PS4 = slightly bellow Mid range PC. Xbone = entry level PC

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#1 NFJSupreme
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Well we new this already but Digital Foundry built a mid-range "next-gen" PC to go head to head with next gen consoles (particularly the PS4). The results aren't shocking. Midrange PC smokes next gen consoles in everything but crappy ports like COD.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-the-next-gen-digital-foundry-pc

PS4 gamers should be happy with their console. Xbone gamers should be happy their media box can play games this well.

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#2 FoxbatAlpha
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LOL, no.

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#3  Edited By uninspiredcup
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Most people play on tablets and mobiles than "desktop". The very concept of "desktop" pc is antiquated. A tiny group of elitists desperately clinging to the past while the rest of the world moves on.

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#4 NFJSupreme
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

LOL, no.

what exactly were you expecting the results to be? PS4 coming out on top? lol

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Tell me when I can play Infamous SS, Halo 5, Forza 5 & Horizon, Crackdown 3, The Order 1886, Uncharted 4 and dozens of other quality exclusives on this £500 PC. When I can get those games on PC I wouldn't mind paying £1000 for it.

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#6 AM-Gamer
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@uninspiredcup: I'm surprised you said that.

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@Harisemo said:

Tell me when I can play Infamous SS, Halo 5, Forza 5 & Horizon, Crackdown 3, The Order 1886, Uncharted 4 and dozens of other quality exclusives on this £500 PC. When I can get those games on PC I wouldn't mind paying £1000 for it.

Do you even understand the meaning of exclusive?

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#8  Edited By AM-Gamer
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The Ps4 will smoke that build overtime, most multiplats are just rushed pc ports for now.

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@clyde46 said:

@Harisemo said:

Tell me when I can play Infamous SS, Halo 5, Forza 5 & Horizon, Crackdown 3, The Order 1886, Uncharted 4 and dozens of other quality exclusives on this £500 PC. When I can get those games on PC I wouldn't mind paying £1000 for it.

Do you even understand the meaning of exclusive?

Yes

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Lol, No

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@NFJSupreme said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

LOL, no.

what exactly were you expecting the results to be? PS4 coming out on top? lol

In every test i have run (with all layers of the SOC unlocked and DX12 implemented) THE ONE comes out on top. Every single time.

Right now the civilian version of THE ONE is still pretty much in beta.

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@Harisemo said:

Tell me when I can play Infamous SS, Halo 5, Forza 5 & Horizon, Crackdown 3, The Order 1886, Uncharted 4 and dozens of other quality exclusives on this £500 PC. When I can get those games on PC I wouldn't mind paying £1000 for it.

You're right you cant play those on PC. The point being made is of the technical power not the game library. Its like saying "Hey did you know you can have a hand made burger with the freshest of ingredients and best quality service at this restaurant just over the road." and you turn round and say "Can I have a Big Mac?" "Erm no...." "well McDonalds give me big macs so I refuse to eat superior food elsewhere"

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@Harisemo said:

Tell me when I can play Infamous SS, Halo 5, Forza 5 & Horizon, Crackdown 3, The Order 1886, Uncharted 4 and dozens of other quality exclusives on this £500 PC. When I can get those games on PC I wouldn't mind paying £1000 for it.

This is an excellent point. A £1000 PC isn't worth the price if all you can play is buggy unfinished RUST/Mincraft/Dayz indie titles.

Consoles have all the blockbusters AAA million dollar 96% metacritic franchises.

Your duel Nvidia Titans don't mean much if all you are playing is a video game with visuals from 2001.

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#14  Edited By NFJSupreme
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@Harisemo said:

Tell me when I can play Infamous SS, Halo 5, Forza 5 & Horizon, Crackdown 3, The Order 1886, Uncharted 4 and dozens of other quality exclusives on this £500 PC. When I can get those games on PC I wouldn't mind paying £1000 for it.

I get that you love your consoles but no need to go into full DC mode. Just letting you know how your console stacks up to the rest of its weight class.

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@o0squishy0o said:

@Harisemo said:

Tell me when I can play Infamous SS, Halo 5, Forza 5 & Horizon, Crackdown 3, The Order 1886, Uncharted 4 and dozens of other quality exclusives on this £500 PC. When I can get those games on PC I wouldn't mind paying £1000 for it.

You're right you cant play those on PC. The point being made is of the technical power not the game library. Its like saying "Hey did you know you can have a hand made burger with the freshest of ingredients and best quality service at this restaurant just over the road." and you turn round and say "Can I have a Big Mac?" "Erm no...." "well McDonalds give me big macs so I refuse to eat superior food elsewhere"

Everyone knows consoles can't match PCs raw power and your burger example is good enough to convey my point. If I want big mac (console exclusives) then Imma eat big mac! If I can get better tasting food elsewhere then I'll go there even if it costs more than big mac.

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@NFJSupreme said:

@Harisemo said:

Tell me when I can play Infamous SS, Halo 5, Forza 5 & Horizon, Crackdown 3, The Order 1886, Uncharted 4 and dozens of other quality exclusives on this £500 PC. When I can get those games on PC I wouldn't mind paying £1000 for it.

I get that you love your consoles but no need to go into full DC mode. Just letting you know how your console stacks up to the rest of its weight class.

No DC, homie. I like gaming and if there are games on PC I want to play then I'd go for it. £500 or £1000

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@AM-Gamer said:

The Ps4 will smoke that build overtime, most multiplayer are just rushed pc ports for now.

You mean the cheap ass tablet CPU and a 570 level GPU will become i7 and 780Ti overtime? :D

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@AM-Gamer said:

The Ps4 will smoke that build overtime, most multiplayer are just rushed pc ports for now.

I really find hard to follow your logic here. The fact is that "NOW" the gap (in performance and graphics) this PC have from consoles will remain the same in 5 years and so on.

For example, a PC from 2006 with a 8800GTX(etc), was performing in games much better than consoles, the SAME was true in 2013 (7 years after) when the 7th console generation ended. I mean take a recent random multiplat and you will see that a 8800(or equivalent) still play games with much better performance and graphics than consoles(ps3, 360) like it did back in 2006.

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#19  Edited By zeeshanhaider
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@Harisemo said:

Tell me when I can play Infamous SS, Halo 5, Forza 5 & Horizon, Crackdown 3, The Order 1886, Uncharted 4 and dozens of other quality exclusives on this £500 PC. When I can get those games on PC I wouldn't mind paying £1000 for it.

What games? You only listed linear onrails QTE fest movies that can be experienced for free on Youtube.

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@Harisemo said:

Tell me when I can play Infamous SS, Halo 5, Forza 5 & Horizon, Crackdown 3, The Order 1886, Uncharted 4 and dozens of other quality exclusives on this £500 PC. When I can get those games on PC I wouldn't mind paying £1000 for it.

You need to buy two consoles to play those games.....

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#21 lostrib
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no shit sherlock

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I must admit, I wish I could get the games and experience's you get on Xbox One on a PC as I'd buy one in a heart beat. I actually like the Kinect integration and simplicity of the console os, PC's OS are too busy with anti virus and firewalls and all the other bits you get with a PC to make it a switch on and go games machine. I have a laptop that could play Titanfall better than my Xbox One but I'll still get it for Xbox one for that reason.

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@Sushiglutton said:

@Harisemo said:

Tell me when I can play Infamous SS, Halo 5, Forza 5 & Horizon, Crackdown 3, The Order 1886, Uncharted 4 and dozens of other quality exclusives on this £500 PC. When I can get those games on PC I wouldn't mind paying £1000 for it.

You need to buy two consoles to play those games.....

I'm saying price and power are irrelevant in these comparisons. If PC has all the games you want then go for it even if it's £500 or £1000. Consoles have the games I want, now even if I could get build high end PC for free I still wouldn't ditch the consoles.

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@Harisemo said:

@Sushiglutton said:

@Harisemo said:

Tell me when I can play Infamous SS, Halo 5, Forza 5 & Horizon, Crackdown 3, The Order 1886, Uncharted 4 and dozens of other quality exclusives on this £500 PC. When I can get those games on PC I wouldn't mind paying £1000 for it.

You need to buy two consoles to play those games.....

I'm saying price and power are irrelevant in these comparisons. If PC has all the games you want then go for it even if it's £500 or £1000. Consoles have the games I want, now even if I could get build high end PC for free I still wouldn't ditch the consoles.

If we're talking about things that are irrelevant, exclusives are entirely irrelevant to this thread. They are talking about power, and a little about price

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@lostrib said:

@Harisemo said:

@Sushiglutton said:

@Harisemo said:

Tell me when I can play Infamous SS, Halo 5, Forza 5 & Horizon, Crackdown 3, The Order 1886, Uncharted 4 and dozens of other quality exclusives on this £500 PC. When I can get those games on PC I wouldn't mind paying £1000 for it.

You need to buy two consoles to play those games.....

I'm saying price and power are irrelevant in these comparisons. If PC has all the games you want then go for it even if it's £500 or £1000. Consoles have the games I want, now even if I could get build high end PC for free I still wouldn't ditch the consoles.

If we're talking about things that are irrelevant, exclusives are entirely irrelevant to this thread. They are talking about power, and a little about price

Exclusives make proper use of platform hardware my friend. Pc has none. Playstation has them all.

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@uninspiredcup said:

@lostrib said:

@Harisemo said:

@Sushiglutton said:

@Harisemo said:

Tell me when I can play Infamous SS, Halo 5, Forza 5 & Horizon, Crackdown 3, The Order 1886, Uncharted 4 and dozens of other quality exclusives on this £500 PC. When I can get those games on PC I wouldn't mind paying £1000 for it.

You need to buy two consoles to play those games.....

I'm saying price and power are irrelevant in these comparisons. If PC has all the games you want then go for it even if it's £500 or £1000. Consoles have the games I want, now even if I could get build high end PC for free I still wouldn't ditch the consoles.

If we're talking about things that are irrelevant, exclusives are entirely irrelevant to this thread. They are talking about power, and a little about price

Exclusives make proper use of platform hardware my friend. Pc has none. Playstation has them all.

Provably false. and still irrelevant. Try again

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@lostrib said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@lostrib said:

@Harisemo said:

@Sushiglutton said:

@Harisemo said:

Tell me when I can play Infamous SS, Halo 5, Forza 5 & Horizon, Crackdown 3, The Order 1886, Uncharted 4 and dozens of other quality exclusives on this £500 PC. When I can get those games on PC I wouldn't mind paying £1000 for it.

You need to buy two consoles to play those games.....

I'm saying price and power are irrelevant in these comparisons. If PC has all the games you want then go for it even if it's £500 or £1000. Consoles have the games I want, now even if I could get build high end PC for free I still wouldn't ditch the consoles.

If we're talking about things that are irrelevant, exclusives are entirely irrelevant to this thread. They are talking about power, and a little about price

Exclusives make proper use of platform hardware my friend. Pc has none. Playstation has them all.

Provably false. and still irrelevant. Try again

Clearly jealous;.

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@uninspiredcup said:

@lostrib said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@lostrib said:

@Harisemo said:

@Sushiglutton said:

@Harisemo said:

Tell me when I can play Infamous SS, Halo 5, Forza 5 & Horizon, Crackdown 3, The Order 1886, Uncharted 4 and dozens of other quality exclusives on this £500 PC. When I can get those games on PC I wouldn't mind paying £1000 for it.

You need to buy two consoles to play those games.....

I'm saying price and power are irrelevant in these comparisons. If PC has all the games you want then go for it even if it's £500 or £1000. Consoles have the games I want, now even if I could get build high end PC for free I still wouldn't ditch the consoles.

If we're talking about things that are irrelevant, exclusives are entirely irrelevant to this thread. They are talking about power, and a little about price

Exclusives make proper use of platform hardware my friend. Pc has none. Playstation has them all.

Provably false. and still irrelevant. Try again

Clearly jealous;.

Nope, try again.

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@lostrib said:

@Harisemo said:

I'm saying price and power are irrelevant in these comparisons. If PC has all the games you want then go for it even if it's £500 or £1000. Consoles have the games I want, now even if I could get build high end PC for free I still wouldn't ditch the consoles.

If we're talking about things that are irrelevant, exclusives are entirely irrelevant to this thread. They are talking about power, and a little about price

As a gamer exclusives are relevant to me.

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#30  Edited By emgesp
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You can't play Sony exclusives on the PC. PC might have its advantages in terms of graphics, but in my opinion it offers inferior exclusives compared to consoles.

Also, the vast majority of PC multiplats aren't night and day better visually than the console versions. They are basically up ports with better image quality options, but far from the dramatic leap that some of those PC elitists make them out to be. Sure, when you take screen shots and point out the differences its noticeable, but when you're actually playing the game those little details don't really make a huge difference. I'm talking about when compared to the next-gen consoles not the PS3/360.

At the end of the day, all the horsepower in the world can't make up for inferior exclusives.

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#32  Edited By NFJSupreme
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no need to be so defensive console guys. This should actually make you feel very happy about your purchase if you bought a PS4. For what you pay you can't beet the performance of the PS4.

Also we just talking about performance.

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#33  Edited By emgesp
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@Motokid6 said:

Console exclusives blow big donkey bawls.

Yet, The Last of Us is one of the highest rated games of the past decade. Won more awards than any recent PC exclusive. Name me 2-3 quality PC exclusives released in the last 3 yrs that have a metacritic score of 90, or higher.

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.....and the average PC? Slightly below mid range. It all equals out.

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#35  Edited By lostrib
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@Harisemo said:

@lostrib said:

@Harisemo said:

I'm saying price and power are irrelevant in these comparisons. If PC has all the games you want then go for it even if it's £500 or £1000. Consoles have the games I want, now even if I could get build high end PC for free I still wouldn't ditch the consoles.

If we're talking about things that are irrelevant, exclusives are entirely irrelevant to this thread. They are talking about power, and a little about price

As a gamer exclusives are relevant to me.

okay, but not to this topic

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@AM-Gamer: Your ignorance is astounding

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@Harisemo said:

Tell me when I can play Infamous SS, Halo 5, Forza 5 & Horizon, Crackdown 3, The Order 1886, Uncharted 4 and dozens of other quality exclusives on this £500 PC. When I can get those games on PC I wouldn't mind paying £1000 for it.

Tell me I can play Star Citizen , Squadron 42 , Elite Dangerous , The Forest , Routine , Men of War Assault Squad 2 , Syberia 3 , Fortnite and dozens of other quality exclusives on consoles then I won't have any problem buying both consoles .

See I can do this too .

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@AM-Gamer said:

@uninspiredcup: I'm surprised you said that.

I was thinking the exact same thing... and for once, I actually agree. Maybe this will start a new trend.

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Well PC is best used as a mutiplat upgrader. Even tho when you put the money down to build a rig strong enough to actually get a noticeable difference over current gen consoles it's not really worth it.

When we throw exclusives in the mix however the PC power comparisons go out the window and consoles accomplish a lot more than a similar level PC could ever hope to accomplish *looks at Infamous Second Son* so while that PC build my beat PS4 in mutiplat comparisons you would need something a lot more powerful to compete with what PS4 can accomplish when it comes to a ground up title.

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#40 deactivated-5f19d4c9d7318
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Two seconds into that video and i've written off the thread.

£500 is the big hint, the PS4 is £350 and the X1 £430 (might be lower now didn't they drop the price?). You might consider the PC over the X1 given the performance to price ratio but you can't find anything comparative to the PS4 in price and performance.

You'll probably get less time out of that PC until you'll need to upgrade too. Consoles tend to hold their own better in the long run.

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#41  Edited By Harisemo
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@Cloud_imperium said:

@Harisemo said:

Tell me when I can play Infamous SS, Halo 5, Forza 5 & Horizon, Crackdown 3, The Order 1886, Uncharted 4 and dozens of other quality exclusives on this £500 PC. When I can get those games on PC I wouldn't mind paying £1000 for it.

Tell me I can play Star Citizen , Squadron 42 , Elite Dangerous , The Forest , Routine , Men of War Assault Squad 2 , Syberia 3 , Fortnite and dozens of other quality exclusives on consoles then I won't have any problem buying both consoles .

See I can do this too .

I'm happy PC has the games you want. I won't try shoving consoles down your throat or make useless comparisons.

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@emgesp said:

@Motokid6 said:

Console exclusives blow big donkey bawls.

Yet, The Last of Us is one of the highest rated games of the past decade. Won more awards than any recent PC exclusive. Name me 2-3 quality PC exclusives released in the last 3 yrs that have a metacritic score of 90, or higher.

lol, the Sony fanboys skew the polls/reviews with their exclusives, and most review sites are console bias to begin with.... So your point is void.

While the game was good it didnt deserve game of the year

To tell you the truth the story was very cliche until it's let-down ending.The game's gameplay was very overrated with AI issues, and the game was really is a step down from UC3 graphics wise, and its blurry backgrounds in some the darker areas was awful. also the replay value is nil.

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#43 Harisemo
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@WitIsWisdom said:

@AM-Gamer said:

@uninspiredcup: I'm surprised you said that.

I was thinking the exact same thing... and for once, I actually agree. Maybe this will start a new trend.

uninspiredcup is a bipolar troll, he keeps switching all the time lol

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@Motokid6 said:

Console exclusives blow big donkey bawls.

Yeah right. That is why PlayStation exclusives keep winning GOTY.

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@Cloud_imperium: SYBERIA 3!?!?...They are making a syberia 3?? Do you have a link,I love that game and you just made my day :)

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#46  Edited By horgen  Moderator
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@kinectthedots said:

Well PC is best used as a mutiplat upgrader. Even tho when you put the money down to build a rig strong enough to actually get a noticeable difference over current gen consoles it's not really worth it.

When we throw exclusives in the mix however the PC power comparisons go out the window and consoles accomplish a lot more than a similar level PC could ever hope to accomplish *looks at Infamous Second Son* so while that PC build my beat PS4 in mutiplat comparisons you would need something a lot more powerful to compete with what PS4 can accomplish when it comes to a ground up title.

Naturally if you look at what they can make out of the hardware they got, consoles beat PC. One the Xbone you only have to think about one configuration of hardware. After some titles, you know the ins and outs in that particular set-up. With a PC title, you have to build something that will work on a loads of different hardware, while keeping in mind that other(and various different) tasks that runs in the background will also require a bit of processing power, because of that you will set the minimum hardware required higher.

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#47  Edited By 04dcarraher
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@StrongBlackVine said:

@Motokid6 said:

Console exclusives blow big donkey bawls.

Yeah right. That is why PlayStation exclusives keep winning GOTY.

They keep winning because they are cinematic movies that Sony fanboys plaster the polls and forums thinking that their shit dont stink

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@Motokid6 said:

Console exclusives blow big donkey bawls.

Someone hasn't played TLOU.

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@uninspiredcup said:

Most people play on tablets and mobiles than "desktop". The very concept of "desktop" pc is antiquated. A tiny group of elitists desperately clinging to the past while the rest of the world moves on.

You obviously have no clue wtf you are talking about, delete your account.

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#50  Edited By naz99
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@ProjectPat187: I know as usual this is another thread filled with opinions and devoid of facts.

Also rehashing the same old crap because they lack better material to argue with.