if they get a 560Tis power next gen.

But hey, if I'm wrong then at least we'll get superb looking games

Magescrew

Remember, console architecture is different from PC architecture. Console GPU's can very well have some advanced features available only on high-end cards, next gen console can very well end up sporting some sort of 480-560 Ti-tier GPU at a reasonable price.

Yeah. Besides, some of you seem to have blinders on in terms of your analysis of the past. The 1950 XTX and 7900 GT were just as gigantic and red hot as today's expensive GPUs and consoles managed to utilize their equivalents.

[QUOTE="Magescrew"]

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

Remember, console architecture is different from PC architecture. Console GPU's can very well have some advanced features available only on high-end cards, next gen console can very well end up sporting some sort of 480-560 Ti-tier GPU at a reasonable price.

04dcarraher

Yeah. Besides, some of you seem to have blinders on in terms of your analysis of the past. The 1950 XTX and 7900 GT were just as gigantic and red hot as today's expensive GPUs and consoles managed to utilize their equivalents.

Modern gpus also have much more headroom, in cooling, than their predecessors. If it 'was' the end all issue, then we'd already be frying gpus's, but we're not at the absolute limit yet. I had a ATi9800 fry itself, and that certainly doesn't draw much power, not nearly enough for a modern gpu to fry itself, even w/o a fan.

A lot of the 360's issues were due to skimping on quality parts and morons putting xbox's in cabinets. It's not that they couldn't be cooled, they just cut corners.

Also... the 7900/1950xtx were a good bit more powerful than the consoles, the PS3's is something of a cut down 7800gt and the xbox's is a transitional x1800xt type thing, with a lower core clock (by 125mhz). And the reason PS3's 7800ish was cut down a bit was probably to make it cheaper since they threw so much money at the cell and blu-ray, not that they couldn't figure out how to cool the damn thing.